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Comment #145809 by Pathfinder on March 18, 2008 at 6:58 am

Index Librorum Prohibitorum:

The God Delusion

Lady Chatterleys Lover (our moral decline began here!)

The Origin of The Species

Das Capital

Le Contract Social

Mein Kampf

The Dolls House (Ibsen - sanction's syphilis)

The Joy of Sex (part's One & Two... filth from beginning to end AND my copies fell apart)

The Naked Ape

Hitler wasn't so wrong about book-burning, at least. Some people need to be protected from themselve's.

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Comment #145801 by Pathfinder on March 18, 2008 at 6:43 am

Look, Plumed Serpent (heck I've tried typeing out your name!) Darwin only held off publishing because he was afriad FOR HIMSELF, of public vilification, not because of the MORAL implication's of his masterwork. (And it is, I have to admit, although Edmund Gosses father -Thomas? - slashed it to pieces in OMPHALOS.)

Let me take this opportunity to say perhaps my earlier approach was a bit too hands-on. So no more sermon's about H&B... I regret I blew up a bit at that dolt Clearthinker. We must all remember we are SINNER's Saved by Grace. Well, some of us, anyways...

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Comment #145787 by Pathfinder on March 18, 2008 at 6:28 am

Annabanana. Why? I'll tell you why: ever heard of the word "deterrence"? Setting an example?

Epeeist: 'Fraid I'mnot going to let Darwin off the hook that easily. The book is really a ziggurat of MONSTROUS hubris. He should of known of the consequences of what he was publishing! And he was supposedly destined for the Church! One shudder's to think...

Dr Benway; what is it about Free Will and mixed massages you fail to understand?

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Comment #145776 by Pathfinder on March 18, 2008 at 6:14 am

Dr Benway: thats a shrood point, if a little unforgiveing.

Personally, as a God-fearing Christian, I am frequently appalled at the behavior of these guy's. A pastor, of whatever denomination, has a responsibilitty to his flock, does he not? It is a violation of that central Christian tenet: one cannt serve both God and Mammon.

If it were up to me ALL pastors would be obliged to ACCOUNT FOR all monie's pertaining too their congregation's. PUBLICLY. It should be AUDITED. In lights, what you will. The Muslim's have ZAKAT, don't they? We should do the same.

As for Swaggart, Bakker and his ilk, they should be PILLORIED. I mean, literally, as in 17 cent. UK, put in stock's like Daniel Defoe (The author of ROBINSON CRUESOE) and humiliated.

Irate: what contradiction? Ever heard the expression "love is a two-way street"? It's the
AFTERMATH which may not be conditional, but then that's the choise of the doer.

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Comment #145767 by Pathfinder on March 18, 2008 at 5:59 am

Forset Mist: You're right, up to a point, though I am at a loss to comprehend your first sentence. It doesn't seem logical. I was trying to say that I accept they saw these people as Untermenshen, and THAT FALLACY was possible becuse of a misreading of Darwinism. The fact that it was a misreading is neither here nor there! This is where a belief in science's methodology as a kind of universal catch-all lead's. Don't you SEE? You guys extol the scientific method. Fine. So do I, up to a point. The question is, if this becomes a mantra: all for the good of the greatest possible good, then THAT can be misread (deliberately) by the power's that be for their own ends. Better to have God, isn't it? At least that way, there is some kind of CHECK, a tipping-point beyond which you cannot go!!!

Philip, I'm not sure about Stockholm Syndrome, reely I'm not. Gods love is unconditional, BOTH WAY'S. All you have to do is choose.

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Comment #145722 by Pathfinder on March 18, 2008 at 3:31 am

MikeJSWalker

Sounds as if you're coming round to my way of thinking towards the end of that blasphemous poem.

Have you seen the light? I'm here for you if you have!

Cant spend to long here. I am presently annihilating all the pathetic Atheists feeble argument on the Creationsim thread. Gotta go.

Praise be!

Whose Thora Hird? The name sound's vaguely familiar from my time in the UK

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Comment #145717 by Pathfinder on March 18, 2008 at 3:25 am

Lee C, I take youre point about the Big Bang theory, of course only a "theory" and a "model". I know this is a matter of semantic's but it is not PROVEN FACT, is it, by any stretsh of the imagination? Just like EVOLUTION. Oh yes, I've heard evolutionist's talk nonsense about the Peppered Moth from Industrial Time's in the UK, how it was OBSERVED to change in responce to the smoke belching out of the factories and effecting the flora around so the moth wouldnt stand out and be vulnerabble to predators. The point is HOW DO YOU KNOW GOD DIDN'T AFFECT THAT CHANGE? Wheres youre proof?

