701. Georgia gets rain, but it may not help

Comment #89198 by Philip1978 on November 20, 2007 at 2:01 am

Tyler Durden
You went about it all wrong, according to Peter Kay, comedian, you don't pray for bikes, you go steal them then pray for forgiveness afterwards! :)

Philip

702. For the glory of God

Comment #89196 by Philip1978 on November 20, 2007 at 1:57 am

kraut

Wow, thats some point of view you have there! I mean that in a friendly way I promise I am not going to jump on your back.

I think your arguments do carry a bit of weight here and there, but surely the accumulation of wealth and power is dominated and motivated by excessive religious belief?

You mention the crusades- didn't Pope Urban III (I think it was him, correct me if I am wrong) specifically rally people together under Christianity to go wipe out the Muslims out of the "Holy Land"? Yes, I guess the main intention of some of the supposedly "Christian" lads who went over there did so primarily to kill, rape, pillage and grab land but did so under the impression that they were doing it all in God's name - no matter how perverse their actions. I have heard that people were taken out of prisons and given full pardons if they went out and killed Muslims. The actions of the Vatican and all the nations who joined in were disgusting- of course they were motivated by wealth and land grabbing etc. But surely one of the primary reasons they went over there was to liberate the "Holy" land from people who didn't worship their God?

I think you are right in some ways, people like Bush are after oil etc and the art of warfare is getting to a staggeringly complex level. But think about the reasons why they go to war in the first place. Muslim extremists are only after one thing - convert the world to Islam or kill those who dont want to. How do you do that? I seems to me like Gorilla Warfare- Use your enemies weapons and resources against them, so consider how easy it would be for them to accumulate the right amount of cash to continue their religious war. Educate people, make them doctors, lawyers - high paid professions and then let them lose on a bus or drive a Range Rover into an aiport, fly a plane into a building - its easily done and its not too expensive if you are using the enemies tools.

I almost think Bush is on his own religious crusade - mask it all he likes with noise about "Terror", he is a Christian and he wants to have the dominating religion - I could be hideously wrong here and I dont mind admitting it but all the oil, space programs etc do cost money and do accumulate wealth but consider the one motivational ideology that keeps him going- God, apparently, is telling him to do it.

I dont doubt there is a lot of truth in what you say but I still reckon religion is a great and probably a primary motivator

This is open for discussion of course, just my reading of the situation, , what do you others think, am I barmy? :) (Silly question really hehehhe!)

Philip

703. For the glory of God

Comment #88813 by Philip1978 on November 19, 2007 at 2:57 am

Its ok guys, I am back!
Goldy and Quetz, fear not, MutantXPhilip1978 has promised me not to appear again unless he is posting to David Robertson!
Goldy, dont stop drinking Tea, how else do you think I came back to (ab)normal?

MutantXPhilip1978 was created after the login errors were happening, must have been the SQL Radiation or something!

Cheers!

Philip

704. Malaysia firm's 'Muslim car' plan

Comment #87980 by Philip1978 on November 14, 2007 at 1:11 am

Isn't this car abuse? Labelling a car a Muslim car is like calling it a Marxist car or something of the equivalent and should not be encouraged. Instead I insist that this car be a car of Muslim manufacturers! :)

Philip

705. Georgia plans service to pray for rain

Comment #87814 by Philip1978 on November 13, 2007 at 8:19 am

Starship_Deviant
I'm trying...honest, but its raining here in Farnborough too now.

Do or Do Not there is no try! :)

See look, God has got you sacrificing goats in a G String, its too cold for that stuff mate, at least put a coat on!

Curry goooood!

Philip

706. Malaysia firm's 'Muslim car' plan

Comment #87796 by Philip1978 on November 13, 2007 at 6:54 am

Fedler
Remember that car would have to have an immobiliser fitted in so the driver cannot set off without genuflecting. Plus seats which are impossible to commit sin in as per instructions of Darth himself! :)
Philip

707. Malaysia firm's 'Muslim car' plan

Comment #87788 by Philip1978 on November 13, 2007 at 6:06 am

Looks like people are having all sorts of car trouble...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7091904.stm

What a stupid bugger!

