Comments by Goldy

1001. [UPDATED] Venomous Snakes, Slippery Eels and Harun Yahya

Comment #205793 by Goldy on July 7, 2008 at 7:32 pm

Is he copying the whole book for us? Damn, was hoping to get to see a picture...

1002. [UPDATED] Venomous Snakes, Slippery Eels and Harun Yahya

Comment #205784 by Goldy on July 7, 2008 at 7:26 pm

Bugger, some more gods arrived!
http://www.godchecker.com/pantheon/chinese-mythology.php

1003. [UPDATED] Venomous Snakes, Slippery Eels and Harun Yahya

Comment #205781 by Goldy on July 7, 2008 at 7:25 pm

That Creator is God, the Lord of the heavens and of the earth, and of all that is between them

Hmmm, one of these then?
http://www.strayreality.com/Lanis_Strayreality/gods_of_heaven_and_earth.htm

1004. [UPDATED] Venomous Snakes, Slippery Eels and Harun Yahya

Comment #205778 by Goldy on July 7, 2008 at 7:23 pm

The Creator is eternal, omnipotent and almighty.

OK, that's Baldur crossed off the list...

1005. [UPDATED] Venomous Snakes, Slippery Eels and Harun Yahya

Comment #205772 by Goldy on July 7, 2008 at 7:20 pm

If any of you exists and says I am, since this person could not have created himself, he is created. That Creator is GOD.

Ummm, would that be my mother or my father? You see, I was always under the impression it was both...

1006. [UPDATED] Venomous Snakes, Slippery Eels and Harun Yahya

Comment #205771 by Goldy on July 7, 2008 at 7:18 pm

Where's ertu gone? Probably working out how to send solid evidence through the internet. Take a picture of it, man - you can't send large objects through the wires yet! That's the postal services' job!

Edit - ah, speak of the devil and he'll appear before your comment!

1007. [UPDATED] Venomous Snakes, Slippery Eels and Harun Yahya

Comment #205769 by Goldy on July 7, 2008 at 7:16 pm

I'm Lamarkian Goldy, all my kids will have beer guts, because they are fuel tanks for love machines. grrrr....

damn, painful laughing with a slipped disc!
My daughter always wants to see things - if the Lamarck was right, she's gonna get a nice long neck from craning! :-)

1008. [UPDATED] Venomous Snakes, Slippery Eels and Harun Yahya

Comment #205765 by Goldy on July 7, 2008 at 7:07 pm

You know, Brian,

This great wisdom, design and plan that prevails overall in nature, provides solid evidence for the existence of a supreme Creator dominating over the whole of nature, and this Creator is God.

methinks this solid evidence will never be forthcoming. Ever.
Unlike scientific evidence, which, of course, is a Zionist plot for world domination...

1009. [UPDATED] Venomous Snakes, Slippery Eels and Harun Yahya

Comment #205760 by Goldy on July 7, 2008 at 7:05 pm

and this Creator is God

Which one http://ancienthistory.about.com/library/bl/bl_myth_gods_index.htm#b

1010. [UPDATED] Venomous Snakes, Slippery Eels and Harun Yahya

Comment #205759 by Goldy on July 7, 2008 at 7:04 pm

Darwinists be polite not insulting and face the truth:

Fuck you, arsehole! I'm a Wallacian!

1011. [UPDATED] Venomous Snakes, Slippery Eels and Harun Yahya

Comment #205757 by Goldy on July 7, 2008 at 7:03 pm

blah, blah, bloody Zionists, blah, blah and that purpose precludes any belief that all living things were not created no matter what the price.

But they were created. Some scientists might go along with life being introduced from outer space but most will concur that life was created. Slowly. Over aeons. Naturally.
Life was not created by one of the following http://ancienthistory.about.com/library/bl/bl_myth_gods_index.htm

1012. [UPDATED] Venomous Snakes, Slippery Eels and Harun Yahya

Comment #205754 by Goldy on July 7, 2008 at 7:00 pm

blah, blah, blah...Evolutionists define this purpose as "scientific". However, what they refer to is not science but materialist philosophy....blah, blah, blah..

