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51. Evolution: 24 myths and misconceptions

Comment #163594 by babrock on April 18, 2008 at 3:24 pm

I asked t question because I was honestly curios and (t spelling police notwithstanding) figured that there should be plenty of people smart enuf to understand t issue better than I did and someone probly would not mind explaining it to me.

T spelling police( and other petty bickering) notwithstanding, I look forward to reading what everyone has to say, whether I am being noticed or ignored.

52. Evolution: 24 myths and misconceptions

Comment #163588 by babrock on April 18, 2008 at 3:14 pm

I repeated t question merely to point out that it had not been answered, only talked about. If you thought I was demanding a responce, I apolagise for my part in your confusion. Otherwise feel free to ignore every thing I post. I in turn will not get bent out of shape over people being petty and bitchy.

I apolagise for being poor at typing and spelling. I had a longer, more indepth responce, but I timed out w/ it once again

53. Evolution: 24 myths and misconceptions

Comment #163306 by babrock on April 18, 2008 at 7:11 am

My wife says that she has read of there being a tendency for female siblings (like NJS was stating) of gay men to feel t need to make up for t lack of procreativeness in their family. She understood it to be more psychological rather than genetic tho.

Along those same lines, she noted a tendency for couples who adopt because of infertility, to bear a child soon after t adoption. T presure is off.

Neither of these is a genetic issue. Tho in t former case, I think it could explain how whatever "gay" gene there is getting put out there.

54. Evolution: 24 myths and misconceptions

Comment #163295 by babrock on April 18, 2008 at 6:39 am

All t discusion regarding procreation involvig gay men not withstanding;I did not get anything like an answer to my question, so I will ask it again.

Is t writer stating that female relitives of gay men are more fertile? Actualy it reads to me like it was a mere hypothisis, one of a few that could explain t presence of "gay" genes. (I realy do not want t start anything on that issue)

I am simply unclear on how much, if at all, t writer is making that assertian.

55. Evolution: 24 myths and misconceptions

Comment #162991 by babrock on April 17, 2008 at 7:18 pm

Small question.
W/in t text under t 1st heading "Everything is an adaptation produced by nat. sel." it states "Homosexuality mite be linked to gene variation that increase fertility in females"

Does not this mean that t sisters, mothers and t odd female offspring of gay men should tend to be more fertile than that of non gay men?

I have never heard of any such thing

56. Yoko Ono, Filmmakers Caught in 'Expelled' Flap

Comment #162955 by babrock on April 17, 2008 at 5:53 pm

Not because I simply dislike it and want to see it banned, tho I do have agreat dislike regarding t widespread dishonesty this movie is bassed on, but it would make me very happy to see a part of John Lennon's legacy "stop the release ect," as DasSquid said.

That would be one more thing that he and his ideas could acomplish. As it is to be relesed in only a few short hours, (Isn't it being released tomorrow?) it would be remarkably unlikly.

I think that protecting John's legacy is probably Yoko's #1 goal these days. It is an issue that I also think is more important than what ever Mr. Stein and everyone at t Discovery Institute is whining about. So I am w/ her.

57. Sexpelled: No Intercourse Allowed

Comment #162900 by babrock on April 17, 2008 at 4:26 pm

I usually use t Ptolemaic theory verses t Copernican theory of astronomy to get t point acrossed, but this is vastly superior in just about every way.

Thanx again.

58. Yoko Ono, Filmmakers Caught in 'Expelled' Flap

Comment #162881 by babrock on April 17, 2008 at 4:04 pm

Not that I hold any of these guy in t same league as John Lennon, but,

I would expect Elton John to be upset if some rednecks started using "Philidelphia Freedom" to mean t freedom to kill queers.

Mr. Zimmerman to be upset if "The Times They Are A Changing" to mean thast now it is allowed to bomb churches and abortian clinics.

Woody Guthrie to be upset if "This Land Is Your Land" is to be said to be from t CEO of Exxon to Bill Gates.

Or lastly T Clash to be upset if "Lost In T Supermarket" to be understood merely as a five year old looking for her mother in t canned goods section.

59. Yoko Ono, Filmmakers Caught in 'Expelled' Flap

Comment #162863 by babrock on April 17, 2008 at 3:40 pm

Yes, this pisses me off greatly too, tho I am surprised only a little that t xtians feel compelled to steal for Jebus as well as lie for him.

