Comments by irate_atheist

Comment #194783 by irate_atheist on June 17, 2008 at 9:10 am

7802. Comment #194762 by Jethro -

As an Evangelical Christian who finds creationism profoundly shallow, I'll stand with Richard Dawkins here, and hope that these shared values will prove to be deeply true either because reality is ultimately good and personal or because natural selection is somehow not as uncompassionate as it seems to be.

You clearly do not understand 'natural selection'.

Reality is ultimately good? WTF? You have any evidence for this statement?

Perhaps you could start by searching in Zimbabwe or Ethiopia for evidence of to support your 'reality is ultimately good' hypothesis.

Care to elaborate?

1002. Saving Us from Darwin

Comment #194757 by irate_atheist on June 17, 2008 at 8:38 am

160. Comment #194737 by ketch22 -

When genesis speaks of death it speaks of spiritual death as evidenced by God telling Adam if he ate of the fruit, he would die. He didn't die, but instead experienced a spiritual death.

Bullshitter alert! Another spot your own metaphor contest.

I don't wish to be rude, but we've heard it all before, and - with respect - you can fuck off.

1003. Saving Us from Darwin

Comment #194710 by irate_atheist on June 17, 2008 at 7:52 am

145. Comment #194683 by phatbat -

BTW epeeist - I've always thought ur avatar might be a famous person but never been quite sure. Someone set me straight the other day and said it was actualy you. I can't put my finger on who you look like, have you ever been told you look like someone in the public eye,

A vague resemblance, visually, to George Galloway. (Please please please don't skewer me for that. In reality you bear no resemblance whatsoever)

1004. Louisiana's latest creationism bill moves to House floor

Comment #194676 by irate_atheist on June 17, 2008 at 7:08 am

Steve, epeeist - I stand by my comment #194668 on this particular know-nothing sad-sack.

1005. Louisiana's latest creationism bill moves to House floor

Comment #194672 by irate_atheist on June 17, 2008 at 7:04 am

Quetz - I don't believe he has a dictionary, let alone any 'proof' of an existing deity.

1006. Louisiana's latest creationism bill moves to House floor

Comment #194668 by irate_atheist on June 17, 2008 at 6:53 am

188. Comment #194666 by Shmeezers -

To which I can only respond:

Fucktard

1007. Divine Impulses: Ayaan Hirsi Ali

Comment #194595 by irate_atheist on June 17, 2008 at 3:20 am

51. Comment #194574 by Fanusi Khiyal -

Sorry, RamizD, I'll just answer this bit: imagine if tomorrow all the Muslims in the world had adopted Christianity, even Bible-pounding, Pat Robertson style Christianity. Is there anyone who wouldn't heave a huge sight of relief?

Just in case you miss my answer:

I wouldn't.

1008. Discussion between Richard Dawkins and Paula Kirby

Comment #194593 by irate_atheist on June 17, 2008 at 3:17 am

374. Comment #194586 by epeeist -

However, I don't think there are many here who object to private belief.

'Private beliefs' can result in 'public actions'. I'd much rather they were educated out of such nonsense thus eliminating the risk. (No - I'm not talking about Stalinist re-education.)

Again, I don't think you will find many atheists who object to religious education.

I do. I'd much rather it was titled 'Myths and legends through the ages'

OR:

'How man made all the gods'.

1009. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #194591 by irate_atheist on June 17, 2008 at 3:11 am

7784. Comment #194584 by keith -

I wonder why RtG clung to religion in the first place. Could it be that it was the last resort?

Perhaps it was. But RtG's almost certainly drowning, not waving, whilst clinging on to the deflating lifebelt.

1010. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #193946 by irate_atheist on June 16, 2008 at 8:29 am

7431. Comment #193940 by Philip1978 -

That's one of the most disturbing images I have ever encountered in my mind.

1011. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #193937 by irate_atheist on June 16, 2008 at 8:23 am

7426. Comment #193933 by Quetzalcoatl -

Quetz - You're getting confused with his pork sword.

1012. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #193914 by irate_atheist on June 16, 2008 at 8:03 am

7418. Comment #193910 by Podaar -

Irate,

You've got to admit, this one will be hard to top.

Perhaps we should start a 'Theist's challenge of the month' contest. The winner is the person that can come up with the most insane hypothesis that attempts to twist reality to fit a religious text. txpiper, it's over to you...

