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Comment #74488 by Yorker on September 29, 2007 at 5:40 am

126. Comment #74484 by Matt7895

Get real. You charge what the market will accept, if people are happy to pay $100, that's what you charge.

All efforts need funding, I've never been to a free Richard Dawkins event, have you? Personally, I wouldn't pay £10 ($20) to see him on the web, but some people will, look at how much they spend on silly sports events and air-headed celebrity shows!

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Comment #74486 by Yorker on September 29, 2007 at 5:31 am

106. Comment #74444 by dlitt

Glad to hear it's not just Veronique and myself who actually do something locally. I find the exact same thing you do, the elder religites are simply too scared to budge, rational debate involving science and philosophy is a big no-no. I live quite close to Edinburgh where Hume first broke the stranglehold of the kirk, but 65% of the people I asked had never heard of Hume. Many of the young people are atheistic already, a few see me as an oddity because I'm not what they expect - an old guy who thinks as they do.

Several months ago I was invited to a local youth-club hall to speak informally about atheism and music. Naturally, I wanted to endear myself to them so I took my e-kit gear and gave them a demo of big-band jazz drumming, I followed that up with a little talk on the merits of grand opera and Ludo, my favourite composer. After that the atheism section was cut short by the audience who simply said they didn't need convincing there was no God.

A very enjoyable and uplifting experience, it recharged my conviction that we must win with the young.

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Comment #74431 by Yorker on September 28, 2007 at 7:28 pm

99. Comment #74428 by Mitchell Gilks

"Looks like Yorker is the biggest atheist here"

Pay heed to your own first sentence, how can my non-belief be BIGGER than anyone elses? That sounds like religite talk!

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Comment #74430 by Yorker on September 28, 2007 at 7:23 pm

94. Comment #74422 by eXcommunicate

"I would wager the approach of Dawkins, Harris, etcetera has won more converts than RRS screaming their heads off on an overrated obscure webcast."

Forgot to add this to my last post but I'd take that bet.

The RRS dress and behave in a way that clearly has won them a large following among young people, a wise, not stupid move. I don't think you can deny that.

Now, take a look at last year's BB conference and you'll see that Dawkins and Harris both met with stiff resistance and that was from fellow atheists! No religite in the room showed any sign of conversion. Now take a look at the book reviews on this site and count the number of pro versus con Dawkins there are, take a look at the number of negative articles also then tell me if you think they've made a lot of converts among those people who are supposed to be the educated elite.

Not a very promising response is it? We certainly assail the detractors but it doesn't change the results.

Now I'll make you a wager, I predict that not a single conversion will take place at this year's BB conference either, irrespective of dress code.

Talking logically against the folly of religion has been tried for hundreds of years, it doesn't work. A strong reason it doesn't work is that politicians don't want it to work, they love religion, it keeps people in order and facilitates manipulation; this is well understood. Boringly, I must repeat that political action is the only way forward.

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Comment #74427 by Yorker on September 28, 2007 at 6:46 pm

94. Comment #74422 by eXcommunicate

"But imagine how seriously Dawkins would be taken if he showed up at seminars, conferences, and public lectures dressed in a grass skirt and wicker hat"

Take a look at the home page; not quite a grass skirt but not far off. If I'm not mistaken he was taken pretty seriously.

If he were Scots he could wear a grass kilt, very fetching!

You sound a bit old-fashioned, collars and ties mean nothing nowadays, they are uncool.

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Comment #74424 by Yorker on September 28, 2007 at 6:37 pm

91. Comment #74417 by Corylus

Hazel

I appreciate your conciliatory tone and perhaps some more information would help you understand.

Most people here write from inexperience, they've had no direct dealings with strong fundies, perhaps some RRS members have. When I say strong fundies I mean armed religious freaks who form themselves into militia groups. I once tried to converse in a scientific and philisophical way to such a group in Southern Indiana, believe me, they don't want to hear that, "science crap" is anti-Jesus. They made it perfectly clear to me that anyone saying anything against Jesus was liable to meet with an shooting accident. Events like that kinda alter your viewpoint and maybe that's one reason I strongly support the RRS who fight those crazy fanatics. But it's not the only reason; we need them and since Dawkins et al clearly support them, such unity is obviously wise.

Remember also that Brian and his crew are still quite young, they're behaving in a perfectly natural way, that's why I suggested we give them a break. Some people seem incapable of doing that.

