751. Inventor Doesn't Dare Say 'Perpetual Motion Machine'

Comment #127830 by Philip1978 on February 15, 2008 at 4:27 pm

Sorry

I got the impression that you and ThermoThug were the same person, if this is not the case, I humbly apologise for any inconvenience caused and would like to discuss the topic rather than hurl insults back and forth

Philip

752. Inventor Doesn't Dare Say 'Perpetual Motion Machine'

Comment #127822 by Philip1978 on February 15, 2008 at 4:22 pm

Perhaps if you were more polite that headache go away?

You did disappoint me, you insulted some people that I have a lot of respect for.

I have said that I am willing to learn about what you have to say, please just stop insulting the world and you may get the answers you want.

Philip

753. Inventor Doesn't Dare Say 'Perpetual Motion Machine'

Comment #127815 by Philip1978 on February 15, 2008 at 4:15 pm

Omnitard is that still the best you have?

Philip

754. Inventor Doesn't Dare Say 'Perpetual Motion Machine'

Comment #127806 by Philip1978 on February 15, 2008 at 4:03 pm

Diacanu

First we would have to discuss at what rate the clones are being created at, we aint taking into consideration spontaneous occurrences are we? To me thuggy and omniidiot are of the same creation, how the heck do you test for that? They seem spontaneous but alas are the same pillock

To replicate such an insufferable idiot as has performed above that would take science into depths not yet fathomed!

I wish them all the best of luck

Philip

755. Inventor Doesn't Dare Say 'Perpetual Motion Machine'

Comment #127797 by Philip1978 on February 15, 2008 at 3:54 pm

As I thought, you have nothing but childish swear words, poor you, I hoped for a second you wanted to discuss thermodynamics, something which I have scant knowledge of but am willing to learn from those able enough to help me.

When you are ready to grow up you might want to contribute to a discussion, your words are hardly going to upset me as they are now

Philip

756. Inventor Doesn't Dare Say 'Perpetual Motion Machine'

Comment #127787 by Philip1978 on February 15, 2008 at 3:48 pm

You got anything to say about thermodynamics or are you going to hurl pathetic insults at me all night?

757. Inventor Doesn't Dare Say 'Perpetual Motion Machine'

Comment #127779 by Philip1978 on February 15, 2008 at 3:44 pm

Sorry, you call that an insult?

From the guy who now has a split personality, good luck with that!

Philip

758. Inventor Doesn't Dare Say 'Perpetual Motion Machine'

Comment #127773 by Philip1978 on February 15, 2008 at 3:41 pm

omnitard

oh dear dog no, please tell me thats not you again? If it is, please go away.

If it isnt, my sincere apologies and I hope your grandfather is in good health

Philip

759. Inventor Doesn't Dare Say 'Perpetual Motion Machine'

Comment #127768 by Philip1978 on February 15, 2008 at 3:38 pm

Steve,

Would an increase in heat/energy suggest otherwise? Is that what would be the result of the experiment described above?


Prankster, good night sir/madam, sleep well and have very naughty dreams! :)

Philip

760. Inventor Doesn't Dare Say 'Perpetual Motion Machine'

Comment #127760 by Philip1978 on February 15, 2008 at 3:18 pm

Diacanu

If I haven't said it enough, you are fine chap, worthy of many cups of Tea and medals - I still think you should write a book entitled "If Jerry Falwell had an enema..." you would make millions!

This perpetual motion stuff, sounds crazy to me, I want to see this chap actually prove it, part of me wants to see science possibly having to look at its mechanisms IF it proves worthy. I am not advocating taking this looney seriously. I think I have heard enough to say the inventor of this machine is talking bollocks and until proved otherwise will remain so. I also like the idea that science is continually being challenged to prove something right.

