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651. 'Irrational Atheist' trounces God-deniers

Comment #119283 by annabanana on January 31, 2008 at 12:53 pm

Kardashovel, you still didn't answer my question completely. Tell us your conversion story from atheism to Christianity. What led you to conclude that it was correct?

I'll also echo Goldy and tell you that it took a LOT of critical thinking for me to get where I am now. It wasn't easy and it still isn't easy.

652. 'Irrational Atheist' trounces God-deniers

Comment #119259 by annabanana on January 31, 2008 at 12:36 pm

[sarcasm]Ah, ok. Everyone, apparently Kardashovel is way beyond our intelligence level and we should all bow down to him, for HE, is the correct interpreter of the scripture; God's own appointee!![/sarcasm]

653. 'Irrational Atheist' trounces God-deniers

Comment #119254 by annabanana on January 31, 2008 at 12:31 pm

I think that comment should go down in history as the single best example of circular reasoning on the planet, Kardashovel. Congratulations!

EDIT: Comment #895 (as if anyone wouldn't know what I was talking about)

654. 'Irrational Atheist' trounces God-deniers

Comment #119252 by annabanana on January 31, 2008 at 12:29 pm

And another thing, you said that you were raised as an atheist. Why the f*** did you choose Christianity of all the other available religions? What was wrong with Islam, Hindu, Buddhism, etc? If I were going to pick a religion....oh wait...nm

655. 'Irrational Atheist' trounces God-deniers

Comment #119241 by annabanana on January 31, 2008 at 12:24 pm

Also, throughout your whole diatribe, you speak about your particular interpretation of scripture as the reason why you believe what you believe. What makes you think that your interpretation is better than someone with a different interpretation than yours? Are you so arrogant to assume that your understanding is much superior to a good percentage of other people?

656. 'Irrational Atheist' trounces God-deniers

Comment #119232 by annabanana on January 31, 2008 at 12:21 pm

He needs to be that way, so that he can exist

Why? Why is his existence contingent on him/her/it being a good and just god?

657. 'Irrational Atheist' trounces God-deniers

Comment #119228 by annabanana on January 31, 2008 at 12:18 pm

I have no proof of this, but I think it would be an educated guess to say that there are as many variations on Christianity as there are Christians in the world.

658. 'Irrational Atheist' trounces God-deniers

Comment #119224 by annabanana on January 31, 2008 at 12:12 pm

Becomethearrow, if you aren't going to say anything useful...maybe you should shut up.

659. 'Irrational Atheist' trounces God-deniers

Comment #119214 by annabanana on January 31, 2008 at 12:01 pm

Oh, I forgot, annabanana, you are too pretty to be smart.


[sarcasm]Ah yes, I love intelligent refutations of my arguments. It's so refreshing to see a theist who knows how to debate so prolifically.[/sarcasm]

660. 'Irrational Atheist' trounces God-deniers

Comment #119208 by annabanana on January 31, 2008 at 11:52 am

f I may be so bold as to conjecture, I would suggest that you feel this way because someone that refuses to test their faith with science would be particularly easy for you to defeat or ignore. You don't like faith heads stomping on your sacred ground of science, do you?


No, it's because starting with a conclusion and cherry-picking for "evidence" to support it is opposite from the way science actually works. It is scientific and intellectual dishonesty.

661. 'Irrational Atheist' trounces God-deniers

Comment #119203 by annabanana on January 31, 2008 at 11:49 am

Steve, yes, cherry-picking science to support one's arguments is particularly annoying to me, as well. Dinesh does it constantly and it irks me to no end.

662. 'Irrational Atheist' trounces God-deniers

Comment #119197 by annabanana on January 31, 2008 at 11:41 am

Kardashovel, I am sorry that you haven't been around long enough to have read some of my more serious arguments. However, I will direct you to the link on this comment and others of mine that says "other comments by annabanana" where you can see that I have indeed made many serious arguments on this forum along with some friendly chatting along the way.

If you would like me to take a beef with something in particular that you said, I can and I will. I think Steve has covered the physics topics fairly well, so I'll move on to some of the theological arguments.

You said that it is not necessary to believe in God or Jesus in order to get into heaven. How do you know this? I don't recall ever studying those passages in my Biblical Religion course or in my other readings of the Bible. If you are contending that you have some sort of special relationship with God and/or Jesus where he explicitly tells you things like this, I would like you to provide some proof. Other than the two options I have explored, I don't know how you would come to the conclusion that people who do not believe in God and/or Jesus can still get into heaven or some sort of a purgatory at least by simply living good lives. I would ask you to explain how you came to this conclusion and what proof you have that this is correct.