Philip

708. The Transcendental Argument for God

Comment #87752 by Philip1978 on November 13, 2007 at 3:18 am

"The idea that one needs evidence for all claims is wrong"

You have six toes, nine eyes, your son is gay and your wife is sleeping with another man, I know this cos Zeus told me.

I take it you are not going to dispute this and I can carry on KNOWING all that?

Philip

709. Georgia plans service to pray for rain

Comment #87743 by Philip1978 on November 13, 2007 at 2:39 am

Starship_Deviant

Hurry up with the prayers/rain dance old chap, its still raining in Maidenhead! Or is your God a non interventionist in Maidenhead?

Philip

710. Malaysia firm's 'Muslim car' plan

Comment #87742 by Philip1978 on November 13, 2007 at 2:37 am

Sharrow

I think it would be rather funny when the voice on it says "After the next Bomb going off you are going to Paradise/Hell!"

711. These preachers of hate must be exposed

Comment #87724 by Philip1978 on November 13, 2007 at 1:18 am

Goldy

I guess it does work both ways, people like that Muslim Leader are no better than the Government in stopping the rising hatred in the Muslim communities. Nothing is being done to stop it and everything is being done to encourage it, bloody ridiculous!

Philip

712. These preachers of hate must be exposed

Comment #87718 by Philip1978 on November 13, 2007 at 12:58 am

Ok, I sent this out on the 15th of August, its now the 13th of November and I got a reply at last!

This is in reference to 47. Comment #63590 by Philip1978

I promised to inform you all if anything happened and now I got official Theresa May, House of Commons paper!!

Dear Mr Priestley

Thank you for your email dated the 15th of August about the decision by the West Midlands Police Force to refer Channel 4 to OFCOM in relation to its Dispatches programme "Undercover Mosque". Please accept my apologies for the lengthy delay in replying

I believe the programme illustrated the separatist political ideology preached by extremists in Britain - an ideology which deliberately targets the moderate mainstream Muslim majority, and seeks to convert vulnerable young Muslims in particular to separatism and extremism.

You may be aware that at least some of the separatists shown on the programme were offered the right of reply, and that moderate Muslims, some of whom work in partnership with the Government, were shown on the programme expressing their alarm about the ideology in question.

Paul Goodman MP, Shadow Communities Minister, has said that this decision raises serious questions about media freedom in Britain, and about whether public authorities tasked with upholding the rule of law are now, as a matter of policy, giving special assistance to those who seek to undermine the rule of law, and the pluralist, liberal, democratic culture who both underpins it and guarantees community cohesion.

He is continuing to question the Government, but, on the evidence available, it's hard to avoid the conclusion that this is a politically motivated referral, driven by mistaken belief that the best mean of deal with separatist extremists is to appease them
Once again, thank you for taking the time to write to me

yours sincerely

THE RT HON THERESA MAY MP



I will write to her to thank her, I was not expecting a reply, I think I like most of what she said, esp agreeing that the Government is appeasing extremists rather than applying the law of the land. What does everyone else think?

Philip

713. The good that comes from belief

Comment #87353 by Philip1978 on November 12, 2007 at 12:46 am

Diacanu
You write it I will read it! I always enjoy reading your posts, I think you have a very direct and informed viewpoint that does you great credit.

This article is drivel to the point of absurdity, what the hell is this?

"Some may see religion as a tired old superstition, but it does produce our most ethical and caring young adults — believe it or not"


That same tired and arrogant argument of "I believe in God so that makes my caring for people that much better than those amoral naughty atheists, ohh smug me!"

No good can come from thinking like this, only blind stupidity and cruelty to the credulous. Filling people's heads with lies like this is dangerous, once people start relying on the supernatural for moral guidance, the torturous effects of blaming themselves for not adhering to the rules imposed on them is not going to help one bit. You have to care for somebody because you mean it, not imagine it.

Philip

714. Losing faith in Quebec

Comment #86320 by Philip1978 on November 9, 2007 at 1:43 am

Glooscap???????????????????????????????????

What the hell is going on in this world?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glooscap
Look at the picture, that looks freeeeeeeeeky! Thats a zombie, who would worship a zombie...hang on... people pray to that Jesus chap...

