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651. Richard Dawkins and Bill Maher

Comment #160847 by Diacanu on April 14, 2008 at 1:25 pm

*Sees FightingFalcon is still shoveling his ideology*

*Sighs*

I'm so done with political/economic isms.

It took me quite a few years, but I finally figured out some time ago that isms don't work.
They're all a flop.
All of em.

Isms don't work.
But it's okay that isms don't work.
Isms shouldn't work for us.
We work for us.
Isms don't work, people do.

It'd be an awful world if isms worked on their own, it'd mean we'd finally made a machine to control us like the Matrix.

So, I don't have any faith in isms.
But I have faith in people.

I mean, take a really obviously shitty ism like Soviet Communism.
In the waning days of that carwreck, the only thing holding that dried up dog turd together was desperate and pitiful human will.
And if human will can make that tangled mess chug along one last mile on fumes, what else can human beings do?

And here's where I get really blasphemous and un-patriotic.
I happen to think the Capitalist system is likewise held together with spit, bailing wire, and human willpower.

Come on, we all know it in our deepest intuition.

Take it back to first principles.
I give you a green piece of paper, you give me a deluxe sized candy bar.
You take my green piece of paper, and get yourself some beef jerky.
The beef jerky man takes the paper, and gets a condom to bang his old lady.

Now, if it stayed that basic and pure, it'd just be ducky.
But we know it doesn't.
People are greedy, and selfish, and want more, more, more.
Not everybody.
Just enough.
Just enought to really fuck things up.
And that just enough group gauge prices, cook their books, insider trade, give and take graft, and outright steal their skim.
And we know all this, and accept it as such a gloomy inevitability, it's part of the system.
But, we just assume the economists have a magic equation that compensates for all the glitches in the big JPG, and cleans up the image.
But, they really don't.
They're pulling money out of thin air.
They're shoveling bullshit with all their hearts.
They're holding the system together with a sticky film of bullshit like the Soviets did.
But that's okay.

Because that's the thing.
It's okay that Capitalism doesn't work.
It's just the pile of bullshit that serves us just a little bit better than Communism.
But, that's not saying much.
But, that's okay, it doesn't have to be much.

What I'm saying with all of the above, is as survival organisms, we'll muddle through with whatever system we're under.
That's what we do.
I find that beautiful.

And given all of the above, I can't find it in me anymore to cling to any particular ism.
But given that, I also am not superstitiously afraid of any particular ism.
"Oh, we can't do THAT, that's *gasp* Socialist, and will destroy us all!!".
Bullshit.
Isms don't destroy.
People do.
And the ones who do are typically dogmatic towards an ism.

Me, I'm for Lego-blocking together whatever works.
And when it stops working, pluck off and throw out a Lego, and stick another one on.
Whatever works.
Hell, that's the very core essence of evolution.

Clinging to isms hinders evolution.
We know this in our hearts, that's why we're all here trying to chip away at the religious isms.
They've calcified, and no longer serve us.
They're dried up dog turds.
We need fresh manure to grow.

Well, I have no planned ending for this rant, so I open the floor to questions.

652. Richard Dawkins and Bill Maher

Comment #160212 by Diacanu on April 13, 2008 at 8:03 pm

FightingFalcon-


I won't lie - her works have influenced me


There, was that so hard?
:)

653. Richard Dawkins and Bill Maher

Comment #160204 by Diacanu on April 13, 2008 at 7:54 pm

FightingFalcon-


Nice try though.


Oh please, this shit...


I believe in true Capitalism - the only objectively moral philosophy in the world. People reject Capitalism because it represents personal responsibility and hard work; two ideas that many people are anathema to. It's the only system that doesn't discriminate, where you get out whatever you put in. Far too many people would trade safety and security for the meat grinder that is Capitalism.


...is almost cut-and-pasted out of her writings.

654. Richard Dawkins and Bill Maher

Comment #160195 by Diacanu on April 13, 2008 at 7:46 pm

FightingFalcon-


I really find comments like these pretty hysterical,


A Randroid with a sense of humor?
I don't bump into them often.
Maybe twice, or thrice.

A Randroid who can't help but brag about something?
That I find in abundance.
:P

655. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #160192 by Diacanu on April 13, 2008 at 7:42 pm

And with that, he turned back into Ka-Ka Shovel.

