51. Muslims outraged at police advert featuring cute puppy sitting in policeman's hat

Comment #203960 by Goldy on July 4, 2008 at 1:38 am

You forgot DG, Brandydrunk.
You still voted GWB in :-)
And your next president will be religious too :-)

52. Muslims outraged at police advert featuring cute puppy sitting in policeman's hat

Comment #203957 by Goldy on July 4, 2008 at 1:35 am

Aaaaah. Drunk.

53. Muslims outraged at police advert featuring cute puppy sitting in policeman's hat

Comment #203953 by Goldy on July 4, 2008 at 1:30 am

Wow, atheists who enjoy paying tithes to an old lady they believe has sacred ovaries who bore a son with god-ordained testes? WTF

Errr, wow, atheists who voted in a Born Again Christian who lead them to seemingly another Vietnam? WTF
Idiot.

54. Muslims outraged at police advert featuring cute puppy sitting in policeman's hat

Comment #203952 by Goldy on July 4, 2008 at 1:28 am

Never any pleasing some, Mordacious1. Have you read the comments? Cracking, they are!
Had a squint through Brandysnap's past comments. A rather unhealthy fascination with the monarchy - and I believe his/her nationality makes it completely irrelevant... Odd.

55. Muslims outraged at police advert featuring cute puppy sitting in policeman's hat

Comment #203947 by Goldy on July 4, 2008 at 1:22 am

I'm including the times he's asked in the past, before this latest round of clarification-seeking.

Aaaah. Persistent chap, our Steve. Or optimistic...

Ask the Defender of Faith with the sacred ovaries to explain my post.

No, you said it. You explain.

56. Former state science director sues over intelligent design e-mail

Comment #203944 by Goldy on July 4, 2008 at 1:19 am

You know, alcohol is a great muscle relaxer for your back, so pick up plenty on your way home.

Third beer now - Ngahere Gold, an NZ brew. 7%. Boy, am I relaxed! Gonna hurt in the morning with all this relaxing... hic!

57. Muslims outraged at police advert featuring cute puppy sitting in policeman's hat

Comment #203940 by Goldy on July 4, 2008 at 1:17 am

Apathy, maybe Brandysnap thought the cute puppy in the picture is a corgi...

58. Muslims outraged at police advert featuring cute puppy sitting in policeman's hat

Comment #203939 by Goldy on July 4, 2008 at 1:15 am

How about evolution, as Steve has asked about twenty-five times by now?

I believe this is the 10th time. I think - might have missed some due to the time difference...

59. Muslims outraged at police advert featuring cute puppy sitting in policeman's hat

Comment #203937 by Goldy on July 4, 2008 at 1:14 am

And the Brits like to accuse the Americans of having the religious nuts! Goddamn the Queen.

GODdamn the Queen? You one of them religious nuts? Bet you voted for Bush...

60. Muslims outraged at police advert featuring cute puppy sitting in policeman's hat

Comment #203929 by Goldy on July 4, 2008 at 12:50 am

Fanusi
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/muslims-feel-like-jews-of-europe-859978.html

61. Richard Dawkins on Doctor Who

Comment #203923 by Goldy on July 4, 2008 at 12:29 am

Alcohol dehydrogenase deficiency. Not really denigrating...

62. Richard Dawkins on Doctor Who

Comment #203912 by Goldy on July 3, 2008 at 11:20 pm

Most Hong Kongers I know are good girls - one even a mass going Catholic. Well, good, until they joined our lab...and found out about beer...
Yep, you're right! Swearing is a past time! No abbreviations either! And man can they sink a pint! Except our current PhD student - half my age, half my weight and twice the drinker! Her preferred is single malt whisky!

63. Muslims outraged at police advert featuring cute puppy sitting in policeman's hat

Comment #203911 by Goldy on July 3, 2008 at 11:16 pm

As regards the question of why the article was posted here perhaps you can enlighten me? Maybe there is a burning interest in Dundee on RD net or just maybe this was seen as another opportunity to remind the followers how Islam is stupid/evil and therefore all religion is stupid/evil? You tell me....

You can hop off that high horse there, matey. Quite a few atheists have asked the same question...

64. New Zealand man sells his soul to 'Hell'

Comment #203907 by Goldy on July 3, 2008 at 11:07 pm

Maybe I should try your pizzas sometime, perhaps you could put some up on trademe!

