551. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #162654 by irate_atheist on April 17, 2008 at 7:08 am

2110. Comment #162610 by epeeist -

I had a good friend who was an Engineering Officer on sub's. He once said 'The problem is, that if you have a problem, you're already sunk.'

Funnily enough he left the RN a year or two after making that observation.

552. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #162646 by irate_atheist on April 17, 2008 at 7:03 am

2134. Comment #162643 by epeeist -

You are assuming that there is a once-and-for-all greatest power.

553. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #162551 by irate_atheist on April 17, 2008 at 4:05 am

2079. Comment #162547 by Brian English -

In which case, you must be god. QED.

554. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #162548 by irate_atheist on April 17, 2008 at 4:03 am

2072. Comment #162537 by Quetzalcoatl -

You do not know the power of the dark side.

555. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #162536 by irate_atheist on April 17, 2008 at 3:47 am

2068. Comment #162533 by Quetzalcoatl -

My faith in humanity is shaken.

556. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #162531 by irate_atheist on April 17, 2008 at 3:44 am

2063. Comment #162528 by epeeist -

Well, the biggest thing I sail is my son's rubber duck in the bath. Even then, I manage to sink the damn thing sometimes.

557. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #162529 by irate_atheist on April 17, 2008 at 3:41 am

2053. Comment #162517 by NFT -

17(b) seems, to all intents and purposes, redundant, given 17(i) and (ii)

Am I misreading it - what do you think?

558. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #162516 by irate_atheist on April 17, 2008 at 3:29 am

2049. Comment #162513 by epeeist -

Great minds think alike.

559. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #162515 by irate_atheist on April 17, 2008 at 3:27 am

2048. Comment #162512 by Egomaniac -

See 2020. Comment #162480 by epeeist


Or my response, 2033. Comment #162493 by irate_atheist

What's your opinion? Acceptable compromise or dangerous precedent?

560. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #162511 by irate_atheist on April 17, 2008 at 3:24 am

I'm a little short on time, as it's late here...

561. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #162507 by irate_atheist on April 17, 2008 at 3:20 am

2042. Comment #162503 by phatbat -

'I, an atheist, look down on him because he's a theist.'

'I, a theist, look up at him because he's an atheist.'

'I'm David Robertson. I know my place.'

(Thanks to the Two Ronnies)

562. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #162502 by irate_atheist on April 17, 2008 at 3:15 am

2035. Comment #162495 by epeeist -

Could I also ask whether you were directed here from elsewhere, or did you come of your own accord?

563. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #162493 by irate_atheist on April 17, 2008 at 3:05 am

2020. Comment #162480 by epeeist -

Personally, I see no sense in PART E. EXEMPTIONS (Rule 38) Subsection (d) Para (i).

I cannot see why it is reasonable to permanently exempt a vessel from Section 3 (a) of Annex I purely based on keel-laying date.

It smacks to me of setting a dangerous precedent in law.

Perhaps you could enlighten me (pardon the pun) with your view on this matter.

564. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #162460 by irate_atheist on April 17, 2008 at 2:21 am

2004. Comment #162454 by Egomaniac -

My slave does my back-patting for me. Except on Tuesdays, when, as a token of my benifience, he has the afternoon off.

Edit: 2005. Comment #162459 by Quetzalcoatl -

If you've got something to say that's worth discussing, say it. Otherwise, don't bother.

565. Religious education as a part of literary culture

Comment #162455 by irate_atheist on April 17, 2008 at 2:19 am

107. Comment #162452 by clearmind -

wooter, you rubber twat, get a life.

566. Yoko Ono, Filmmakers Caught in 'Expelled' Flap

Comment #162445 by irate_atheist on April 17, 2008 at 1:41 am

32. Comment #162442 by Logicel -

The movie is set to open Friday on 1,000 screens,...

567. School bars same-sex partners at formals

Comment #162047 by irate_atheist on April 16, 2008 at 3:58 am

Dear 'Dr' Scandrett -

May I respectfully point out that, as a fucktard and shit-bag of a homophobe, you are in good company with Hitler and the Nazi regime.

Not so good, your god, is he?

Yours faithlessly

- Irate

568. Religious education as a part of literary culture

Comment #162045 by irate_atheist on April 16, 2008 at 3:54 am

94. Comment #161950 by Steve Zara -

The 'tard appears to know nothing about file formats. I think you can safely ignore him/her/it....

569. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #162038 by irate_atheist on April 16, 2008 at 3:11 am

Billy - Re: my 1809. Comment #161995 -

Fancy posting on FCOS?

570. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #162033 by irate_atheist on April 16, 2008 at 2:56 am

1828. Comment #162028 by Goldy -

Oh, I'm sure we do agree. Sometimes it's just interesting to have a discussion on these ethical topics :) No 'tarding here. And 11am - time for Tea?

571. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #162030 by irate_atheist on April 16, 2008 at 2:46 am

1828. Comment #162028 by Goldy -

But from the perspective of the law, society and - at the very least - short term health outlook for the policeman, it is not to be condemned.

572. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #162026 by irate_atheist on April 16, 2008 at 2:36 am

1826. Comment #162024 by Goldy -

And if the lie is a great big whopper - is that right?

573. Victims: Pope Benedict Protects Accused Pedophile Bishops

Comment #162025 by irate_atheist on April 16, 2008 at 2:35 am

An new article about this in Slate, by Christopher Hitchens:

http://www.slate.com/id/2188971/

574. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #162021 by irate_atheist on April 16, 2008 at 2:23 am

1821. Comment #162015 by Goldy -

Lying is not always unethical. We all lie, every day.

575. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #162012 by irate_atheist on April 16, 2008 at 2:07 am

1818. Comment #162009 by Quetzalcoatl -

Although in his FCOS post RM did offer to e-mail detailed thoughts on his conversion to anyone who was interested. Perhaps one of us could sign up for that?

576. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #162007 by irate_atheist on April 16, 2008 at 2:00 am

1814. Comment #162002 by Philip1978 -

G'day. Wife and child both doing well. No Tea, thanks, but apart from that super smashing lovely great.

As for RM's post; very interesting. Perhaps someone should post it on the FCOS forum? Any takers?

577. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #161995 by irate_atheist on April 16, 2008 at 1:46 am

1801. Comment #161984 by Quetzalcoatl -

How funny Richard Morgan's conversion is when when one reads this post - and I stroingly recommend that you all do so:

http://www.richarddawkins.net/articleComments,623,Do-stop-behaving-as-if-you-are-God-Professor-Dawkins,Alister-McGrath-The-Mail,page3#21198

Perhaps we should copy this post somewhere before it gets 'miraculously' deleted.

BTW: Good morning everybody.

578. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #161425 by irate_atheist on April 15, 2008 at 9:30 am

1524. Comment #161423 by Quetzalcoatl -

And I bet he's fundamentally opposed to Tea. PBUY.

579. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #161421 by irate_atheist on April 15, 2008 at 9:28 am

1521. Comment #161419 by al-rawandi -

I disagree. He's just applying for the award of 'fucktard of the day', and not doing a bad job of it, either.

580. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #161416 by irate_atheist on April 15, 2008 at 9:21 am

1516. Comment #161411 by strength -

If you are so convinced by and of Jesus, why are you a Jew?

581. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #161410 by irate_atheist on April 15, 2008 at 9:13 am

1513. Comment #161408 by epeeist -

Where's irate when you need him...

582. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #161407 by irate_atheist on April 15, 2008 at 9:10 am

1511. Comment #161406 by navyjake95 -

Like it or not, you were created by God, and he has a plan for your life.

He changed my heart - and if you're not careful, he'll change yours too!!!!

583. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #161398 by irate_atheist on April 15, 2008 at 8:48 am

1505. Comment #161396 by Quetzalcoatl -

I don't agree. That's why I drink Bovril. PBUY.

584. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #161384 by irate_atheist on April 15, 2008 at 8:25 am

1492. Comment #161381 by Kardashovel -

Which one. There's a few thousand to choose from.

585. For sale: 13-year-old virgin

Comment #161382 by irate_atheist on April 15, 2008 at 8:24 am

183. Comment #161348 by wendelin -

Complete fucking bollocks.

To quote al-rawandi - 'ass clown'.

586. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #161377 by irate_atheist on April 15, 2008 at 8:21 am

Tyler - Where's Dr B when you need her?

587. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #161368 by irate_atheist on April 15, 2008 at 8:11 am

1475. Comment #161346 by Kardashovel -

WTF? I was dealing with someone who had been brainwashed from birth. I had to decided to deal with it. I'm angry with arse-brains to push - and condone - religion. I'm not interested in sympathy - I make my own decisions and stick with them. You may or may not be a 'tard, only time will tell.

I just wonder what kind of emotional stress you may have been under when you encountered 'the voice of the Mysterons'.

588. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #161341 by irate_atheist on April 15, 2008 at 7:26 am

1467. Comment #161333 by Steve Zara -

Indeed. The other half was not only brought up to listen for a 'voice', but that - in fact - god and the devil planted thoughts in her head.


1468. Comment #161334 by Kardashovel -

My compassion has just run out. As far as I'm concerned, you're just another self-deluded wilfully ignorant fucktard. A danger to yourself and others.

589. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #161330 by irate_atheist on April 15, 2008 at 7:13 am

1459. Comment #161321 by Kardashovel -

I am serious. This is a degree of compassion you don't normally see me display on this site - but it is genuine.

My wife (fiance as she was) also thought she heard god talking to her. So much so, taht after years of effectice indoctrination and lies from her family(!) she actually believed that a god wanted her to go to India to live with and help the poor and - quite possibly - die in a slum as a result of this. Actually believed it. She was young, impressionable, ill (physically) and in a bad way at times.

It is not real. If you really believe that this 'voice' in your head is a god, and you are compelled to obey it's ideas and instructions, you are in dangerous territory.

Good - you're successful with a happy family etc. - I'm pleased for you, you seem a decent enough chap. Please, please, please consider seriously what you are suggesting when you say '...the answers about those people and situations were definitely not part of my psyche. Nor were the issues that He wanted to discuss.' You have absolutely no reason to regard that this is a particular celestial dictator talking to you.

I doubt you will take my advice, but I have at least offered it.

590. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #161319 by irate_atheist on April 15, 2008 at 6:52 am

1454. Comment #161313 by Kardashovel -

I was talking about the person that helps you deal with the voice(s) in your head. Be careful.

Edit: 1457. Comment #161317 by Kardashovel -

Quetzalcoatl, the answers about those people and situations were definitely not part of my psyche.

591. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #161311 by irate_atheist on April 15, 2008 at 6:37 am

Kardashovel - What does your psychiatrist think of your ideas?

592. Hitchens vs. Hitchens

Comment #161310 by irate_atheist on April 15, 2008 at 6:35 am

al -

Trusssst in me,
Jusssst in me....

593. Hitchens vs. Hitchens

Comment #161302 by irate_atheist on April 15, 2008 at 6:24 am

al - What happened to assmarks - did he give up and go away?

594. For sale: 13-year-old virgin

Comment #161298 by irate_atheist on April 15, 2008 at 6:21 am

177. Comment #161294 by AmericanGodless -

The fact that E=mc^2 does not depend upon your 'cultural context'.

Pv=nRT does not depend on your location.

An assertion of value can be defended as highly probable to be consistent within the context of a collection of values held by a given moral community.

595. Richard Dawkins and Bill Maher

Comment #161295 by irate_atheist on April 15, 2008 at 6:08 am

279. Comment #161291 by Dr Benway -

Puberty does something to the brain that robs it of the delightful intensity of pretend play.

596. For sale: 13-year-old virgin

Comment #161293 by irate_atheist on April 15, 2008 at 6:04 am

175. Comment #161275 by Bonzai -

Swift application of Occam's razor reveals that, quite simply, Henri is a prick. Anything else just adds superfluously to the length of his member.

597. Religious education as a part of literary culture

Comment #161258 by irate_atheist on April 15, 2008 at 4:34 am

Philip -

I prefer to be cruel to be cruel.

Mwahaha!!!

598. Religious education as a part of literary culture

Comment #161252 by irate_atheist on April 15, 2008 at 4:27 am

63. Comment #161244 by Philip1978 -


That's cruel. The man can't even spell Tea.

599. Richard Dawkins and Lawrence Krauss

Comment #161247 by irate_atheist on April 15, 2008 at 4:18 am

32. Comment #161242 by epeeist -

Thanks :)

Steve -

It's a bit hard to know how you can know about him then.

600. Religious education as a part of literary culture

Comment #161240 by irate_atheist on April 15, 2008 at 4:05 am

56. Comment #161227 by clearmind -

Er...fucktard?