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901. Bishop accuses gays of 'conspiracy' against the Catholic Church

Comment #143329 by irate_atheist on March 14, 2008 at 2:37 am

Right. I'm in the mood to party.

This man is a self-confessed homophobic ignoramus who should be prosecuted for behaviour liable to cause a breach of the peace.

The bishop is an individual, who if not in the church, could not be trusted to sweep the streets of a provincial market town.

He is a disgrace to the human species and should be held up as an example of the irrational bigotry he and his kind espouse.

He is - to be blunt - one of life's finest fucktards.

902. Two More Fleas

Comment #143008 by irate_atheist on March 13, 2008 at 10:40 am

153. Comment #143007 by Vadjong -

Argumentum ad ignoratum.

903. Fleabytes

Comment #143000 by irate_atheist on March 13, 2008 at 10:28 am

5069. Comment #142997 by mixmastergaz -

How can you be sure that scripture isn't just an account of the half-remembered fireside tall tales of ancient, semi-literate desert shepherds?
Oh, that's too easy. He has faith. The substitute for thought.

904. Fleabytes

Comment #142989 by irate_atheist on March 13, 2008 at 10:04 am

5062. Comment #142988 by hungarianelephant -

Ah, yes. Valid point, well made. Or a high-ranking politician. Or both. A profession where 'truth' is what you want it to be.

Whispers...Bliar...

905. Fleabytes

Comment #142985 by irate_atheist on March 13, 2008 at 9:53 am

5053. Comment #142974 by al-rawandi -

What do you think, old chap? Is a Hitchens Enema(TM) in order?

906. Fleabytes

Comment #142980 by irate_atheist on March 13, 2008 at 9:45 am

5040. Comment #142956 by clearthinker -

Good grief. What a long way to write 'because I believe so.'

In a way I'm glad you're a vicar. You'd be a downright liability in any other profession.

Just to pull apart the premise behind one single paragraph:

The positivists were never so naive as to suggest that God
could be a scientific hypothesis - they declared the concept of God to be
meaningless precisely because it was not a scientific hypothesis. Dawkins
on the other hand, holds that the presence of absence of a creative
superintelligence is unequivocally a scientific question'. This is the kind
of comment of which we say it is not even wrong!'
What is 'naive' about regarding the existence of a paticular being as not a scientific hypothesis? On what is this bare-faced assertion made? So, David, why do you not believe in Zeus? Or Thor? Or Allah? Or Baal? Or Ganesha? Or any other made up god that you don't happen to believe in? A god made of nothing, having no discernable effect or evidence of existence? And you base your life on this and try to get others to base their lives on it too? Another deity plucked from the ether? Get a grip man, if you possibly can. Which, from the evidence we have seen here, I very much doubt.

907. Two More Fleas

Comment #142967 by irate_atheist on March 13, 2008 at 9:25 am

104. Comment #142679 by clearthinker -

Ignore the whole flea/not flea issue just for a post or two and let's get to the nub of the issue.

David. You, effectively, claim you have a book that is inspired by or written about the supreme creator of, and interferer in, the entire universe. You do your best to - and are paid to - convince others that this is true in fact. Not in some allegorical or metaphorical way. You will say - but some stories are metaphors/allegories etc. - but you have to have a basis to assert this on.

The burden of proof in the original matter rests (rather heavily, I would say) on you.

Saying that 'I needed £80 and not long after a couple of people gave me a total of £80' is not sufficient evidence. Please note the other times that your church was not necessarily desperate for cash and you received a donation. Or the times when you really needed the cash to buy a new bible or two but didn't have enough in the kitty - but you got no special donations for a while.

Saying that 'I think of Jesus, he loves me, so I feel good, so this creator exists' is not sufficient evidence. It is wilful self-delusion and wish fulfilment. Others think of Allah and feel just at peace. Then they blow themselves up or fly planes into buildings. Hardly a recommendation for going by what one 'feels'.

Saying that this passage or that is 'misinterpreted' or 'taken out of context' does not shore up your position. You claim, in effect, the book is about (and inspired by?) this ultimate creator, one would expect - at the very least - a degree of clarity and consistency that is not apparent in the book.