Philip

761. Inventor Doesn't Dare Say 'Perpetual Motion Machine'

Comment #127749 by Philip1978 on February 15, 2008 at 2:59 pm

al-rawandi

Crapulent, I think, though I could be corrected, comes from the the association, but somewhat ambiguous, connection between Mr T.Crapper and the toilet. What dickhead is preaching above sounds and smells like crap so I called him a crapulent idiot


Ok


Thugpants

Hey Phil, we all love you ok. Just go away yourself, you really sound.... dumb

762. Inventor Doesn't Dare Say 'Perpetual Motion Machine'

Comment #127731 by Philip1978 on February 15, 2008 at 2:41 pm

Oh no, I am a tard, my life is over, I have been insulted, will someone give me a cup of tea so I may recuperate?

You crapulent idiot, you are not making many friends here are you? I suggested proper discussion but you seem incapable of that and want to insult some good people!

Philip

763. Inventor Doesn't Dare Say 'Perpetual Motion Machine'

Comment #127713 by Philip1978 on February 15, 2008 at 2:30 pm

Enough thermobashing?
Apologise right this second for insulting everyone and actually add something that is more intellectually stimulating that the putrid bile that has leaked out of your disgusting mind!

If you want to talk in an intelligent and civilised manner, anyone here will take you up on your offer, however, continue to puke out this playground drivel and expect to be ignored!

Go away!

Philip

764. Inventor Doesn't Dare Say 'Perpetual Motion Machine'

Comment #127699 by Philip1978 on February 15, 2008 at 2:17 pm

ThermoThug

I guess I just had to read the name, it says it all despite the fact that I have done my best to see the best in people all my life, you have done your best to sway me from my efforts

You are a bully and a coward sir, I suggest you go elsewhere if you want to fight. That Bruce Lee avatar is a disgrace and insult to the man you are portraying. How dare you also arrogantly make assumptions upon someone as bright and as intellectually engaging as Anna? You got a point to prove or can I take your character apart more accurately than you have just spewed on to this site?

Go away, you are pathetic

Philip

765. Debate between Richard Dawkins and Madeline Bunting

Comment #127386 by Philip1978 on February 15, 2008 at 8:14 am

Hangs head in shame, offers to make Steve a cup of Tea in penance

My use of the words "made up" was a heinous error, it was a slip of the keyboard and I apologise for any offence caused by my sloppy typing.

The less said about my use of the word McGrath the better....

766. Debate between Richard Dawkins and Madeline Bunting

Comment #127381 by Philip1978 on February 15, 2008 at 8:04 am

In fact, there are deep parallels between the rules of Mornington Crescent and the ideas behind religions.

767. Dumb and Dumber: Are Americans Hostile to Knowledge?

Comment #127374 by Philip1978 on February 15, 2008 at 7:57 am

I think this is somewhat unfair, I know several people from my own green and pleasant land who cannot locate the difference twixt their arse and elbow!

Interesting study though, I wonder what would happen if they did the same in England, has anyone heard of such an investigation?

Philip

768. Debate between Richard Dawkins and Madeline Bunting

Comment #127365 by Philip1978 on February 15, 2008 at 7:45 am

Someone cemented it up, right, its time for something daring, I am going to....ALDWYCH!

769. Debate between Richard Dawkins and Madeline Bunting

Comment #127359 by Philip1978 on February 15, 2008 at 7:37 am

Damn!
Looks like I am in spoon, I wonder how I can get out of this?

770. Debate between Richard Dawkins and Madeline Bunting

Comment #127349 by Philip1978 on February 15, 2008 at 7:17 am

annabanana

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mornington_Crescent_(game)
I think you might want to read this!

Irate, sir that was a bold move, I think I will counter that using Humphrey's 58th Law, the one concerning elbows and move to Mudchute

771. Debate between Richard Dawkins and Madeline Bunting

Comment #127340 by Philip1978 on February 15, 2008 at 7:04 am

I am going to see if I can copy Stovold's dramatic tea drinking move, first played in 1954 and head to Dalston Kingsland

772. Debate between Richard Dawkins and Madeline Bunting

Comment #127326 by Philip1978 on February 15, 2008 at 6:48 am

Splitter? Ha, I'll go to Dollis Hill if you are not careful!

Kentish Town West!