One more thing, mind your bum on the barbed wire. :)

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Comment #74416 by Yorker on September 28, 2007 at 4:45 pm

Teratornis

I just took a look at that wiki link, a logical fallacy; its a perfect fit for one or two people here!

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Comment #74388 by Yorker on September 28, 2007 at 11:46 am

Veronique

Is that your name I see up there on the RRS site? I think it must be so let me be the first (perhaps only) person from this site to congratulate and applaud you on that $500 donation you made. Very generous of you.

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Comment #74386 by Yorker on September 28, 2007 at 11:39 am

82. Comment #74375 by steve99

Well, perhaps there's hope for you yet as you now agree there's at least a revolution! Dawkins has made a very cautious start but the "coming out " idea was a step in the right direction. If he, Harris, Dennett etc. pooled their resources, funded and led a powerful movement, then they would probably do better than the RRS, and of course the RRS would probably just join them as I would since it would make me happy.

But somehow I don't see that happening in the near future if ever; we can't wait forever so in the meantime the RRS is all we've got and we need them badly.

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Comment #74370 by Yorker on September 28, 2007 at 9:55 am

Benway

Nah, you got it wrong; you credit me with cleverness that wasn't there, I simply explained why lions and many predators are the way they are. If I need to defend the RRS I just do it, no need to hide behind metaphor, I guess my method wasn't clear to you. But if growl you want; Grrr, Grrr.

3legcat

Clearly there is a cause but if you wish no representation that's fine, in any case we haven't reached the stage of forming a political party yet so no need to worry about joining the wrong one!

I'm sure the RRS feels they represent at least a section of atheistic America, mostly young people but that's the way its always been. Revolution always starts with the young while many older people try to urge restraint and caution, I am one of these older people but happily only in years, not in mind.

Most RRS members will be here after I and quite a few others here will be dead, if the young want to start an atheist revolution I will back them and won't worry too much about how they do it.

If this revolution succeeds it will be like all others have been, those who decried the workers will be hypocrtical enough to partake of the fruits of their labour. I think you can bet on that.

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Comment #74332 by Yorker on September 28, 2007 at 6:52 am

65. Comment #74329 by d4m14n

"You don't like the RRS? Fine. YouTube atheists absolutely love 'em, and quite frankly that audience is a damn sight more important than all the coffee house philosopher atheists, which this site attracts."

I'm in a hurry but couldn't resist. I'm sure you're right, they're also a lot more numerous and more willing to get off their arse and do something and guess what? They actually give money! How many wankers here could say that?

Look at the picture, that's a $1620 check the RRS gave to the RDF, not the other way around. They support this site, you bastards should be ashamed of yourselves!

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Comment #74328 by Yorker on September 28, 2007 at 6:42 am

62. Comment #74323 by the great teapot

"Leave the RRS alone you nit picking bastards"

HaHa, nice one and an apt description, even I didn't stoop that low! I'm amazed some ineffectual barbs haven't been hurled at you, it's more likely they'll aim at me now for saying this. Hilarious!

IloveLucy

I wouldn't worry if I were you, they probably won't see you as a threat. As for being hard enough, if your avatar is anything to go by I wouldn't want to meet you on a dark night. :)

Steve99

You're clearly hurting, was it something I said? :)

Anyhow, I have much to do today but would grab the AAI webcast if I could get a link, does anyone know more?

Oh, one last thing, anyone know what happened to Wee Flea? I want to go join his church. Now I see why the religites think we are a bunch of wankers, although perhaps they would use the term masturbators. But then Jesus loved fishermen so maybe it would be master-baiters!

*Loud voice from on high*

"YORKER, SPEAK YE NOT SO, THY JOKE IS LOST ON THE HUMOURLESS FUCKS HERE!"

"Yes Boss, I know...sorry, I forgot, please forgive me"

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Comment #74312 by Yorker on September 28, 2007 at 5:20 am

53. Comment #74306 by steve99

Steve, I hate to say it but I think you're talking shit here, for some reason you just can't accept that people you don't like are standing up for a cause that you seem to want to be part of but won't actually do anything about.

Incindentally, need I remind you what PZ Myers had to say about some people here? You can't see that knowledgeable as these men you mentioned undoubtedly are isn't the issue here! They have a lot more to lose that you I suspect, but do I see distancing on their part? No, I see support!

Why do you think that is Steve? Could it be they're smart enough to see as I and Zamboro have, that ANY fucking effort is better than NONE!