If the book is correct, it was correct then and would therefore be correct now. Such comments that have been made by theists that 'us atheists' will only accept evidence that can be 'reproduced on a lab bench' is hogwash. An example would for me be to write that Winston Churchill drank excessively. If I write it down now it's true. If I wrote it down 40 years ago it would still be true. If I write it down tomorrow it will still be true. We have reliable sources for this information. We have reliable sources that the subject and the source for the information about the subject actually existed. It is not a 'metaphor' or 'open to interpretation' because it is a fact. Not demonstrable on a lab bench, but a fact nonetheless.

With reference to the above, contradictory heresay, third hand writings or biased proselytising material is not sufficient evidence - no matter when it was written. Especially when there is insufficient evidence as to who even put quill to parchment in the first case.

If you went to a court of law and presented a prosecution case based on 'evidence' such as theists - incuding yourself - have produced for the existence of a god or gods, the case would be thrown out of court, most probably along with the prosecuting barrister...

So.

I ask you.

Plainly and simply.

In words that cannot be misinterpreted.

Or even in a phrase 'taken out of context'.

Where's your evidence?

908. The ethics of mixing science and religion

Comment #142937 by irate_atheist on March 13, 2008 at 8:28 am

56. Comment #142924 by Steve Zara -

I am not sure what the right balance is, but I would rather err on the side of keeping religion away from science.
And no pandering to the NOMA crap the 'sophisticated' believers spout either. I am strongly of the opinion that science should stamp on the toes of religion. Religion makes claims, science demonstrates beyond all reasonable doubt that these claims are false. I would guess this is your position also?

909. Fleabytes

Comment #142930 by irate_atheist on March 13, 2008 at 8:12 am

Steve -

Oh, for such luxuries. All we have is a flat stuffed full to the roof with toys. Mind you, it has it's compensations. But on the other hand, listening to 'The Wheels on the Bus' approximately 50 times a day does begin to grate after the 47th repitition.

We do have a view out to the garden. It's just that it's not our garden...

910. Two More Fleas

Comment #142888 by irate_atheist on March 13, 2008 at 7:21 am

129. Comment #142875 by scottishgeologist -

The only reason the Wee Flea likes coming her is so that he can play the victim, play the martyr...
Personally I wish he'd just play with himself.

911. Fleabytes

Comment #142870 by irate_atheist on March 13, 2008 at 6:57 am

4986. Comment #142864 by Steve Zara -

I notice you were too polite to state precisely where my posts would be located. Much appreciated.

912. Fleabytes

Comment #142865 by irate_atheist on March 13, 2008 at 6:47 am

4981. Comment #142858 by Geoff -

Where would a fine brandy, served at slightly over room temperature, stand?
Hopefully somewhere I can reach it without having to stretch.

913. The Salamander's Tale

Comment #142856 by irate_atheist on March 13, 2008 at 6:35 am

683. Comment #142854 by epeeist -

You will now note that he has switched threads
Well, fleas are notoriously good jumpers.

914. The Salamander's Tale

Comment #142849 by irate_atheist on March 13, 2008 at 6:27 am

670. Comment #142286 by clearmind -

I'm constantly amazed the others here are not ruder to you on a more frequent basis. I can only put it down to them being enthralled by studying the output of the world's first known computer literate cunt.

915. Fleabytes

Comment #142833 by irate_atheist on March 13, 2008 at 6:08 am

4960. Comment #142823 by Quetzalcoatl -

As for the money- that was just my little joke. Divine humour.
Ah. Not a literal statement but a metaphorical one. So many followers get confused by this. Heretics.

916. Fleabytes

Comment #142827 by irate_atheist on March 13, 2008 at 6:04 am

4958. Comment #142817 by ForestMist -

irate-atheist - as a child I used to drink hot blackcurrant squash, but have not done that for well over 20 years now - should I be concerned over this behaviour also?
This is covered in The Book where it clearly states: "When I was a child I spoke as a child I understood as a child I thought as a child; but when I became a man I put away childish things."

So, if you are no longer in the habit, you are covered. Children have an automatic get-out clause.

I still maintain that tea, coffee or other drinks manifestly designated as hot beverages are acceptable. Cold lemon tea does pose a problem, however. A theological problem, that is. One we haven't solved yet.