You talk of the billion to one chance of life starting here on Earth and the probablility's being sufficient, given all the star's in the galaxy. OK, I'm with you on this one: but what are the PROBABILITIES life doesn't exist elsewhere and we haven't been visited yet, as the PROBABILITIES this civilitzation would be more advanced than ours are much greater? Something wrong with your sadistical analysis there! The only VIABLE explanation why we are unique in the universe MUST BE down to GOD!!!

Praise be! ( And once and for all SHUT UP about my spelling! Who has time to use a spell-checker? I'm at work!)

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Comment #145702 by Pathfinder on March 18, 2008 at 2:49 am

Alan and Lee C - my, are you seriosly deludded!

Whilst I'd be the first to admit my sceince is not of the first order it is still interesting you have both failed MISERABLY to adress the point's I have been making.

The reason why CREATIONISM should and MUST be taught in sceince classe's is everything in our phenomenelogical world has a creator. But EVERYTHING. Why should existeance be any different?

My "evidence", as you call it, is everywhere around me, and in front of me, from the coffee in the coffee cup in front of this keyboard (did this keyboard design itself, huh?) to the Ikon on the wall of Jesus Christ Pancrator. ( Painted itsef, did it?) As for the other evidence: well, Jesus speak's to me. He is in me and an indissoluble part of me. I KNOW you'll dismiss this as not "testable", but hey, all those teeming BILLIONS from Tierra Del Fuego to Christchurch NZ must be WRONG, mustn't they?

While we're on the subject of Divine Guydunce, some ill-informed reprobate's have cast aspertions on my spelling. I'm trying but I realise my lack of education is no BARRIER. So stop carping about IRRELEVINT detail's and do me the courtesy of listening to the point's I'm trying to make. I thought you guy's were hot on this subject of communication.

Praise be!

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Comment #145691 by Pathfinder on March 18, 2008 at 2:33 am

Philip, my point wasn't about the bomb's raining on London but the fact that he KNEW about Pearl Harbor attack and said nothing to Roosevelt! Of course the UK couldn't win the war without US help, but this was staggering cynicism on Churchills part.

Quite clearly I do not have to worry about the inaptly named 'Clearthinker' - I have crushed him like a bug.

Whats the CFA?

As for saying, Philip, that you "should" go to Hell - I do'nt recall saying that. What I did say, I think, was you "would" IF... The choice is yours to make.

Some of you may have heard of a French missionary called Charles de Foucauld. No, not the degenerate "postmodernist" and PEDOPHILE. He gave his life to God, in the Sahara. In all that time (about 20 year's) he made ONE convert, and she a madwoman. In all that time he lived an ascetic life, in total self-DENIALL. He even wrote a dictionary of the Tuareg language, Tamahek (whitch up to then didnt exist) - it had never been written down. He was prepared to WAIT. As am I. Its all in the EFFORT, for JUJMENT DAY.

Praise be!

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Comment #145590 by Pathfinder on March 17, 2008 at 6:43 pm

Goldy, You raze a serious point, but one that I was fully anticipating! Sorry. Why not DURHAM CATHEDRAL, people alway's ask. Wouldnt that be more logical? But Our Lords logic isnt like out human construct: Remember logic originatted with "logos", the word. I presume you are conversent with Free Will? Striking Durham wood just have bin TOO DARNED OBVIOUS!!!

See, one thing you'll get with me is alway's a straight ANSWER. Now that Clearthinker guy, he woulden't know a straight answer from a Crown-of-Thorn's Starfish.

It's late. Back tomorrow TO CONVERT!

Praise be!

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Comment #145579 by Pathfinder on March 17, 2008 at 6:18 pm

Al, seem's we're both stumped. You say "can", which refer's to ability or possibility. For myself, I do not have proof either, beyond that of your's. I no you won't accept consensus or personal testimony, will ya?

So where do we go on from here? How can you be saved, if it can't be found in a petri dish?

Praise be!