715. Mother dies after refusing blood

Comment #86122 by Philip1978 on November 8, 2007 at 7:49 am

Steve,

Well, my fingers are a bit sore from shouting like that but yes, I do feel so much better! :)

Philip

716. Richard Dawkins at AAI 07

Comment #86100 by Philip1978 on November 8, 2007 at 6:27 am

ADH you big wimp, can't take a good discussion you big sissy! :) Only kidding, I hope you get better- if its man flu, be very careful not to over-do it!!

I'll be waiting if you ever come back, I know I didn't participate in this part of the discussion but know that you will finally meet your match, best have your best debating trousers on if you do!! hehehehe :)

I already had sandwiches, carcass would be too much right now...

Philip

717. The New Atheism rocks

Comment #86083 by Philip1978 on November 8, 2007 at 5:06 am

Dr Benway
I am so proud of you, that ad goes a long way to proving Atheism rocks- Muse are a great band!!

Russell, thank you for that, I can honestly say its a pleasure reading your work, keep it going and I will keep reading!

I took the time to look at all my previous comments and I have noticed I mention tea a lot, so in keeping with tradition, I think I need more Tea, tally ho!

Philip

718. Mother dies after refusing blood

Comment #86077 by Philip1978 on November 8, 2007 at 4:43 am

Irate
"Come on, Philip, don't hold back. Tell us what you really think."

Ok old friend, just for you, this time I wont hold back

I have a very strong dislike of this kind of behaviour!
:)

Philip

719. Debate between Christopher Hitchens and Dinesh D'Souza

Comment #86062 by Philip1978 on November 8, 2007 at 3:28 am

clearthinker

D'Souza is not a good debater unless you call shrill frantic ranting using obfuscation as a tool to make him look good in the eyes of the religious. He likes to makes stuff up, like the measuring of the speed of light being wrong and makes it sound like he actually knows what he is talking about. If he actually backed up any of his ridiculous assertions I would have more respect for him as a debater but he just seems to claim his knowledge is correct and expect people to buy his sarcasm and lies.

Philip

720. Same Flea, Different Name?

Comment #86051 by Philip1978 on November 8, 2007 at 1:36 am

ksskidude

You are holding you own on that forum, I just love that Sammy chap - Evolution hasn't been proved yet- hilarious! Plus I love the others who are chanting "But Jesus did this that and the other- that's why we have morality and ksskidude is going off to kill us all cos he is being guided by satan!"

I think you should write something like "Yes, and thanks to Satan, I know where you all live..."

Have fun on there and keep up the good work!

Philip

721. Christopher Hitchens at AAI 07

Comment #86047 by Philip1978 on November 8, 2007 at 1:05 am

DG
Whats this?

"Also, contrary to what most people think, there is no reason to believe that consciousness itself is produced by the brain"

Hitchens asked this question to McGrath and I think I might ask you it, what are you doing in a job like yours when you seem to claim this access to such an abundance of knowledge way beyond the scope of us lesser mortals? I find that statement just utterly amazing!

That spits in the face of some of the cleverest brain specialists on this earth, it really does! Do you really have access to some superior knowledge that some of the finest people who have actually done some research on this and are still working on it because they want to be sure and then you come along and say "I got it chaps, its MY God!" No evidence, no research just your bold statement that its true.

Are you really willing to put this to the test? Then I challenge you to write a peer reviewed thesis on your findings and see how far that stands up. I am not wanting to sound rude here but I really find your wild assertions about things, which I don't think you really know about, quite disturbing.

It doesn't help your argument in anyway at all simply asserting that its all to do with my "Naturalist Worldview" and your "Theistic Worldview " being any better, its about backing up your arguments properly. I don't use the highly improbable to argue with, I may wiffle too much and use words like wiffle, but I hope I can base what I say on something more workable and less complex than a God.

But we have been through all this already, its tiring and I need some Tea, good luck with the Thesis!

Philip

722. Fox News Discussion on 'The Golden Compass'

Comment #86042 by Philip1978 on November 8, 2007 at 12:32 am

Quetz

"Only a BIT Stalin? What's that mean then? Should we grow moustaches, start speaking in Russian accents?"

