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Comments by irate_atheist


651. In search of the God particle

Comment #156758 by irate_atheist on April 8, 2008 at 8:27 am

5. Comment #156750 by Pattern Seeker -

I might, or might not, chip in a few bucks. The envelope may - or may not - contain cash. Only by opening the envelope will we find out.

652. Richard Dawkins: 'Growth in creationist beliefs a problem for schools'

Comment #156743 by irate_atheist on April 8, 2008 at 8:13 am

172. Comment #156733 by yussel123 -

So yes, fantasies can be damaging, no matter how presented.
WTF? Is 'Holby City' irredemably damaging me?

653. Cult leader Pyotr Kuznetsov tries suicide after realising he was wrong about doomsday

Comment #156741 by irate_atheist on April 8, 2008 at 8:10 am

311. Comment #156719 by Quetzalcoatl -

In my experience, everyone else is wrong. Apart from you of course. And Epeeist. And Dr B And, oh bugger, another attempt at self-diagnosis falls by the wayside.

654. Richard Dawkins: 'Growth in creationist beliefs a problem for schools'

Comment #156734 by irate_atheist on April 8, 2008 at 8:05 am

153. Comment #156702 by yussel123 -

I will not be telling them the universe is 6000 years old.

I will not be telling them a sky daddy watches their every move.

Children have to be taught SOMETHING, don't they? Do you advocate leaving children on their own to let them learn things randomly? We teach them all sorts of things.
I certainly was not 'taught' all sorts of 'childish' things. I learnt how to read, write and do maths. I learnt about history, science, engineering, nature etc. None of these are childish 'thing's'. You can simplify an explanation for a child, but you DO NOT TEACH THEM LIES. A seven year old may not be able to understand quantum mechanics, but they can learn how a simple electrical circuit with a battery an a bulb works and that electron's 'flow' around the closed circuit and their energy is used to light (and heat) the bulb.

When they're young, of course you read them Chicken Little, nursery rhymes etc. but you sure as fuck don't end it by saying 'you have to believe this really happened - for the rest of your life - otherwise you're not a good person and won't get into a (fictional) heaven.

Children need education and information - not pig ignorant bullshit dressed up as fact. [/rant]

655. Richard Dawkins: 'Growth in creationist beliefs a problem for schools'

Comment #156700 by irate_atheist on April 8, 2008 at 6:58 am

148. Comment #156696 by yussel123 -

They are delusional. The least delusional think 'but there must be something more than this life. The most delusional and up living in caves and dropping logs on their own heads. We get to call the latter 'schizophrenics' and they get medical treatment.

Childhood indoctrination is a form of mental child abuse. I could write for years on this, but instead am currently undoing years of psychological damage done to someone by this.

656. Richard Dawkins: 'Growth in creationist beliefs a problem for schools'

Comment #156674 by irate_atheist on April 8, 2008 at 6:12 am

125. Comment #156669 by yussel123 -

...both sides are talking "at" each other and not "to" each other.
It is impossible to talk sense to someone who has deliberately given up their reason.
I don't know the answer to the question of how to deal with the delusion.
But then again...who does?

657. Richard Dawkins: 'Growth in creationist beliefs a problem for schools'

Comment #156639 by irate_atheist on April 8, 2008 at 5:01 am

98. Comment #156635 by Steve Zara -

Surestart. Working Tax Credits. Child tax Credits. Pension Credit. Increased minimum holiday entitlements.

658. Richard Dawkins: 'Growth in creationist beliefs a problem for schools'

Comment #156636 by irate_atheist on April 8, 2008 at 4:56 am

97. Comment #156633 by yussel123 -

Dawkins presentations of his case give an opening to critics to claim that he is blind to any evidence against his position.
Around here, we've been asking for this 'evidence' for years. Strangely enough, nothing that constitutes 'evidence' is ever presented.

The only reasonable conclusion to reach is that there is no evidence against his position.

659. Richard Dawkins: 'Growth in creationist beliefs a problem for schools'

Comment #156631 by irate_atheist on April 8, 2008 at 4:47 am

95. Comment #156630 by AllanW -

In Steve's defence, I will start with two little words: Minimum wage.

660. Richard Dawkins: 'Growth in creationist beliefs a problem for schools'

Comment #156629 by irate_atheist on April 8, 2008 at 4:36 am

92. Comment #156622 by hungarianelephant -

Tut tut. I included the modifier seemed. Steve is right. Large strides seem to have been made - both in legislation and general society - towards treatment of gays etc.

A welcome change for those of us that abhor prejudice and intolerance.

These days, with almost everything he does or says, Blair sinks further into the mire. I'm not sure he really knows what he believes about anything, but he certainly knows that he does believe it, and that he's right.