On Mr. Lennon saying he was religous, I have to belive he was one, bending over backwards in an attempt to accomodate t ungrateful, duplicitous shits.

And more importantly two, that he probably meant only that he was imensly curriose, and interested in t questions, not that he claimed to have any of t answers, when he said he was religouse.

60. Richard Dawkins and Lawrence Krauss

Comment #162568 by babrock on April 17, 2008 at 4:40 am

And I love his "kill religon" remark.
We should get that on our t-shirts rather than t 'A'
For me t 'A' has alwats stood for anarchy.

61. Richard Dawkins and Lawrence Krauss

Comment #162557 by babrock on April 17, 2008 at 4:12 am

yes,thanx for posting this.

10' of this is vastly preferable to 100' of a group of morons posulating that " Yes t devil exists" or "I do believe that homosexuality is wrong" or whatever inane garbage, as ocurres on other formats.

62. 'Expelled' ripped off Harvard's 'Inner Life of the Cell' animation

Comment #160410 by babrock on April 14, 2008 at 3:48 am

Just this wknd I 1st saw an ad for t movie on TV. It did not look particularly different than any other ad. And they were pushing t " everybody's talkin about it" angle.

W/ t fundamentalists ability too compartmentalize being what it is , I think that if there was proof that t writers fabricated t evidence( more than they did I mean), that t producers financed t movie w/ t procedes from white slavery, and that Ben Stien killed his cat; that they would still play up that same angle.

63. A New Flea

Comment #160407 by babrock on April 14, 2008 at 3:34 am

Steve
My wife and I have a standing joke.
That we come to this site so often just so, if that evidence that dog exists does materialise, that Richard will be t 1st to be aware of it and let everyone know.

So we come here just so as to get t news quickly.

64. Richard Dawkins' secular army must be stopped. God is behind some of our greatest art

Comment #160406 by babrock on April 14, 2008 at 3:24 am

Like everyone else, I thought this guy is ridiculouse. Tho I do find his take on religon less dangerouse as that of a literalist. I mostly have to deal w/ literalists. Belive me they are worse.

Also he seems to be critisising our man for enjoying t spotlight too much. On that, people enjoy attention, adulation, and appreciation for a job well done. T clann member who brought in t meat got praised. I have not seen evidence that t attention has gone to his head particularly so what is his problem?

65. The Art of Creating Controversy Where None Existed

Comment #159960 by babrock on April 13, 2008 at 1:23 pm

This is small potatoes overall but for me a particularly gaulling example of sophistry was that ftard on T Big Question in t suit that went on and on about an exorcisable Devil inarguable existing because of t evil of Stalin and Hitler, and then, when it started looking like he was looking foolish w/ that bit of indignation, he imediatly started talking of t Devil only as a metaphor for evil; as if this was what he had been saying all along.

66. Scientists take drugs to boost brain power: study

Comment #159825 by babrock on April 13, 2008 at 7:53 am

fyi
There is a book called "The War On Drugs" which I liked, which holds religous types responsible as well.

67. Scientists take drugs to boost brain power: study

Comment #159821 by babrock on April 13, 2008 at 7:48 am

asupcb
On;whose bright idea drug prohibition was?
T same people that thought alchohol prohibition was a great idea. You hit t nail on t head w/ your asertion regarding t disproportionat # of blacks incarserated for nonviolent drug crimes.

Most of t history of drug prohibition in America is a list of t status quogiong after one ethnic mminority after another; Weed for t Mexicans and opiates for t Chinese Cocain is a bit diferent, but t sentencing disparity btwn powder and crack offences is unquestionable and based on nothing more than that blacks largly cannot afford cocain in powdered form.

For decades I have belived that t two greatest sources of evil/injustice whatever in t world are church and state. As this site is devoted to focusing on t former rather than t later it may well be inapropriot to go on too much about it, so I donot often but here is an exception.

68. Richard Dawkins on The Big Questions

Comment #159694 by babrock on April 12, 2008 at 9:39 pm

I came here initialy just to say how I thought that overall this was maybe t lamest video I have seen on this site, only made at all bearable by our heros belated astonishment at t general lamness.

