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601. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #192766 by Goldy on June 14, 2008 at 12:44 am

There are plenty first hand accounts of Jesus and his miracles. Show me first hand accounts of any disputing of Jesus and his miracles.
Give me one (1) verifiable saying of Jesus. Edit - and tell me why James (Jesus' brother) was none too fond of Paul (as I have been led to believe).

602. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #192760 by Goldy on June 14, 2008 at 12:38 am

Why then don't you give me your thoughts on the origins of life. Without knowledge of the origin of life, how can one even consider understanding the process in which you claim life evolved?

Sorry, but what does this have to do with the subject we are discussing?

603. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #192757 by Goldy on June 14, 2008 at 12:37 am

RtG -you answer Brian and me separately. As it is, I agree with Brian. But even in your sense, I have not sinned. How does that strike you? Fancy becoming an atheist?
No god - just you own conscience...

604. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #192751 by Goldy on June 14, 2008 at 12:33 am

So you can choose to do anything and it would never be a sin?

I am saying I have not - you are saying I cannot have.
Do not confuse two different people.

605. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #192746 by Goldy on June 14, 2008 at 12:30 am

Can you prove the universe wasn't created? How then did it come about? I thought Evolution supporters shyed away from the creation/origins of life issue since they have no answers.

Can you prove (without recousrse to mythology) the opposite? We do not shy of answers - we call them throies and we open our ideas to public scrutiny. Theists like you say what you read is the only way and there is no other way.
Who then is the more humble?

606. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #192744 by Goldy on June 14, 2008 at 12:26 am

Yes, I can't pick and choose what to believe from the Bible. So, Jesus is the light and the way. Without accepting him you are damned to hell for eternity. That's not my opinion. That's the word of God. I pray that all people will come to know Jesus and be saved to eternal life through his grace.

Give me a break! Each and every quote you gave at your intorduction was a pick a choose! It is not the word of God - if it was you'd also be picking parts out of the Quran and I can see you don't have even the slightset inking what is in that book.
Worship of Jesus obviously doesn't "save" people - you admit to lying and stealing and you belive. I don't and I cannot conceive of doing the same. Jesus is obviously a salve to a guilty conscience - one I do not need.

607. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #192739 by Goldy on June 14, 2008 at 12:21 am

Brian

How could anybody who doesn't believe in God believe in sin?
Having an athiest father who taught me that everythig I do is a consequence of me and that there is no forgiveness - how can an atheist sin?

608. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #192737 by Goldy on June 14, 2008 at 12:19 am

If you truly and sincerely believe that you are so righteous to have never sinned, then I will pray for you even more. This is a sad state of mind.
If you cannot imagine some one who has not "sinned", look to yourself first and try and sort your own life out. You sound to me a most dodgy character. Do not tar me with your brush. And do not pray for me - even if I believed, you do not sound like the sort I would expect God to listen to.

609. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #192732 by Goldy on June 14, 2008 at 12:15 am

Why would I pray to God for your damnation?
Your prayer indicates I am in need of it - ergo, I am damned. You assume already I am damned. Your prayer is an assumption I have transgressed.
You, by the sounds of it, need to pray for yourself. A thief and a liar. That's bad, mate. Sucks to be you!

610. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #192731 by Goldy on June 14, 2008 at 12:13 am

You claim to have no sin? So you have never lied or stolen? You don't need to answer. It's ridiculous.

No. Methinks if you can't claim that for yourself, don't force your belief on others.

611. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #192728 by Goldy on June 14, 2008 at 12:07 am

How can I get God to damn you to eternal torture?
If there is no way you can influence your god, then prayer will not help. So stop praying.

612. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #192727 by Goldy on June 14, 2008 at 12:05 am

Since all humans are sinful

I am a human and I have no sin.
It usually leads to this secular humanistic materialistic society which has engulfed our nation.
Your nation is engulfed in religious fervour. See how religion envelopes every aspect of your life. Religion is important in the way you elect presidents and it encroaches in the way you teach science. Don't give me the secular crap.
Most idols are either celebrities or sports athletes

And Jesus was what then? I assume he was but a man, like the celebrity and sport athlete - none of whom I look up to.

613. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #192724 by Goldy on June 14, 2008 at 12:00 am

I would have no problem with anyone praying for me. How is praying for someone impossing on them?