Aha! So it's the fucking Zionists! I knew it, the fuckers!

1013. [UPDATED] Venomous Snakes, Slippery Eels and Harun Yahya

Comment #205753 by Goldy on July 7, 2008 at 6:59 pm

"As far as we know, all life today arises only by the reproduction of preexisting life. This "life-from-life" principle is called biogenesis"

Well, duuuh! All life today (not then, but today) arises by reproduction. Holy cow, well spotted, that man!
Now, any thought on life then?
Thinks - is a virus alive? That does not come from reproduction as you know it...
And which god? (http://ancienthistory.about.com/library/bl/bl_myth_gods_index.htm)

1014. [UPDATED] Venomous Snakes, Slippery Eels and Harun Yahya

Comment #205745 by Goldy on July 7, 2008 at 6:50 pm

And that is a well known scientific fact which prove the existence of an omnipotent Creator: GOD

Which one?

Edit - just to help you out...
http://ancienthistory.about.com/library/bl/bl_myth_gods_index.htm

1015. [UPDATED] Venomous Snakes, Slippery Eels and Harun Yahya

Comment #205743 by Goldy on July 7, 2008 at 6:48 pm

So, ertu, you like this line "I have been persuaded that it is simply out of the question that the first living matter evolved out of dead matter and then developed into an extraordinarily complicated creature."?
But!

2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

AND

2:19 And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air;

Are you sure this isn't what Flew was saying?

1016. Harper says new mosque shows 'the true and benevolent face of Islam'

Comment #205708 by Goldy on July 7, 2008 at 5:32 pm

Heheheheheh! Funny you should say that, Brian. One of my bosses here thought I was a spy or something when she looked at my CV.

I have to say I do sometimes miss Alberta....

1017. Harper says new mosque shows 'the true and benevolent face of Islam'

Comment #205707 by Goldy on July 7, 2008 at 5:30 pm

They look great. Found out they are basically the Graetzin carburettors as found on immediately pre-war BMWs.
Now I need to have a look at the final drive to see why it has decided not to turn and then i can get cracking on seeing if the old girl will start.

1018. Harper says new mosque shows 'the true and benevolent face of Islam'

Comment #205699 by Goldy on July 7, 2008 at 5:14 pm

You've done everything, mate. Next you'll be telling us you were once a lumberjack(Cue Monty Python song.)

Life's too short ot sit around, move up a corporate ladder, become a manager, etc, etc...
Must lose weight - suspenders and my bra are getting tight... ;-)

1019. Harper says new mosque shows 'the true and benevolent face of Islam'

Comment #205693 by Goldy on July 7, 2008 at 4:56 pm

I liked the Mormon reference too - as I recall Lethbridge was the Mormon Mecca in Canada, not too far from Calgary
http://www.lds.org/institutes/home/0,8473,768-1-36-60757,00.html

1020. Harper says new mosque shows 'the true and benevolent face of Islam'

Comment #205692 by Goldy on July 7, 2008 at 4:50 pm

Maybe working with oilmen in Alberta coloured my views, but I am still wondering how this was built in Calgary. Mind you, guess they could never do it in, say, Red Deer or Peace River :-)
Saying all that, I predict there will be a growing congregation for the mosque...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7493829.stm

1021. Tablet Ignites Debate on Messiah and Resurrection

Comment #205210 by Goldy on July 6, 2008 at 8:05 pm

What part of this shakes the christian faith?