773. Debate between Richard Dawkins and Madeline Bunting

Comment #127307 by Philip1978 on February 15, 2008 at 6:33 am

Irate, GC

I think my opening move will be invoking Rushton's Gambit and go from Knightsbridge to Ongar!

Philip

774. Feb 12th: Happy Darwin Day!

Comment #126777 by Philip1978 on February 14, 2008 at 8:08 am

Shmeezers

Even with my complete lack of knowledge about planet making (this is just me, I am not insinuating you are daft or anything I promise!), if you postulate that the planet was designed by something, then you have to find a designer for the designer and the designer for that too - that simply does not work. Its too complex and doesn't explain anything.

Also which "designer" was it? Allah, Odin, Zeus? Again, complexity and more questions that cannot be answered.

I think the others on here can explain things better about how the Earth was formed, but I don't see a designer anywhere. Look at Earth quakes, I remember someone saying to me that if the Earth was a different size earthquakes would not happen. There are multiple faults with this Earth's working parts which again I am sure there are folk on here who could explain things in a more accurate way but I thought I would add my own ideas as well. I hope that helps, even a little bit

Cheers

Philip

775. Murder plot against Danish cartoonist

Comment #126693 by Philip1978 on February 14, 2008 at 1:08 am

Now look here you breakfast heathens, there is only ONE breakfast in this entire world that you should even be aware of and worship! This toast and jam is all very well and good but really, do you want breakfast or PROPER Breakfast?

Go to Telegram Sam's cafe in Southampton, England and have one of their Big Breakfasts, truly The Best Fry Up there will ever be in life. Every person I have ever taken in there has walked out with a smile on their face. The breakfast comes with a FREE CUP OF TEA - what more do you want?


Right, on to the thread, Libertas thanks for that link, thought this line was the most telling

Baqeri added, "Sanctities and values of the entire faiths need to be respected and it is not acceptable to insult them and remain silent on excuse of safeguarding the freedom of speech."
He added, "Justifying such blasphemous acts that are against the foundations of humanity and the basics of democracy is totally unacceptable."

776. Exorcism undergoes a revival across Europe

Comment #126404 by Philip1978 on February 13, 2008 at 7:03 am

AntonAAK

I doubt very much if whatever passes for Mr D'Souza's education helps him very much. His bigotry, selfishness, wont to misquote and ad hom. people far more intelligent than he is outweigh any attempts to further his education into the subjects he frequently gets wrong.

The Salem Witch hunts are just the tip of the iceberg, his knowledge of history alone is Titanic!

Philip

777. Murder plot against Danish cartoonist

Comment #126398 by Philip1978 on February 13, 2008 at 6:40 am

Oh well, just to stir the cauldron a bit in this very interesting discussion, I guess it was only time before some bright spark like me added the Sam Harris explanation of this subject

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/sam-harris/in-defense-of-torture_b_8993.html

I think he makes a very good point about the fact that if we are to wage war, if we are to drop bombs then we should be willing to get information out of a certain class of criminal etc

My apologies for not being able to add my own views on this subject and just quoting from someone else, I just wanted to add something else to the discussion.

Philip

778. Feb 12th: Happy Darwin Day!

Comment #125749 by Philip1978 on February 12, 2008 at 1:34 am

From the Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy by Douglas Adams

"We'll be saying a big hello to all intelligent life forms everywhere ... and to everyone else out there, the secret is to bang the rocks together, guys."

779. Bill Maher on Larry King Live

Comment #125746 by Philip1978 on February 12, 2008 at 1:25 am

My goodness, I actually enjoyed that!

Bill usually makes me want to hurl imaginary custard pies at him because in the past he has been a little too weird even for my liking.

But that was a very good interview, he carried himself well, he was articulate, his points we well made and constructive. I completely agree with him, religion, whilst sometimes it can do some marginal good (though I would still question even that) it is destructive and unhelpful for the human race as a whole. The accusations of bigotry and "how dare you criticise the "FAITH" and the "TRUTH" you are not allowed" are things I am completely sick and tired of hearing but it seems to be the last ditch defence in some cases. So well done Bill, you have changed my mind a little, no more custard pies for the time being!