917. Fleabytes

Comment #142808 by irate_atheist on March 13, 2008 at 5:44 am

4943. Comment #142797 by Quetzalcoatl -

You must preach the virtues of both tea and Quetzalcoatl to the masses. And send me money
You're not my Quetzalcoatl. My Quetzalcoatl does not mind what hot beverage his followers drink. I don't believe in a vengeful Quetzalcoatl, but one who nurtures his sheep and has no need of financial inducements.

918. Fleabytes

Comment #142793 by irate_atheist on March 13, 2008 at 5:28 am

4936. Comment #142789 by ForestMist -

I'm feeling very concerned about my heretical thoughts and behaviour re preferring coffee to tea (and, indeed, not even liking tea). Quetzalcoatl - is there any penance I should be doing?
Don't fret. Long discussions have been held on this subject, and apparently Quetz is pleased by either hot beverage. Some of us go even further and suggest that Bovril is also acceptable, but this has lead to a schism into the pre and post- reformation sects. However, I don't myself believe his tolerance extends to hot drinks that should be cold (e.g. orange squash) and will vigorously oppose those who suggest otherwise.

919. Beauty ad banned after Christian outcry

Comment #142764 by irate_atheist on March 13, 2008 at 4:55 am

44. Comment #142762 by Mitchell Gilks -

Ditto.

920. Two More Fleas

Comment #142757 by irate_atheist on March 13, 2008 at 4:50 am

Dear all -

Do you want me to get started.

And if so, on who or what?

Yours faithlessly.

- Irate

921. Beauty ad banned after Christian outcry

Comment #142755 by irate_atheist on March 13, 2008 at 4:43 am

I'm strongly offended by the 'Alpha Course' banners plaster over local lunatic asylums churches.
What the are the ASA going to do about it? Fuck all, I suspect.

922. The ethics of mixing science and religion

Comment #142753 by irate_atheist on March 13, 2008 at 4:40 am

Here's something to ponder: Would you take $1.6 million from an organisation whose motives you didn't agree with?
Not even the right question.

The realquestion is:

Would you take $1.6 million from an organisation whose motives you didn't agree with, if by doing so you furthered their cause?

For moi, the answer to the wrong question is yes, of course, as I could do what I liked with the cash to serve my motives.

The answer to the correct question would be no, now fuck off and find someone with low self-worth to take your filthy lucre.

923. Seven new deadly sins: are you guilty?

Comment #141897 by irate_atheist on March 11, 2008 at 10:44 am

144. Comment #141786 by Peacebeuponme -

Apparently I'm a Level 8 (on honest question answering)

A bit annoyed I'm not a 9, really. My standards of anti-theism must be slipping.

I must call God a prick more often.

924. The Salamander's Tale

Comment #141886 by irate_atheist on March 11, 2008 at 10:20 am

622. Comment #141646 by clearmind -

Dickwad.

925. Fleabytes

Comment #141882 by irate_atheist on March 11, 2008 at 10:15 am

4551. Comment #141876 by epeeist -

So that we create a nice little generation of producer-consumers...who are more stressed and depressed than the previous generation.

926. Fleabytes

Comment #141871 by irate_atheist on March 11, 2008 at 10:02 am

4515. Comment #141828 by epeeist -

If we are sticking fingers in the air, my view would be that it is a good education that leads to atheism rather than just intelligence.
Quite possibly so. My dearly beloved - who could have given wooter a run for his money on a bad day - is now fascinated by such programs as the recent two-parter by Prof. Hawking and even RD's 'Enemies of Reason' series. The more she learns, she less she is fooled by. But the individual has to want to learn and a lot of it comes down to trusting the source of the information. If your entire family and most friends have fed you a diet of ignorance, when someone else challenges that ignorance you won't trust them and will completely disbelieve what they say.

It is now only after several years with a rationalist that she's really grasping reality on a day to day basis. And this is someone with a top Honours degree in mathematics from a solid University. Someone who said that the idea of a 'big bang' was nonsense and that 'order could not come out of chaos' but who is now fascinated by quantum mechanics, M-theory and the possibility of evolved life on other planets.

The damage these people can do to the intelligent - when they are vulnerable - has to be seen to be believed.