I think by the fact that all of what the Gospels tell us was new and proof that God loved us was actually common talk about town for ages before Mary got knocked up by God. Jesus then was not unique - not even original.
Christianity then is not unique - it just took one of the stories prevalent at the time and fitted Jesus into it. Maybe threw in a bit of Egyptian mythology, who knows. Paul would have been conversant with this story and used it, mangling earlier "prophesies" to see if he could make people believe in them too (and given how many people would have read any religious book, as opposed to having the stories told to them) who would know?
The Christian story of Mary, Joseph and Jesus is then....a story. Already doing the rounds, just needing someone to say "Hey! I know this person!" whcih is where Paul comes in :-)

1022. Sharia law 'could have UK role'

Comment #205198 by Goldy on July 6, 2008 at 6:33 pm

The fact that they believe in untenable woo doesn't mean they aren't citizens....

Which gets us back to the D. G. Regina and Fid. Def. on the coins, the religious component of the House of Lords...etc, etc :-)
Off to an osteopath later. I still think they are quacks, but my back is on fire. Funny thing - this osteo is called Ricketts....

1023. Sharia law 'could have UK role'

Comment #205196 by Goldy on July 6, 2008 at 6:29 pm

http://www.bmsd.org.uk/articles.asp?id=18

British Muslims for Secular Democracy (bmsd) reaction over Lord Philip's views about the incorporation of Sharia Law in Britain

04/07/2008

British Muslims for Secular Democracy (bmsd) has deep reservations about the comments made by Lord Philips advocating for the incorporation of Sharia law alongside Civil law in Britain. His legal position and arguments of equality notwithstanding, a move in this direction would be detrimental to Muslims and to society as a whole.

Lord Philips' has a particular view of Islamic law and appears not to understand that there are major differences over the interpretation and implementation of Sharia amongst the various schools of thought the Muslim world. Moreover, British Muslims are not homogenous but diverse with groups and individuals holding distinct views on religious practice, cultural and social customs based on their geographical and ethnic backgrounds and their evolving European identities. Therefore there is no single set of Islamic laws that can be applied to every Muslim, in order to govern their financial and civil matters. Such an inclusion will also fail to accommodate the minority sects within British Muslim communities such as Shias and Ismailis who are often deemed as non-Muslims by the hard-line Sunni Islamic organisations operating within Britain.

bmsd believes that the concept of parallel justice systems, is, in effect, a denial of inclusion and shared citizenship. The western legal systems grant men and women equal rights under a single set of rules. Whereas some Islamic jurisprudence experts promote Sharia rules that contravene the Human Rights Act and civil liberties guaranteed under the English laws, such as freedom of expression, rights of women in cases of divorce, inheritance and testimony in court.

Dr Shaaz Mahboob of bmsd said, "Lord Philips makes generalised assumptions about the perceived will of British Muslims. Incorporation of aspects of Sharia law within the English legal system will further segregate Muslim communities from the mainstream. As result ordinary Muslims who are content living under the umbrella of the British justice system, are likely to come under unnecessary pressure from self-appointed religious representatives such as those from the Sharia Council, Muslim Council of Britain and Mosque Imams, to seek alternative avenues such as the Shaira courts to settle their disputes. This will only alienate communities and individuals from each other and create barriers which harm the social fabric of the society."

1024. Sharia law 'could have UK role'

Comment #205195 by Goldy on July 6, 2008 at 6:27 pm

http://www.bmsd.org.uk/
The society and their views.

1025. Sharia law 'could have UK role'

Comment #205193 by Goldy on July 6, 2008 at 6:25 pm

Nonsensical Sharia

Sir - The assumption by Lord Phillips (report, July 3) that interpretations of Sharia could become an alternative form of conflict resolution for British Muslim communities will merely result in further alienation and segregation.

Only hardline groups, such as the Muslim Council of Britain and the Sharia Council, have been demanding the introduction of Sharia as a parallel justice system. In a democratic society, paying heed to, and endorsing the views of, minority but vocal pro-segregation Muslim groups is nonsensical, and could be disastrous for a cohesive society.

Dr Shaaz Mahboob, Vice Chair, British Muslims for Secular Democracy, London WC1

Letter in the Telegraph. A group Fanusi has not told us about....