HA! Who says atheists can't change their minds, I am not a fundy I tell you! :)

Philip

780. Exorcism undergoes a revival across Europe

Comment #125313 by Philip1978 on February 11, 2008 at 8:15 am

"People don't pray anymore, they don't go to church, they don't go to confession. The devil has an easy time of it," Amorth said in an interview. "There's a lot more devil worship, people interested in satanic things and seances, and less in Jesus.

"According to what I could perceive, the devil was present and acting in an obvious way," he said. "How else can you explain how a wife, in the space of a couple of weeks, could come to hate her own husband, a man who is a good person?"

Jankowski said that an archbishop granted him the authority last October to perform exorcisms and that he's been busy ever since. As for the afflicted wife? "We're still working with her," he said

781. Hitchens and Boteach Debate on God

Comment #125223 by Philip1978 on February 11, 2008 at 5:06 am

I did enjoy that debate, Hitchens was very good indeed.

Once I stopped imagining that its was not Eddie Izzard the comedian doing an impression of Christopher Walkien (Utube it, its hilarious) and that it was Rabbi Boteach it got very interesting.

That guy is just one great big Ad hominum attacker and a consummate liar! He never answered a single question, he just frothed at Hitchens about how grumpy he is because he is not religious! Talk about pot calling he kettle black, I have always thought Hitchens to be rather jovial and fun!

But I did enjoy that, was a lively debate and Hitchens won it and won it well, bravo!

Philip

782. Inventor Doesn't Dare Say 'Perpetual Motion Machine'

Comment #124025 by Philip1978 on February 8, 2008 at 7:17 am

I share everybody's scepticism but I also will just say happy hunting to the guy if he wins, lets see what happens. I think its intriguing that MIT have bothered to have their names connected with it and are interested enough to look at it, so we shall see.

Sarah95, Quetz moves in mysterious ways, sometimes he chooses to get there first!

Great quote, great episode!

Philip

783. Sharia law in UK is 'unavoidable'

Comment #123928 by Philip1978 on February 8, 2008 at 2:12 am

Diacanu

You are a wise and very funny man sir!

Cartomancer, thou art a genius


al-rawandi

Good idea but remember weed induces weirdness, those guys are frothy now, giving them even more paranoid delusions could prove a little dangerous!


Speaking of which, what the heck is Rowan on? Religion is an evil drug, clouds the mind and the senses!

Sharia Law? Erm, do these laws include the ones about rape victims having to have a number of male witnesses testify otherwise the rape victim can be branded a liar and a whore and be put to death for adultery?

Method of death would be stoning, here's a lovely excerpt I found from http://www.religioustolerance.org/isl_adul2.htm

"Under the form of Sharia law that is practiced in Sudan, "the stones thrown during the execution should not be so large that the offender dies after a few strikes, nor so small as to fail to cause serious injury."

784. Ad 'likely to offend gay people'

Comment #123326 by Philip1978 on February 7, 2008 at 1:27 am

****s!

Right, I will now stop swearing and revert back to mild mannered me!


"Gay aim: abolish the family"

Dammit Steve and Cartomancer, I knew you two were up to something, esp you Cartomancer in your designer suit, you rascal! :)


I love the real reason behind all this that its "a perceived threat to Christian values"

What, gay people have been secretly plotting away all this time? So they are imagining a threat to their imaginary God and imaginary moral values, bloody hell, what an imagination these guys have got!

There is typical religion for you, whilst gay people are going about the business of normal human activities and not doing any harm to the world because of it and suddenly that is automatically seen as trouble and threatening! I guess you always have to watch the quiet ones! :)


I live near people who are too dim to peel an orange who are more of a threat to family values! They are only having kids so the government provides them with money and a home whilst they do nothing about contributing to society other than smoking, drinking and wreaking things which are not theirs. But as long as they are not gay and Christian then that is fine!

Yep, I think I have been offended, no doubt about it!