Hmmmmm,...strokes chin in a thinking manner...
Actaully, pizza is piss easy to make. No magic involved - have a go!

65. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #203906 by Goldy on July 3, 2008 at 11:00 pm

Aventinus. It's about 8%

66. Richard Dawkins on Doctor Who

Comment #203905 by Goldy on July 3, 2008 at 10:58 pm

And Wooter, could you let me know what it is you are trying to say? I am completely lost...

67. Richard Dawkins on Doctor Who

Comment #203902 by Goldy on July 3, 2008 at 10:55 pm

Chinese people never swear, aren't they?

Chinese people never swear, DON'T they. Sorry for the correction.
And no, they swear. Wife even says fuck a lot now. Might be my fault... ;-)

68. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #203897 by Goldy on July 3, 2008 at 10:49 pm

Well, if txty hurries up, I might be able to slow a bit more :-)
One down, 3 to go...

69. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #203892 by Goldy on July 3, 2008 at 10:43 pm

http://www.arabnews.com/?page=5§ion=0&article=106587&d=8&m=2&y=2008

About Noah, the Floods and Mankind
Adil Salahi, Arab News

Q. We know that Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) was sent to all mankind, but was Prophet Noah (peace be upon him) also sent to all mankind? If he was sent as a messenger of God to his own people only, and they refused to accept his message, why was all mankind drowned by the floods that engulfed the whole world? It is said that the whole population of the earth come from his three sons, Ham, Sam and Yafith. Please explain.

S.R. Ali

A. To start with, there are several statements in the Qur'an making clear that Prophet Noah was sent to his own people. He was not a messenger to all mankind. Only Prophet Muhammad was given this task, and therefore, the miracle supporting his message was a book, the Qur'an, outlining a code of living that is suitable to all generations and all communities and environments. Therefore, the question posed by the reader is valid: was the great flood a punishment to all people on earth at the time? If so, why?

In fact, there is no indication or reference in the Qur'an suggesting that the floods overwhelmed the entire planet. The description given in the Qur'an of the flood makes clear that it was of overwhelming proportions, leaving none of the wrongdoers among Noah's people alive. It does not mention other communities. In fact there are several references that it engulfed Noah's own people in particular. Take for example the twice-repeated Qur'anic statement: "Do not appeal to Me on behalf of the wrongdoers. They shall be drowned." (11: 37 & 23: 27) "We saved him together with all those who stood by him, in the ark, and caused those who rejected Our revelations to drown. Surely they were blind people." (7: 64) The contexts in which all these statements occur are very clear in their references to Noah's own community to whom he was required to address his message. Hence we can say that the flood punishment was directed to his own people who rejected his faith, after clear evidence had been given to them, and after their long opposition to his efforts and their repeated hurling of abuse and ridicule on him.

This means that other communities to whom Noah's message was not addressed were not involved in these events.

There is no reason to suppose otherwise. This means that those communities either received other messages, about which the Qur'an remained silent, or they were not at the time receiving any message. In either case, their fate would be determined by their circumstances. We need not go into this because we have no means to establish such historical events with any reasonable measure.

Nor can we say that all people living today are descendents of Noah through his three sons. To start with, there were other people saved in the Ark. These could have had children of their own and they would have descendents. Moreover, We cannot establish with any degree of certainty that Noah had three sons. Indeed, it is practically impossible to ascertain that Sam ever existed, which casts doubt on the very idea of Semitism.

Whether such things are established or not is of no importance. What is important is to rely only on what God says in the Qur'an and what the Prophet has taught in his authentic Sunnah. This is what ensures our salvation in the life to come.

As we all kow, the Koran is the last word of God, as revealed to Mohammed, the last prophet. This, in the best Microsoft tradition, replaces but is not compatible with all previous revelations.
And now, txty, you are going to tell us it is wrong. But please, don't forget, we need evidence, not hearsay or personal opinions. A referenced 500 word essay should suffice.
I'm at home, I have a Schneider weisse right now, with a Fuller's 1845 to follow, then a Harrington's Ngahere Gold and finally a Schneider's Aventinus. I have all night :-)

70. Former state science director sues over intelligent design e-mail

Comment #203875 by Goldy on July 3, 2008 at 9:32 pm

Waaaaaahahahahahahahahah! Should ask Txtpiper that! He's on the Lying for Jesus thread again :-)
I'm off home - catch you all later!

71. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #203873 by Goldy on July 3, 2008 at 9:30 pm

Have a beer for me Goldy. :)

Just one? ;-)
I will. Have a great weekend. My family comes back from China so I may not be as frequent here as I have been of recent.

72. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #203868 by Goldy on July 3, 2008 at 9:25 pm

Ooooh, txty, just for you :-)
http://www.creationism.org/symposium/symp3no2.htm
See, we rational scientists aren't that bad, eh?

Israel is very much like the soft tissue in the T rex. It shouldn't be there.

But, and here's the kicker, they both are.
On that note, off home for me via an establishment for purchasing of fermented beverages.
TTFN!

Edit - sorry can't help myself

Plus, I just can't see thousands of hadrosaurs just wandering into a river delta and being silted over.

http://stix1972.typepad.com/stix_blog/images/2007/10/02/071001wildebeest_big.jpg
Now use a bit of imagination...

73. Science is thrilling - except in our schools

Comment #203866 by Goldy on July 3, 2008 at 9:21 pm

Well, bugger me, you're right! That would make climbing easier! *Sound of Steve's bionic legs making their tsh tsh tsh noise*

74. Former state science director sues over intelligent design e-mail

Comment #203863 by Goldy on July 3, 2008 at 9:18 pm

:-) Now there's a good question!

75. Science is thrilling - except in our schools

Comment #203857 by Goldy on July 3, 2008 at 8:51 pm

Personally, I loved science. It's why I continued along that avenue rather than history and English. I did chemistry for A level because of the benzene ring :-)
What was the alternative? Ummm...maybe something like this http://www.creationism.org/articles/index.htm (Friday jokes ;-))

76. Former state science director sues over intelligent design e-mail

Comment #203855 by Goldy on July 3, 2008 at 8:45 pm

Mord, I am in awe at people's militant ignorance sometimes.
Been googling...well, it is Friday, LCMS is chugging away nicely and I'm just waiting to go home. Found this
http://www.creationism.org/csshs/v06n2p04.htm
Brilliant!

77. Former state science director sues over intelligent design e-mail

Comment #203848 by Goldy on July 3, 2008 at 8:24 pm

Talking of ID...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/northamerica/usa/2240349/Creation-Museum-Among-the-believers.html
The comments are to die for! Here's one

17. Posted by Geoffrey on July 04, 2008 12:52 AM
I am shocked by the rudeness and intolerance displayed by evolutionists against christians in these posts. Evolution is definitely not a harmless theory. The Nazi's used it to justify the extermination of the Jews. Abortion and euthanasia are all practical outcomes from its 'survival of the fittest' law and, as you can see from the posts, it produces an intolerance in those who hold to it today. Whereas the christian message is that we should protect the weak and the vulnerable. The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple.

Oh, OK, here's another ;-)

1. Posted by John on July 04, 2008 03:48 AM
Yikes! It seems this article has hit a raw nerve with some! Evolutionists really seem to hate anyone who questions their religion. Sorry, their worldview. Evolution has been taught as fact for decades in our schools with an astonishingly religious zeal, well supported by the mainstream media, and yet still more than half the population ask why there is not a shred of evidence to support it? Perhaps it is because those who are really prepared to look beyond "what everyone knows, stoopid!" realise that evolutionary theory just doesn't work. It is impossible mathematically, physically and biologically. From philosophical viewpoint it is self-contradictory. Sadly, those who refuse to look past the end of their noses will continue to deny it until just after their dying day.

78. Former state science director sues over intelligent design e-mail

Comment #203844 by Goldy on July 3, 2008 at 8:07 pm

Faithhead, I believe ID was described as cretinism in a cheap suit. They are the same thing. Calling God the "designer" doesn't make it any less cretinist.
And no, those are not typos...

79. Muslims outraged at police advert featuring cute puppy sitting in policeman's hat

Comment #203824 by Goldy on July 3, 2008 at 6:02 pm

And...
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/muslims-feel-like-jews-of-europe-859978.html

Muslims feel like 'Jews of Europe'

The related links are
The enemy within? Fear of Islam: Britain's new disease and
Sharia law 'coming to Britain' but you'll have to get them from the main article as I am computerly challenged....