1026. The Boundaries of Belief

Comment #205190 by Goldy on July 6, 2008 at 6:17 pm

Isn't lack of belief in the Biblical God a poor way to identify atheists? By that criteria, Muslims are atheists, as are diests who believe an "intelligent agent" initiated the big bang and pantheists who believe God is synonymous with the cosmos. Belief that the Bible is the word of God is an even worse measure of theism

No, Muslims believe in a god (theos), as do, n a way, deists. Lack of belief in the Biblical god makes you a-Biblical God.

1027. Tablet Ignites Debate on Messiah and Resurrection

Comment #205185 by Goldy on July 6, 2008 at 6:12 pm

Going from dead to alive is a much bigger jump than going from tail-less to having a tail.

Were you alive before conception?

1028. Tablet Ignites Debate on Messiah and Resurrection

Comment #205184 by Goldy on July 6, 2008 at 6:11 pm

It was created and placed with such perfection and precision for life to be possible; you believe that to be the result of chaos?

I would also have to ask....why the other planets? Previous attempts? Failed experiments?

1029. Tablet Ignites Debate on Messiah and Resurrection

Comment #205179 by Goldy on July 6, 2008 at 6:06 pm

It was created and placed with such perfection and precision for life to be possible; you believe that to be the result of chaos? That's like saying that a from a tornado in a junkyard you would get a fully assembled Boeing 767.

Personal credulity. Life is here because the conditions are right, not the other way around. If you leave a mug of sugarry coffee on your desk, mould will form (trust me, it will. Yech!). If you put your mug in the feezer, it will not. Same coffee, different conditions. OK, I know you'll see my placement of the mug as evidence of God, we'll come to that later.

1030. Tablet Ignites Debate on Messiah and Resurrection

Comment #205177 by Goldy on July 6, 2008 at 6:05 pm

nacjho117, Why specifically God? I am also asking as he is not mentioned in Indian religious texts, Chinese religious texts or African religions (except those that came about as a result of missionary exposure). God is also absent in Pacific religions, American religions and Australasian religions.
In fact, God as we know him is only found in Levant religions derived from Judaism. Sumeria had no deity called God, neither did the Babylonians. Persian had a model for God called Zoroaster, but this god was not God. Northern Europe does not have God as an indigenous deity.
Why, then, do you assume it is a Judaic god? Solely because of the Bible?

1031. Prayer refusal pupils 'disciplined'

Comment #204872 by Goldy on July 6, 2008 at 2:50 am

Mordacious1, you aren't the only one avatarly challenged. I can't work it out either. By the time I finished getting a photo small enough for RD.net to accept it, it shows nobbut an eyeball or nose hair that poked out...
Family here, so time for me to put wee daughter to her bed and lie next to my snoring wife (pregnancy does that, apparently). So good to have them back - and don't 2 year olds change in 3 weeks.
Oh, yeah, I got my PZ28 carbs - Chinese copies of Soviet copies of German carbs, I think they are. Anyway, look suitably old enough to fit to my Ural M66.
Primering a Jeep - soon I'll be doing that to an Alfa Giulia Super :-)
Oh, yeah - kill the cancer (religion) not the patient (the people). Not all Muslims are brain dead - they can be convinced. Those that can't....I'll think of something.

1032. Christians challenge teaching of evolution

Comment #204730 by Goldy on July 5, 2008 at 3:47 pm

Apathy

On the subject of rugby, NZ - Why didn't you win the world cup?

The lack of answers shows this question is along the lines of Steve Zara's asking of David Robertson about his beliefs :-)
And yes, I have an Alfa Giulia Super, a 1973 model. Needs a lot of TLC, but it is a long term project. At the eBay/swapmeet/trawling through the internet finding parts stage.

Warzypants

My impression since migrating to NZ from the UK six years ago is that they appear much more religious here, with new churches popping up right left and centre, with generally strong baptist/Assembly of God/ Pentecostal creationist leanings.