Give it up! You lost on this one!

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Comment #74311 by Yorker on September 28, 2007 at 5:02 am

52. Comment #74303 by v4ri4bl3

And you sound like you have some personal jealousy issue with the RRS having won RD's support which is destroying your objectivity.

Keep in mind that you are just one person, they most likely don't give a shit that you don't like them.

Your last point leads me to think you're one of those who don't understand that self-criticism without positive action is just destructive.

If there's anything I've learned from years of managing creative people and getting results, it's that keeping people "on their toes" means nothing unless the intent is to support and achieve. Any other motive makes it a fucking stupid idea.

There's a guy named Gates who made billions because he understood that.

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Comment #74302 by Yorker on September 28, 2007 at 4:37 am

Zamboro

I haven't seen you before, perhaps you are new.

There are people here who simply don't want to see an atheist cause succeed, they value useless independence more. And I'm not referring to Steve99 who is generally a reasonable guy; he just won't let this one go which I find exasperating so I'll say no more on it, nothing more needs said.

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Comment #74297 by Yorker on September 28, 2007 at 4:25 am

47. Comment #74291 by steve99

"These people were not forced to do what they are doing. They are self-appointed. It is their choice, and as such, it is entirely fair for them to be subject to reasonable criticism."

Fair? What's fair got to do with it? Of course it's fair to criticise them, it's just not helpful, as I said, I think it's worse than useless. If you want to be helpful, DO something!

What is difficult about this? Effort makes things happen, the RRS are applying effort, at this stage effort is what's required. Intellectual discussion on the value or worth of atheism will no doubt continue but will be completely ineffectual without action. Those of us who do nothing are of no value at all to a politically motivated atheist cause, even if the RRS were a group of complete idiots they'd still be streets ahead of anyone who does nothing!

As a worse case scenario it's better to be ridiculed, laughed at and be recognised than to be wise, unheard of, ignored and trodden on. So, in the absence of better action the RRS can do no wrong, for fucks sake give them a break, they're learning, how would any smart-ass here do by tackling such an enormous task without experience? These guys are breaking new ground they need our support and encouragement not snooty-nosed superior judgement.

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Comment #74290 by Yorker on September 28, 2007 at 3:49 am

44. Comment #74282 by Zamboro

"That's a great mentality for strangling monarchies, dictatorships and theocracies in the crib. It's a terrible mentality for effecting political change when you're already fighting an uphill battle."

Well said! I have been plugging (some would say nagging) the political point here for some time now and it pleases me to see another clear thinker who understands the value and power to be gained from unity.

It needs to be rammed home: to achieve a common goal, personal interests and feelings sometimes have to take a back seat. Those who can't handle that don't have to accept it but whining about others who actually DO something is not helpful, it's worse than useless. Whether some here like it or not, this RDF has taken a politically motivated step that I for one approve of, those who don't approve will just have to lump it!

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Comment #74285 by Yorker on September 28, 2007 at 3:33 am

38. Comment #74213 by A-Random-Mutation

"I mean they would scare even more people if they were dressed like a bunch of Hot Shot NY Lawyers"

Yes indeed! It's hard to trust lawyers but I'd be more amenable to one in a tee shirt instead of a suit any day!

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Comment #74278 by Yorker on September 28, 2007 at 3:20 am

42. Comment #74270 by steve99

"...lions also practise infanticide, especially when a new leader takes over the pack...."

That's correct, and for them it's exactly the right thing to do otherwise they would have went extinct long ago.

But they are not alone, many animals do the same thing and we humans would probably do likewise were it not for the following fact.

In many species females are not sexually receptive most of the time, the only way a male can fulfill his Darwinian imperative to spread his genes is to kill the cubs of other males. Not having cubs to look after, forces females into oestrus and mating can take place. Male lions are extremely tolerant of their own cubs and will defend them to the death, indeed, defence of his pride females and cubs, is the main duty of the male lion. That's why females allow him to sleep and screw most of the time, they do most of the hunting but he eats first because his strength is most important overall.

As I mentioned earlier, this is true of many species but not humans. Like most primates our females are sexually receptive all the time (or at least they're supposed to be...:) and I wonder what the world would be like if they behaved as lions do?

Veronique, I don't know if I understand you better than most but I certainly value your attitude, humanity and kindliness. I'm impressed by your willingness to lend material to others so they can perhaps learn, I do similarly but not to the extent you do. You are to be commended, would that more were like you.