Of course! :) I mentioned further down about misconstruing Sam Harris's "its ok to kill people" from The End Of Faith" and I felt that since Stalin's dead and this is the 21st Century, kids who have been turned Atheist by the movie inspired by Philip Pullman's book would need a different role model! Since the Catholics hate "The New Atheists" so much I felt Sam, with his Musketeer status was a better man for the job.

Philip

723. Fox News Discussion on 'The Golden Compass'

Comment #85800 by Philip1978 on November 7, 2007 at 6:19 am

I think I have had an idea as to why religites get completely huffy about stuff like this, correct me if I am wrong, daft or both!

Religites fear us atheists cos apparently since our moral outlook isnt from a god, so we naturally are out to shoot, rape or go a bit Stalin on a full time basis, cos heck, no morals = no consequences.

So kids see this movie, by some amazing and highly improbable and dramatic turn of events they become atheists due to that naughty Pullman chap. There you have a whole generation of complete amoral criminals taking over the world- taking up smoking and drinking like Hitchens, writing more naughty books like Pullman, justifying killing people cos Sam Harris said so or worst of all TEACH EVOLUTION LIKE DAWKINS!!!

So they desperately fart about like monkey boy in this video or Bill O Reilly in abject fear of kids not growing up to be as stupid and deluded as them!!


Hows that for a theory?

Philip

724. Fox News Discussion on 'The Golden Compass'

Comment #85727 by Philip1978 on November 7, 2007 at 12:38 am

Sorry, just picked myself off the floor from laughing really hard!

My goodness, the Catholic Church is so hypocritical and arrogant to the core plus if that idiot representing them on the Fox news is anything to go by, they are looking scared as well!

I am not going to be so stupid as to say that is completely true after seeing one interview but I hope this trend continues.

I love the way that guy is saying "but they are targeting 11 year olds"! Er hang on matey, don't the Catholic church start proper indoctrination on babies dunking their heads in water and spouting Latin crap?

What is all this fuss about? Its just a book, a bloody good book mind you, have just started reading it, but all in all, as Fanusi Khiyal rightly said, people can enjoy books with religious characters as well as non religious ones. So what if God is attacked in this, dont read it, dont watch it, but don't dare assume that just because the Catholic church doesn't like it means other people can't make their own minds...oh no wait, religion wont allow for that - Freedom of speech as long as God allows it and since God is not around to fight his corner, the Catholic Church can make it all up!

Philip

725. Mother dies after refusing blood

Comment #85538 by Philip1978 on November 6, 2007 at 5:47 am

Sorry if the language offends, I can't be arsed to explain this any differently :)

What crazy fucked up idiot made this shit up?

I get feeling they prefer to suffer, the more the better, so much to the point where they make up shit as from that watchtower bollocks or the pope's idiots telling credulous people that condoms are the cause of AIDS

I feel so helpless about it all too because there is no way of communicating to them the horrors they inflict on themselves. I am so sodding lucky to be here, I had double pneumonia and asthma when I was about 18 months old, like Dan Dennet, I thank goodness that I am here - I wouldn't be if it hadnt been for the doctors, nurses, my parents, the equipment and the drugs etc
I would like to think that all the effort put in to keep me going was not wasted, that it meant I could go a bit longer, enjoy life more - shit I got be 29 years old, couldn't ask for more, I really couldn't Well, a few more decades would do nicely hehehe :). To see these people so needlessly fucking it all up by clinging on to such pathetic things just so their "faith" doesn't suffer- its just so wrong in my eyes.

Steve you are completely right, it is bat shit crazy!

Philip

726. Jesus Camp: A scary movie that should frighten us all

Comment #85473 by Philip1978 on November 6, 2007 at 1:35 am

steveroot
That Landover Baptist Church thing...

Please tell me that is not real, that has to be joke surely...???

I haven't seen a smiley face...it can't be Poe's law!!
:)
Philip

727. Mother dies after refusing blood

Comment #85463 by Philip1978 on November 6, 2007 at 1:08 am

I am disgusted by this behaviour and cannot describe my horror at how someone could be so stupid with their lives.

