901. 'Gospel of wealth' facing scrutiny

Comment #104246 by annabanana on December 28, 2007 at 7:47 am

Diacanu,

At first, the taxation of churches problem seems like a Catch-22, but I don't think it is.

The constitution provides that no religion should be specially recognized, so to give them tax exempt status is somehow recognizing them if they aren't actually doing anything "helpful" with their charity money. So to tax them would be to treat them no differently without making a special pocket for them. And as far as taxation without representation goes, well that's why they can vote for theocrats all they want to.

As far as these people being gullible, stupid, or whatever other insulting adjective you want to use, I think it's a bit harsh. Most people here in the Bible Belt give money to church every sunday that they attend. They may not give to the point of breaking their bank, but they do give and it is a social norm. Breaking social norms is harder than you might think. I mean, wearing clothes is a social norm. Think about how exposed and weird you would feel walking around without your clothes on. I don't think not giving to church would feel that extreme, but you get my point.

902. Wisdom From The Founding Rationalists

Comment #104229 by annabanana on December 28, 2007 at 7:06 am

I am disgusted to hear people simply dismiss the voices of reason of our Founding Fathers. Certainly, there are flaws in every form of government and abuse of power in one form or another is hard to prevent, but to simply dismiss the transcendental wisdom of the fathers on these grounds is terribly ignorant. Please go back to U.S. History and American Lit. and brush up a bit, then try again.

Also, saying that the U.S. is more or less "free" than other countries that have many freedoms (like those in Europe and Australia) is silly. Please let me know when you have devised some sort of formula or device for measuring the exact degree of freedom and then we'll talk.

903. New journal to target education in evolution

Comment #104213 by annabanana on December 28, 2007 at 5:50 am

dlitt, I suppose that a basic understanding of evolution can provide some epiphanies and is somewhat satisfactory, but I just remember going through all of the kingdoms and clades in my zoology class and literally learning about how we got to where we are now (of course not the exact pathways). Learning all that really solidified evolution for me. I actually wouldn't mind continuing my education in evolutionary biology. Anyone in here want a bright, young, Ph.D. student? RD, maybe (I can only dream!)?

904. New journal to target education in evolution

Comment #103984 by annabanana on December 27, 2007 at 12:45 pm

ok, where to start

First, this issue is probably one that most easily invokes emotion for me, for some reason. I'm assuming it has something to do with me having a degree in biology, but at any rate, I'm extremely glad to see that there's a journal now, however haphazard the first issue may have been. Speaking of haphazard, this article might fit that definition.

Secondly, Serious, I don't suggest getting some sort of watered-down, simplified version of evolution as that's why people are confused in the first place. My zoology professor taught evolution the entire semester, and I still don't feel like I know everything. I think it would be the equivalent of trying to learn some over-simplified version of the theory of relativity; it really just wouldn't do much good. I'll go home and retrieve the name of the wonderful text we had if you're interested.

Thirdly, Ron Paul would have the states run it however they like and he thinks that's what the constitution intended. People have tried to convince me that it doesn't matter what his personal views are and that if the states wanted to be particularly religiously oriented, that was their right, but not to worry because it will never happen. However, I refuse to vote for someone who wouldn't have a problem with religion taking over or Roe v. Wade being overturned.

Dr. Paul also said that being and ob/GYN, he had never known of a case where a woman needed an abortion to save her life (because he personally doesn't believe in abortion). Apparently, he hasn't been doing a good job of keeping up with conditions that would be cause for abortion, because there are plenty...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thrombotic_thrombocytopenic_purpura

905. Man and God

Comment #103923 by annabanana on December 27, 2007 at 10:25 am

Paula,

In case you've been cataloging, I was brought up a liberal Lutheran. I think my mom is actually more of a theist or a deist b/c she doesn't believe in the myths of the Bible, so she raised me to question everything. Eventually, there were just too many unanswerable questions and too many mental acrobatics to be done in order for me to maintain my faith. This was definitely strengthened by my college education where courses on history, evolution, and Biblical religion led me to completely abandon every last shred of belief I had left. The nail in the coffin, so to speak, was TGD. Before that I was just kind of dangling in agnosticism.

The article mentioned Hitch which reminded me that the debate between Hitch and D'souza was on cspan the other night and they totally were displaying D'souza's credentials as well as books at the end of the program and absolutely as little as possible about Hitch. This made me thoroughly annoyed. Did anyone else notice this?