661. Vote on freedom of expression marks the end of Universal Human Rights

Comment #156623 by irate_atheist on April 8, 2008 at 4:21 am

235. Comment #156618 by Steve Zara -

Indeed. As one man said, freedom of speech does not extend to shouting 'fire' in a crowded theatre.

662. Richard Dawkins: 'Growth in creationist beliefs a problem for schools'

Comment #156620 by irate_atheist on April 8, 2008 at 4:13 am

90. Comment #156617 by Greyman -

Dammit. I knew I should have stuck to my guns. I retract the statement 'Indeed. It may well not be at all important.'

He's a firm believer that a Christian voice (ie church representatives) needs to be represented in political debates. He's also a main member of the Parlimentary Prayer Group.
Uh oh...shades of Bush and Blair, I'm afraid. Too close to nutter territory for my liking. If he really believes those 'prayers' actually affect the world, well, insert the missing adjective please.

663. Richard Dawkins: 'Growth in creationist beliefs a problem for schools'

Comment #156616 by irate_atheist on April 8, 2008 at 4:04 am

88. Comment #156610 by DasSquid -

Indeed. It may well not be at all important. As I say, he seems a decent enough chap and best of luck to him.

Politicians certainly suck up to the faith community, thereby giving it the oxygen of respectibility that it does not deserve. After all, it's about getting votes. Rather tricky to do if you publicly state to a large tranche of your electorate 'you're deluded fools, how can you believe such tripe?'

Anyway, I'm on the extreme wing of the atheist non-movement, as you may have gathered. After all, I am one of the few people who regard that Christopher Hitchens is just too polite...

Edit: Having read this post, I'm not quite sure what I'm saying here. Oh, well, buggrit. I'm sure you understand where I'm coming from.

664. Cult leader Pyotr Kuznetsov tries suicide after realising he was wrong about doomsday

Comment #156605 by irate_atheist on April 8, 2008 at 2:56 am

295. Comment #156603 by Steve Zara -

One ball left.

665. Richard Dawkins: 'Growth in creationist beliefs a problem for schools'

Comment #156604 by irate_atheist on April 8, 2008 at 2:54 am

81. Comment #156571 by DasSquid -

We're an incredibly secular country, hell, I don't even know if Kevin Rudd (our current Prime Minister) is even religious! Becuase it just doesn't matter here.

It doesn't matter? I strongly disagree. In this day and age, that someone in charge of a major government believes a collection of tales written by camel herding primitives, is quite important. He may, at one crucial juncture, decide he's on some kind of messianic mission.

He seems a decent enough sort. A caring, intelligent, thoughtful man. But then again, so seemed Blair. And his imaginary friend said it was OK to invade another country, and a million real people shouting 'No' in the streets couldn't make him see reason.

(Wanders off, expecting to be castigated for his views...)

666. Cult leader Pyotr Kuznetsov tries suicide after realising he was wrong about doomsday

Comment #156601 by irate_atheist on April 8, 2008 at 2:46 am

293. Comment #156597 by Philip1978 -

Hows that?
Not out.

667. Cult leader Pyotr Kuznetsov tries suicide after realising he was wrong about doomsday

Comment #156593 by irate_atheist on April 8, 2008 at 1:56 am

Er...scared of commenting further. But...

291. Comment #156590 by Steve Zara -

It has been revealed that Philip1978, who one assumed was the possibly the nicest and most cheerful person posting here listens to death metal music.
Well, they say the Devil has the best tunes (which would also explain some of Cliff Richards pisspoor back catalogue...)

668. Get out of here, atheists!

Comment #156591 by irate_atheist on April 8, 2008 at 1:52 am

So. The fucktards are outing themselves now. Splendid.

669. Expelled Overview

Comment #156302 by irate_atheist on April 7, 2008 at 9:28 am

195. Comment #156298 by clearmind -

Stop smoking the crack-pipe. Let someone else have a puff.

670. Russell T Davies: Return of the (tea) Time Lord

Comment #156292 by irate_atheist on April 7, 2008 at 9:08 am

52. Comment #156289 by Geoff -

Ditto.

Although, for some reason, my irrational baseless hatred of Mick Hucknall reduces my enjoyment of listening to anything by Simply Red.

Not everything makes sense in life. Especially when you're irate all the time...

671. Fleabytes

Comment #156271 by irate_atheist on April 7, 2008 at 8:11 am

7729. Comment #156230 by Frankus1122 -

I would like to sincerely thank clearthinker. if he is the best the theists can offer as a defense of their position I am truly satisfied with my athiest position.
Ditto. Every time I hear a theist saying, well, practically anything, the total sum of evidence against them being right increases.

The more they say that flies in the face of reason and science, the more convinced a freethinker can be that it is end-to-end bollocks.

Not only does the emperor have no clothes, there's no emperor to be clothed.