22 years old for crying out loud what is wrong with people? I am so sad for those poor kids, this breaks my heart it really does. What kind of parent wants to die needlessly when the kids need them? What kind of family literally forbids doctors to save lives?

Why do hospitals put up with it? Why can't they simply forbid the family from interfering, offer proper medical advice to the patient and then save them, this dying is so needless. Who cares what their beliefs are, people should not be allowed to die in these circumstances.

Sorry for the rant,

Philip

728. Response to Dinesh D'Souza op-ed

Comment #85457 by Philip1978 on November 6, 2007 at 12:44 am

Yikes, I leave you guys alone for 24 hours and look what happens!

Stop it you crazy kids, this article was supposed to raise awareness of just how mind bogglingly and irretrievably nasty D'Souza is! The man is the nastiest piece of work I have ever had the misfortune of reading, he is plain evil. Look, he even drove the lovely Corylus to remove her eyes, damn him and his trousers!!

I loved this article, I really did and kudos to Kelly for writing it considering her schedule is as hectic as Brian says it is.

Stop taking things to pieces that shouldn't be, focus on what needs to be attacked, if some feel they could do a better job, go on then, add your arguments to the debate but don't criticise those who are arguing with you in such minute detail! So what if Kelly uses language and syntax that you wouldn't, at least she is doing something
worthwhile.

Just be thankful I didnt write it, then you really would be howling with grief and more eyes may be lost! :)

Philip

729. I didn't know the FLEA CIRCUS was back in town!

Comment #85132 by Philip1978 on November 5, 2007 at 4:34 am

"Of course we could be the subject of a wind up.."

Hmm, I am in two minds as to whether Dr B is male or female, I distinctly remember the time on the Westboro Baptists thread where he/she made suggestive comments about Wee Flea's mum and the aforementioned "Perfect Cock"...

I obviously congratulate Dr B for provoking such discussion, this shows the workings of a brilliant mind! :)

Philip

730. You big, fat pile of bacteria

Comment #85098 by Philip1978 on November 5, 2007 at 1:19 am

LDmiller

I am an ex student, who on occasion have had to subject myself of using public lavatories in English pubs etc The combination of these two things means that there is a greater chance that I cannot be killed by conventional weapons. (I haven't reached the Keith Richards levels of being completely indestructible, I can't believe he still lives and I have no intentions of ever copying his antics!)

Suffice to say, I think there is a good chance I will be partying with the cockroaches come Armageddon! :)

Philip

731. I didn't know the FLEA CIRCUS was back in town!

Comment #85089 by Philip1978 on November 5, 2007 at 12:05 am

Doctor B!
Maaarvelous, I see you survived the hospital food!

Bravo, great to have you back!

Philip

732. You big, fat pile of bacteria

Comment #84877 by Philip1978 on November 4, 2007 at 2:13 am

I love this article! :)

mandrellian, I totally agree with you, I cant stand those stupid lets become Howard Hughes adverts either.

It reminds me of one of my uni housemates, she cleaned and anti- bacterialised everything and funnily enough she was the one who used to suffer more colds etc Where as those of us who, not being slobs or anything but allowed for a certain amount of bacteria to be introduced stayed the more healthy. I would make a good bet she was never allowed to go play in the mud as a kid whereas I was given free reign to go get as mucky as possible! :)

Hello Wanderer, good to have you here!

Philip

733. Believe it or not, courtesy counts

Comment #84630 by Philip1978 on November 3, 2007 at 1:06 am

Diacanu

Biz is a good chap really but as V said its not worth bruising your head over, in the many fascinating conversations I have had with Biz I rather feel evidence is not something that sits well with him.

Biz, trawling through all the things we have said to you I notice that none of it sinks in at all, ever!

I have lost track of the number of times people have produced good arguments to show that SCIENCE IS NOT A RELIGION, but you insist with all your might that it is, please, for Quetz's sake listen to what is being told to you!

Philip

734. Pope's 'morning after pill' speech criticized

Comment #84399 by Philip1978 on November 2, 2007 at 2:02 am

Fides
"Of course the Holy Father's correct to stand up for those wishing to make sound moral choices without fear of prosecution."