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Comment #74189 by Yorker on September 27, 2007 at 3:45 pm

32 & 35 Comments #74156 by eXcommunicate

First, RD is not God and wears a tee shirt himself sometimes, if he was irked because he didn't like the RRS dress code, he would be a jerk.

Second, for you to guess at Dawkins motives re the RRS is foolhardy to say the least, perhaps even insulting to RD and the RRS.

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Comment #74137 by Yorker on September 27, 2007 at 11:31 am

24. Comment #73918 by walk

Here's a true story that might amuse you.

One day as a young man I was walking down the street with a friend who in typical young man fashion, said;

"Look across the street at what's coming, is she worth it or not?"

I had already seen the very attractive girl approaching so I said:

"She's certainly very nice"

"Very nice!" he replied incredulously, "You mean you wouldn't do her?"

"Not a chance", said I.

"Why not?", said he.

"Because she's my sister", said I.

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Comment #74133 by Yorker on September 27, 2007 at 11:13 am

27. Comment #74113 by _J_

Historical evidence shows the Roman use of lions and other predators in the arena was largely unsuccessful. The noise and general activity spooked the animals and they refused to attack in many cases. This was deemed to be the fault of the beast-master who paid with his life for such failure, it got so bad one was better off being a Christian than a beast-master!

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Comment #74129 by Yorker on September 27, 2007 at 11:02 am

23. Comment #74100 by Ilovelucy

Ok on the removal, that's fair enough.

Yes, I used the lions as an illustration that some cats will form into groups we call prides and allow themselves to be herded for the common good; lions fit the bill.

So, in reply to J, (forgive me skipping the hideous underscores) that type of cunning is not in me. Had such a thought occurred to me I would have rejected it because it's not true that lions herd wildebeest or any other prey, in fact they do the opposite; they try to break up a herd and single out an individual.

So, there we are, I just thought the lion example was a nice simple refutation of the "cats can't be herded" dictum.

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Comment #74097 by Yorker on September 27, 2007 at 8:18 am

20. Comment #74089 by Ilovelucy

You could try the Serengeti or the Masai Mara. They don't migrate but a herd of them running at you is a terrifying experience I can assure you!

On your comment #21

Although you didn't say so, I guess you're referring to me.

I'm not "at war" either but I chose that description because many young people see it that way and "soldiers" are the term we use for people fighting wars!

"...white middle class adolescents moping into their webcams."

If, as you say, they have your support, why use the above description clearly meant to diminish?

I agree with you on the Burmese, another group who've "herded" together in a common cause. I have no desire to call you anything other than supporter or at least sympathiser.

Now I must literally fly!

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Comment #74067 by Yorker on September 27, 2007 at 6:32 am

16. Comment #74044 by steve99

"I don't think that is entirely fair"

I think it is.

I understand your worry about "foot in mouth" blunders but you place too much importance on it. Not everyone is as capable as you are or would like them to be, sometimes saying nothing is the worst thing to do, as history has shown time and again.

Your rightly deserved equality status as a gay person was won by people who rose up and did something and yet were criticised by their fellows. I know this for a fact because my youngest brother is gay and he did some criticising!

So I don't criticise the RRS because I'm not in a position to do something better than them.

EDIT: Shit! All these lions are starting to scare me. :)

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Comment #74062 by Yorker on September 27, 2007 at 6:14 am

9. Comment #73998 by steve99

"One of the main reasons for religious belief is lack of education and understanding of scientific arguments."

No, it's a very minor reason I think. Otherwise how do you account for devout religites who are also scientists and evidently well educated?

You place to much emphasis upon science; I like it too, but know that scientific knowledge is not a prerequisite for atheism. I've said before, the average person in the street is our main ally, plain common sense is needed to win them over, not intellectualism.

Indoctrination from childhood is the reason most people, RD and myself included, would call the main one.

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Comment #74053 by Yorker on September 27, 2007 at 6:02 am

8. Comment #73975 by Ilovelucy

Yes, Hitchens is more eloquent and well-educated but he also bends the truth a little and stretches facts to the point of tearing, as many here have already noticed.

Even RD is not above bending things a little to strengthen a point. Over the past year I have monitored with some care the goings-on here, it's there for all to see. My point is not to denigrate Dawkins but to show that no-one is perfect, including the RRS, I reiterate: they are doing something, that is what's important.

