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Comment #102872 by Radesq on December 23, 2007 at 7:48 pm
I don't think the inns being full has ever been a problem for Christians.
602. Debate between Michael Shermer and Dinesh D'Souza
Comment #102868 by Radesq on December 23, 2007 at 7:44 pm
No problem AJ. When we disagree let's just not be disagreeable -- agreed? After all it's not like we're Jets fans right?
603. Debate between Michael Shermer and Dinesh D'Souza
Comment #102863 by Radesq on December 23, 2007 at 7:32 pm
Dear dsouzaphile: Why hasn't God performed any of those readily apparent miracles these days when we have vastly more ability to analyze them? Is he sleeping or has he just become disinterested or what? You may refer to me as Dr. "The Batboy" if you wish or Radesq is fine too.
Comment #102855 by Radesq on December 23, 2007 at 6:59 pm
In the words of Jean Girard from the classic Talladega Nights "What is this shake 'n bake? It's nonsense!"
605. Survey finds most Americans believe Jesus born of virgin
Comment #102853 by Radesq on December 23, 2007 at 6:53 pm
Looking at these poll results makes me wonder -- if 64 % of Americans believe in the story of Noah, where God killed all but two of all the animals on Earth -- why would they send Michael Vick to jail for killing a number (I don't know less than 100) dogs? Don't mistake me for condoning cruelty to animals. I just don't understand how its Godly on a massive scale but criminal on a small scale.
606. The Four Horsemen: on Christmas
Comment #102840 by Radesq on December 23, 2007 at 6:15 pm
I've been trolled long enough Willie -- the Batboy will say no more about your aforementioned opinions except to say this:
Sun. Dec. 09, 2007 Patriots 34 Steelers 13
607. The Four Horsemen: on Christmas
Comment #102832 by Radesq on December 23, 2007 at 5:56 pm
Look Willie, maybe having a mixed race marriage/baby is a big no no to you -- it isn't for everybody -- so don't assume it is. Maybe abortion isn't important to you because you aren't a woman who wishes to have one. Maybe equating someone's else's idea of physical affection to sawing off someone's head is considered "debating" amongst Steeler fans (I doubt even they uniformly share your views)but it doesn't fly with me.
608. The Four Horsemen: on Christmas
Comment #102819 by Radesq on December 23, 2007 at 5:34 pm
AtheistJon are you really Willie Parker and just pissed about not being able to play in the playoffs? It isn't actually the fact that you find men kissing off-putting (you choose to say disgusting)that is irritating to me at least.
It was statements like "Choosing your mate is nominally a racist act" and "I consider abortion such a minor issue...". This shows you have very little regard for any perspective or circumstance other than your own.
609. The Four Horsemen: on Christmas
Comment #102809 by Radesq on December 23, 2007 at 5:20 pm
Hooray the New England Patriots are 15-0 ! *he said eyes darting nervously side to side hoping to change the subject*
610. The Four Horsemen: on Christmas
Comment #102805 by Radesq on December 23, 2007 at 5:13 pm
I am currently having a similar reaction to this discussion.
611. 2 fleas for the Christmas week
Comment #102800 by Radesq on December 23, 2007 at 4:59 pm
RE:
Step 1: Belief in God is widespread and ancient, many books have been written about it.
612. 'Christian God is not to blame'
Comment #102719 by Radesq on December 23, 2007 at 1:11 pm
Just as a parting shot this quote from the academy award winning film Talledega Nights -- Ricky Bobby: Dear Lord baby Jesus, or as our brothers in the south call you,heysoos, we thank you so much for this bountiful harvest of Dominoes, KFC, and the always delicious Taco Bell. I just want to take time to say thank you for my family. My two beautiful, beautiful, handsome striking sons, Walker, and Texas Ranger, or TR as we call him. And of course my red hot smokin' wife Carley, who is a stone cold fox.
613. 'Christian God is not to blame'
Comment #102711 by Radesq on December 23, 2007 at 1:00 pm
It's been a pleasure talking with you all but it is Sunday and American football calls. See you all soon. Randall
614. Huckabee Stands by Christmas Campaign Ad
Comment #102696 by Radesq on December 23, 2007 at 12:21 pm
Oh Diacanu: I didn't see your post before I wrote my last emtry. Adam West? The Batboy approves!!
615. Huckabee Stands by Christmas Campaign Ad
Comment #102695 by Radesq on December 23, 2007 at 12:20 pm
Of Course Huckleberry can say Merry Christmas in his ads. It will be well received by most here in NH/ USA home of the first primary. Talk radio here in the US has been reporting on how Huckabee's son hung a dog to death while he was at scouting camp or some such thing (Romney inspired reports). Very Michael Vick like -- whatever it was. At any rate, he was one of the hand raisers at the debate when asked "Who doesn't believe in evolution?" what else do you need to know?