Btw, this article is one of the worst articles I've even seen. The author gave a completely half-hearted, unresearched attempt at presenting the "other side". What ridiculousness? Not to mention, how in Hades can he/she assert that the atheist arguments are not rational??!!! WTF, there's no arguing against such a moron.

906. The Pagan Christ

Comment #102016 by annabanana on December 21, 2007 at 11:55 am

junklight,

That isn't a very good refutation...there were a good many stories written about King Arthur, but evidence indicates that even if the stories were based on an actual person, the guy definitely got romanticized. Couldn't this be the case with Jesus?

Also, has anyone ever read the Russian Lit. book, The Master and Margarita, where the devil tells the "true" story of Jesus being followed around by an idiot scribe who kept misquoting him despite Jesus' protesting? Anyway, it's hilarious.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_master_and_margarita

907. Religious Freedom in Military Questioned

Comment #101969 by annabanana on December 21, 2007 at 10:09 am

zbob and Dr Benway,

Thanks very much, I may well check it out. I didn't realize Kurt Vonnegut was a member. I LOVE his books.

There's a decent cycling community that I'm a part of around here...which is why I prefer spandex and shaved legs...but many of them are still Christian or at least nominally so, even if fairly liberal.

Btw, shaved legs and spandex don't necessarily indicate drag! I mean cyclists are all the rage in Europe...haven't y'all (I'll show my southern side with that word) heard of Tom Boonen? Americans...Lance Armstrong?

And Brian, what's wrong with the care bear stare?!

908. Good God! A politician who doesn't believe...

Comment #101914 by annabanana on December 21, 2007 at 6:43 am

Edit- I was replying to Vaal, and forgot to say so...I don't think I had enough Red Bull this morning...

Even though there are a lot of religious nuts floating around here in the states, I'm pretty sure that would be considered a potentially discriminatory question, and thus illegal...

909. Religious Freedom in Military Questioned

Comment #101903 by annabanana on December 21, 2007 at 6:08 am

Hey, zbob, what is the UU? I don't know of this...I was hoping to find some other atheists in town...

And yes, Hot guy + uniform=VERY HOT...

erm...I really like the cycling uniforms, though, you know...spandex and shaved legs?!

910. Religious Freedom in Military Questioned

Comment #101582 by annabanana on December 20, 2007 at 2:29 pm

Brian AGREED!

Thanks for all the "old-fashioned sexist" advice, though, it could prove to be quite useful.

I'm thinking, though, that even though the male/female relationships with respect to one another stuff may be true on some level, that he's having a really hard time letting go of that last bit of what he grew up with. He has a pretty decent relationship with his parents and even though they don't know he's a deist, I'm sure that he feels that they would accept that much more readily than atheism and he doesn't want to chance it since he loves them.

Incidentally, they were the couple in the military that I was speaking of earlier...

Another think that's he's taken hold of is RD speaking against faith schools because my bf was home-schooled by his uber Christian parents and he thinks on some level "well, I went through a Christian education ad I turned out ok, so it must be ok". He also he feels that it violates the parents right to choose how they educate their children (obviously he is not convinced by the child abuse argument since he doesn't feel that he was abused).

911. Religious Freedom in Military Questioned

Comment #101547 by annabanana on December 20, 2007 at 1:52 pm

Thanks for all of the encouragement/advice, everyone! I will certainly keep my man-crushing abilities to myself...

Also, FightingFalcon, thank you for serving our country! We are in need of rational, objective people like you in our military! I hope that nothing I said was offensive to you...if it was, I apologize and assure you that I was only addressing those Fundamentalist Christians who spend their time proselytizing the other soldiers. Maybe eventually you won't have to hide your atheism any longer if cases like this are won.

912. Religious Freedom in Military Questioned

Comment #101525 by annabanana on December 20, 2007 at 1:29 pm

Comment #101522 by USA_Limey

Hahaha! I wish someone other than me would tell him that!

913. Interview with Richard Dawkins: On Christmas

Comment #101521 by annabanana on December 20, 2007 at 1:26 pm

Well, I'm not sure to what extent some people would react, but I'm certainly not entirely comfortable going around proclaiming my atheism and neither is my roommate. I suppose it's possible I'm being pessimistic and the reactions wouldn't be as bad as I think they will...but my roommate and I have both joked that we can't tell anyone for fear that our house will be vandalized...