Philip

785. Pope says some science shatters human dignity

Comment #120551 by Philip1978 on February 2, 2008 at 12:36 am

I for one have a very strong dislike of the Catholic Church, I am actually wondering who the most evil man in this planet is, The Pope is high on my list.

I remember having a discussion with Fides et Ratio on another thread (*Cough* Which he never got around to answering *Cough*) and I kept pressing into him just precisely what an evil man Darth Benedict is but Fides was having none of it. To this day I still don't know why anybody gives this idiot (The Pope, Fides is no idiot!) the time of day - even with his Hat Diacanu!

I think, (perhaps miracles do happen!) that religion is the most magnificent device to block out all bad things that religites just do not want to know. Take Darth here, he does and says some of the most harmful things known to humanity and people love him for it. God, IF he was around, does all sorts of completely cruel and unnecessary things and people love him and the mental slavery that comes with worship for it.


Do some people just have this cut off switch or pair of Joo Janta Peril Sensitive Sunglasses (See Hitchhikers Guide) that automatically switches on and polices the brain into saying - "Don't worry about this, you just keep going there, nothing going on over there, move along!" So much so that the moment people start telling them "Jesus created the notion of Hell, he is a complete _insert favorite insult_ ", shutters slam down " JESUS IS LOVE, JESUS IS LOVE, move along, nothing to see etc!


What on Earth does it take to get through to these people? What is the cure for Stockholm Syndrome?

Well, if anyone knows of some idealistic farm boy who could actually be convinced that flying through hyperspace isn't like dusting crops, then we might have a go at removing Darth from his throne or even possibly redeeming him in the process! :)


Philip

786. 'Irrational Atheist' trounces God-deniers

Comment #120065 by Philip1978 on February 1, 2008 at 8:23 am

micaht Do you want to be trolled like the rest for calling people names or do you want to actually discuss something? I think we would be happier discussing stuff as I find it more productive Your choice Philip

787. 'Irrational Atheist' trounces God-deniers

Comment #120059 by Philip1978 on February 1, 2008 at 8:17 am

micaht Nice entrance, pleased to meet you too! Steve is not my ringleader, neither is Professor Dawkins, they are just a couple of people from a whole host of others whom I have a lot of respect for. I am not impressed by Mr Day's comments so far, it all just seems to be a bunch of attacks on some very intelligent people's characters without any substance. Plus, like Steve said, I think this is a sales pitch and nothing worth getting annoyed about. Mr Day is entitled to his opinions and may he write what he likes, but from what I have read so far, I am not in the least bit inclined to do any more about it. Philip

788. Scientists discover way to reverse loss of memory

Comment #118978 by Philip1978 on January 31, 2008 at 8:32 am

What a discovery!

I am so happy about this, I have known far too many people with Alzheimers and its dreadful to see them decline the way they do. This brings a smile to my face and gives me hope, well done these guys, this is a tremendous breakthrough.

Plus I want one of these fitted so that I may never forget where my keys, mobile and wallet are ever again! The only downside is that you would remember what you got up to the night before when on the beers, some things should be left forgotten! :)

Philip

789. Happy Birthday Josh Timonen!

Comment #118763 by Philip1978 on January 31, 2008 at 12:32 am

Happy Birthday Josh!

Its time to act your age, so with the years you have had I suggest you use your wisdom and intellect to go cause some serious mischief!

Have a wild one!

Philip Priestley

790. Richard Dawkins on The Big Debate

Comment #118759 by Philip1978 on January 31, 2008 at 12:16 am

CoKane

I got the impression Richard Dimbleby actually wanted to stop things before they kicked off any further. Professor Dawkins got the point across, he made that guy admit that apostasy is a death penalty. The lady from the Ex Muslims group had already made the point that one of the girls she had heard about had been murdered by her father for not wearing the veil - for all his blustering that Muslim chap did not have a leg to stand on after that.

Dog Boots, I live in Maidenhead, I will go ask the Rabbi about that one! Technically you could give him points for not obfuscating, he was telling the truth after all! :) Obviously he then gets several million minus points for being evil towards kids but I appreciated his honesty!