Seems like you can smile a tad, Fanusi ;-)

Edit - here are the comments regarding the above article
http://blogs.independent.co.uk/openhouse/2008/07/have-your-say-m.html#comments

80. Muslims outraged at police advert featuring cute puppy sitting in policeman's hat

Comment #203822 by Goldy on July 3, 2008 at 5:53 pm

Tine to stoke them embers...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/2242340/Muslims-in-Britain-should-be-able-to-live-under-Sharia-law,-says-top-judge.html

Muslims in Britain should be able to live under Sharia law, says top judge

Fancy putting this one on, Josh?

81. New Zealand man sells his soul to 'Hell'

Comment #203804 by Goldy on July 3, 2008 at 4:21 pm

Aaaah, TradeMe :-) Because of this site and that, I get no work done. I particularly liked the stick that was on sale once - similar to the one used by Moses to part the Red Sea (sea parting properties not guaranteed).
Got a roman blind on sale in TradeMe, if anyone is interested.
And I was particularly underwhelmed by Hell pizzas. I make better...

82. Mormons urged to back ban on same-sex marriage

Comment #203802 by Goldy on July 3, 2008 at 4:18 pm

Apathy, my wife loves it and I'll admit a pint is a bit yummy after mowing the lawn. It is a tad pricey, mind...

83. Muslims outraged at police advert featuring cute puppy sitting in policeman's hat

Comment #203797 by Goldy on July 3, 2008 at 3:49 pm

However that does not justify the reason that this article was posted here - to a) stigmatise all muslims (most Muslims in Dundee have been horrified at Asifs stupidity) and b) stigmatise all religoius people (and thus justify atheism).

I think you'll find, if you read the comments, a very large proportion of contributers actually didn't stigmatise the Muslims (not something the Wee Frees are entirely innocent of, I'll wager) but actually condemend the article for biased and inflammatory reporting. I know, I was one.
We don't need to stigmatise all religious people - that's, as I believe, a Catholic thing ;-)

84. Mormons urged to back ban on same-sex marriage

Comment #203796 by Goldy on July 3, 2008 at 3:46 pm

My local pub sells a lovely german beer which is my favorite at the moment, it's called Paulaner - anyone else had it?

Beer of choice n Shanghai - had it in a bar in Pudong. Oddly, despite living but a mere hours drive from Musnich when in Austria (the family home) I have never had it there. We drink Zipfer which I see has made the shelves in NZ. Or Goesser (spelt with an umlaut), again, available in NZ :-)

Gr8hands

You know, Robert O'Brien, you write like a first year college student with a penchant for wikipedia and a thesaurus.

That old? I put him at between 16 to 19. He sounded very 6th form to me...

85. Muslims outraged at police advert featuring cute puppy sitting in policeman's hat

Comment #203495 by Goldy on July 3, 2008 at 3:06 am

Yeah but, Hungarianelephant, which is more exotic? There's tourism to think about - and they have to try and get away from Torremolinos to get the better quality of tourist ;-)

86. Muslims outraged at police advert featuring cute puppy sitting in policeman's hat

Comment #203473 by Goldy on July 3, 2008 at 2:09 am

There's a very strange cultural attitude in parts of Southern Spain. The way they tell their history, nothing of interest has happened since the reconquista in 1492

We're talking about 700 years of southern Spanish history - are you sure they want to whitewash it? Besides, it's exotic - need to pull in the tourists....make those EU funded roads worth the expense! (Been there, BTW. Great - leave the resort as soon as you land and enjoy the landscape! And the hams, ooooooh! Heaven!!)

Leosia

I was fed up with paying 40% of my salary in tax to provide for free accommodation and benefits to muslims to breed and a further 11% NIC tax to provide for their healthcare and children's education.

Knowing the UK, pretty much piss all of your tax went to them and more went to more worthy causes, like MPs wages, roads, weaponry (you did know the UK was one of the big boys in weapon sales?). Have to ask...do you read the Mail?

87. Muslims outraged at police advert featuring cute puppy sitting in policeman's hat

Comment #203456 by Goldy on July 3, 2008 at 12:50 am

Mordacious1 - meant to ask - how's your kid? Things settled down yet?

Balach

Gosh, these people are more fundamentalists and extreme than the muslims in pakistan

That's the probelm when people leave their comfort zone - they over compensate! Bit like Brits here...I mean, I have never had so much gin before! Don't even like the stuff, but as an ex-Brit in NZ, I feel culturally bound...hic!