The most liberal with their views that I've run into around here, it seems are the agnostics...

914. Religious Freedom in Military Questioned

Comment #101520 by annabanana on December 20, 2007 at 1:21 pm

Comment #101516 by Dr Benway

He thinks we're militaristic and dogmatic and he's pissed b/c RD said "deism is just sexed up atheism" in TGD...

Overall, I think it's more a power struggle between the two of us?

915. Religious Freedom in Military Questioned

Comment #101519 by annabanana on December 20, 2007 at 1:19 pm

Actually, his parents don't even know that he's a deist, they'll most likely flip and quit speaking to him for a while when they find out.

I know I was being pessimistic, I'm sure there are a few others, but around here, everyone is uber scared of admitting it because of the possible consequences...maybe I should start a group...

916. Interview with Richard Dawkins: On Christmas

Comment #101512 by annabanana on December 20, 2007 at 1:13 pm

Richard Morgan,

Thanks for the assumption that I am naive. I will take that as a compliment as I am young still, and am enjoying being so.

I still, however, will have to disagree with you that this is a war. Even if I didn't enjoy singing carols and going to mass at xmas (for the music only), I live in the "Bible Belt" of the US and would quite possibly be persecuted (and rejected by those whom I love and cherish) if certain people found out that I am an atheist and as much as I want the atheist movement to change the world and make the carols truly meaningless, I am not about to be a "martyr" for atheism (seeing as how I only have this one life).

I understand your point that what we are essentially "fighting" against cannot be taken trivially just because we enjoy it, so know that I am conscious and deliberate in my actions and thoughts. I was merely presenting an alternative way of looking at things, however simple-minded you may have thought it to be.

917. Religious Freedom in Military Questioned

Comment #101499 by annabanana on December 20, 2007 at 12:57 pm

Well, I'm an atheist cyclist...but he's a deist cyclist...I meant...oh nevermind...

I think my roommate and I are the only atheists in the whole city we live in...

918. Religious Freedom in Military Questioned

Comment #101498 by annabanana on December 20, 2007 at 12:55 pm

Diacanu, I totally agree, but going from still holding onto god (if nothing else) to letting go of god is probably the hardest step of being "deconverted"

Also, he was raised in a pretty conservatively (if not fundamentalist) Christian household, so he's come a long way as it is.

919. Religious Freedom in Military Questioned

Comment #101495 by annabanana on December 20, 2007 at 12:50 pm

Lol @ AllanW...He hasn't drawn me any graphs yet...maybe I'll ask...

And thanks for the encouragement Diacanu, but I don't know if he'll ever budge...anyone know any atheist cyclists? j/k...

920. Religious Freedom in Military Questioned

Comment #101488 by annabanana on December 20, 2007 at 12:36 pm

USA_Limey,

Not to worry, we debate quite a bit...I only wish that he thought the things I say are "smart" (he's an economist and I'm a biologist, what is one to do?). Thank you for the compliment, though.

He's a deist...and he's insisted that I musn't try and deconvert him lest he break up with me...

921. Interview with Richard Dawkins: On Christmas

Comment #101479 by annabanana on December 20, 2007 at 12:21 pm

Not to completely butt in, but I think that self-deprivation is a good thing in some cases, bad in others. It's a good thing not to indulge in endless amounts a mars bars (to go back to the diet analogy) because it is detrimental to your physical and mental health.

To me, I enjoy singing carols and participating in Xmas mass even though I'm an atheist. So in that respect, I think it would be unhealthy for me to deprive myself of participating in these things that I enjoy and are only of *possible, (and maybe even insignificant) harm to the atheistic cause(s). Therefore, I will not cause myself any mental anguish by not being able to participate in mostly harmless things that I enjoy.

To carry on with analogies, I don't quit cycling just because I could be hit by a car and I don't quit caroling just because some Christian might mistake me for a Christian.

922. This Is Not a Test

Comment #101463 by annabanana on December 20, 2007 at 11:50 am

Diacanu,

I agree with your response to Dreamer's Dilemma...although, even though I've been told that I cuss like a sailor, I'm not sure even I would have used that many curse words ;-)...