What are you talking about here? The Pope could not be more wrong if he wanted to be.

I do not call forcing rape victims to have the children of their attackers a "sound moral choice", there are not words to describe just how disgusting that suggestion is. You should know how I feel about women being raped, I think I have explained it enough in my posts and I do not take very kindly to the words of this deluded maniac and neither should you.

I do not call allowing the spread of AIDS, cervical cancer and other diseases rational or helpful to this world. I call it ignorance of the highest degree, people are DYING because of this Fides! This man has blood on his hands and people are praising him for it rather than arresting him, all because he is the "Holy Father"

What is so great about having such ridiculous and unnecessary fears put into people over something of which they obviously know nothing about. The consequences of "The Holy Father's" actions are affecting this world Fides and its not in a good way, people are suffering- why can't you see that?

Philip

735. Pope's 'morning after pill' speech criticized

Comment #83770 by Philip1978 on October 31, 2007 at 7:30 am

"Sorry mate, but the god he worships isn't the one you don't believe in, and he knows it."

Hahahhaa cool!

I thought I was being vague enough when I said Catholic!! :)

Philip

736. Lessons in hate found at leading mosques

Comment #83769 by Philip1978 on October 31, 2007 at 7:27 am

"It's actually a minor law of sociology. Ever collection of incompetent tosspots has always had it in for the jews. Dunno why. It's just the way things seem to turn out."

Ah, that's easy, the other Abrahamic religions arrived way after the Jews did, I reckon its jealousy! Plus the Christians and Muslim's plagiarised loads and are probably seeing how they can hide all that by being nasty to them! :)

Philip

737. Pope's 'morning after pill' speech criticized

Comment #83766 by Philip1978 on October 31, 2007 at 7:19 am

Billy

Hmm David vs Darth, normally I am opposed to violence but in this case I would pay good money to see those two rip each other to bits! But,after seeing you Scots in action against terrorists I think David would "banjo" Darth into the floor!

I wonder which side Biz and Devolved would take, chaps if you are reading this I would love to know?! Fides would obviously fight on Darth's side (at least I think he would, he is a Catholic isnt he? Fides, apologies if I got that wrong, if I am going to insult someone's religion I would hate to get it wrong!) :)

Philip

738. Lessons in hate found at leading mosques

Comment #83703 by Philip1978 on October 31, 2007 at 1:57 am

I grew up in High Wycombe, I have seen it become more and more dangerous as time has gone on. 20 years ago nobody, but nobody, would be doing half the things that I see down there now. (Cor, I am sounding old here!)

Wycombe has become a very violent place, especially over the weekends, I still hear now of stabbings and even shootings that I would never have believed possible. What shocked me even more is that I went to school with some of the terrorists arrested, I think that was last year, not sure. That was when they found bomb making equipment in some woods where I used to play as a kid and rounded up a load of men who were planning to do some terrible acts of violence.

I mostly think its is due to gang culture and religion, Wycombe is full of chavs and religious idiots who are constantly making the place where I grew up a nightmare. People get into fights over absolutely nothing and it just a minority of people doing this. It worries me that so much hate is being brewed up, but thinking about it these book findings are of no surprise to me, after what I have seen already books about Jihad, stoning people etc are nothing out of the ordinary.

This is a great pity, High Wycombe is actually quite a lovely place with some amazing people living there, I hope something can be done about it

Philip

739. Pope's 'morning after pill' speech criticized

Comment #83702 by Philip1978 on October 31, 2007 at 1:36 am

MuNky82

"What if the woman has been raped? Won't that child be a product of evil instead of love? Won't that child carry that yoke all his life?"

They don't care about rape victims, I have heard of countless stories of women who have been raped and the Catholic Church still insists that abortion and such the like are all wrong. One story that always gets my anger flowing was some poor 14 year old girl out in Ireland was brutally raped, beaten and left for dead but was found and restored back to health. It was only after tests were done that they found out she was pregnant. She had to come over to England to get the procedure done because of the religious idiots who said it was wrong to abort.

I personally think the Vatican be sent to prison for what it has done to this world, it has no right to inflict such psychological barbarism all the name of "holiness". They are essentially condoning rape and yet the world still respects and honours them, its disgusting.