Nevermind proving God and/or Jesus even exist in the first place.

663. 'Irrational Atheist' trounces God-deniers

Comment #119177 by annabanana on January 31, 2008 at 11:22 am

Lol, Thank you, Steve. Normally, I prefer just to say something intelligent to prove whoever it is wrong, but at least 2 of the theists on this particular thread chose to make remarks of aforementioned effect, so I could no longer keep my mouth shut.

Also, they were making so many egregious errors, I couldn't quite decide to which one I wanted to respond intelligently. And perhaps this is the wrong attitude to have, but I couldn't help but to think that no matter what brilliant argument was put before them, they would simply wave it away and stick to what they have already decided for themselves.

664. 'Irrational Atheist' trounces God-deniers

Comment #119161 by annabanana on January 31, 2008 at 11:09 am

Kardashovel, I thought you were leaving?

A number of people on this site have spoken to me in as if I were simply a silly little girl. I tire of it very quickly as I think that the things I say are usually fairly intelligent, I would say.

If you are unable to recognize the atrocious logical errors that you have made when Steve points them out, I doubt that any that I point out will convince you either.

By the way, while we are on the subject of looks, I think ninja turtles are hotter than pirates.

665. 'Irrational Atheist' trounces God-deniers

Comment #119024 by annabanana on January 31, 2008 at 9:17 am

I suppose I just am not enjoying being spoken to in the chauvanistic manner that I've been spoken to since Pretty Lady showed up.

I think I'll change my avatar to an ugly hairy fat guy, then maybe they'll take me seriously.

666. 'Irrational Atheist' trounces God-deniers

Comment #119012 by annabanana on January 31, 2008 at 9:08 am

Sinners may still be saved from this fate by grace, even if they are VeryNaughtyBoy's that don't believe in God... as long as they don't categorically reject the Holy Spirit. So, fear not. You probably aren't going to hell, as your name is probably written in the book of life.


[sarcasm]Well, thank the Flying Spaghetti Monster, we're not going to hell after all! I was so worried! Aren't you guys relieved?

But what's a pretty little betty like myself doing posting on this site in the first place? I forgot my place was in the kitchen.[/sarcasm]

Are we seriously still talking to these people after the all of the logical atrocities they've committed?

667. 'Irrational Atheist' trounces God-deniers

Comment #118953 by annabanana on January 31, 2008 at 8:01 am

Personal anecdote is by no means indicative of an actual trend.

But if you'd like to start some sort of a statistic, I'll give you my reason:

I became an atheist because it made sense! Believing in God doesn't. I wasn't recoiling from anything.

Also, as an aside, what does being a "betty" have to do with anything?

668. Sentenced to death: Afghan who dared to read about women's rights

Comment #118950 by annabanana on January 31, 2008 at 7:57 am

Yes, GoneGolfing, and if you do choose the violence option, where does it end? How do you decide who to kill and who not to kill? What if there's a muslim leader who advocates more women's rights, but at the same time murder for all apostates? What do you do with someone like that?

Then there's always the consequence of retaliation.

669. 'Irrational Atheist' trounces God-deniers

Comment #118947 by annabanana on January 31, 2008 at 7:52 am

Many atheists that I have met are recoiling from a very ugly picture of God that reflects the fear and loathing that his unrighteous "followers" loan to the unscrupulous "leaders" that hypocritically seek only power.

And what proof do you have of this? Have you conducted a study? Has someone else conducted a study. That's a very broad, unfounded assertion you're making.

al-rawandi, whenever I see Fanusi pop up on a thread, I immediately know 2 things:
1)It somehow relates to muslims/Islam.
2)I don't want to participate in the debate. :)

Did you miss all of the debates he had with briancoughlinsworld? It was intense, to say the least.

670. 'Irrational Atheist' trounces God-deniers

Comment #118937 by annabanana on January 31, 2008 at 7:42 am

Well said, oisha.

Besides, now I have all of the Brian Greene books on cosmology to read! I don't have time for crap like that!

671. 'Irrational Atheist' trounces God-deniers

Comment #118922 by annabanana on January 31, 2008 at 7:01 am

Thanks, epeeist, I'll look them up. The only thing I've read thus far is part of Stephen Hawking's The Universe in a Nutshell.

672. Sentenced to death: Afghan who dared to read about women's rights

Comment #118921 by annabanana on January 31, 2008 at 6:59 am

I get really frustrated when I read about things like this because I can't decide what side of the fence I'm on. I mean, obviously, I think something needs to be done about fundamental Islam, but what? There are people on here who advocate violence and those that advocate diplomacy and it seems impossible to know which one is appropriate.