656. Richard Dawkins and Bill Maher

Comment #160189 by Diacanu on April 13, 2008 at 7:38 pm

Yeah, the rhetoric all sounds so lofty.

Yet every single fucking time, it mutates into "I am the Ubermensch, now stand aside as I urinate on this homeless person".

657. The Art of Creating Controversy Where None Existed

Comment #160185 by Diacanu on April 13, 2008 at 7:35 pm

Teratornis-

I agree with the poster in another thread who said to you, and I paraphrase here "go write a fucking book about peak oil, and stop spamming every thread with novel sized posts about it".

658. Richard Dawkins and Bill Maher

Comment #160179 by Diacanu on April 13, 2008 at 7:20 pm

Radesq-

It's all about the "liberty", to be a predator.

Then, the predators kick and scream like little girls when there's even an imaginary threat to that "liberty".

Seen it all before, superhumanly bored with it now.

659. A New Flea

Comment #160176 by Diacanu on April 13, 2008 at 7:14 pm

I've pointed it out for the last 3 of these, but there's also "Chance or Purpose? Creation, Evolution and a Rational Faith".

http://www.amazon.com/Chance-Purpose-Creation-Evolution-Rational/dp/1586172123

660. Richard Dawkins and Bill Maher

Comment #160169 by Diacanu on April 13, 2008 at 6:54 pm

Goldy-


Methinks you're confusing Austrians and Germans with Prussians.


Ah, right, right.

It was the Prussian army model that made the English/American school system such a soul-crushing drone factory after all.

661. Richard Dawkins and Bill Maher

Comment #160163 by Diacanu on April 13, 2008 at 6:46 pm

FightingFalcon-


This coming from a person who objects to everything German and Austrian simply because of a 13-year part of their history...


No, not "simply", nor just that 13 year chunk.

I object to anything predatory and authoritarian, and those 2 countries have exported more than their fair share of those things.

Except the Volkswagon beetle.
That almost makes up for it all.
Great little car.

662. Richard Dawkins and Bill Maher

Comment #160160 by Diacanu on April 13, 2008 at 6:39 pm

Stepen Maxwell-

Ah, calm down.

The economy is fake anyway.

We've been floating on a big cloud of nothing for at least 30 years.

If all the oil evaporated tommorrow, there'd be some running around in circles and hair pulling for a few months, but the talking heads would gradually calm the public down, and lie our way back to fake consumer confidence that would become real, and poof, money out of nowhere again.

Then the electric cars will roll out of the showrooms.
Back to business.

All a big game.
Just a big fucking play they put on.
Stand back and MST3K it.
Taking it serious will just give ya ulcers.

663. Richard Dawkins and Bill Maher

Comment #160149 by Diacanu on April 13, 2008 at 6:12 pm

FightingFalcon-


I honestly am at a loss of words at how to respond


If only that were so.


Hey - you're catching on! Government is evil, albeit a necessary one. It's sole reason for existence is...


Yeah, yeah, heard it all before.
For YEARS.
I know it stem to stern.
Spare me, please.

664. A New Flea

Comment #160147 by Diacanu on April 13, 2008 at 6:04 pm

Geez, these guys really must hate trees.

665. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #160028 by Diacanu on April 13, 2008 at 2:31 pm

Peacebeaponme-


I applaude your supreme ability to chase-cut, but must you always be so monochromatic?


Monochromatic would be if my statement were a conclusion rather than an inquiry.

666. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #160016 by Diacanu on April 13, 2008 at 2:21 pm

*sigh*

So we're being nice to Ka-Ka Shovel now?

I never get the memo.

667. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #160003 by Diacanu on April 13, 2008 at 2:02 pm

Good thing there's no Hell, cuz I'd definately be going there for lampooning schizophrenia in post 1160.
:P

668. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #159999 by Diacanu on April 13, 2008 at 1:56 pm

Kardashovel-


But I do believe in an objective truth,


Well, keep tilting at that windmill.
At least YOU'LL think it's a giant, and that's all that matters, right, Ka-Ka Shovel?

669. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #159988 by Diacanu on April 13, 2008 at 1:48 pm

So, Ka-Ka Shovel, heard any voices lately?