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Comment #74043 by Yorker on September 27, 2007 at 5:47 am

3. Comment #73963 by z8000783

Using the word "jihad" in the way they do and clearly stating non-violence is a pretty good stab at Muslim nonsense I think.

I think you're right about Bush's crusade, he seemed to see it that way and a glance at current events about religious indoctrination of US forces personnel, indicates that crusade is indeed the correct term. How many American generals need to say "it's my God against yours" before it becomes clear that world Christian domination is the goal?

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Comment #74034 by Yorker on September 27, 2007 at 5:24 am

Yes, it would be hard to find anyone who agrees with everything the RRS does but that's not important in the early stages of this war. Additionally, their young warriors are eager for battle and don't worry too much about niceties; let them get on with it I say. Part of being in a "herd" is acceptance that some personal views have to be set aside; the price paid for the clear advantages of herd membership.

It must be kept in mind that stalwarts like Dawkins, Harris, Hitchens etc. are now media figures whether they like it or not and it forces them to behave in a way that's appropriate. We can criticise the RRS but it's irrelevant unless we can demonstrate, not talk about, a better way.

Since Dawkins etc. have already agreed to participate in the RRS special room video, this must be logically seen as an endorsement, a wise move in my view.

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Comment #73954 by Yorker on September 26, 2007 at 8:43 pm

That's the first time I took a good look at the RRS site, it's pleasing and I liked the idea of their non-violent Atheist Jihad! I'm also pleased to see they're sticking to their guns and objectives; excellent positive attitude.

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Comment #73951 by Yorker on September 26, 2007 at 8:27 pm

Secret members get access to the special room while recording takes place.

That looks like the cheque they gave RDF last year.

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Comment #73865 by Yorker on September 26, 2007 at 11:54 am

18. Comment #73824 by 82abhilash

Thanks for the information.

Possibly the "taboo" in the German couple was broken by their long separation. Clearly, they should have used contraceptives but the fact they want to be togther should take precedence over anything else in my opinion. Middle-aged and elderly brother and sisters living together is not umcommon, often it's forced upon them by circumstance and some probably just want the company.

Who's to say that some might be having sex and why would we care; none of our business.

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Comment #73861 by Yorker on September 26, 2007 at 11:37 am

ArseTornis

You are sick I think, seek help. I have no intention of giving you a contest over your imaginary lovesickness. Any woman who would want such as arsehole as yourself is very welcome to you.

You stepped well out of line; consider your arse kicked, now go away, steal some candy from a baby and stop mingling with adults.

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Comment #73775 by Yorker on September 26, 2007 at 6:26 am

"They are all Fsckwits."

You're probably right Pewk, but I also wonder if it's just some pratt following a generalised directive who answers the mail.

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Comment #73766 by Yorker on September 26, 2007 at 5:39 am

8. Comment #73740 by shaunfletcher

Your mention of incest made me think. I have two sisters both of whom are still very attractive and in my youth, on occasion wondered why I never had any sexual thoughts about them. This is not my field but it seems like there's an in-built mechanism against incest. Maybe in some people it doesn't exist or they're able to overcome it.

Does anyone have a professional opinion on it?

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Comment #73763 by Yorker on September 26, 2007 at 5:26 am

72. Comment #73677 by Teratornis

Holy shit! Just what we need, another humourless bring-out-your-dead type.

Ever heard of a joke? I guess not, but in any case your comment was silly and simply wrong. Who would I be flattering? Northern Bright? I'm 64 years old, although I know women generally enjoy flattery, I don't need to do that any more and in any case she might not even exist for all I know!
If I wanted to flatter a woman I'd mention her nice hair or something, not make a joke.

Actually, I've never come across anyone who would write such drivel over their misunderstanding of a simple one-line joke as you did. I'm forced to think you have a hidden agenda I'm not aware of or you've taken a dislike to me for reasons you failed to explain. Perhaps you've fallen in love with that fair lady and it stuck in your craw that she called me a smooth talker! LOL.

Amazing!

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Comment #73760 by Yorker on September 26, 2007 at 5:05 am

66. Comment #73529 by Homo Incredulous

Maybe I'm wrong but isn't that Stephen Maguire the snooker player in your avatar?

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Comment #73588 by Yorker on September 25, 2007 at 11:21 am

67. Comment #73534 by Stuart Paul Wood

Stuart,

There seems to be an echo in here, it sounds like you didn't read my comment #22 because you're saying vitually the same stuff. Not to mention the comprehensive list by Veronique.