On t subject of holacost deniers, it is a particularly crackpot idea. I can tho more easily imagine that he not running and hiding but tired of typing. He seems to have gone on for quiet a while.

On 1st person acounts; Decades ago, in my cab I had an old Polish man, who said he had escaped from both a Nazi camp and a also a camp that Stalin had, a DPG camp. Somehow that translats to displaced person camp, a rather banal euphamism. I know it was just his word but I belived him. And he sure thought they meant to do him serios harm.

That is not much on t entire issue but I have always thought of that man as maybe t most amazing person I have ever met.

69. Did pre-big bang universe leave its mark on the sky?

Comment #159241 by babrock on April 11, 2008 at 6:08 pm

AntonAAk
I am no expert on this but, t confusion is caused simply by that, somewhat old, definition of "t universe consiting of everything that exists."
Strictly speaking, t universe consists of everything that exits w/in t three spatial dimensions and one temporal that we are aware of basicly.

Anything that exists outside of these dimensions is outside our universe. All t universes together along w/ ours is called t multiverse or omniverse or something.

That possibly would manage to encompass everything that exits, unless there are somehow multiple multiverses or something.

Personaly, I can only understand another dimension, beyond our three, as something beyond my understanding, but just as we exist in a dimension beyond that of a plan, there is suppossed to be dimensions beyond that of space.

70. Did pre-big bang universe leave its mark on the sky?

Comment #159233 by babrock on April 11, 2008 at 5:37 pm

Yeah,it is still quite speculative, but I am awestruck that somehow we have enuf info to even speculate on anything pre-big bang.

71. Scientists take drugs to boost brain power: study

Comment #159222 by babrock on April 11, 2008 at 5:16 pm

Personaly,I am a big beliver in better living thru chemistry. Yes there is a signifigant chance of signifigant negative side effects that t users should be aware of, but I have never seen why that is any ones concern other than t user.

That is my position on strong illegal drugs, and it is definetly how I view brain boosters.

72. The List: The World's Worst Religious Leaders

Comment #159214 by babrock on April 11, 2008 at 4:58 pm

EvidenceOnly gave some staggering statistics. My initial responce was to agree w/ him/her totaly on t pope beig singularly guilty. I then got to thinking tho, that those same excact restrictions also come from just about every muslim leader don't they? I donot know hindus take on birth control. I think fundemental judeism is also probably as restrictive, tho on that am only speculating.

Not that this lets him off t hook at all. It only makes him not as singularly guilty, esp w/ t recent news that islam has surpassed catholisism in # of devotees.

73. Get out of here, atheists!

Comment #157200 by babrock on April 8, 2008 at 4:37 pm

This is terribly distressing, unfortunatlly not at all surprisingly so.

As a member of an oppressed minority or two myself I find it unfathomable, how so many members of one can be so oblivios to t injustices suffered by another, and find so little common cause w/ t simple idea that no one is free until we all are free.

In general, t atmosphere I deal w/ at work is similar to what I heard there and it is bad enuf for me . I feel sorry for whoever is gay. T shit that gets dumped on their heads is more than I think I could take.

75. Pastor attacks scientist's talk

Comment #155509 by babrock on April 4, 2008 at 3:56 pm

On t idea of ideas/info ect. existing independently from their physical source;
I heard Madalyn O'hair speak, decades ago, and she used t example of a casete tape. I prefer using t Mona Lisa tho t idea works for both.

While t info contained in t frequency patterns can have any imaginable emotional effect. T ideas can inspire countless people to do anything, including saving peoples lives or even saving t world. While t music or whatever can be remembered by any number of people or t casete can be duplicated. While all this and more is true ,once t casete is destroyed, burned up for example, t info is gone , lost , caput. It did not go to heaven. It's soul did not live on. T fact that it was special, that it saved t world, did not give it any claim whatsoever to imortality.

Again I think this works better w/ t Mona Lisa, but I gave it out as I remember getting it

76. Anti-gay Okla. lawmaker attracts 1,000 backers

Comment #154864 by babrock on April 3, 2008 at 9:02 pm

To continue t idea of asking why she is picking this particular bit of offensive crap and not "fill in t blank", such as t list of vile shit in Leviticus, allow me to add my most vile bit. 2 bits really.

(Ex. 21:7) Fathers may sell their daughters into slavery.