Hisswiswiswissss...uuuseless...woorthless...all laughing at you...aaaall against you...kill them all...use the axe...hissswisswiswissssss.....hahahahahaaa...hssss...

670. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #159981 by Diacanu on April 13, 2008 at 1:43 pm

Kardashovel-


Maybe you are confusing him with some of His misguided "followers".


Like David and yourself?
:P

671. The Art of Creating Controversy Where None Existed

Comment #159966 by Diacanu on April 13, 2008 at 1:30 pm

will young-


The pursuit of truth is amoral. It is what we do with knowledge that needs moral consideration.


Beat ya to it.
:P

672. Richard Dawkins and Bill Maher

Comment #159882 by Diacanu on April 13, 2008 at 10:31 am

Quezcatol-

I've flagged your ass as a troll for being a jackass, and for impersonaiting another poster.

673. The Art of Creating Controversy Where None Existed

Comment #159873 by Diacanu on April 13, 2008 at 9:55 am

yussel123-


Would a scientist, Dawkins for example, ever support an effort to halt scientific research in a given area because of the terrible consequences that would follow?


Well, I'm not a scientist, but I don't think they should.

Science is the pursuit of knowledge, and to deny knowledge for any reason, especially a scare-mongered one is antithetical to everything I consider to be the meaning of being human, and therefore life itself.

Knowledge is just that.
What people do with it is another matter.

To begin to fear that, you may as well go crawl back into the caves.

674. Richard Dawkins and Bill Maher

Comment #159867 by Diacanu on April 13, 2008 at 9:29 am

FightingFalcon-


I will never agree to a company ever having a societal responsibility.


And that's where we part.
No man is an island.

Humans are social animals, and to fight against that is the definition of sociopathy.

As for government, when you start with the philosophy that government can do nothing but evil, government is never going to work.

675. Richard Dawkins and Bill Maher

Comment #159859 by Diacanu on April 13, 2008 at 9:19 am

FightingFalcon-


They have no responsibility toward anyone or anything other than to make money.


While that may be pragmaticly true in the larger sense, and I'm not advocating state control of production, when people embrace that as a personal philosopy, one shouldn't be shocked when they behave like sociopaths.


The Austrian School of Economics makes so much sense to me...


Whip-a-dee-doo.

Sorry, I'm not into many Austrian/German things.
Something in the water over there, I dunno, they had a propensity for militaristic cookie cutter robots in a row stuff long before it went too far and became Nazis.

I'm instantly distrustful of anything that came out of that mindset.

676. Richard Dawkins and Bill Maher

Comment #159674 by Diacanu on April 12, 2008 at 7:07 pm

Teratornis-

Ah, there you go again scaremongering about peak oil.


I keep telling you, it's no problem, my neutrino-trapping arrays are ready to roll.

677. Expelled Overview

Comment #159666 by Diacanu on April 12, 2008 at 6:45 pm

C = cookie.

That's good enough for me!!

678. Richard Dawkins and Bill Maher

Comment #159660 by Diacanu on April 12, 2008 at 6:28 pm

I like the "get the government off my back", part of libertarianism, but I hate the blind faith in corporations.

I don't trust corporations any more than I do the government.

Both are out to scarf up all the money, and both want to control your mind.

679. Richard Dawkins and Bill Maher

Comment #159654 by Diacanu on April 12, 2008 at 5:41 pm

clearmind-

You already posted that trash in another thread.

I'm flagging your ass.

680. Expelled Overview

Comment #159650 by Diacanu on April 12, 2008 at 5:33 pm

Clearmind-

Climb down off the cross, we need the wood.

P.S.
Fuck.

681. Richard Dawkins and Bill Maher

Comment #159648 by Diacanu on April 12, 2008 at 5:29 pm

Julius Morche-


To me, a Catholic mass is a splendid synthesis of many branches of the arts, including architecture, drama, music, and literature.


Well, then you're welcome to it.

To me, the most mundane television program, or the most pedrestianly written comic book interest me more than the drab medieval drone-fest that is a Catholic mass.

Tradition doesn't automatically equal good.
And tradition for its own sake, as its own entity is stagnation to me.