616. 'Atheistic fundamentalism' fears
Comment #102684 by Radesq on December 23, 2007 at 11:58 am
Bonzai: I have only a little understanding of the OT but I have heard the tribal god idea before and it makes sense to me. However, I think the idea of omnipotence flows naturally from it because it is a "my dad can kick your dad's ass" type of deity.
617. Blair converts to Catholicism
Comment #102681 by Radesq on December 23, 2007 at 11:54 am
I don't know that religion is the reason for the mistaken Iraq war BT Murtagh. It could be that the reason for it was to establish permanent US military bases in Iraq so troops could be relocated out of Saudi Arabia to appease OBL and those of like mind. That would be a monumentally wimpy gesture unlike the normal macho bravado of the GWB administration but such a Machiavellian motive is not out of the question (and no GWB probably does not know who Machiavelli was -- but Cheney certainly understands Dante and Satan). IMHO
618. 'Christian God is not to blame'
Comment #102675 by Radesq on December 23, 2007 at 11:48 am
Verylee...you live in the UK right? If you lived in one nation under God (USA) I don't think you'd feel that way. Maybe I'm wrong.
619. 'Atheistic fundamentalism' fears
Comment #102671 by Radesq on December 23, 2007 at 11:44 am
Yup...but you might think they'd take vulnerable over logically impossible. But no they'd rather just say God defies human understanding and logic...neh neh neh neh, neh neh. Regarding another thread I think I may be getting pissed.
620. 'Atheistic fundamentalism' fears
Comment #102666 by Radesq on December 23, 2007 at 11:36 am
D: Of course you can be both. What if Christians backed off the absolutes and said God is the most knowledgeable and the most powerful but not all powerful and all knowing. Would that solve the logic problem?
621. Bible bashing dying out in Kansas
Comment #102662 by Radesq on December 23, 2007 at 11:29 am
Roger:
Tom cat's piss = what lousy peer tastes like
622. 'Atheistic fundamentalism' fears
Comment #102659 by Radesq on December 23, 2007 at 11:25 am
Same to you agg, your going to miss a good Patriots Dolphins game though
623. 'Atheistic fundamentalism' fears
Comment #102657 by Radesq on December 23, 2007 at 11:23 am
So Diacanu, you aren't of the "Where's the evidence?" variety then. To you the God of the OT is logically impossible?
624. 'Atheistic fundamentalism' fears
Comment #102647 by Radesq on December 23, 2007 at 10:59 am
What are some irrational defenses of atheism? Perhaps I am unwittingly guilty of presenting them.
625. 'Atheistic fundamentalism' fears
Comment #102629 by Radesq on December 23, 2007 at 10:17 am
Alrighty then...so back on topic wouldn't it be fairer to say new atheists are more evangelical in nature than fundamentalist. One could say they are "preaching" preference for rational thought over faith and that the result will be atheism on the part of the thinker vs. believer.
626. 'Atheistic fundamentalism' fears
Comment #102626 by Radesq on December 23, 2007 at 10:09 am
No agg there is no sin in becoming one with the lord. (My wife might have something to say about that however)
Comment #102622 by Radesq on December 23, 2007 at 9:59 am
Sorry Corylus,That was your point first
Comment #102615 by Radesq on December 23, 2007 at 9:51 am
That was my point Steve. If somebody bothered to count these words -- couldn't a human author have counted them just as easily? Kind of elementary.
629. 'Atheistic fundamentalism' fears
Comment #102613 by Radesq on December 23, 2007 at 9:49 am
You know what agg? Upon further review, it occurs to me that God is love right, so he/she would likely be more interested in getting it on than worshiping right? Therefore, my concern would be more likely be fear of being "smitten" not smited. The whole exercise is academic of course because it won't happen.
Comment #102604 by Radesq on December 23, 2007 at 9:36 am
Who told you the words qul and qalu each appear 322 times?
631. 'Atheistic fundamentalism' fears
Comment #102598 by Radesq on December 23, 2007 at 9:25 am
No God Fearer you then. OK me either at least not until I meet him/her in person.
632. 'Atheistic fundamentalism' fears
Comment #102593 by Radesq on December 23, 2007 at 9:20 am
I understand what you are saying. But you left out my other question. What's in it for me? Even if there was a thoroughly proven God. Why would I bother to worship it? Not only do I not understand what good it would do him/her/it -- I don't know what good it would do me. If it were an imminent and apparent God in the form of the ridiculous OT God (read child with a magnifying glass aimed at anthill)then maybe self-preservation would be my motivation.
633. 'Atheistic fundamentalism' fears
Comment #102574 by Radesq on December 23, 2007 at 8:55 am
OK agg: If there were a god so obvious and incontrovertible that I would acknowledge him/her/it. A couple of questions come to mind. What purpose would my worshiping it serve, or why would it care what I think or do?
What's in it for me?
I drive the speed limit when a police car is following me. So I guess that if I really thought that there was a god that would smite me -- I might behave myself -- but there currently are no flashing lights in my mirror. What does that tell you?