You came over the same time as me :-) I haven't really noticed this - mind you, I got work in Auckland Uni with an English bloke with no belief in God. I haven't seen too many religious people - well, no more than I saw in the UK. Living in Glenfield, I see mainly Korean churches with just one small Samoan church opposite the wine shop (upmarket place - none of that cheap liquor store stuff). I only kow it is Samoan becasue the sign says it is a Samoan congregation of something or other...God and Jesus thingy.
Really, the only religious people I constantly see are Koreans and the odd Hong Kong Catholic. Oh yeah, the secretary in our department converted to Islam to marry her husband (they're both Fijian Indians) - mainly for the in laws as her husband is not the best of Muslims.

1033. Prayer refusal pupils 'disciplined'

Comment #204722 by Goldy on July 5, 2008 at 3:36 pm

Think I linked this story from the Torygraph over on another thread. Good to see it again ;-)
My old RE teacher was a bit of a hippy. The Devil was, we were told to consider, the dark side of God.
I don't see why kids have to do a practical on praying and if it is on offer, why they should be made to do it. I can, like others, imagine the uproar if Muslim kids had to attemd mass...well, uproar from one parent...whose kids don't even go to the school in question... Would the media blow it out of all proportion just because Islam is mentioned? Naaaah...
Steve, I believe someone did mention wanting to see your face months ago. Maybe a year ago...gosh, has it been that long?

1034. Christians challenge teaching of evolution

Comment #204499 by Goldy on July 5, 2008 at 4:38 am

Now that sounds like a mighty fine score :-)
Right, off to bed - big day tomorrow - family back. 3 weeks - man, I missed them!

1035. Christians challenge teaching of evolution

Comment #204491 by Goldy on July 5, 2008 at 4:19 am

19 points to 8, an All Black victory :-)

I smacked my head open(let out an almighty jesusfuckingchrist)...hehe 5 stiches

Dunno, mate, he might have let you off ;-)
I remember going to North Shore hospital witht eh wife - waters had broken and we were waiting for a bed for her. Bloke came in with a nail through his little finger - obviously shot it through with a nail gun. He was on the phone saying "Yeah, got a nail through my finger. Shouldn't be too long...yeah, I know, I should have been careful...yeah, I know, I'm clumsy - look, can you keep my dinner warm til I get home?" Priceless!

1036. Christians challenge teaching of evolution

Comment #204488 by Goldy on July 5, 2008 at 4:05 am

I'm trying to persuade a mate of mine to come over - he's a teacher and I'm sure qualified enough to be a head teacher. He's also an atheist, so that's be another nail in that coffin.
Ooooh, Dan's scored? No, Habana carried it over...

1037. Christians challenge teaching of evolution

Comment #204486 by Goldy on July 5, 2008 at 4:00 am

Roger

Focus on the Family is an openly political and extreme right wing organisation

Guess they are the competition. Last election we had these http://www.brethren.org.nz/ - they don't vote but that doesn't stop them trying to manipulate the outcome by financial donations.
Oh yeah, then there's Brian Tamaki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Tamaki

1038. Christians challenge teaching of evolution

Comment #204485 by Goldy on July 5, 2008 at 3:56 am

Just about caught the punch up - was ironing (OK, OK, I'll hand in my Man Card...)
Laurie

what are the laws regarding the teaching of cretinism in your schools?

I'm not sure yet - I'm hping it isn't allowed. Certainly at Auckland Uni cretinism would get you "null point"! Daughter's daycare tells me she is a "gift from God" which I object to - as I recall it was me and my wife doing the deed and she never mentions his name, no matter how good I might be.
I will find out soon, I guess....

1039. Christians challenge teaching of evolution

Comment #204483 by Goldy on July 5, 2008 at 3:52 am

So, getting back to NZ religion - did you see that drop kick? Man, that went for miles! Still missed, mind!
Good job wife is somewhere near Hong Kong (I think, by now), Daniel Carter seems to be doing a fair bit. She fancies him.