It is rape. You would have no problem because you are already infected. I do not want your prayers. As a religious person, you should understand that.
BTW, only 1 "s" in imposing.
I state again, I want no prayers for me. If you like sex, you probably would like someone forcing themselves on you. If you are particular about sex, that forcing would be rape.

614. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #192721 by Goldy on June 13, 2008 at 11:56 pm

As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquillity, of Mussulmen; and, as the said States never entered into any war, or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties, that no pretext arising from religious opinions, shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.[25]

The Treaty of Tripoli.
There is no religion in the USA - just the state. The State guarantees the freedom of religion, any religion, as long as it does not interfere with the rulings of the state.
That, to me, is the mosy beautiful thing I can think of - that is why I am an Americanophile (horrible word, but conveys my feelings). You, blokey that got touched in the head, anger me for the way you wish to kill this.
Received the gift, eh? Was it a gift you were able to handle?

615. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #192717 by Goldy on June 13, 2008 at 11:50 pm

Do you believe our society is progressively getting more and more degregated?
Answer my question first

616. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #192716 by Goldy on June 13, 2008 at 11:49 pm

Your understanding of the separation of church and state is mistaken. It was to keep the state out of the church, not the church out of the state.

To have an Englishman telling you you are wrong is surely the height of embarrassment!

617. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #192712 by Goldy on June 13, 2008 at 11:46 pm

Why would praying for you be offensive?

Because I don't ask for it, I never asked for it and I don't want someone do do it for me. If America (you must be American) became Muslim how would you feel? You don't ask for Islam, but if it is imposed on you, even for "your own good", how would you feel.
I do not know you, I will never meet you, I don't think the same as you. I would like you to respect me for who I am and not impose your views on me. As far as you are concerned, I am damned to an eternity of hellfire and damnation - what are your prayers, however unwanted, going to help me.
Give money to a good cause if you want to help me.

618. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #192709 by Goldy on June 13, 2008 at 11:40 pm

These worldly idols are a main cause in the degredation of our society.
And what degredations would these be? Tell us - and make sure you are positive they are not the result of religious teachings.

619. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #192705 by Goldy on June 13, 2008 at 11:38 pm

So our founding fathers were all silly?

Why did your founding fathers enshrine the separation of church and state then? You agree with them? Hold their thoughts dear? So you keep your thoughts private then and stop putting them into the way you vote for a person.

620. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #192703 by Goldy on June 13, 2008 at 11:34 pm

I believe for any society to sustain, it must adhere to an accepted set of standards. The Christian standard is it.

That is because you have a Christocentric view. Your society has no place in a Muslim nation, a Hindu nation or a secular nation.

To Diacanu, you said
You are very offensive. I will not respond to you. But I will still be praying for your salvation.

The offence I can understand. But how offensive is it to pray for him without his permission? Does he want your prayers? You are imposing on his life - he only used bad language to you. Who then is the more offensive?

621. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #192701 by Goldy on June 13, 2008 at 11:29 pm

First of all, there is no need for this language. Second, I told you no such thing. Your lack of confidence in your stand put you on the defense right away.

English? Or the swearwords? They are all from God - apparently.
Secondly, you did - your language did.
My confidence in you is severely shaken - you are on, after all, that would see my civilisation terminated.

622. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #192698 by Goldy on June 13, 2008 at 11:25 pm

What do you believe should be the standards we have as a society?

Have you come across the Iranian laws? Just saying because
a) it was on the BBC http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/documentaries/2008/06/080605_mon_doc_wk24_leila.shtml
b) you want a theocracy

623. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #192696 by Goldy on June 13, 2008 at 11:21 pm

Why are your responses so predictable?

Probably because yor entry is the same. You come in, spout a few extracts from some book, tell us we're fucked ad then say you'll pray for us.
What did you expect?

624. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #192651 by Goldy on June 13, 2008 at 8:06 pm

Virus are not cells, just bits of protein.
Pedantically speaking, more like DNA or RNA wrapped up in a protein coat...like a chocolate truffle :-)

625. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #192636 by Goldy on June 13, 2008 at 6:38 pm

From RtG

Please let me give you some advice.