672. Dawkins warns of human extinction

Comment #155220 by irate_atheist on April 4, 2008 at 8:40 am

52. Comment #155211 by Artful_Dodger -

I would like to to say that:

I asked you a direct question. Have the courtesy to respond or stop posting.

673. Dawkins warns of human extinction

Comment #155210 by irate_atheist on April 4, 2008 at 8:33 am

Oh, and by the way, 'Kenny the Christian' - whoever and wherever you are - fucktard.

674. Dawkins warns of human extinction

Comment #155204 by irate_atheist on April 4, 2008 at 8:28 am

38. Comment #155197 by al-rawandi -

If history teaches us anything, it is that we don't learn from history.

That is why I don't hold out much hope over the next few centuries. Just glad I won't be around to see how it ends...

675. Dawkins warns of human extinction

Comment #155195 by irate_atheist on April 4, 2008 at 8:21 am

33. Comment #155191 by Cartomancer -

If they're called Jesus, it's OK. Apparently. Mere mortals should only be admired in hushed tones.

Edit: 35. Comment #155194 by Artful_Dodger -

So, astrology, what's your view on it as a subject?

676. Dawkins warns of human extinction

Comment #155190 by irate_atheist on April 4, 2008 at 8:19 am

15. Comment #155164 by Artful_Dodger -

comments are one thing, sycophantic adulation is another.
Indeed. Such childish behaviour should be kept where it belongs. Churches, Mosques, Synagogues etc. and not in the real world.[/sarcasm]

4. Comment #155106 by Steve Zara -
I can't agree that we could be heading for extinction.
On what timescale do you not agree that we are heading for extinction. 100 years? 1,000 years? 1 million years? 1 billion years? I would contend that all species are heading towards extinction, it's just that some are heading there sooner than others...Whaddya think?

677. Whale 'missing link' discovered

Comment #155173 by irate_atheist on April 4, 2008 at 8:08 am

36. Comment #155056 by aragorn2007 -

Thank you all for your comments.The Reverend Dark was a bit harsh on me but I forgive him.
Ho, ho, ho. If you think the goodly Rev a bit harsh, if you persist in your breathtaking inanity, you will find what harsh is.

It may just be that the purpose of your life is to provide me with a few minutes of visceral amusement. Only time will tell.

678. Cult leader Pyotr Kuznetsov tries suicide after realising he was wrong about doomsday

Comment #155160 by irate_atheist on April 4, 2008 at 7:56 am

"A blow to the head, like that, is worth two in the bush." - Basil Fawlty

679. Cult leader Pyotr Kuznetsov tries suicide after realising he was wrong about doomsday

Comment #155108 by irate_atheist on April 4, 2008 at 7:17 am

The people in the cave consider themselves Orthodox Christians and not cult members."

Presumably this is the 'not my cult' defence.


Now, if he'd called himself Mohammed, been born 1500 years ago and owned a flying horse, he'd have got away with it. Might even have started a new religion - who knows? Stranger things have happened.

680. Fleabytes

Comment #154427 by irate_atheist on April 3, 2008 at 8:07 am

wooter
flea
McGrath


Actually, I think I'll go and wash my hands after typing that. Feeling a bit grubby...

681. Fleabytes

Comment #154412 by irate_atheist on April 3, 2008 at 7:38 am

7633. Comment #154411 by Peacebeuponme -

Gimbalgroin?

682. Fleabytes

Comment #154410 by irate_atheist on April 3, 2008 at 7:35 am

7627. Comment #154402 by epeeist -

So what are the odds of Yorkshire finishing above Lancashire in the county championships this year?
Ceiling cat sez lol! Srsly.

And do you think that the Duckworth-Lewis rules ought to be amended?
Plz, we talkin bout yes/no ceiling cat here - not ridiclus ideaz, lik. No kthnx.

683. Fleabytes

Comment #154395 by irate_atheist on April 3, 2008 at 7:11 am

7620. Comment #154394 by Star Spangled Eagle -

Suck hard?
Anna, see what you've started here?

Enough already.

684. CEAI Action Alert for Science Teachers

Comment #154392 by irate_atheist on April 3, 2008 at 7:06 am

Excellent. A self-confessed ignoramous.

Give the man a dunce's hat and stick him in the corner.

685. Fleabytes

Comment #154389 by irate_atheist on April 3, 2008 at 7:01 am

I'm holding back on gimletbrain.

For now.

But I may not be able to hold back for long.

It depends.

686. Fleabytes

Comment #153812 by irate_atheist on April 2, 2008 at 5:49 am

7436. Comment #153807 by epeeist -

Some of the things I've posted were aimed at David's head, and yet they were still too high.