634. 'Atheistic fundamentalism' fears
Comment #102562 by Radesq on December 23, 2007 at 8:29 am
If my cats began speaking to me in English, commanding me to praise Jesus -- I would seek medical attention. If they continued, I would hire an agent and try to get my own tv show. People "mistakably" follow/worship messiahs periodically all over the world -- they are sure at the time that these people are unmistakably legitimate only to find out later if they are lucky enough not to be dead -- that oops they were mistaken.
635. Survey finds most Americans believe Jesus born of virgin
Comment #102533 by Radesq on December 23, 2007 at 6:46 am
Another thing to consider was how was the survey taken. Does the survey taker call you, does he/she know your name from the telephone list or ask it before going into the questions or is it anonymous? Is it a written survey you self-elect to stop and fill out while you are shopping at the mall?
636. 'Atheistic fundamentalism' fears
Comment #102532 by Radesq on December 23, 2007 at 6:33 am
Perhaps they mean to say evangelical atheists. Aren't RD and other writers looking to convert people? Now, it is my understanding that the aim really is to convert people from simply being believers in whatever they are told to critical thinkers (not atheists per se). One could come to atheism by other means than rational thought I suppose. That wouldn't really be the point of the books or the posts on this board -- right?
637. The Pagan Christ
Comment #102140 by Radesq on December 21, 2007 at 5:21 pm
Thanks for the link Geoff.
638. The Pagan Christ
Comment #102138 by Radesq on December 21, 2007 at 5:14 pm
Thanks quill, I was thinking of changing my log in to "thread killer" because every time I post something it seems like it goes dark.
Slightly off topic, isn't this recycling of myths pretty common place? Isn't there a striking similarity between the story of Noah and of the Mesopotamian (where the Jews spent a great deal of time if I've got my facts right)flood story of Gilgamesh?
639. The Pagan Christ
Comment #102136 by Radesq on December 21, 2007 at 4:58 pm
Geoff I don't have a Bible, never have. I've tried reading a little online but it doesn't usually go well for me. I actually know a fair amount just through osmosis I guess -- I can tell from the posts I have read here in the past couple of days that quite a few people here know their Bible intimately.
640. The Pagan Christ
Comment #102135 by Radesq on December 21, 2007 at 4:55 pm
Hi Geoff: No I am not serious, but I love to learn new things like the nuggets you just provided. Thanks...sorry if I exasperated you a bit.
641. The Pagan Christ
Comment #102133 by Radesq on December 21, 2007 at 4:42 pm
Hi back Shane: What does that mean though to treat it like any historical document. The US Constitution is an historical document and I attach a very strong importance to it. I don't think it is infallible (or there would be no need of amendments)but then again it isn't literature. The Iliad would be a historical document but I don't take it as being a literal history. Where does the Bible fit on this spectrum?
642. The Pagan Christ
Comment #102130 by Radesq on December 21, 2007 at 4:18 pm
OK I'm being silly I know -- but I like to hear people who know more about the Bible and Church history give me details -- even if it is only confirming what I already think. Don't let me waste your time though if you don't want to respond.
643. The Pagan Christ
Comment #102129 by Radesq on December 21, 2007 at 4:14 pm
Shane it almost sounds as if some parts of the Bible actually contradict other parts. How can that be the case if the Bible is the inspired word of God? Are you merely describing transcription errors?
644. Jesus Rides the Number 7 Train
Comment #102122 by Radesq on December 21, 2007 at 3:45 pm
What about Jesus versus eleven tiny Ditka's?
645. This Is Not a Test
Comment #102111 by Radesq on December 21, 2007 at 3:15 pm
The last 7 years could not have been more poorly handled by Al Gore, Hillary Clinton or almost anyone else. To prove it I'll back it up with the same evidence you presented in support of your diatribe -- none. I don't think this forum is the place to get into bashing or defending the GWB Delusion -- so I'll not go on unless provoked.
646. Good God! A politician who doesn't believe...
Comment #102087 by Radesq on December 21, 2007 at 2:30 pm
10 inches whig
647. The Pagan Christ
Comment #102075 by Radesq on December 21, 2007 at 2:15 pm
Because if you are Shane then I would have to agree with you.
648. The Pagan Christ
Comment #102072 by Radesq on December 21, 2007 at 2:10 pm
Are you saying that despite the fact there was an historical Jesus, the Jesus of the Bible is fictional?
649. Debate between Michael Shermer and Dinesh D'Souza
Comment #102067 by Radesq on December 21, 2007 at 1:55 pm
dsouzaphile: What part of the definition of ideology in your 165 post do you believe applies to atheism? Or do you mean they all do?
650. Debate between Michael Shermer and Dinesh D'Souza
Comment #102061 by Radesq on December 21, 2007 at 1:47 pm
Diacanu - (I should have included another even more repressive religion in my previous comment, also a possibility) Otherwise, I mostly agree except that it would be my goal to prevent another evil from stepping into those shoes rather than having to topple the next one (but if necessary then so be it) and I think it would be a very long time before all evil is gone. What constitutes evil has a funny way of evolving to suit its environment. But the fight must go on