A bunch of Paul's spin doctoring masquerading as Jesus' words then
Stop engaging them

Sound advice! Mind you, a bloody long winded way of saying "Fuck off!", methinks.
I lift you up and will continue to pray for Jesus, to reveal himself to you

Hope you are strong. By the way, Jesus is dead - nailed to a tree, by all accounts. I have nothing to ask forgiveness for and need no salvation. Thanks for the offer, but not wanted.
I, on the other hand, shall continue to provide what knowledge and skills I have to find cures for diseases which prayer just won't cure. You are most welcome to use the fruits of my labour - just say thanks when you get better - not to your god but to people like me and to people like the doctors that cure you.
As this shows...
If one is so confident and positive of their knowledge, they would not feel so threatened.
..you have no idea at all about people. The word you were looking for was frustrated. And incredulous.
Now, fuck off unless you have something decent to say. We also know more about your mythology than you'll ever, ever know :-) Careful when quoting it...


What is it about God that makes him want the terminally stupid??

626. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #192600 by Goldy on June 13, 2008 at 2:15 pm

I think you misunderstood. I don't think that replication errors produces animals of any sort. That is your theory. You still don't seem to be in touch with the facts about mutations.
Heheheheheheheh! The idiot tells me I don't understand! Priceless!
It isn't my theory, it is the theory of evolution. Verily you are amazing!
I assume you are referring to "junk DNA". If that is the case, I'm afraid you are out of date.
No. I assume you just have no research to fall on.
Of course they do. Unbroken bends in sedimentary rock show that the deformation happened quickly while the sediments were still soft.
Snigger, chortle....
So these are how sedimentary layers are formed? Which one of the things you list here preserves the fossils, like the T rex we've been discussing? Do you suppose it fell down and a continent ran over it?

Waaaahahahahahahaha! Priceless, truly priceless! Oh, what, you know what really happened? What's that? Oh, a global flood, was it?? Which...who? God?? God sent it?? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!
Man, how deep can one plumb the depths of stupidity?
Well, it seems to me that if very bright, educated and funded mortal men can't make life, or even supposed precursors of life as we know it, chances are like really slim that it formed on an accidental basis.
Conjecture on your part, eh? You have nothing to show life as we know it has not been made - as your research has been shown to be incredibly lacking, you can't say that for sure, can you. And given your propensity to ignore completely anything that you don't like, I can also safely say if you have read it, you'll not admit it.
That's what I meant when I noted they didn't reference mutations in the quote.

Takes a complete idiot to miss it!
Oh dear, so much ignorance so fiercely guarded with such pride! How do you get through each day??

627. Unlike Others, U.S. Defends Freedom to Offend in Speech

Comment #192359 by Goldy on June 12, 2008 at 9:17 pm

I think you are failing to recognize that outlawing guns in America will only leave guns in the hands of those who shouldn't have them in the first place

I belive this is what happened in the UK after Dunblane.
Odd, eh, how criminals never seem to follow the laws in great detail...

628. Report: Troubling texts at Va. Islamic school

Comment #192346 by Goldy on June 12, 2008 at 8:03 pm

Interesting facts Goldy...

An absolute wealth of information out there in the ol' interweb - shame so many refuse to use it, preferring some dusty old mythological compendium..
As an aside, I was always told the avo was Nature's butter. Surely that puts it in the dairy category... ;-)

629. Report: Troubling texts at Va. Islamic school

Comment #192339 by Goldy on June 12, 2008 at 7:46 pm

Buddhists can be just as violent as anyone

Ask any southern Thai muslim minority. Though a lot of the media focus is on the separatists who kill Buddhists there.
I also remember there being a god of war in Buddhism. Edit - and the military junta in Burma is Buddhist...nominally...
And, if Xinhua is to be believed, there were reports of Tibetan Buddhist suicide squads...