923. Religious Freedom in Military Questioned

Comment #101448 by annabanana on December 20, 2007 at 11:24 am

Hahaha,

USA_Limey, I probably would be more addicted if it weren't for my boyfriend (who isn't an atheist and is sometimes offended by the things on here) so I have to get my "fix" while I'm at work...which hopefully won't get me in trouble!

924. Three wise men just legend: archbishop

Comment #101446 by annabanana on December 20, 2007 at 11:21 am

Ducklike,

Yes that's it! I was wondering if you caught the religious undertones of the SNL skit, quite brilliant!

925. Three wise men just legend: archbishop

Comment #101437 by annabanana on December 20, 2007 at 11:11 am

Yes, yes, Ducklike, haven't you heard of the Gospel of Saint Land Shark which didn't make it into the final Cannon? It's there alongside the Gospel of Mary Magdalene. I can't for the life of me understand why this much more plausible account of Jesus was excluded from the New Testament in favor of the four that are in there now...

926. Whale 'missing link' discovered

Comment #101430 by annabanana on December 20, 2007 at 11:04 am

Hahaha is "smote" actually the past tense of smite? And for those interested in the clades, etc. of the indohyus, wikipedia has some good info. I looked it up yesterday after I read about this on Reuters.

Btw, I think the Reuters article is better than this one. Incidentally, it's indoHyus, not indoNyus...

927. Three wise men just legend: archbishop

Comment #101411 by annabanana on December 20, 2007 at 10:22 am

Paula,

I'm sure they aren't, but it's a good laugh to think about it.

I did actually see a documentary on TV once where some scientist/doctor (I don't remember) was suggesting that it would have actually been possible for Mary to have been a hermaphrodite making the virgin birth possible (yes another one of those let's start with a conclusion people). I do remember more vividly, however, the responses I got when I talked to people about this and they were not pleasant responses ;)

928. Three wise men just legend: archbishop

Comment #101346 by annabanana on December 20, 2007 at 9:03 am

Thanks for that robert s, I didn't realize that they were always female, though, now that I think about it, duh! Ok, so maybe Jesus was a woman, then...haha...

929. Three wise men just legend: archbishop

Comment #101338 by annabanana on December 20, 2007 at 8:53 am

So the guiding star tale is a myth because, "stars don't behave like that", but he believes in the virgin birth, even though human reproduction doesn't behave like that.

930. Religious Freedom in Military Questioned

Comment #101318 by annabanana on December 20, 2007 at 8:16 am

Yikes! I went home for the day and started a whole debate that I wasn't there for!

Firstly, thanks Styrer for your defense of my comments.

Ok, just to clarify USA_Limey, I said that it was unfortunate that Ann Coulter could go on making whatever remarks she likes because I think it's unfortunate that someone would be able (in their own conscience) to make such deplorable remarks, especially publicly. That doesn't mean that I want her right to free speech taken away (and Styrer, I don't think anyone takes her seriously enough to be incited to commit murder). I am a huge supporter of the First Amendment and would never want any restrictions placed on our freedoms of speech. However, as stated before, I believe there are enough laws in place that (like the ones that have convicted Charles Manson) when someone directly causes a crime to be (even if only with words) committed that they can be prosecuted and convicted. If your right to free speech infringes on someone else's basic human rights (like living), then that right is null. And I'm not really a supporter of Hate speech laws because I don't really trust ANYONE to be able to come up with a good enough definition of Hate speech to be able to protect our freedom of speech. The problem arises when you've got a defendant with endless means to buy the best defense attorney who knows how to manipulate the system, but that's a whole other can of worms.

When I said that Ron Paul was a constitutionalist, I mean that he is a constitutionalist in that he wants the Federal Gov't to be fairly small and local gov'ts like the states to hold most of the power. Also, despite his Christian views and his views on abortion, I think he actually does a good job on separating his personal views from what the people have voted on. Or in other words, he wants the people to hold the power, despite what he thinks. I do think, though, that he thinks that as a nation with a Christian majority that voters will all pretty much align with his views, which may or may not be the case. The problem with giving the states more power is that the more conservative ones will do ridiculous things with their power (like Alabama holding on to segregation for as long as absolutely possible) and doing things like overturning Roe v. Wade and causing unnecessary deaths among women who would try at-home abortions and other such barbaric methods.