88. Muslims outraged at police advert featuring cute puppy sitting in policeman's hat

Comment #203451 by Goldy on July 3, 2008 at 12:41 am

Mordacious1

Your back is still out?

Sure is. And this is a 2 year problem too. Was sitting in a beanbag, daughter crawled towards me and I picked her up. Pain!!! Generally it's fine, but small things trigger it every so often. Soul destroying!
Fanusi, Fanusi, Fanusi...

True, Goldy but the problem isn't the Wahabis - it's Islam itself. Mainstream, orthodox Islam is an abomination.

As regards Islamic art, come on. If you look at that google image search, you find a couple of mosques, some arab writing, and, surprise surprise, a bunch of guys with rocket launchers.

Islam really hasn't produced anything new or original. The Mosque design they are so proud of is just copied from Byzantine cathedrals. "Arabic numerals" and the Zero originated in India.

Islam is just a religion. A nasty one in the grand scheme of things, but just a religion. What were all Muslims before Mo popped out? We're talking of the same people here - they are no different from their ancestors and most see Islam the same way their ancestors saw their religion. At least, the ones I worked with in Syria did. Change will come - all religions wax and wane. We don't have to kill them ;-)
As for original art - apart from Lascaux etc, what is original art? So what if their art isn't original? Neither is Christian art. Or Hindu (well, amybe some of it is - it is the oldest religion, after all). The fact is that that art is recognisably Islamic - it is derived from and earlier age (and they respected the past - I read the Kingdom of Rhum named itself after Rome). Islam didn't place barbarism on it's adherents - people did that and fairly recently. As for the rocket launchers, shall I google some Northern Ireland murals for you?
The religion is barbaric - but the people are pliable. Islam will die out. So will Christianity. OK, maybe not die out fully, but it will be a tiny minority religion, like Nestorianism. Muslims, in my experience, can change. If they couldn't, apostasy would not be a problem, but it is. Blame the Quran, Islam and the religion, but don't angle your hatred at the people. They just follow the religion....in many cases very badly.

89. Muslims outraged at police advert featuring cute puppy sitting in policeman's hat

Comment #203373 by Goldy on July 2, 2008 at 6:21 pm

Taj Mahal also springs to mind...
Samarkand
http://images.google.co.nz/images?um=1&hl=en&q=islamic samarkand
No shortage of Islamic art.

Not all Muslims are wahabis

In December 2004, Jordan's King Abdallah warned of a "Shia crescent" from Lebanon to Iraq to Iran that would destabilize the entire region. Iraq's Shias had demonstrated against Jordan in the past, condemning the country for its steady trickle of suicide bombers who crossed into Iraq to commit atrocities against Shia civilians. In September 2005, Saudi Foreign Minister Saud Al Faisal warned that a civil war in Iraq would destabilize the entire region and complained that the Americans had handed Iraq over to Iran. In response, Iraqi Interior Minister Bayan Jabr called the Saudi foreign minister a "Bedouin riding a camel" and described Saudi Arabia as a one-family dictatorship. Jabr, who had commanded the Badr corps, also condemned Saudi human-rights abuses - particularly the repression of Saudi Arabia's approximately two million Shias - and he mocked Saudi Arabia's treatment of its women.

From http://bostonreview.net/BR31.2/rosen.php

90. Help protest against misguided report on UK faith schools

Comment #203372 by Goldy on July 2, 2008 at 6:16 pm

Letters in the Independent

Faith schools and a free society

Yasmin Alibhai-Brown (30 June) is right that religion should not be allowed to make ghettos. Cristina Odone's report on faith schools, published by the Centre for Policy Studies, misses the point. The point of is not that faith schools have discriminatory admission codes and employment practices, cream-skim pupils, or turn away children in care, although they do. Rather, what makes faith schools fundamentally bad for children is that they are more concerned with the inclusion of religion â€" the religion of the child's parents â€" than the inclusion, wellbeing and educational needs of the child.

According to Ms Odone, Islamic schools are crucial to the emancipation of girls because they give parents the confidence to keep them in school for longer. But relegating girls to Islamic schools where they are indoctrinated in their parents' beliefs, segregated on the basis of sex (imagine how unacceptable this would be if it was based on race), veiled, prevented from mixing and playing with boys, prevented from doing sports, dancing and so on is anything but.