687. Fleabytes

Comment #153808 by irate_atheist on April 2, 2008 at 5:41 am

7411. Comment #153739 by Philip1978 -

You almost remind me of Carcer Dun, the villain from the Terry Pratchet book, Nightwatch
For me, he is more like Colonel Cargill:

Colonel Cargill was so awful a marketing executive that his services were much sought after by firms eager to establish losses for tax purposes. His prices were high, for failure often did not come easily. He had to start at the top and work his way the down, and with sympathetic friends in Washington, losing money was no simple matter. It took months of hard work and careful misplanning. He was a self-made man who owed his lack of success to nobody. - Joseph Heller, Catch-22

688. Vote on freedom of expression marks the end of Universal Human Rights

Comment #153223 by irate_atheist on April 1, 2008 at 8:33 am

138. Comment #153222 by Steve Zara -

I believe firmly in one man, one vote.

I am that man, and I can wield that vote.

It is a democractic system that may have it's flaws, but at least it generates a clear result each time ;)

689. Vote on freedom of expression marks the end of Universal Human Rights

Comment #153220 by irate_atheist on April 1, 2008 at 8:20 am

133. Comment #153217 by Geoff -

Diacanu - absolutely.

But to balance vitriol with charm, may I nominate Philip?

690. Vote on freedom of expression marks the end of Universal Human Rights

Comment #153212 by irate_atheist on April 1, 2008 at 7:56 am

123. Comment #153200 by Quetzalcoatl -

Steve-

I nominate Irate_Atheist and The Reverend Dark.
I will only accept nomination if I find both the remuneration package,and fellow panel members, acceptable.

So far, so good...

Edit: 129. Comment #153208 by Monosilabbiq -
What happens when good men do nothing ?
Myself and Steve post here. It helps to pass the time.

691. Vatican: Islam surpasses Roman Catholicism as world's largest religion

Comment #153109 by irate_atheist on April 1, 2008 at 3:47 am

38. Comment #153104 by Bonzai -

Perhaps I'm just too rabidly anti-religious.

692. Vatican: Islam surpasses Roman Catholicism as world's largest religion

Comment #153103 by irate_atheist on April 1, 2008 at 3:34 am

35. Comment #153099 by Bonzai -

Do you use condoms with your wife because you think she may have HIV? If not, or if you do that just for contraception then I don't see your point.
If you were married, you'd have understood the joke...

Edit: 36. Comment #153102 by Steve Zara -

Be fair, Steve. Poodle hair doesn't even look dignified on a poodle :)

693. Vatican: Islam surpasses Roman Catholicism as world's largest religion

Comment #153096 by irate_atheist on April 1, 2008 at 3:08 am

32. Comment #153091 by Bonzai -

What's the essence of your point? That the Catholic church is not so bad because we are (currently, and in the west only) able to shackle them? Hardly leaves them with much moral credit it the bank, does it?

A shackled murderer is still a murderer. Remove the shackles and you still have a serious problem on your hands. Given some of Rizo Ratso's senior henchmen's recent pronouncements, they cannot be seen as a civilizing force for good in the world.

Edit:

Presumably you will also go to hell for having sex.
What!? With my wife!? How could it possibly happen?

694. Vatican: Islam surpasses Roman Catholicism as world's largest religion

Comment #153086 by irate_atheist on April 1, 2008 at 2:43 am

27. Comment #153079 by Bonzai -

"Won't let them"? What if they do, are they going to be beheaded?
Presumably they tell them they will go to hell. Presumably, being ignorant, superstitious and gullible, they may well believe it.

695. Christian Founders 3D Adventure Computer Game

Comment #153067 by irate_atheist on April 1, 2008 at 1:58 am

More 'lying for Jesus'.

696. Vatican: Islam surpasses Roman Catholicism as world's largest religion

Comment #153065 by irate_atheist on April 1, 2008 at 1:57 am

A case of 'who's got the biggest cult', eh?

697. Anti-Quran Film Fitna Pulled From Web Due to 'Threats'

Comment #152635 by irate_atheist on March 31, 2008 at 9:28 am

140. Comment #152633 by Fanusi Khiyal -

Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel. - Samuel Johnson, April 7, 1775

698. Fleabytes

Comment #152631 by irate_atheist on March 31, 2008 at 9:21 am

7379. Comment #152621 by Richard Morgan -

Jocktard.

699. Fleabytes

Comment #152615 by irate_atheist on March 31, 2008 at 9:02 am

7374. Comment #152608 by Richard Morgan -

Which of his two titles qualifies him to be called "A leading figure in the Free Church of Scotland"?
Neither. However, his third title - which can be supplied by yours truly (at no extra cost) - does.

700. My quest to get de-baptised

Comment #152579 by irate_atheist on March 31, 2008 at 8:27 am

55. Comment #152573 by Bonzai -

Hence the phrase 'dropped a clanger'.

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