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Comment #145574 by Pathfinder on March 17, 2008 at 6:05 pm

So now I utter uncomfortable, imperishibble truth's I'm denounced as a "sociopath" by Mr Dark! Thank's. Whilst I admire your talent for invective, Mr Dark, you will NOT, I repeet NOT, get a rise out of me!
Clairpenser, your a fraud. Kindly go away.
Mr Robertson, I notice you have not responded. Which is fine, it is obvious you have been thoroughly crushed by my argument. Are you some willy-wet-leg Anglican? Yes, I've spent some time in Britain. I do recall people of your ilk, around 1984-5, casting into dubeity the IMPERISHIBBLE truth of our LORDS RESURRECTION. It was the Bishop of Durham, wasn't it? What did he say? " A conjurring trick with bone's". And what happened shortly afterward's? YES, YORK MINSTER BURNED TO THE GROUND!!!!

Hope youve got a lot of fire extinguishers in your church, Mr Robertson.

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Comment #145555 by Pathfinder on March 17, 2008 at 5:50 pm

My point, Lee C about the Steady State and the Big Bang must have missed you by about the size of the Grand Canyon. The former has bin discreditted, has it not? And the latter? Do YOU have proof life just came into being, JUST LIKE THAT, any more than I have proof God exist's? Can either of these proposittions be observed in the
lab? Isnt that what for the Godless passeth as
evidence?

Praise be!

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Comment #145543 by Pathfinder on March 17, 2008 at 5:35 pm

Mr Robertson, what kind of frothing imbecile do you think you are, telling me, who has been vouchsafed personal revelation, what to do? Don't think I haven't witnessed your pathetic attempt's to make SOME sort of headway with these guy's with ABSOLUTE incredulity. You've been posting -what? - for about 1,000 years, whinining and snivelling in aggreived injury about some missing post's and some misunderstanding's conserning who is beeing invited to what talk? As a fellow Christian INITIALY I was sympathetic, now I have to tell you I am about as sympathetic as my good fellows were at Judas suicide! You presume TO SPEAK FOR ME! The arrogance! Antother thing: AT LEAST I know where I stand. Where do YOU stand? I'll tell you: nowhere! A lily-livered, lickspittle liberal with no spine, no convictions, just a pathetic kowtowing to received
PCIsm. The Bible is clear about homosexualty and lesbianism? - are you? It is INERRANTLY clear about morality, disobedience to one's parents and a whole host of other thing's! You, though, want to project a falsely smiling, loveing face, a serpents face of equivocattion and moral relatvism, a face that say's, I', love sweet love but you dont HAVE TO EARN IT.

I'm AFRAID you do! We in the West are sinking into a moral stupor of depravitty and licentiousness. The sweet-sweet tweet-tweet chirpings of what YOU SEE as Jesus message are not enough. Have you ever seen Michaelangelos 'Last Judgement'? What is Christ there - a Sunday School Teecher with a bag of Dolly Mixtures? HE IS SENDING PEOPLE, unbelievers,
to HELL. And I suggest if you wish to live up to your ministry, that is the message you had better be getting across, and fast!

I don't wish to be uncharitable, but your "contribution" to the the precipitous decliine has so far been MOMENTOUS. Christian! The
snake in Eden has nothing on you. Stop dribbling over details and get back to the FUNDAMENTAL'S. Now!

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Comment #145524 by Pathfinder on March 17, 2008 at 5:10 pm

What kind of twisted Atheistic "reason" beleives salvation to be a joke? It is THE issue of our time's! OK, feel free to dissmiss my magnificent point's as you see fit (I notice noones come up with a valid refuttation yet.)Creation has to be taught in SCHOOL'S because it is MORALLY RIGHT. Don't you UNDERSTAND?

I mean, the sheer drooling absurditty of a mass of hydrogen and helium suddenly, MIRACULOUSLY, sparking off our world as we know it! The complexitty of life evolving from a mear gas! HA HA HA if it wasnt so funny it would be truly pathetic the Three Soogi's couldnt make that one up. WHO ARE YOU KIDDING? The fact is, you DONT KNOW how life came into existeance, you just think you no. Creationism is as valid an explanation as any other: Big Bang, Steady State, all about as probable as Professor Dawkin's himself going on the Hajj!

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Comment #145506 by Pathfinder on March 17, 2008 at 4:55 pm

Frankus,I'm afriaid I'm very much for real, at least from the distorted lens of preverted ATHEISM. I am youre worst nightmare, for when the END TIME'S COME you will be the one wheeping and gibbering for sanctuary from the PURIFYING FIRE of God's goodness! Make no mistake, the END TIME will be soon! What are you gonna do? I know, I no, do'nt tell me, " Please God, I didn't mean to BLASPHEME and fornicate and waist my life on PREVERTED useless pleasure's like drinking and NITECLUB'S and degenerate pornographic VIDEO'S. Oh no, you didn't mean it, of course you didun't!