(Ex. 21:20-21) Slaves may be beaten, as long as they survive for two days after. This one is a bit different in different translations ,I am told. Tho in all it is followed by t explaination that t loss of property, experienced by t owner/beater/ murderer, is punishment enuf, so it stands impossible to wriggle out of either way.

77. Pastor attacks scientist's talk

Comment #154850 by babrock on April 3, 2008 at 8:08 pm

When I ask my brother,also a faithead, how he explains t mountains of evidence like t dino bones he says t devil put them there. Also he has said things to t affect that thereis no need to worry about t future of t planet as jebus is returning soon so it will all be taken care of.
These are just t kind of ideas that are in this f***tards book,presumably a context where he has given his own ideas plenty of thought. and he whines that Dawkins won't debate him.
I donot have t mind of Dawkins and it is a waste of my time to read this drivel. It would be a crime for Richard to waste his time to consider a debate.

78. Pastor attacks scientist's talk

Comment #154842 by babrock on April 3, 2008 at 7:53 pm

This is t guy damn his eyes.
I am getting my mom, a very well intentioned faithhed, to read "Letter to a Christian Nat." and I in turn am to read his thing. I had never heard of him, other than having seen it on t collection of fleas. My moms preacher tho thinks that this is just t ticket.
I have read only a few chapters so far but goodness this guy is an idiot.
He has plenty of crap to say about all of us posters here on this site. As we can be ocasionaly fawning or petty and I occasionally misspell words, I will give him that a little.
That is t closest he comes to any valid critisism of anything.
He does not understand science. he doesnot understand rationality, in particular that faith is not evidence. And he whines a lot that Dawkins won't debate him.

79. Cult leader Pyotr Kuznetsov tries suicide after realising he was wrong about doomsday

Comment #154835 by babrock on April 3, 2008 at 7:29 pm

"people living in the cave considered themselves orthodox christians and not cult members.
Except for t living in t cave thing I would agree w/ them.
That and t thing w/ t cow I suppose.

80. Sean Carroll on the Today Program

Comment #154823 by babrock on April 3, 2008 at 7:03 pm

I have a fairly large interest in history but I am no scholar.
I am wondering how long after Galilao produced evidence, that t Ptolomaic view of t heavens was wrong, did it become generally accepted by everyone that it was wrong, and that we were not t center of anything.
He just said it had been 149 years since Darwin. Or one could start counting from Watson and Cricks' discovery.
From my point of view t stupidity has gone on way too long tho maybe I am being impatient.

81. Supreme Court to consider Ten Commandments vs. 'Seven Aphorisms'

Comment #154789 by babrock on April 3, 2008 at 5:55 pm

I was wondering if I hadnot heard of this because of some fault w/ me. But after looking this crap up I see why it is obscure and unheard of.
I did like t law of cause and effect tho.

82. I always aim to misbehave

Comment #151678 by babrock on March 29, 2008 at 7:34 am

I had these two together and timed out so i am now dividing them.

We, rationalists, see truth as that that t evidence suports. It is something that we haver no little respect for and so try and be as acurate and precice about it as we can.

I understand faithheads understanding of t truth only vaugly but for them it involves wishful thinking and what they have faith ought to be, or what ever dog has told them that it is or should be.

As such, evidence and rationality mean only so much to them. This being t case they can easily blather on nonesence and call us lyers as by their definition lying is not much diferent than us stating a truth that they find uncomfortable.

Also I think for them lying is involved more w/ sin than willfull misrepresentation of t truth.

Anyway I sympathise w/ anyone who has to engage these people in any discusion, tho like Sam says other than violence discusion is all we have.

83. I always aim to misbehave

Comment #151674 by babrock on March 29, 2008 at 7:17 am

Jack
That was great.
Those unscrupulouse Newtonions will stop at nothing.

84. Beware the Believers

Comment #151665 by babrock on March 29, 2008 at 6:45 am

I thought it was quite funny. It reminded me of something called 'The Dawkins Delusion', where some guy goes on postulating that Dawkins doesnot exist.
I like to laff at myself.It is a subject I know better than most others. T less seriosly one takes oneself t more opertunities there are for enjoying laffing at oneself.
My favorite was watching Charles Darwin get down. I wish I could dance like that man.