Hmm I think people are right here, why no reaction to any of the more nasty points in this, were they all afraid of the Baby Eating Bishop of Bath and Wells?

RickM

Mainly in my younger years RE was simply looking at Bible passages but when I moved up to about 17 the teacher, a Reverend, actually encouraged discussion from various members in the class about their beliefs or we had visitors come in to chat as well. My only regret is that I wish I had known what I know now 12 years later! Saying that, I do remember some Catholic nutters who came in who I questioned rather heavily, gosh I enjoyed that! :)

Philip

791. Richard Dawkins on The Big Debate

Comment #117965 by Philip1978 on January 30, 2008 at 5:05 am

doctor_regtools

I thought Professor Dawkins did very well, what didn't you like?

Philip

792. Richard Dawkins on The Big Debate

Comment #117955 by Philip1978 on January 30, 2008 at 4:05 am

AfraidToDie

Lab coat would suffice surely! :)

What is so telling in this debate is that there are always going to be people like those school kids brought in to say "But I am not suffering" and all the people representing the faiths failing miserably to squirm out of the problems set against them. All of them were bending over backwards to show their religion isn't the oppressive and highly ridiculous farce that they actually are forcing upon kids in schools.

Kids are being brought up in a religion which they have no say in, its a fact and its highly wrong. I completely agree with Paul42's and Pyota's posts in particular, though all have been excellent, about the segregation of faith schools. I too don't see the point if they are all supposedly claiming they are going to teach everything anyway, why have the bias towards one faith? No, if religions are to survive they must hijack the kids lest they end up on the myth and legend list with the plethora of all the other religions humankind has discarded.

I too had most disagreement with the Muslim Dr who Professor Dawkins challenged very well indeed. (Though the Catholic lady and the Anglican chap were not far behind!) I thought his arguments about there being a difference between Islamic law in an Islamic ruled country and this one were exceedingly poor. I don't actually remember it being allowed for Islamic Law to be changed when it comes to reading the Qu'ran or the Hadiths, they have to be read in their absolute literal sense. Apostasy IS a crime for which is punishable by death under Islamic Law which would be taught at an Islamic school.

So, again, my thanks to Professor Dawkins and all the others who are campaigning against this sort of thing, its encouraging that your voices are being heard.

Time for Pink Floyd I feel:

HEY, TEACHER, LEAVE THEM KIDS ALONE!

Philip

793. A Letter From Hell

Comment #115946 by Philip1978 on January 25, 2008 at 5:33 am

Ole

Tell me, does Hell ever freeze over?

If so, I got a shed load of favours to cash in on! :)

Edit: from Wikipedia

Temperatures in Hell can reach -20°C during winter.

Right...I have some work to do!

Philip

794. A Letter From Hell

Comment #115915 by Philip1978 on January 25, 2008 at 3:11 am

Corylus

Yes I know, Signs was a dreadful movie, kids should be shielded from such garbage! :)

Philip

795. A Letter From Hell

Comment #115867 by Philip1978 on January 25, 2008 at 12:43 am

Oh My Dog!

Josh - was this a sort of futuristic version of you sending the last posting to RD.net before being carted off? Must change the banner heading.... No wait, I have to get that guy trolled....nooooo its David Robertson....please let me baaaaaaaacckkk!

Dear me, I quickly went to look at that site, there are some really stupid people on there wiffling on about how its changed their lives??!

This does actually have to be the worst attempt at worrying people into believing in hell I have ever seen. I will keep a list this year and see if I can send an award for the worst one - the prize being a copy of the God Delusion! :)

Philip

796. The real danger in Darwin is not evolution, but racism

Comment #115484 by Philip1978 on January 24, 2008 at 8:32 am

Irate

You have to admit it was a very bold move by eepeist, I know of very few players who have arrived at Mornington Crescent in such a fashion!