In Islamic schools students are taught to despise unbelievers, and to hold males and females as unequal.

Ibrahim Lawson, headteacher of Nottingham Islamia School, clearly states their main purpose: "The essential purpose of the Islamia school, as with all Islamic schools, is to inculcate profound religious belief in the children." Education, however, is meant to give children access to science, reason and advances of the 21st century. It is meant to level the playing field irrespective of and despite the family the child is born into. It is meant to allow children to think freely and critically â€" something that religion actually prohibits and often punishes. Contrary to Ms Odone's claims, this can only be guaranteed by a secular educational system.

Until children are given precedence over their parents' religion, the Government, with its commitment to faith schools, will continue to fail them.

Maryam Namazie

Spokesperson, Council of Ex-Muslims of Britain, London WC1

Yasmin Alibhai-Brown in her columns has continually and laudably called for the protection of personal freedom. Yet she reacts to the publication of the recent report into faith schools by calling on the Government to refuse to facilitate parents with a faith in passing on that faith to their children.

Where does Yasmin stand? Where do we stand as a society? Do we respect freedom to pass on a faith and also the time-honoured principle that parents have primary responsibility for their children? Or are we in fact backing the approach adopted by totalitarian regimes that the children belong first to the state?

In 1937, Hitler said, "The youth of today is ever the people of tomorrow. For this reason we have set before ourselves the task of inoculating our youth with the spirit of this community of the people at a very early age, at an age when human beings are still unperverted and therefore unspoiled. This Reich stands, and it is building itself up for the future, upon its youth. And this new Reich will give its youth to no one, but will itself take youth and give to youth its own education and its own upbringing."

Chilling words, which were never more timely.

Karen Rodgers

Cambridge

91. Muslims outraged at police advert featuring cute puppy sitting in policeman's hat

Comment #203368 by Goldy on July 2, 2008 at 6:01 pm

Why does islam hate beauty - the reason is simple, their faith strips them of any knowledge of beauty outside of the Koran.

http://www.lacma.org/islamic_art/intro.htm

Where are all the mediaeval murals in English churches?
http://www.sacred-destinations.com/england/oddington-st-nicholas-church.htm

92. Muslims outraged at police advert featuring cute puppy sitting in policeman's hat

Comment #203340 by Goldy on July 2, 2008 at 4:31 pm

Vinelectric

Forget about people being manipulated by trash journalism, we know what they're like. This is not supposed to be a tabloid forum. Or is it?

If I can educate just one person, if I can get just one person to think before putting finger to keyboard, I'll feel better.
I have learnt soooo much being here. I really think the way I see things has improved. It annoys me to see journo-trash manipulating so easily. I will not forget about people being manipulate - I have to show them. This is a clear-thinking oasis - it is. And it can remian so only by diligence and application of clear thinking.
Otherwise we could end up like some non-believing wooter or Robert O'Brien.

Brian, I think I'd like that drink now!

93. Muslims outraged at police advert featuring cute puppy sitting in policeman's hat

Comment #203335 by Goldy on July 2, 2008 at 4:23 pm

Like I said, decius, I feel a bit down. Nothing like a damn sore back to suck the will to live out of a person! Do you know how much one contorts to wipe and arse? I need a poo but I'm too scared to go!
We worry about how a tiny minority react to something by reading an inflammatory headline - I mean, look at it. "Muslims outraged" - like all of them?? "Cute puppy" - what sort of journalism is that? Not all Muslims are that cowed - they weren't in Syria, anyway. Or Iran - mullahs accept money to fuck off and let the party carry on. Might even accept a bottle of scotch.
What is worrying is a headline like this
"Obama Wants to Expand Role of Religious Groups"
Why the fuck does religion have anything to do with the running of a country?

8teist - don't tell me there's another flu here! Wife and daughter come back after 3 weeks in China - I want to enjoy them, not lie in bed!! Aaaargh!!!!

94. Muslims outraged at police advert featuring cute puppy sitting in policeman's hat

Comment #203326 by Goldy on July 2, 2008 at 4:14 pm

8teist - yeah, I know. Just that people are being manipulated by the authors of this piece of trash journalism. Playing right into the hands of those wanting a real "clash of civilisations".
At the risk of sounding like a right wingeing Pom, that's another peeve of mine! :-D
And my ears are blocked, my back hurts and I have to use some piece of equipment tomorrow that has the longest waiting list and truckies are going to block Auckland (along with other major cities) so I might miss that window.