85. Iowa county board gives initial OK for ghost hunters to investigate asylum

Comment #151654 by babrock on March 29, 2008 at 6:23 am

An arbitrary judgment call on this but I think on this it wouldnot hurt to side w/ Ben Stien on this and side against big science.
I am aware that to alow this could be percieved as a tacid acknowledgment of its legitimicy. But not alowing it would probably do more to bolster t position of those who claim a conspericy to supress t truth.
And hell, there is t posibility that something of some signifigance could be learned of something somehow.

86. 'We Make Our Own Heaven'

Comment #151649 by babrock on March 29, 2008 at 6:10 am

Again sorry. I was no where near finished rambling but apearently I pushed t submit buton prematurely.
I have never joined a fraternity but I have been in a number of groups of people joined in a common cause and I ocaisionaly enjoyed t experience.
Curently I have a job and so am joined w/ a # of faithheads for t goal of obtainig a paycheck.
And recently thru this site we, t wife and I, have gotten involved w/ t local humanist group. We enjoy it and look forward to atending. Also we are involved w/ everybody else at this site here which we find an engaging experience, t ocasional petty bickering notwithstanding.
It is inarguable that itis important that children learn moral and ethical behavior and to a lesser extent social norms. I cannot think of a better way than for freethingking people beliving in reason above all else to get togother to help out w/ t task

87. 'We Make Our Own Heaven'

Comment #151641 by babrock on March 29, 2008 at 5:53 am

Sorry to interupt whatever conversation/thread is already going on but I want to state that I think this is great.
People like to get together w/ people of a like mind and I see no reason at all that atheists/ humanists should have to have all our belifes individualy

88. Fossil find could be Europe's first humans

Comment #151040 by babrock on March 28, 2008 at 4:00 am

Darwins Badger and Prettygoodmonk have both mentioned a similarity to Picard.To my mind, this one is bald and so t similarity is only slight.

Model builders do a number of these. T one of what they were saying was t 1st humanoid in t western hemisphere has a similarity that is quite strong.

My theory is that there are plenty of us Trekers w/in t ranks of t sciences, model builders espesialy apearently, and so t model skulls are often made to look like our revered capt..

89. Expelled Overview

Comment #150923 by babrock on March 27, 2008 at 4:20 pm

And now I read post 104 by 24fps which presumably blows my piont out of t water somewhat anyway, asuming that 4.6 and 17 mil were a lot of $ back then.
Oh well, wrong again.

90. Expelled Overview

Comment #150922 by babrock on March 27, 2008 at 4:09 pm

Alkal
My take on t 'controversy' is rather similar to yours, except that I use t example of t Ptolamaic view of t solar system instead.

Otherwise, I think t movie deserves to be ignored. I suspect it will be. Last I read 80% of movies do lose $ so there are t odds initialy.

Decades ago, while in grade school, I was a fundy, initialy as unquestioningly acsepting of t entire package as t next. I remember we all loaded up into t church bus and went to watch some rather low budget movie that delt w/ t Left Behind topics. Also there was a sequel that was even more low budget, that featured plenty off people screaming incesantly.

My point is that I am rather sure that neither of those movies went on to make much of an impact on society at large. I bet no more than 1 in 20 can even name them and they have been forgoten justly.

91. Austin Dacey - The Secular Conscience

Comment #150891 by babrock on March 27, 2008 at 2:14 pm

My computer freezes up every time I try and get this to play, about 8x now.
I am able to run t Sue Blackmore but not this.
I guesse this is what GBart and Jdwink are stating, tho I am still confused as to how t other 15 or so posters are getting it.

92. The Secular Conscience

Comment #148553 by babrock on March 23, 2008 at 9:32 am

Man that is absolutely amazing for me. I have never yet posted anything nearly as long as that.

Generaly I time out while posting things much smaller than that, such that I am terified (way to strong a word yes) that t entire thing is going to be a waste of time once t submit buton is pressed and my hope ( that it will be submited sucsesfully) is crushed.

93. The Secular Conscience

Comment #148549 by babrock on March 23, 2008 at 9:24 am

As a group I think we are as concerned about issues involving ethics and morality as are most any other, at least.

I think that we need to work on it more than otyher groups simply because of our image problem. As such I think this book coming out is a particularly good thing for us.