As for the Military using Fundamental Christian religion to its own ends, well of course it does, but the soldiers should be able to decide for what reason they want to die for their country, not have it dictated to or brainwashed into them! I really sincerely hope that this case does not get thrown out and that it is won. That would be a huge step in the right direction.

931. Jesus ad angers church groups

Comment #100843 by annabanana on December 19, 2007 at 12:43 pm

blasphememe,

Hahaha! I did actually ask my boyfriend if he was going to get me a teddy bear named Muhammed for the winter solstice celebration, aka Xmas...

932. Religious Freedom in Military Questioned

Comment #100832 by annabanana on December 19, 2007 at 12:14 pm

Quill,

I read that essay as well and was deeply disturbed by it...

933. Religious Freedom in Military Questioned

Comment #100831 by annabanana on December 19, 2007 at 12:13 pm

Styrer,

I think there was a proposal for a law against hate speech, but I don't know what it's status is. I do know that Hitch opposes it, though.

Even though Ann Coulter is a complete eyesore on the Republican Party, I think even most Republicans find her disgusting and no one actually takes her very seriously. I've often wondered if she's actually a liberal democrat (the American kind) saying all this ridiculous rubbish in the name of the Republican Party just to undermine them...but that's just my conspiracy theory for the day...

934. Religious Freedom in Military Questioned

Comment #100816 by annabanana on December 19, 2007 at 11:36 am

USA_Limey -

Don't forget that Ron Paul is quite Christian himself...he is certainly a "constitutionalist", but he has let his Christian views influence certain things like his views on abortion and the overturning of Roe v. Wade...

Styrer -

We have free speech, so unfortunately, Ann Coulter can go on saying whatever she wants and she did say this along with a lot of other hateful, inciteful, inhumanely gross things...

935. Jesus ad angers church groups

Comment #100814 by annabanana on December 19, 2007 at 11:30 am

cowalker,

Don't forget the free *teddy bear that you get when you spend X amount...by the way, I'm sure you can guess what this teddy bear's name is :)

936. Religious Freedom in Military Questioned

Comment #100796 by annabanana on December 19, 2007 at 10:46 am

Diacanu,

Well, that too, I suppose...it just seems ridiculous for many, many reasons, that the military would try and deny it's Christian affiliations and motivations...I guess I was just pointing out one of those many reasons...

I know of at least one couple who went into the military not particularly religious and came out Fundamentalist Christian, if that tells you anything.

937. Religious Freedom in Military Questioned

Comment #100790 by annabanana on December 19, 2007 at 10:36 am

If the military is supposed to "respect and value" all religions, why then, do they have Christian Chapels in Forts, and no other religious places of worship for other religions?

Fort Jackson is here, where I live, I should have suspected as much...

938. Borders Tags Atheist Book with 'O Come All Ye Faithless' Cards

Comment #100209 by annabanana on December 18, 2007 at 11:38 am

"I think the atheists will love it because it's bashing Christians around the head. It's another thing to take a Christian festival and abuse it."

939. Believe it or not

Comment #97557 by annabanana on December 12, 2007 at 10:52 am

I think this was a great article. Those who are not atheists, I think, would be more accepting of this type of criticism rather than criticism about Romney's speech that sounds like it's coming from an atheist (whether it actually is or not). It might actually cause some people to *use their brains and think that maybe leaving us out is wrong.

I think its time for the american people to stop caring so much about religion in politics when its really supposed to have no bearing on any decisions made by the government.

940. Functional Neuroimaging of Belief, Disbelief, and Uncertainty

Comment #97488 by annabanana on December 12, 2007 at 7:30 am

<3 ahahahaha, you guys make me laugh.

By the way, if you type <3 on facebook it will actually appear as a little black heart.

Anyone remember this one --%--@ ?

941. Former Evangelical Minister Has a New Message: Jesus Hearts Darwin

Comment #95070 by annabanana on December 7, 2007 at 9:39 am

hmmm...ok, well I just saw PZ's post, on second thought, maybe I should read the book before deciding whether it's a step in the right direction or not....

942. Former Evangelical Minister Has a New Message: Jesus Hearts Darwin

Comment #95068 by annabanana on December 7, 2007 at 9:37 am

To me, this guy is a good thing. Anything to take a step in the right direction, especially from someone "credible" to the fundamental audience, is a good thing, in my opinion. Hopefully, as previous posters said, religions will adapt themselves out of existence, but until then, things like this are quite valuable.