630. Report: Troubling texts at Va. Islamic school

Comment #192338 by Goldy on June 12, 2008 at 7:42 pm

But then the whole point is that most Christians are not fundies

If you ask me, most Christians aren't even Christian....at least the ones I know :-)

631. Report: Troubling texts at Va. Islamic school

Comment #192334 by Goldy on June 12, 2008 at 7:40 pm

But tomatoes and avacados are also considered a fruit even though it's not something that you would generally associate to the fruit group?
Well, they are a fruiting body...and a carrot is also called a fruit by some (Wikipedia lists it under "simple fruit") though trust me I can't ever see it as one myself!
All to do with definition, which is a man-made construct. Buddhism can be thought of as a school of philosophical thought or as a religion. I dare say all the Buddhists I know see it as their religion rather than them seeing themselves as deep thinkers.
I think a better analogy would be the po-tay-to/po-tah-to thing - both slightly different takes on the same thing :-)
Buddhism, as I far as I can see, is a religion both devoid of and full of gods. All depends how you want to follow it, I guess...

632. Report: Troubling texts at Va. Islamic school

Comment #192327 by Goldy on June 12, 2008 at 7:21 pm

Goldy...lol true but buddhism is hardly considered a "religion".
Ceremony, silly costumes, rules and regulations, mysticism, magic - yep, all there. It's a religion.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhist
Friday night at the pub, on the other hand, could be construed as less of a religion as a cultural construct. But don't tell that to the adherents ;-)

633. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #192326 by Goldy on June 12, 2008 at 7:10 pm

More for txtpiper

Theory gives stronger roots to the tree of life

Phylogenetic trees are similar to family trees: The top of the tree represents earlier times; a point from which two lines diverge represents a common ancestor for two species; and for species diverging from a common ancestor, it makes no difference which is on the left and which is on the right. For example, the diagram at top left shows the pig developing at an earlier time than the monkey or the mouse, with the latter two sharing a more recent common ancestor. The diagram to its right shows that the mouse predates the monkey and the human, with the monkey and human having a common ancestor. The only diagram for all four species that can represent this is that shown at middle left. Using similar reasoning, the middle right and bottom diagrams can each be constructed from the preceding pair.
Biologists now have powerful newtools for reconstructing the tree of life, thanks to a novel mathematical theory for combining evolutionary relationships.

The theory has been developed by Marsden researchers Associate Professor Mike Steel and Dr Charles Semple at the University of Canterbury's Biomathematics Research Centre, together with mathematicians in Germany and Canada.

Their results describe how trees that show the evolution of groups of species can be combined into an evolutionary "supertree" for all the species under study. Until now only ad-hoc methods have been available for this problem.

The figure illustrates some of the main ideas. Each of the four trees at the top shows how groups of three present-day species are believed to have evolved from ancestral species. Each of these four trees is constructed by statistically analysing DNA sequences in each of the species and, from the differences, working out how long ago the species diverged.

Dr Semple said the big question was whether these trees could together form a supertree. And if so, did they fit together in just one way?

"In this example, the first two 3-species trees fit together in only one way ­ they 'force' the 4-species tree in the middle left of the figure. That is, each of the first two trees 'sits inside' this larger tree, yet none of the other possible trees of these four species does this.

"Similarly the last two trees on the top layer force the 4-species tree in the middle-right. As for the two forced trees in the middle layer, these in turn force the 6-species supertree at the bottom. So this is the only tree (among 945 possibilities) that accommodates all the four trees at the top of the figure.

"If you believe those four 3-species trees are true, and the evolution of species is described by a tree, then you are forced to accept the 6-species tree," he said.

While this is just an example, the group has developed techniques for combining more complicated trees into supertrees.

"This has led to new techniques and results in a series of papers in mathematics, computer science and biology journals," Associate Professor Steel said.

"So while some biologists can build up an evolutionary tree for their particular favourite group, others can start to piece together these trees for different groups ofspecies, to gain a larger and more accurate picture of the way species evolved."



For further information, contact Associate Professor Mike Steel, Biomathematics Research Centre, University of Canterbury Tel: (03) 364 2987 ext 7688 Fax: (03) 364 2587 Email: m.steel@math.canterbury.ac.nz http://web.math.canterbury.ac.nz/~mathmas/ Address: Private Bag 4800, Christchurch

In http://www.rsnz.org/funding/marsden_fund/news15/index.php
Research is conituing. It appears to be getting more powerful than prayer. Of course, you'll not believe a single part of it - you know why I think that is so ;-)

634. Richard Dawkins lecture at ASU's Tempe Campus

Comment #192310 by Goldy on June 12, 2008 at 6:29 pm

After the posts were removed, there are a series of Goldy saying: "Have a banana" "Have a banana", now that is funny

Damn! Now people will think I'm strange!!! Again, my attempts at building a serious persona are thwarted ;-)

635. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #192308 by Goldy on June 12, 2008 at 6:20 pm

Something for txty
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/2000yearold-seed-grows-into-tree-of-life-for-scientists-846247.html
2000 year old seeds - and still viable.
Interesting line here...