927. Fleabytes

Comment #141826 by irate_atheist on March 11, 2008 at 9:01 am

4506. Comment #141815 by fides_et_ratio -

Total bollocks apart from one thing:

As I'm not a scientist...
Which is trivially obvious given the absurdity of the statement you made.

928. The Salamander's Tale

Comment #141352 by irate_atheist on March 10, 2008 at 9:38 am

643. Comment #141339 by wooter -

Wooter. You're so stupid they broke the mould after they made you. In fact, they broke it before they made you.

929. Seven new deadly sins: are you guilty?

Comment #141334 by irate_atheist on March 10, 2008 at 9:28 am

Sorry. Couldn't resist it.

What a bunch of ignorant superstitious self-deluded fucktards they are.

930. The Salamander's Tale

Comment #141332 by irate_atheist on March 10, 2008 at 9:26 am

601. Comment #141261 by wooter -

Smell of being defeated?
The only smell here is the fetid stench of your bullshit laden breath.

931. Oklahoma: One Step from Doom

Comment #141090 by irate_atheist on March 10, 2008 at 2:51 am

I wait to see how this develops.

932. Ben Stein Wins Intelligent Design Money

Comment #140875 by irate_atheist on March 9, 2008 at 12:48 am

What can only be hoped is that a trenchant critical response by journalistic and science publishing institutions (and, of course, the blogging community)--will suffice so that Ben Stein never gets funding to make an Expelled II.
Hmm. Does calling this self-confessed imbecile a 'fucktard' count as a 'trenchant critical response'?

Am I doing enough to stop the forces of ignorance?

Should I be more strident?

933. When blasphemy bit the dust

Comment #140627 by irate_atheist on March 8, 2008 at 4:31 am

26. Comment #140572 by Steve Zara -

The House of Lords has always been a place for strange debates...
Not to mention strange people.

Some good.

Some bad.

Some downright dangerous.

Every single one unelected. (Don't start me on the 'people's peers' bollocks brought in Bliar)

934. Fleabytes

Comment #140423 by irate_atheist on March 7, 2008 at 9:34 am

4094. Comment #140417 by Steve Zara -

I am not out to mock.
I am. As well as harass, badger, humiliate, abuse and insult.

935. Fleabytes

Comment #140406 by irate_atheist on March 7, 2008 at 9:01 am

4084. Comment #140400 by Dr Benway -

It looks like this:

936. The Salamander's Tale

Comment #140373 by irate_atheist on March 7, 2008 at 8:07 am

449. Comment #140246 by Philip1978 -

Pure class.

No response from wooter? Still smelling his own finger, is he?

I guess we'll have to wait and see what he pukes up next time.

937. The Salamander's Tale

Comment #140190 by irate_atheist on March 7, 2008 at 3:32 am

420. Comment #140187 by LorienRyan -

Do you mind? That's my popcorn. Get your own popcorn, zeusdammit.

938. The Salamander's Tale

Comment #140185 by irate_atheist on March 7, 2008 at 3:29 am

413. Comment #140177 by Philip1978 -

See comments 406 - 412 above.

I don't think that too many here will mind...

Edit. Plus 414, 415, 417

939. The Salamander's Tale

Comment #140171 by irate_atheist on March 7, 2008 at 3:08 am

407. Comment #140163 by epeeist -

Only second class. For a first class cunt you would have to nominate god.
In this rare instance I will disagree - but only on practical terms. God does not exist and therefore cannot be a cunt, Wooter does exist and is a cunt.

The motion before the house is: 'Is Wooter a higher ranking cunt than God?'

The debate is now open to the floor.

;-)

940. The Salamander's Tale

Comment #140161 by irate_atheist on March 7, 2008 at 2:50 am

388. Comment #139880 by wooter -

To Philip
(why your God does this to innocent people)

We cannot put ourselves into the position of questioning since we are all blesses. We would no be existed but we are. We are so much grateful to God. If some kids are born with sicknesses, this is the test for their parent that they can pass by patience and prayers. Sicknesses are the times as we have to pray. This is a kind of the same question why do you give him more money? And it is the same question that we ask in our junior college, why do we have a test? Can I skip the test and get the diploma without having a test?