We've evolved, and have taken it for granted.
Shit, give me a stack of Kubric films over the fucking Bible.
Or, Lord Of The Rings.
Fuck, Nightmare On Elm Street Part 3 inspires me more than religion.

682. Richard Dawkins and Bill Maher

Comment #159551 by Diacanu on April 12, 2008 at 1:21 pm

All the Bill Maher haters seriosuly need to pull the broomstick out, and let out the gas.

683. Discussion between Richard Dawkins and Paula Kirby

Comment #159526 by Diacanu on April 12, 2008 at 12:06 pm

Ah, there, saw the rest of it, glad I did, there was some really good stuff after the Scottish moron after all.

Excellent talk.
Surpassed expectations.

Heh, yeah, stuff like this gives me the rush I used to get as a kid from a blockbuster movie, boy, am I a freaking nerd.

684. Discussion between Richard Dawkins and Paula Kirby

Comment #159252 by Diacanu on April 11, 2008 at 6:37 pm

Ahh, there, saw the rest of it from part 5 onward.
:D

Excellent!!

Okay, I bailed out after part 10 after the dumbass old Scottish dude said the stupid crap about prophesy.

Did I miss anything spectacular in parts 11-12?

685. Cult leader Pyotr Kuznetsov tries suicide after realising he was wrong about doomsday

Comment #159183 by Diacanu on April 11, 2008 at 2:42 pm

Prankster-

Lol, yeah, y'got me.
His rant was formost on my mind from the instant I heard of this story.

That, and I'm trying to titty-twist mikejswalker one last time.
B)

686. Cult leader Pyotr Kuznetsov tries suicide after realising he was wrong about doomsday

Comment #159174 by Diacanu on April 11, 2008 at 2:32 pm

Anyway, it's still funny that this asshole hit himself over the head with a log.
Dumbass.
Fuck him.

And just imagine if he'd died, and his fevered ego was no longer an infection to our collective subconscious.

Admit it, a weight would lift off your fucking mind.
There really is a price we pay, a psychic toll on all of us that these people fucking exist.

Having another moron gone? Good!

Deny it all you want, you hear one of these assholes go, you feel just like I do.
A pressure releases off your fucking (for lack of a better word) soul.

Air tastes fresher, colors get brighter, all your muscles loosen, your pours open up, your eurethra pops open to taste the sunshine, a tingle runs up your spine, birds cheep, a fresh spring breaze blows through you, and you rub yourself all over and go "ohhhhh heee's goooooone!!! :D".

687. Inadequate, private and late apology with grotesquely inadequate excuse

Comment #159166 by Diacanu on April 11, 2008 at 2:21 pm

hungarianelephant-


Are we really so thin-skinned that we can't take that,


Oh, I can take it.
Nothing that comes out of a christian's pie-hole shocks me anymore.

It's just her dancing the edge of goose stepping, and the out anti-atheists bigots get because we're one of the few groups left it's okay to irrationally despise.

That's the facet that gets under my skin.

688. Inadequate, private and late apology with grotesquely inadequate excuse

Comment #159151 by Diacanu on April 11, 2008 at 1:58 pm

Madphatcat-

Agreed all the way, but I doubt we're gonna get one from her.

689. Inadequate, private and late apology with grotesquely inadequate excuse

Comment #159132 by Diacanu on April 11, 2008 at 1:27 pm

Steve Zara-


I think that is the way things have to be.


Grudgingly agreed.

690. Inadequate, private and late apology with grotesquely inadequate excuse

Comment #159125 by Diacanu on April 11, 2008 at 1:15 pm

BFKate-


I do believe the freedom has to be absolute to have any value.


Quaint notion, but your rights end where someone else's begin.
She used her bullying yap to stifle this guy's freedom of speech.

691. Inadequate, private and late apology with grotesquely inadequate excuse

Comment #159117 by Diacanu on April 11, 2008 at 1:07 pm

Bonzai-


I think it should be over.


Until the next time her and her buddies wanna shovel public funds into the church's coffers.

692. Inadequate, private and late apology with grotesquely inadequate excuse

Comment #159115 by Diacanu on April 11, 2008 at 1:03 pm

brian_d_w


She is an elected official, this is a privilege not a right. She is in office to represent the will of the people. If she is found to be out of line, it is the right of her constituents to ask her to resign, or force her out. She clearly does not respect or understand the concept of secular government, therefor she has no role in one.