...a preliminary genetic analysis has revealed it shares about half its DNA with three modern varieties of the date palm from Morocco, Egypt and Iraq.

Only half the DNA? But it is still a date palm...

636. Unlike Others, U.S. Defends Freedom to Offend in Speech

Comment #192305 by Goldy on June 12, 2008 at 6:12 pm

Another British/US take...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/2119950/RAF-pilot-refuses-US-order-to-trim-moustache.html
:-) Enjoy!

637. Report: Troubling texts at Va. Islamic school

Comment #192301 by Goldy on June 12, 2008 at 6:06 pm

I was going to mention the Dalai Lama as not particularly dangerous, but the Chinese Communist Party would not agree with me...

638. Discussion between Richard Dawkins and Paula Kirby

Comment #192286 by Goldy on June 12, 2008 at 4:44 pm

Give me a call editor@christianstogether.net
How does one call on an email address?
Given the religiously minded folk I have come across here, debate must mean a different thing to you than it does to me.
I can't believe that those who so actively participate in the this on-line message board are all unwilling/unable to defend your viewpoint in live discussion

Nah - you can't shout down words ;-) And your asinine comments will be forever open to scrutiny and peer review. Hitler's speeches sounded mightly fine, but when written lost quite a bit of their lustre. And we athiests are polite sorts - not hysterical screamers like the religious.
Debate with us here.
Oh, and if you do want someone to call, how about providing a number?

639. Discussion between Richard Dawkins and Paula Kirby

Comment #192283 by Goldy on June 12, 2008 at 4:37 pm

WeeF

As a Christian I teach that real faith is based upon truth and evidence

But you miss out the interpretation issues, eh? So more a case of do as I say, not what you see...

640. Unlike Others, U.S. Defends Freedom to Offend in Speech

Comment #192268 by Goldy on June 12, 2008 at 3:56 pm

Believe me, the seemingly constant insinuations on this board of American backwardness drive me insane. I think at least 50% of my posts here are in defense of America and trying to explain that we really aren't run by evangelical psychos. That's not what I thought I'd be doing when I first joined this site.

Jealousy, old boy, jealousy! ;-)
Personally, most of the English I know actually live anywhere but England (like me :-D). Of the ones that still lag in Blighty, one has a mother from Arkansas and the other was almost a New Zealander (parents succumbed to parental pressure not to emigrate).
All countries in the west have a great debt to each other. The US is, I believe, greatly derived from immigrants of European extraction. Europe has accepted greatly from US technology and know how and has learnt and used the US for it's own furtherment.
Like it or not - we're family ;-) And they do say families bicker...

641. Intelligent people 'less likely to believe in God'

Comment #192189 by Goldy on June 12, 2008 at 2:30 pm

Also depends on the definition of intelligence. I am sure many of the cretinists are very smart - look how they can manipulate data and evidence to show the opposite to what we see as bleeding obvious.
Militant ignorance is not less clever - it is just intelligence going down a dead end ;-)

642. Report: Troubling texts at Va. Islamic school

Comment #192185 by Goldy on June 12, 2008 at 2:27 pm

History_Junky
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/arts/main.jhtml?xml=/arts/2007/08/30/borob126.xml
Another view...
;-)

643. Intelligent people 'less likely to believe in God'

Comment #192177 by Goldy on June 12, 2008 at 2:18 pm

Loved this

"Really clever people ?quot; .. Shakespeare .. ?quot; are big enough to believe in God"

Shakespeare's a bad example; he was Elizabethan and, if I recall correctly my school history lessons, the Christians who ran Elizabethan England had declared atheism a capital offence. If Shakespeare had declared himself an atheist, the intelligent, peace-loving Christians (those who believe "thou shall not kill") would have killed him.
Posted by Mike on June 12, 2008 4:09 PM