The parents who lose their kids at very early age will be rewarded in paradise to be together with their kids forever.
Wooter, you are - and I use the word advisedly - a cunt.

941. The Salamander's Tale

Comment #140158 by irate_atheist on March 7, 2008 at 2:41 am

387. Comment #139878 by wooter -

To reverend and irate
(What is your highest level of qualification incorporating Thermodynamics?)
Right until the second law of thermodynamics;
I note you haven't actually answered my question and have posted ignorant dribble instead.

Compared to Steve Zara, Dr. Benway and Epeeist I regard myself as a somewhat less intelligent and less educated individual. Nonetheless, I am of the opinion that my Masters Degree in Engineering Scicnes from Cambridge does still count for something. When it comes to Thermodynamics, Wooter, I know what I'm talking about. By contrast, you, and the wilfully ignorant dunderheads you quote, wouldn't even know the difference between entropy and enthalpy.

Go away and spend 4 years getting a degree in the subject and then perhaps you'll have a clue what you're talking about. Just don't ask for a reference from me, you ignorant prick.

942. Lords Approve Abolition Of Blasphemy

Comment #140142 by irate_atheist on March 7, 2008 at 2:15 am

It's a start.

Now for the abolition of the House of Lords, please.

They have no more right to sit in the legislature than my postman. In fact, I'd rather have my postman than a lot of these imbeciles, he's a sensible decent kind of chap.

I do not suggest for a moment that the learned professor, who is professor of philosophical studies at Oxford
So - going to apologise to the House for making a misleading statement, are we, Lord Elystan-Morgan? Anachronistic, ignorant, decrepit old fucktard.

943. Crossing the Divide

Comment #140137 by irate_atheist on March 7, 2008 at 2:01 am

47. Comment #140122 by epeeist -

When I'm buried, I want to to be stuck in a hole in the ground in a nearby forest. No vicars (except for close relations and friends) allowed

This plan has the added bonus that it may give the local coppers something to worry about for a change.


Haw Haw Haw.

944. Church exhumes Padre Pio

Comment #139595 by irate_atheist on March 6, 2008 at 7:15 am

73. Comment #139589 by jimbob -

Scientists want to exhume Galileo, but the church is against it -- saying it would be "disrespectful."
Disrespectful? And since when did this bunch of retards actually 'respect' Galileo. Far more recently than the Scientific community.

Bunch of pricks.

945. The Salamander's Tale

Comment #139594 by irate_atheist on March 6, 2008 at 7:12 am

I will deal with correspondance in turn.

369. Comment #139586 by Mitchell Gilks -

And what about the other 80% of the fairies that don't exist. What do they do?


371. Comment #139588 by The Reverend Dark -

Apology accepted. Please drink more Tea(TM).

372. Comment #139591 by vijikumar -

Fascinating. Worthy of a thread of it's own here. You may want to submit it to Josh. An interesting discussion would ensue, I'm sure.

xxx. Any comment by Wooter -

Fucktard.

946. The Salamander's Tale

Comment #139585 by irate_atheist on March 6, 2008 at 6:44 am

367. Comment #139569 by The Reverend Dark -

As you might have noticed, everyone here has been oh so patient with you
I hope I haven't. I will be disappointed if you think I have, Reverend.

947. The Salamander's Tale

Comment #139566 by irate_atheist on March 6, 2008 at 5:10 am

365. Comment #139565 by Mitchell Gilks -

You poor unfortunate man.

May Quetz have mercy on your Dover Sole.

948. The Salamander's Tale

Comment #139560 by irate_atheist on March 6, 2008 at 4:52 am

362. Comment #139558 by Roland_F -

Hmm...but is that how old he thinks it is?

(I'm not giving any concessions to our turd in residence. He must explicitly state what he believes. None of this 'let's say' business...)

949. Fleabytes

Comment #139557 by irate_atheist on March 6, 2008 at 4:48 am

3689. Comment #139525 by vijikumar -

Welcome to the asylum. Where the inmates really have taken over.

950. The Salamander's Tale

Comment #139556 by irate_atheist on March 6, 2008 at 4:44 am

Comment #139551 by Steve Zara -

Do you think Wooters reproduce?

One can but hope not.

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