And TP, just be a bit less belliegerent - just today. Please. I feel crappy, I want to enjoy some time here and don't need the confrontation. Cheers, mate.

95. Muslims outraged at police advert featuring cute puppy sitting in policeman's hat

Comment #203324 by Goldy on July 2, 2008 at 4:10 pm

I am glad to learn that there is such thing as an Arab atheist left. Last time that I checked they were being executed for apostasy.

A bit stereotypical, mate. There are quite a few communists in the Arab world who do not believe in gods. There's actually quite a few who believe in gods like most European Christians do. There are a lot that don't believe in gods - I know, I worked with them. Your comments are akin to us Euros saying all Yanks are bible bashing cretinist YEC IDiots.
Shall we just count to 10, take a deep breath and not let the initial emotions get the better of our minds?

96. Muslims outraged at police advert featuring cute puppy sitting in policeman's hat

Comment #203319 by Goldy on July 2, 2008 at 4:03 pm

Comment #203292 by GoodbyeGodNZ
Mate, that's a bit harsh and uncalled for. The doctor that delivered my kid was an Iraqi. I know Arabs here in the Uni who don't particularly give a shit about religion. In North Shore there is a Coptic Christian church - normally full of Arabs.
Most of the convered Muslims I know here are Malaysian or Indonesian. The Muslims in this case are Pakistani and it appears only one said anything. All the others are just rolling their eyes and waiting for the ill informed backlash from the great unwashed whiteys out there who just read the headlines.

8teist - you don't have the cooking channel on Sky? Keith Floyd is great - love the way he gets pissed as he cooks. All chefs should be like him :-)

97. Muslims outraged at police advert featuring cute puppy sitting in policeman's hat

Comment #203283 by Goldy on July 2, 2008 at 3:01 pm

LAst Indian I saw was Canadian. Think his name was Lundberg or something (long time ago - he was an engineer that came out to Syria to put out a fire at a well head). Blue eyes, very blond hair...

98. Muslims outraged at police advert featuring cute puppy sitting in policeman's hat

Comment #203280 by Goldy on July 2, 2008 at 3:00 pm

Typical Mail trash. Part of the demonisation of immigrants of predominantly different race who happen to practise the religion in question I'll bet. Shame they don't do the stories of the white outraged readers of their rag - white Christians outraged at youths or outraged Christians demand black poice officer reassigned.
Why is this article here?

99. Can't Darwin and God get along?

Comment #202774 by Goldy on July 2, 2008 at 12:53 am

Philip, the little muffin was a bit rude and petulant to me too. And he tried to tell me Judaism has its roots in the Iron Age, bless! When pointed out that the roots of the mythology was firmly in the Bronze Age and earlier, he told me that some J character wrote the Pentateuch in the Iron Age...such schoolboy logic :-)
He's conpletely confused about his religion too - he's going through puberty. I think the Robert O'Brien referred to by others as having a blog is a different character. This one is too infantile to be that one! :-)

100. Can't Darwin and God get along?

Comment #202763 by Goldy on July 2, 2008 at 12:21 am

Ah I see a genius who got banned from other sites has now turned up to vomit lyrically about his incredible knowledge!

Aw, c'mon, Phil et al! Give him a wee chance. I'll admit to being a bit snotty with him on the Mormon thread, but I have a serious backache (never, ever, pick up a 6 month old up while lying on a beanbag!) and my ears are plugged - left has no hearing and right is filling up :-( Bubba, sorry for that!
I don't know - he has a rather large head and an ego inversely proportional to his intelligence but I thikn he's just a kid. C'mon, admit it, you know he sounds like some spotty 6th former (d they still have a 6th form?) who has read a book or two. The use of Greek just reminded me of my mate at school who was doing classical Greek...
As it is, he is as confused as a teenager. Ask him about his religion. He calls it Christianity but he can't accept the doctrine that defines it. Give him a year or two and he'll become a Buddhist.
If he is older than 18, I worry for him - most would have grown out of that stage by now ;-) Maybe he's still spotty - I was and, like him, I over-compensated too...