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Comment #73549 by Yorker on September 25, 2007 at 9:02 am

63. Comment #73527 by ellissg

Clearly, you've never read Bollockcus 16:12-13, here it is written:

"Whenst thou hearest or readeth that which conflicteth with that Our Lord hath spake before, take it not upon thyself to judge. Knowest that His ways are mysterious and not for the understanding of a lowly creature such as thee. Goest now and cleanse thy mind of such foul thoughts, repent and pray for forgiveness and visiteth not again this Satanic den"

So there :)

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Comment #73547 by Yorker on September 25, 2007 at 8:41 am

"By the way, Clappers - I can only assume you mean that Jesus is poised to bid someone 'Rise'."

With a hand like that, I'd bet it's already risen!

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Comment #73516 by Yorker on September 25, 2007 at 7:06 am

6. Comment #73465 by Jiten

Correct.

Politicians are simply whores in the service of money-mongers and will do whatever it takes to stay in office. The notion of freedom and democracy in the UK is complete bollocks, but it's slightly better than the the almost identical USA version. The only difference is that God Dollar has competition in the form of God Jesus which stifles the population. In the UK, God Pound is undisputed and that allows us a little more leeway in our dealings with each other.

Having lived in both countries I feel qualified to make that statement.

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Comment #73509 by Yorker on September 25, 2007 at 6:32 am

We all have our reasons for using or not using our real names, that's it.

However, I just did a little clicking myself and notice that Prufrock is the only one I tried that apparently as Richard Morgan says, does not exist. At the very least that is shall we say, interesting.

Note that have nothing against either of you guys.

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Comment #73279 by Yorker on September 24, 2007 at 4:20 pm

This talk of schooldays reminds of the time science got me sent home from school for causing the destruction of a WC by carbide bomb.

Next day I had to write an essay on the error of my ways and how dangerous it could have been, it took a terrific effort of will not to write that no-one was sitting on the WC at the time.

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Comment #73268 by Yorker on September 24, 2007 at 4:00 pm

55. Comment #73236 by Northern Bright

"Oh Yorker, what a smooth talker you are."

Am I? I think there might be a few who'd disagree with you, mostly males of course.:)

You certainly are a young looking 43 and compared with me you are young but at 64 I still have plenty hair (grey blond), I'm only slightly pudgy and still like ladies as much as I did 30 years ago. My tastes have changed though, I'm at last able to appreciate a woman's intellect. :)

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Comment #73226 by Yorker on September 24, 2007 at 2:06 pm

Northern Bright

I guess you might've had a bad science teacher.

I remember the very first day I met my science teacher, his first words were:

"Now then boys, my job is not to make scientists or engineers of you, my job is to teach you how to think. But we'll also have some fun; let's start with some chemistry which is the study of stinks and bangs!"

I had fallen in love with science or at least electronics at 9, well before I met him but he was a marvellous teacher and encouraged me to think about all aspects of science. He played an influential role in my life.

But I guess you're young and so have a lot to look forward to in life, I hope you make the most of it and get as much as you can from it.

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Comment #73178 by Yorker on September 24, 2007 at 11:20 am

40. Comment #73166 by Richard Morgan

Richard, clearly you took my answer in the spirit it was intended, you asked the question, I gave an answer, no hidden agenda.

Bonzai either didn't read your post but he sure as shit read mine, or he has another second reason. Occams Razor gives equal validity to both, I choose the second; he simply doesn't like me and still smarts from the spanking I gave him on another thread. I base my decision purely upon evidence; others have noticed his untoward response.

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Comment #73149 by Yorker on September 24, 2007 at 9:22 am

32. Comment #73147 by Richard Morgan

No, the English is correct. The reference is to the name of a program, a single item.

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Comment #73148 by Yorker on September 24, 2007 at 9:18 am

11. Comment #73028 by Cartomancer

Well said! I like you more each time I read you!

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Comment #73145 by Yorker on September 24, 2007 at 9:15 am

24. Comment #73127 by Dr Benway

From your avatar I assume you're a Turing fan, thousands of people owe their lives to the fact he was a litlle more positive than you!

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Comment #73144 by Yorker on September 24, 2007 at 9:09 am

28. Comment #73142 by d4m14n

"You mean like Ray Mears' Wild Food? Excellent idea!"

Yes, it was a good idea, one of the few from TV nowadays and look at all the money we'd save by following Ray's example.