Philip

740. Tests of faith over 'The Golden Compass'

Comment #83415 by Philip1978 on October 30, 2007 at 1:36 am

Predictably, the film, opening Dec. 7, already has raised the ire of one outspoken conservative, Catholic League President William Donahue. Earlier this month, he called on Christians to boycott the movie because it will "seduce" parents into buying Pullman's "pro-atheist" book.

I love it when people like Bill get in such a hissy fit over stuff like this, there he is practically having a heart attack over a book, is he really that scared of Philip Pullman? This sort of behaviour is so counter productive, if someone froths and spits about something like this the controversy is bound to cause interest in what is happening. Talk about having your own publicity campaign without having to spend any money!!

Thinking about it, what is Bill saying here, is this book really that persuasive that the entire Catholic church is going to crumble over a film about an atheist book? I secretly would love it if that actually happened but I can't see a mass de-conversion coming any time soon!

Will go see the film though, I might be able to finish the first book before I do, I have just over a month! :)

Philip

741. Face to faith

Comment #83130 by Philip1978 on October 29, 2007 at 2:58 am

Irate

Kudos to your cat, really, she has done the world a great service! Any cat that pisses over the Pope and shits on Galloway has my full admiration!

Good beer to you for having the forethought of putting the Guardian there in the first place!

Philip

742. Debate between Christopher Hitchens and Alister McGrath

Comment #83112 by Philip1978 on October 29, 2007 at 1:24 am

Dr B
Wishing you all the best here, I hope you, your perfect cock, wit and humour are not fiddled with in a bad way by any of those naughty nurses! :)

Take care,

Philip

743. Face to faith

Comment #83105 by Philip1978 on October 29, 2007 at 1:07 am

V
May I congratulate you on your use of the word "bollocks", tis a fine word and it rather does sum up this article rather well! :)

Corylus
Fantastic stuff, great post!

Apologies all but I am suffering from an over abundance of happiness this morning and I have no idea as to the cause of it, suffice to say I am rather enjoying it nonetheless!

Woo Hoo! :)

Philip

744. Debate between Christopher Hitchens and Alister McGrath

Comment #82356 by Philip1978 on October 26, 2007 at 6:22 am

"So, again, the more logical and knowledgeable an atheist is the less one can expect moral behavior from them"

Oh great, so the more I learn and become logical the more I am likely to be a complete bastard, cheers mate!

Well, as is now my wont,I am off to bbq some virgins, who is with me?
Mwahahahahahaha!

Virginbane Philip! :)

745. Debate between Christopher Hitchens and Alister McGrath

Comment #82293 by Philip1978 on October 26, 2007 at 2:29 am

"Because both the number and size of gaps in the atheistic understanding of reality are growing"

THAT'S HALF THE JOY OF IT ALL YOU SILLY SOD! Mystery is a great part of life, if we knew it all, or even claimed we knew it all, it would be highly dull and boring!


You cannot, should not, just plain forget about saying "Right, there is a gap in your understanding, it absolutely positively MUST then be without a shadow of a scintilla of an iota of doubt be GOD"! Plus not just any God, but Dianelos's because I have yet to find out exactly what his God actually does because his God and the God of the Bible are two completely separate deities!

This whole "you have gaps in your knowledge so it must be my god stuff" has got to stop unless you can prove it matey. So far you haven't convinced anyone of the abilities of your God that cannot be explained by something less complex and easier to understand. I can and will bet my right foot that something less complex and easier to understand than your God is missing in these gaps. If it arrives in our life time you owe me a cup of Tea!

Besides, we all know it was Quetz who did it anyway! :)

Philip

746. Most religious people are moderate, and don't hurt anybody

Comment #82279 by Philip1978 on October 26, 2007 at 1:44 am

I have always thought that all the moderates I have ever met are wonderful, jovial and less harmless people but I still think they do provide the platform on which the extremists stand. Without their firm belief in the basics there would never be anything to take that one step further- the basics being firm belief in a God and adherences to the doctrines ordered by that religion. Its like saying "I believe in the God of the Bible, I just ignore the more ferocious parts of it".