Right after 9/11 one of my reactions most prevelent was my being critical of Moslems in general for not being more critical of t extremists and that particular extreme action.

I had heard snippets of info regarding how t Moslem world overall was against it, but it did not seem that way to me at all. How much that was anti-Moslem bias in t media, and how much becaus it was acurate, and how much becaus of some thing else, I donot Know.

Anyway, to my eyes and those of most of t
West in general their aledged critisisms seemed quiet tepid at best, making it prohibitavly dificult to come to any other conclusion other than that they wre not overly bothered by t afair.

Posibly this is nothing more than a public relations job done not as well as it could have been but posibly it was that they realy were realy not as concerned w/ it as much as one would think that they should be.

As we are veiwed similarly I think it is incumbent upon us to be concerned over these issues if for no othe reason than for t public relation reasons. Also ethical concerns are some thing that I am particularly anal about so maybe that is all it is.

94. The death-of-god debate

Comment #148519 by babrock on March 23, 2008 at 8:45 am

Who is this John Grey and what debate is this artical refering to?

Whenever I ask a similar question Iam generaly directed to google it. In this case tho, google indicated that he is t author of t Mars/Venus books. This is off topic but t wife and I found t ideas in that book rather usefull in their own small ways.

Could someone please provide a link to t corect John Grey and whatever debate/argument/contraversy is being refered to in this artical.

95. Flipping particle could explain missing antimatter

Comment #148177 by babrock on March 22, 2008 at 8:48 am

j.mills
Thank you
So if Iam understanding this corectly then what happened is like;

1.initialy t universe had 50% matter and 49% antimatter

2. they canceled each other out

3. leaving what was initially t 1% extra of matter

4 and that 1% is what now constitutes all t matter in t universe

Is that fairly close?

96. Discussion on PZ Myers being expelled from Expelled

Comment #148170 by babrock on March 22, 2008 at 8:32 am

sent2null and everyone else who provided a link to another site;
thanks. My ability to navigate thru t internet is unbelievably limited. W/ you having posted it, all I have to do is click on it and Iam there.
Yes, t proteins walking t big ball was particularly awesome.

97. Flipping particle could explain missing antimatter

Comment #147490 by babrock on March 20, 2008 at 4:08 pm

I find physics to be posibly t most important and facinating field in t universe. A judgment call on my part but for me Steven Hawkings and Lisa Randell w/ Newton befor them are probably smarter than our heroes here Darwin and Dawkins.

I could easily be being dence, regardless tho, I still donot get it even tho it was promised; Where is all t antimatter?

So they are understanding better some new procces that subatomic particals are undergoing and furthermore that it is posibly a major crack in t standard model.

Nowhere tho did I read what sounded to me to be an explaination of how we have ended up w/ way more of one type than t other. Could someone clue me in please ?

98. Richard Dawkins on The Alan Colmes Show

Comment #143985 by babrock on March 14, 2008 at 7:37 pm

For those of you not living here in Merca, now you know what my life is like.

I am sure that not everyone here is that stupid but I imagine that that was about right for listeners of Fox news and also that is about t same percentge that I have to deal w/ on a daily basis. My wife is t only atheist that I know that I know of. So t rest of my regular day is dealing w/ people like that. Most of them are nice enuf people in their own way but still.

I supose that is a big reason that I enjoy this site so much as itis a rare opertunity to conect w/ anyone other than only people like all those dumbasses.

99. Full house captivated by atheist Dawkins' take on religion

Comment #143902 by babrock on March 14, 2008 at 3:18 pm

My bad unquestionably but I am usually too impatiant/lazy to read long posts but for t Lucas- tetronis thing I made an exception.

To be civil is undoubtably a good tactic.
To ask them leading questions to get them to come around to obviose inescapable truths also sounds good. I think I will try some of your pionters. I sure donot have any better methods.

It ocures to me tho that as they(dogmatic fundimentalists) are sety to defend their position more than reach t truth that your method will lead only to obfications and varios other attemps to stick their heads further into t sand.

Peoples ability to willfully decieve themselves knows few bounds esp. when they have their entire life invested in it. again I donot have any better idea. I am only hoping someone else does.

Also what is a text editor and how do I turn it on.I also time out reeatedly.