I razed the question before of Brecht, the playrite who called for a preist on his deathbed. Think your gonna be any different? Understand I AM TRYING TO HELP YOU. My mission here is conversion, nothing less. I am convinced, by the time I am through here, ALL OF YOU will see the light, and that include's the exalted Professor Dawkin's! Deny it as you will, the FOOL SAYETH IN HIS HEART, THERE IS NO GOD.

Praise be!

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Comment #145488 by Pathfinder on March 17, 2008 at 4:39 pm

Some questions to the Godless and seriously deludded:
Over 80% of the worlds population beleive in some kinda deity now from what I see you gall's and guy's think youre pretty smart so that must mean 20 plus % of the world are ABSOLUTE moron's! OK, if you asked anyone in a cort of law, How did we, HOMOS SAPIENS, with the abilitty to get to the moon and land spaceprobe's on Mars come into beeing? and some smartass sceintist with an IQ of
180 said, " We crawled out of the PRIMEVIL SLIME, we were LUNGFISH originally how do you think the JURY wood react? They'd laugh you out of cort!

Case closed, your Honour.The evidence for God is OVERWHELMING. There are so many books you dont no where to start! I mean, SLIME, C'mon, guy's - I can appreciate the people who say their descended from APES being that way... but me, count me out! I was made in GODS IMAGE AND LIKENESS AND AM PROUD OF IT! The World is NO MORE than 6,000 years
old. The fossil record was planted by THE ANTICHRIST, soas we'd have free will. It is so screamingly, blindingly obvious but too the most willfully delluded. How can you not see? I will prey for you all.

Praise be!

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Comment #145476 by Pathfinder on March 17, 2008 at 4:16 pm

It is sobering, bearing in mind the death threats to Mr Robertson and the insults levelled at myself"an idiot", etc, to see how Atheist's avoid deeling with any of the magnificent point's weve raised and how they run screeming for the trenches crying "fowl!" when anyone dare's contradict them. OK so my spelling may not be the best but it seem's my AUTODIDACTISM is more than able to hold its own against you supposidly educated people. What about Teller, Oppenheimer and dear Mr Einstein who DO'NT TELL ME knew nothing about the consequence's of his discovvery?

Im told Auscwitzz was all about failure to see other human's like oursellves but what about those injection'sof phenol into the heart, just to see what would happen? What about those experiment's on twin's, all carried out, as Churchill well said, in the light of a "preverted science"? Answer's please, dear Athiest's, but I sure as heckfire ain't holding my breath!

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Comment #145460 by Pathfinder on March 17, 2008 at 3:44 pm

Plumed Serpent or whatever youre name is yes I shoulld of said the US, not Brit's. My question thought still remain's about ATHEIST morality, or the lack thereof. Now I'm not gonna trot out those old caveat's about POL POT and HITLER as I thing the question is missleading. See how nice and Christian I am?
I am more concerend with WITHER, should rationalism and secullarism be a MODUS VIVENDI. How do we know what moral value's we implemment should be the right one's? Without Jesus example and the 10 Commandment's, of course?

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Comment #145449 by Pathfinder on March 17, 2008 at 3:31 pm

FM: are you really espousing that heretical nonsense about beeing just as important as an owl or a cockroach? By the same extension - and cant you see it? - a human is as disposable as a plastic bag? This line of thinkking goe's striaight to Auschwitzz!
I keep hearing all this drivell about the "wonder's of the universe and nature" but Mengele and his ilk said the same think.

"Everytink and everyone with respect". Hellfire and torment that way lies. Praise be!

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Comment #145436 by Pathfinder on March 17, 2008 at 3:14 pm

Philip:re Truman and the bomb. Point well made but did you know Churchill (an atheist) knew about the Pearl Harbour attack and CHOSE not to divulge it to the Brit's so'as to speed up theyre entry into WWII for munition's and arms and financial support? Thats right he was willing to SACRIFISE thousands of God-fearing American's on the alter of British Imperialism! Thats where Atheist morality lead's you!

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Comment #145421 by Pathfinder on March 17, 2008 at 3:00 pm

Fedler your a funny guy but not funny enough!You really thinjk I wood go out, either in jest or reallity, to kill people? Shame on you! Dropisspou! as we say here in the eastern med.
FM you havent answered my question: WHAT WILL YOU REPLACE RELIGION WITH, in the great Utopia of reason? Eh? Reason, taken to extreem's, kills. Read Dostoyyevskky.
Philip, sorry about the abreviation. My spelling alway's suck's.