673. 'Irrational Atheist' trounces God-deniers

Comment #118918 by annabanana on January 31, 2008 at 6:55 am

Steve, where is it that you have learned so much about cosmology and physics? Do you have any books that you would recommend that I read?

674. 'Irrational Atheist' trounces God-deniers

Comment #118917 by annabanana on January 31, 2008 at 6:53 am

Yeah, I read some of it. That broken arrow guy, or whatever his name was got rather ridiculous with his "my mom says" bs.

al-rawandi, check your pm :)

675. 'Irrational Atheist' trounces God-deniers

Comment #118899 by annabanana on January 31, 2008 at 6:23 am

For the love of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, what the hell happened here? How did we go from Vox Day appears to be a moron to conjecturing about the universe??!!

676. Happy Birthday Josh Timonen!

Comment #118891 by annabanana on January 31, 2008 at 6:11 am

I hope you have a fabulous, godless birthday!

Thanks for all you do for/with the site!!

677. 'Irrational Atheist' trounces God-deniers

Comment #118708 by annabanana on January 30, 2008 at 9:37 pm

Radesq, I don't think I will. Good night everyone. It's 12:30 am here, so I best be getting to bed anyway!

678. 'Irrational Atheist' trounces God-deniers

Comment #118694 by annabanana on January 30, 2008 at 9:14 pm

I go home from work and all of this mess ensues, I don't even know how to get back into this!

679. 'Irrational Atheist' trounces God-deniers

Comment #118275 by annabanana on January 30, 2008 at 2:37 pm

Worry not, I am sure few will dispute the fact that you catch the light far more effectively than she does :-)


Thank you, although I must say that if I were forced to choose between looks and intelligence, I'd go with intelligence, so if I am indeed attractive, that's only an added bonus.

She may have been wearing a "Jesus loves me" T-shirt.

LOL! That'll never happen, unless I become senile, and from the looks of the other article that may be curable by the time I'm that age! :)

al-rawandi, you broke your chair because of the other chick, not my private message I hope??

680. 'Irrational Atheist' trounces God-deniers

Comment #118243 by annabanana on January 30, 2008 at 2:02 pm

al-rawandi, check your private messages :)

681. 'Irrational Atheist' trounces God-deniers

Comment #118239 by annabanana on January 30, 2008 at 1:59 pm

By the way, if we're so damn anti-social what the f*** are we doing on here anyway? And myspace for that matter...

682. 'Irrational Atheist' trounces God-deniers

Comment #118235 by annabanana on January 30, 2008 at 1:55 pm

She did miss several of the arguments in the middle, though, al-rawandi, so you'll have to make a note of that. You're going to publish this study, right? ;)

683. 'Irrational Atheist' trounces God-deniers

Comment #118233 by annabanana on January 30, 2008 at 1:53 pm

evidence trumps theory

Indeed it does. She just became one more to add to the evidence for al-rawandi's theory that:

The theist argument:

Atheists are nihilists
Hitler was an atheist (argumentum ad hitlerum)
Evolution is a theory
Second law of thermodynamics
Pascal's wager
Can't disprove God
I am busy and have to go

684. 'Irrational Atheist' trounces God-deniers

Comment #118228 by annabanana on January 30, 2008 at 1:47 pm

Well, you haven't, have you? Gracious.

Of course we haven't. Your memory must be quite short. I said we hadn't in one of my earlier posts. I believe you are the one whose reading comprehension skills are in need of vast improvement.

A bit arrogant, don't you think, to name yourself Pretty Lady and assume that your logic is much better than all of ours?

685. 'Irrational Atheist' trounces God-deniers

Comment #118215 by annabanana on January 30, 2008 at 1:36 pm

You're joking, right? Pretty Lady, it seems that you have failed to actually read the authors which Vox criticizes in his books. This is ironic considering that you have accused us of not reading the book and expect us to do so upon your command.

686. 'Irrational Atheist' trounces God-deniers

Comment #118202 by annabanana on January 30, 2008 at 1:21 pm

But since the Will to Power exists with distressing, Darwininan frequency among the more-charismatic males of the species, and since statistical historical evidence suggests that Atheism+Will To Power=Rampant Genocide, even of one's own subjects, to a greater order of magnitude than Theism+Will To Power ever did, it Gives One Pause.

I can hardly type I'm laughing so hard. I'll direct you to the many arguments in the God Delusion and also on this site and others which refute this exact argument.