Exactly.
She can be an atheist hating twat in her private life all she wants, but on public time, and the public dime, she has to represent everyone.

693. Inadequate, private and late apology with grotesquely inadequate excuse

Comment #159113 by Diacanu on April 11, 2008 at 12:58 pm

BFKate-


This is mixing up action and opinion again.


See post 47.

694. Inadequate, private and late apology with grotesquely inadequate excuse

Comment #159109 by Diacanu on April 11, 2008 at 12:54 pm

Bonzai-


I don't think your comparison of pedophilia holds up.


I think it's dead-on.

A pedophile is a pedophile wether they're a practicing one or not.

If a teacher gets caught with a stack of kiddy-porn, and a bunch of NAMBLA literature, they fire his ass.
They don't wait for him to touch a kid, he's just gone.

695. Inadequate, private and late apology with grotesquely inadequate excuse

Comment #159108 by Diacanu on April 11, 2008 at 12:49 pm

Bonzai-

That's why I said she TRIED to.

I don't want bungholes like this to even try.

If the crowd, and the other legislators had been on her side, she would've gotten him thrown out.

And if there'd been no internet, we wouldn't have heard of this.

And I'm sure this sort of thing went down before the net.
Damn sure the mainstream media wouldn't have been sympathetic.
Plus, no blood or sex.

Fuck it, you gotta nip this shit in the bud.

696. Inadequate, private and late apology with grotesquely inadequate excuse

Comment #159095 by Diacanu on April 11, 2008 at 12:34 pm

BFKate-


I think calling for Ms Davis' resignation for expressing an opinion is a punishment and a type of ban, as well as a form of censorship.


It wasn't just an opinion.
Wake up.
Get on the same page, the one where the actual discussion is taking place, would you?

And freedom of speech isn't a "get out of everything", card.
She tried to fuck with someone's rights.
You can't turn around and snivel that her right to fuck with someone's rights are being fucked with if she's removed from the office that allows her to do so.

It'd be like whining that a teacher getting fired for being a pedophile is intolerance.

Sorry, pedophiles ought not be teachers, and fascists ought not be in public office in a democracy.

697. Inadequate, private and late apology with grotesquely inadequate excuse

Comment #159069 by Diacanu on April 11, 2008 at 12:07 pm

BFKate-


that's censorship.


Like how she censored the atheist dude?


If someone is bad at their job


Like telling someone they have no right to speak, and be part of the process in a fucking democracy?

Blow it out your ass, lady.

698. Inadequate, private and late apology with grotesquely inadequate excuse

Comment #159067 by Diacanu on April 11, 2008 at 12:03 pm

movingshadow-


...her unconstitutional ideas...


That's it right there.

She can hate atheists in the privacy of her home all fucking day, I don't give a shit, but once she tries to shut some one up, and throw them out, and say they have no right to be there, well, that's dangerous to democracy, and to fuck with her.

It's the same tired old "waaa! You're intolerant if you don't tolerate my intolerance!", argument.

Blow it out your ass, bigots.
It ain't gonna fly.
Try another one.

699. Inadequate, private and late apology with grotesquely inadequate excuse

Comment #159064 by Diacanu on April 11, 2008 at 11:54 am

BFKate-

Well if the opinions of a politician don't matter to their performance, let's stop having Presidential debates.

And I seem to recall Strom Thurmond getting elected decades ago BECAUSE of his bigotry.

As for people being offended having no right to demand a person resign, how far would you go with that?
How nasty a thing can these assholes say?
How nasty a thing can they believe?
What, we won't vote for David Duke, cuz we know he was a fucking Klansman, but if he managed to keep it in the closet, and THEN start spouting a stream of hate speeches once elected "oh well, shut up and wait for the next election cycle"??

Wow, that's...something...

700. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #158753 by Diacanu on April 11, 2008 at 2:30 am

Goldy-


there is no Jesus, or if there was, Paul is who you follow anyway,


Yep, that's how they reconcile re-activating the old testament homophobia and misogyny.

They're not christians, they're Paulists.

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