943. Evolution Debate Led to Ouster, Official Says

Comment #93913 by annabanana on December 4, 2007 at 12:51 pm

Thanks for the link Beth,

Just posted this:

Since the Dover Pennsylvania case found Intelligent Design to be non-scientific and constitutionally unfit to be taught in schools by a judge appointed by George W. Bush, the forced resignation of Ms. Comer is not only deplorable, but also most likely illegal. Since ID has been deemed unscientific in federal court, please explain what reason you had to fire her and why and how she should take any other position on this religion masquerading as a theory, especially as an educator in the know. I will be awaiting the news that Ms. Comer has been reinstated on the grounds that there were no grounds to have her dismissed in the first place.

944. Poll finds more Americans believe in devil than Darwin

Comment #92378 by annabanana on November 30, 2007 at 11:39 am

Thanks for the suggestion oxytocin, but I think I'd be a bit too cold in Canada. I also think the same might be true for the UK, but I may consider it.

Also, Phasmagigas, I think you're being very harsh with the stereotype you're creating in your hypothetical dialogue. I can think of two people right off the top of my head who are creationists, but pretty intelligent (other than the creationist part, of course). One is a veterinarian and the other one of the brightest electrical engineers I've ever met. Both of them are armed with the argument that radiometric dating can't be counted on, etc. These arguments hold slightly more water than those like "the Bible says so". If everyone that were a creationist were simply undereducated, our problem would be far simpler, but unfortunately there are a good many of that percentage that are actually educated. How do we change their minds?

945. Poll finds more Americans believe in devil than Darwin

Comment #92325 by annabanana on November 30, 2007 at 9:47 am

Ok, I'm well aware that statistical data can be strongly manipulated and that this "sample" of the population could be an erroneous sampling for various reasons...BUT...it still makes me want to cry!

Does anyone over there in the U.K. want to put me up while I find a job and place to live? I don't think I can stand this country any longer.

946. Papal encyclical attacks atheism, lauds hope

Comment #92321 by annabanana on November 30, 2007 at 9:36 am

"We have all witnessed the way in which progress, in the wrong hands, can become and has indeed become a terrifying progress in evil. If technical progress is not matched by corresponding progress in man's ethical formation, in man's inner growth, then it is not progress at all, but a threat for man and for the world,"

947. My life under a fatwa

Comment #91537 by annabanana on November 28, 2007 at 2:14 pm

Please FK and Brian, can we give it a rest??? Please? Just agree to disagree or something...

948. Golden Compass author hits back

Comment #91413 by annabanana on November 28, 2007 at 8:55 am

Thanks, epeeist, I wish that I could make a fuss, but I'm still in my first probationary year and I have bills to pay...but maybe next year...of course, I don't think I'll make much headway. I'm in the "bible belt".

949. Turkey probes atheist's 'God' book

Comment #91379 by annabanana on November 28, 2007 at 7:35 am

This is quite ridiculous and I'm sure RD is pretty upset about it as well and will do whatever he can to help his Turkish publisher. I can't believe things like this (first Ayaan, now this) still happen. I also can't believe that the US dropped the Armenian genocide issue among others, to remain allies with a government that is so backwards. Shame on us.

950. Golden Compass author hits back

Comment #91372 by annabanana on November 28, 2007 at 7:23 am

I certainly don't know of any Catholics who support the views of Mr. Donohue, who always seems to be invited onto CNN when more reasonable Christian leaders fail to take the bait (chocolate Jesus statue, anyone?)

The movie The Golden Compass comes out December 7, 2007 and stars Nicole Kidman.

This comes directly off Snopes.com- Go the web site for more details.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/compass.asp


There will be a new Children's movie out in December called The Golden Compass. It is written by Phillip Pullman, a proud atheist who belongs to secular humanist societies. He hates C.S. Lewis' Chronical's of Narnia and has written a trilogy to show the other side. The movie has been dumbed down to fool kids and their parents in the hope that they will buy his trilogy where in the end the children kill God and everyone can do as they please.

NOW let's do OUR part and get this out to as many people as we can...DO NOT buy his books or go see the movie.

Send this to everyone on your e-mail list...we can and will shut him down...