What I want to do is stay very clear of generalisations, I hear it all too much about atheists to last a life time

However, I don't think moderate religion is anywhere near as harmless as they are made out to be. I think religion in itself is as BillySands coined the phrase "Mental Torture". Religion to me, I dont care what faith it is, is this belief that if you do what you think a higher power wants you to do in life, rewards will be given. Should you break one of these rules you are then putting the most unnecessary pressure on yourself, you are mentally torturing yourself because you have somehow offended this higher power. Be it the most minor thing, you can still blame yourself for your lack of adherence to the rules of that faith. So then you beg this higher power for forgiveness, worse still you pray to have this God to set things right. Which leads nicely onto prayer...

Prayer is a waste of sodding time, Yes, No, Maybe later is not the most convincing way of KNOWING that your particular God answers prayer. If it doesn't happen you are left thinking, "shit, I have offended Him somehow!" and possibly start inventing reasons why you have offended Him.

If things are going well, yippiee, a nice cosy feeling of well being and arent I a good believer!

All if this is mental delusion and this is the reason I think moderate religion is harmful, thinking that you KNOW what the invisible thinks is just positively nasty in my opinion, the rules are so ambiguous, nothing gets done and you can punish yourself for the most ridiculous of things.


Of course the obvious response to all this is "Oh but that's not how MY God works, noooo, its not like that at all!"

I say it is THEIR God, if they pray, if they believe in an invisible being who is supposed to have an effect on theirs or the whole world's population then there is some reason that they are mentally deluding themselves and possibly psychologically damaging themselves over nothing.

Moderate religion is fantastically harmless and should not be encouraged too much, if they have these basic beliefs then its no wonder some people take it several horrible steps further to the extreme and dangerous levels.

Ok rant over, apologies to all! Must be the fundamentalist atheist mindset I have :)

Philip

747. Science can answer how questions but only religion can answer why questions

Comment #81752 by Philip1978 on October 25, 2007 at 6:06 am

Why? 42! NEXT!

748. American kids, dumber than dirt: Warning: The next generation might just be the biggest pile of idiots in U.S. history

Comment #81698 by Philip1978 on October 25, 2007 at 3:51 am

eoinc

I completely agree with you there, I pretty much fit your bill there, I went to public school etc

I think what is really being rallied against is what elfinabout has typed, that the Governments are to blame for some of this apathy, giving praise to slobbish behaviour and no encouragement to do better and improve.

To give you an example, the Government wants to charge higher council taxes for those who recycle more and for those who live near decent schools. So by that impression we should all move to ghettos, dont recycle anything and have crap schools because you can get rewarded better for it. If you have a load of kids, commit a few petty crimes then the Government are there to help you find a house and look after your kids as long as you don't get married
Schools are being encouraged to sell their playing fields to build housing - Kids cannot get out and play sport- great idea!

So I am a law abiding chap, I don't do drugs, I pay my taxes, I pay my bills on time, recycle - the works and I could go completely the other way and live life in luxury!

Fackin' ell, wot tha fack, I'll b a gangsta and get me some bitches and bling cos that'll get me respect innit!

Philip aka Tha Chav

749. The God Delusion and Alister E McGrath

Comment #81677 by Philip1978 on October 25, 2007 at 3:01 am

Hehehe,

Netscape/Old Testament- Old, cantankerous and full of highly odd teachings that drove people to madness or war

Internet Explorer/New Testament- Same shit with new and improved rules for arsing things up!

Both supposedly inspired by a genius but with suspicious authors who cant agree on things!

Philip

750. The God Delusion and Alister E McGrath

Comment #81668 by Philip1978 on October 25, 2007 at 2:37 am

toomanytribbles

Now if you look at cyberspace, either the netscape or Windows Explorer, you can pick and choose sites of the Internet which chime in with that decent moral consensus that we all share about staying awake, and you can say Oh well, this comes from the Internet; this comes from the Internet. But of course you'll find plenty of other bits in the Internet which are simply horrendous by today's standards and force people to fall asleep on a regular basis without the proper raising of attentiveness provided by Tea and Coffee!

Philip