Talking of the Bard, UoA has this (that's the Uni of Auckland)
Watch, listen to or download this fascinating series of conversations between well-known broadcaster Kerre Woodham and six top academics from the Faculty of Arts. The eclectic range of topics includes New Zealand politics, the sociology of genocide, and whether Shakespeare believed in God

Check it out - http://www.auckland.ac.nz/

644. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #192171 by Goldy on June 12, 2008 at 2:08 pm

Hmm. Suddenly I feel very very tired. I think Dostoievsky once wrote, when referring to his time in a Siberian labour camp where he spent four years breaking up stones and moving them from one random place to another equally random place, 'If you ever want to break a man's soul, give him an utterly pointless task to do, over and over again.'

I now know what he meant.

I dunno, Keith. I'm actually quite enjoying this. As I work in a university, I don't get to play with idiots too often. I'm just seeing how far the depths of militant ignorance can go :-)

645. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #191858 by Goldy on June 12, 2008 at 2:26 am

Billy, he'll fail. Maybe he's read this and been disheartened...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/2111174/Intelligent-people-'less-likely-to-believe-in-God'.html
Probably doubly annoyed when he read this in the sidebar!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/italy/2111096/Clever-people-could-live-15-years-longer.html

646. Holiday in Hellmouth

Comment #191857 by Goldy on June 12, 2008 at 2:18 am

Just as I was starting to get irritated by the religous I come across here, I see this
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/2111174/Intelligent-people-'less-likely-to-believe-in-God'.html
Poor WeeF - must be hard to think he is a minnow in this sea of intellectual titans :-)

647. Discussion between Richard Dawkins and Paula Kirby

Comment #191856 by Goldy on June 12, 2008 at 2:16 am

Fanusi, I take it you're not overly familiar with the Telegraph's pages then....

648. Holiday in Hellmouth

Comment #191855 by Goldy on June 12, 2008 at 2:10 am

You think that all answered prayer is a miracle? Who teaches that? The funds did appear by some naturalistic agency. That is normally how God works. When I buy my wife some flowers and they are delivered by the flowershop - my wife does not turn round and say that because they were handed over by a van driver I had nothing to do with it. Think about it.
OK. A Sinophobe was cut up in traffic by an Asian looking driver. He utters a prayer suring all Chinese adn lo and behold, an earthquake occurs, killing thousands. This then is the fault of the Sinophobe? And by God's blessing?
God doesn't normally work at all. Have you prayed for an amputees limb to grow back? After all, this god you mention gives you 80-odd quid at your request - simple monetary gain with no meaning at all outside your own life. Nothing earth moving or life changing. Hell, if your god can lend you a few quid, why not a limb? Why not make a real difference, a real miracle? £80-odd made only you happy and gave you a story but nothing more has come of it. A conjuring trick, no more. Tell me something meaningful - and don't give me crap about how I would not appreciate it. If Jesus had that mentality, he'd have shut his trap adn whittled wood like his "dad". Mohammed would have stuck to trading with the odd bout of camel theft. Your god saw fit to give you £80-some - surely it was not purely for the anecdotes.

649. Holiday in Hellmouth

Comment #191849 by Goldy on June 12, 2008 at 1:52 am

Mordacious1, you will find that those of a religious bent tend to
A) call themselves something they generally are not. Clearthinker is a case to point.
B) enjoy the trappings of open fora but not allow it when they are in control. See how the Church, once it's evil claws were entrenched into society, actively supressed all other thought. Islamic countries are a good case to point even today.
I have to say the humourless WeeF did come up with one truth

Mordacious - you got me.....(weeps buckets)....I confess....I had and have no friends and just made up the God of the Bible out of my head.....please help me....thank God (if he exists) for your sheer brilliance and perceptiveness...

The god he professes to worship and follow does not exist outside that space between his ears. Indeed, it "is not the God I worship", according to the vast majority of Protestants (to name but one sect of his cult).
He should take comfort from this - at least his morality is his own (like ours) - just he needs the security blanket we have grown out of.

650. Discussion between Richard Dawkins and Paula Kirby

Comment #191845 by Goldy on June 12, 2008 at 1:42 am

Having only ever had one letter published (in the Torygraph), don't be surprised if a mightily fine example of penmanship is reduced to a soundbite ;-)

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