687. MySpace: No place for Atheists?

Comment #118193 by annabanana on January 30, 2008 at 1:09 pm

Steve, you are needed immediately in the "'Irrational Atheist' trounces god-deniers" thread. Your existence is in question.

688. 'Irrational Atheist' trounces God-deniers

Comment #118190 by annabanana on January 30, 2008 at 1:06 pm

[sarcasm]Oh yes, we atheists are running around murdering everyone. That's what I like to do on a daily basis, what about you guys? While I'm at it, I'll confess that I'm also a nihilist and a rapist. Oh! And I advocate genocide constantly for those who believe in god/gods![/sarcasm]

Anyone smelling a troll? Or is it just me.

689. 'Irrational Atheist' trounces God-deniers

Comment #118181 by annabanana on January 30, 2008 at 12:53 pm

Think of this; if we should take away all documentary evidence, there would still be Steve. Should we take away all testamentary evidence, there would still be Steve. Should we remove all of Steve's blood tests, his tax returns, his Social Security number, his place of residence, his job title and his dinner jacket, there, resplendent, would be Steve!


Of course, there would be Steve! Many people can see him and touch him and hear him and it is testable that he is there. Last time I checked, you couldn't see or touch or hear or test that a god or gods is there. You've refuted yourself. We needn't do it for you.

690. 'Irrational Atheist' trounces God-deniers

Comment #118173 by annabanana on January 30, 2008 at 12:47 pm

Darlings! Yoo-hoo! Have any of you actually read the book?

Had you actually bothered to read any of our posts you would see that most of us have not read the book and we all gave explicit reason why we did not read or do not intend to read the book. These reasons range from the sampling of Mr. Vox's apparent style from the interview to him having to ride the coattails of Sam Harris in order to gain notice. Until some brilliant examples from his writing that show the "problems" of the "four horsemen" have been provided by you or someone else, all we have to go on are reviews, interviews, and covers. All indications thus far is that this book isn't worth our time and no amount of speaking to us in a condescending tone will change that.

691. Scientists discover way to reverse loss of memory

Comment #118155 by annabanana on January 30, 2008 at 12:26 pm

I was thinking the same thing slyer! I want one if it improves my learning abilities. Maybe we should let all the theists have first dibs, though, since they obviously need the increased learning ability more than we do. ;)

692. 'Irrational Atheist' trounces God-deniers

Comment #118143 by annabanana on January 30, 2008 at 12:01 pm

lol! TMNT ref! FTW...oh wait, this is RD.net, not icanhascheezburger.com...

693. 'Irrational Atheist' trounces God-deniers

Comment #118140 by annabanana on January 30, 2008 at 11:59 am

If you can't handle the heat, get out of the kitchen.

694. 'Irrational Atheist' trounces God-deniers

Comment #118131 by annabanana on January 30, 2008 at 11:44 am

Geez, who's being shrill now?

695. What should a scientist think about religion?

Comment #118123 by annabanana on January 30, 2008 at 11:17 am

This was absolutely fantastic, PZ. I don't think anyone could have put it more eloquently and precisely.

696. MySpace: No place for Atheists?

Comment #118106 by annabanana on January 30, 2008 at 10:53 am

I'll be deleting my account at the end of the day when I get home. That's absolutely ridiculous.

697. 'Irrational Atheist' trounces God-deniers

Comment #118100 by annabanana on January 30, 2008 at 10:46 am

I hope that nordicthunder isn't Vox Day. If he is, then this guy is one arrogant a$$----! Even if I wrote a book that I thought was superb, I wouldn't say so aloud and I would certainly never say that my arguments were logically unassailable!

698. 'Irrational Atheist' trounces God-deniers

Comment #118051 by annabanana on January 30, 2008 at 9:20 am

Hahahaha, argumentum ad hitlerum, I like it.

699. Atheism and Violence

Comment #118049 by annabanana on January 30, 2008 at 9:18 am

Ah well, you see: I read a lot of the posts by Zara, Epeeist, Paula Kirby, Dr Benway, MPhil, Cartomancer. You must be reading ADH, Omego369, Wooter or perhaps re-reading some of your own.


You just made my day peacebeuponme!!

RAmen!

700. 'Irrational Atheist' trounces God-deniers

Comment #118045 by annabanana on January 30, 2008 at 9:14 am

I thought that there was a possibility that nordicthunder was trying to be ironic, but judging by the poor grammar and unsupported assertions, I thought it to be accidental. Additionally, I supported my argument for judging this book by its cover and no where in my argument did I ever say that judging a book by its cover is appropriate in all instances.

Also, thanks al-rawandi!

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