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Comment #145412 by Pathfinder on March 17, 2008 at 2:47 pm

KK: very good point. Except that it IS used for evil purposes. I think you have a very NAIVE view of human nature. We are SATAN'S plaything, on this terrestial battleground betweeen good and evil. We are a WHITED SPULCHURRE. Get it? Just look around you, at our young, at the depravitty and FILTH in human nature! We desperately need a return to BIBLICAL MORALITY!
Look at Brittney Speer's, or if your British that Amy Winebarrel. And theese are rool model's!
Jesus wept and God forgive me!

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Comment #145392 by Pathfinder on March 17, 2008 at 2:32 pm

FM: Who said death was amusing? Did I? If so, I apologize unreservidly. It so happens a freind of mine (since '76) died last March so I can asure you I wasn't bein "amusing". I treat death extremely seriously, beleive me.

Mesomodel: how do you feel, when you walk past a churchyard at full moon? D'ya whistle a happy tune or d'ya feel, well, maybe, maybe when I meet my MAKER I wont be whistling that happy tune? Kinda like Brecht, a commy antiichrist, calling for the preist at the last gasp?

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Comment #145376 by Pathfinder on March 17, 2008 at 2:14 pm

You think joking about Mr Robertons demise, as you snidely put it, constitute's in any way a reasoned argument? All this only goe's to show what me and Clearthinker have been saying: Athiest's are FASCIST'S who wont under any circumstances brook contradiction
PROVE us wrong and deal with our UNANSWERABLE POINT'S.

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Comment #145361 by Pathfinder on March 17, 2008 at 2:05 pm

OK, so what about TELLER and OPPENHEIMER and EINSTEIN who develluped the bomb? Pretty silent now, arent we after all the stuff of the microchip and the jet engine and so on?

Look at Grays magnificent rebuttil on the 'Atheists Delusion' thread. What come's after the great elightinment? DYEING (and I mean that literally) to know....

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Comment #145344 by Pathfinder on March 17, 2008 at 1:50 pm

I see none of you has dealt with the UNANSWERABLE point's I bin raising. Surprise, surprise! Atheism is one of the worlds great evil's. Why else wood someone of Churchills statuewer refer to Natziism as a "preverted science"? Anser me that, smart guys and gall's! You cant. End of story.

Phil, I'll get back to you.

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Comment #145333 by Pathfinder on March 17, 2008 at 1:39 pm

What is a troll? I thought this was a clear-thinkning oasis and if I've offended then I apologise. The point I'm trrying to make is when your Brave New World is established then what of us, the God-fearing?

Ms Paula would obviusly like us EXTERMINATED. Welcome, Brave New Atheist World.

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Comment #145319 by Pathfinder on March 17, 2008 at 1:28 pm

SSE: While it's true I didn't progress much beyond the 10 Grade I am an AUTODIDACT(look the
word up) and I have some question's for you witch you wont be able to answer. SCIENCE is the HANDMAIDEN OF THE ANTICHRIST. Teller, Oppenheimer,
even Einstein: what did they do? Unleesh destruction on the CHRISTIAN world!
Atom bomb's and depravity and faggotism and lessbianism and comunism. The legacy of ATHEIST'S. Thank's, guys.

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Comment #145302 by Pathfinder on March 17, 2008 at 1:13 pm

OK,OK maybe I was a little immoderate! Still, God is serious bussiness and I'd thank you not to take his immortal glorius name in vain.

I take grave exepttion to the idea we crawled out of the PRIMEVIL slime. Hell is a grim and dreadful reality we all have to face, even you, Phil, who seem's like a nice guy.

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Comment #145281 by Pathfinder on March 17, 2008 at 12:59 pm

Mr peace: of course I wrote this all by myself- what do you think I am, some sort of randomly selected imbecile?

As Benjamin Disraeli said, I am on the side of the angel's, not the gibbering babbon's of ATHEISM.

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Comment #145272 by Pathfinder on March 17, 2008 at 12:45 pm

This is an extremely well maintained website with a great deal to recommend it, for the Godless. However, I feel no one is really dealing with Clearthinkers excellent point's.

I mean, come on, I take your word Atheism isn't a "belief system", but what am I supposed to think with this virtual SHRINE to Professor
Dawkin's here? It's like Graceland. It isn't moderated? Death threats, anyone, to poor Clearthinker? The loss of all those post's? C'mon guys I am a bit apalled at this hoobris.

I beleive anyone, God-fearing Christian like myself of dammned ATHEIST like you, shoulld have
a fair crack of the whip.