1040. Christians challenge teaching of evolution

Comment #204479 by Goldy on July 5, 2008 at 3:47 am

Heheheheheheheheheh! Aaah, mate, you crack me up :-D

1041. Christians challenge teaching of evolution

Comment #204476 by Goldy on July 5, 2008 at 3:42 am

It was never offside,fuckwit touch judge out of position and guessed incorrectly

Was hard to tell from the TV...but it might have been. Touch is a whole heap closer than we are.
Love Southern hemisphere rugby! Hope the child gestating in the wife is a boy so he can play rugby. Of course, if my daughter decides to play, who am I to stop her :-)

1042. Christians challenge teaching of evolution

Comment #204472 by Goldy on July 5, 2008 at 3:38 am

8teist - NO!

1043. Christians challenge teaching of evolution

Comment #204471 by Goldy on July 5, 2008 at 3:37 am

This article seems to imply that the only way teaching is governed and restricted in US schools is by restricting the teaching material that public schools can purchase ?

Article is about New Zealand schools. You really want to cry, read the comments. Make me worry I emigrated for nothing.
Damn, almost another try but it was offside. Exciting match :-)

1044. Christians challenge teaching of evolution

Comment #204468 by Goldy on July 5, 2008 at 3:33 am

Vaal, not to worry. There are some but they are rather quiet (well, until elections, then we find they do tinker a bit). Most of the religious I know are Pacific Islanders (who get accused of all the crime) and Koreans (who study, apparently). Main religion as far as I can tell is rugby (NZ 16, SA 8 as far as I can tell so far - don't have the Rugby Channel so watching on Prime...not live), fishing and driving really badly. I also believe there is a sub-religion involving two sects, Ford and Holden. Having an Alfa Romeo, I am waaay above both of them ;-)
I don't think the Prime Minister is particularly godly.....

1045. Muslims outraged at police advert featuring cute puppy sitting in policeman's hat

Comment #204463 by Goldy on July 5, 2008 at 3:25 am

Two to tango? Are you implying that somehow we in the UK and in the US have done something to deserve and to require our participation in the deadly Muslim jig?

Apparently Israel is our fault - we Brits apparently set it up and the US supports it. Of course the explsion of Jews from Arab lands is glossed over, as is the treatment of Palestinians in the neighbouring Arab lands. Then there's the media's treatment of Islam. How did Brian help me call it....spiral of reinforcement. Look at the links I have provided - it does seem like there is a backlash against Islam which is making them all the more defensive and at the same time assertive. Muslims don't feel comfortable in the west anymore which is why they want the comforts of home. Heck, look at the headline above, the title of this thread.
We need to treat the religion, excise that. Somehow we need to make sure that the people are treated differently. Sort of like trying to cure cancer, I guess - you want to kill the cancer without killing the person. I just sometimes feel that some think killing the religion must somehow involve punishing the person....which I am a bit uncomfortable with.

1046. Christians challenge teaching of evolution

Comment #204395 by Goldy on July 4, 2008 at 10:42 pm

GoodbyeGodNZ - thanks! That makes up more than enough for that other comment made a while ago - more than made up for that! You're in credit now :-)
Good job too - my punishment was to force you to take me to Galbraiths in Auckland and buy me beer til I fell on the floor. Hate to say it, but I appear to be able to drink a lot more than is healthy...
;-D

1047. Christians challenge teaching of evolution

Comment #204383 by Goldy on July 4, 2008 at 10:18 pm

Fuck it, I'm sending my daughter to China if this gets any worse!
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1048. Christians challenge teaching of evolution

Comment #204354 by Goldy on July 4, 2008 at 9:03 pm

Hmmmm, what a scary thought. Haven't read this in the Herald yet...but I guess soon...

1049. Muslims outraged at police advert featuring cute puppy sitting in policeman's hat

Comment #204324 by Goldy on July 4, 2008 at 6:15 pm

LGS, your post becomes a bit hard to understand near the end...

1050. Sharia law 'could have UK role'

Comment #204321 by Goldy on July 4, 2008 at 6:07 pm