Right, I give in, I am a total duffer when it comes to evolution (...well pretty much everything else but lets not nit pick! :) ) I am going to read Climbing Mount Improbable, see if it penetrates this History and English graduates addled brain, then possibly move on to something more in-depth. I want to know more about this "Theory" all you lot are talking about! :) (I was using the Creationist "" marks there just for fun!) I just have to finish my book on Jesus's and his connection to multiple Near Eastern myths and I will get right on it!

Cheers all


Philip

797. Top 10 Reasons to Believe Logic Over Religion

Comment #114864 by Philip1978 on January 23, 2008 at 4:27 am

I too am upset to hear of Heath Ledger, I thought he was a great actor and his loss is terrible at such a young age.

Philip

798. Ken Ham in Leicester April 2008

Comment #114846 by Philip1978 on January 23, 2008 at 3:12 am

Guys I wouldn't bother going, I remember Billy Sands coming back from one of those meetings with bad feelings, he only speaks and does not answer questions. Billy said he just frothed a bunch of lies and some idiots listened to him, it was not anything exciting.

Philip

799. This Week's Flea

Comment #114339 by Philip1978 on January 22, 2008 at 2:26 am

ADH

As if you dont have enough people harassing you with questions, I am going to join in as well! mwhahahahaha! :)

You are saying the Bible is infallible yes?

I too am going to have to disagree on this based on various historical inaccuracies.

What year was Jesus born in - Do I go with Luke and say around 6 AD or Matthew in around 6BC?

http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/richard_carrier/quirinius.html

Jesus is reported to have grown up in the city of Nazareth - How come it was being used as a graveyard up until 67 AD which means it was still a graveyard during his entire life span?

If we go with Matthew 2.22,23 on this one

But when he heard that Archelaus did reign in Judaea in the room of his father Herod, he was afraid to go thither: notwithstanding, being warned of God in a dream, he turned aside into the parts of Galilee: And he came and dwelt in a CITY called Nazareth: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophets, He shall be called a Nazarene.

Of course there was the prophesy made in Judges 13.5

"For, lo, thou shalt conceive, and bear a son; and no razor shall come on his head: for the child shall be a Nazarite unto God from the womb: and he shall begin to deliver Israel out of the hand of the Philistines."


A Nazarite is one who vows not to cut his hair and devotes their life to God - Came from a cursed Jewish sect out from around 1AD called the Nazerenes. Somehow Matthew has twisted it around to make it seem that Jesus grew up in Nazareth to fit the prophesy - I find that a bit fishy to be honest.

The Nazarenes were driven from their home towns during the Bar Kochba revolution in 135AD where, after splitting into two groups 'Evyonim'-Nosrim and the Christian'-Nosrim they, the 'Evyonim'-Nosrim, resettled in a place they named Nazareth - City of the Poor.

For more reading have a look at http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/nazareth.html


Even then I find that evidence a bit sketchy since the only bit of evidence I have seen for that one is from a find in Ceaserea in 1962 of some marble fragments confirming the plight of the people who fled during the revolution. Due to a mistranslation it looked like one of the fragments said that Nazareth was one of the plces fled to when in fact it was better translated as Gennesaret (see this http://www.atheists.org/christianity/jesuslife.html
for further details)


Those are just two examples, a lot of people on here have presented many others, don't you get the feeling that perhaps the Bible is not as reliable as you think?

I think you have a lot of questions to wade through so just answer this when you can but I would be interested to hear your views on it

Kind Regards

Philip

800. Gay Jesus play blasted by bishop

Comment #114326 by Philip1978 on January 22, 2008 at 12:38 am

Roland F

Very interesting, I have always been rather at odds with church goers who are also gay, its like they want to punish themselves or are completely oblivious to the mad doctrines of that religion that specify quite strictly that thou shalt not have sex with men if thou art male thyself! Same goes for those sinful females as well!

I think its hideous enough the ridiculous and dangerous emphasis most religions hurl at being gay as it can have very dangerous consequences. The believers don't understand and think its something that can be "cured" through worship.

But I suppose I should not be surprised that people can be gay and be Catholic, Anglican or any other gay hating religion, if they can believe in invisible things they can twist the religion to suit themselves.

Philip