1013. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #193904 by irate_atheist on June 16, 2008 at 7:53 am

7416. Comment #193899 by Podaar -

There's a new facepalm moment almost every day here. Sometimes we think we've heard it all before, and then another total whackjob turns up just to prove us wrong.

1014. Vatican bans Dan Brown film Angels & Demons from Rome churches

Comment #193879 by irate_atheist on June 16, 2008 at 7:30 am

Like I give a shit?

1015. Saving Us from Darwin

Comment #193877 by irate_atheist on June 16, 2008 at 7:26 am

87. Comment #193857 by Steve Zara -

See what I mean, people?

Indeed. Stone cold fucknuts.

1016. George W Bush meets Pope amid claims he might convert to Catholicism

Comment #193852 by irate_atheist on June 16, 2008 at 6:19 am

I'd rather George W. Bush was converted to run on LPG than Catholicism.

1017. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #193851 by irate_atheist on June 16, 2008 at 6:18 am

7413. Comment #193848 by phasmagigas -

in 'real life' the loons we get on here are probably not to far away from being sandwich board carrying street preachers, maybe already there.

If only that were the case...

1018. Holiday in Hellmouth

Comment #193844 by irate_atheist on June 16, 2008 at 6:05 am

234. Comment #193839 by BillySands -

So within his own church he has enemies.

Whereas, within his church he actually needs enemas.

1019. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #193826 by irate_atheist on June 16, 2008 at 5:10 am

7409. Comment #193821 by Steve Zara -

The problem for a flood would be to melt the ice without incinerating the Earth with the heat.

Perhaps he invented the world's first frost-free fridge-freezer.

1020. Holiday in Hellmouth

Comment #193812 by irate_atheist on June 16, 2008 at 4:29 am

216. Comment #193802 by Apathy personified -

irate, billy - congratulations on being given the title of atheist spokesperson by clearthinker, please remind him of this at every opportunity.

Hell, boy, I'm not even a spokesperson for myself.

As for his, "Anyway please feel free to continue to insult and abuse.", my response is - I certainly do and I certainly will!!!!

1021. Holiday in Hellmouth

Comment #193796 by irate_atheist on June 16, 2008 at 3:54 am

210. Comment #193792 by Corylus -

Perhaps he's trying the 'no true philosopher' approach.

Not true unless they say 'yes Mr Roberston, you're soooooo right, if we make certain assumptions, and ignore all real-world evidence.'

1022. Holiday in Hellmouth

Comment #193791 by irate_atheist on June 16, 2008 at 3:48 am

204. Comment #193783 by Tyler Durden -

Johnny, show him what he's won!

Yer Bully tankard, set of darts and a hundred and fifty quid. Now - that's safe - do yer want ter gamble the colour television, washer dryer and set of dining room furniture for Bully's special prize?

1023. Intelligent people 'less likely to believe in God'

Comment #193785 by irate_atheist on June 16, 2008 at 3:36 am

137. Comment #193753 by Vaal -

Irate

Man, you have just covered my screen in coffee. Stop it!

Stop it? What, your screen? Is it running away from the unwanted spraying? Srsly.

1024. George W Bush meets Pope amid claims he might convert to Catholicism

Comment #193756 by irate_atheist on June 16, 2008 at 2:16 am

37. Comment #193580 by MPhil -

Schreiben sie langsameres bitte. Ich bin ein ausländer.

1025. Intelligent people 'less likely to believe in God'

Comment #193751 by irate_atheist on June 16, 2008 at 2:04 am

124. Comment #192998 by clearthinker -

I have no wished to get involved in this particular thread...

I guess that's why you're not posting on it. Er.. hang on.

Bullshitter alert!

Aark aark aark!!!

1026. As the world becomes smaller, the need to understand each other's faith grows

Comment #193354 by irate_atheist on June 15, 2008 at 12:42 pm

93. Comment #193304 by epeeist -

And there was me thinking it was the Blair Foundation for God.

As a free gift when you join you get a complementary snozzcumber.

Plus detailed instructions about where to insert it.

1027. Holiday in Hellmouth

Comment #193352 by irate_atheist on June 15, 2008 at 12:40 pm

176. Comment #193328 by BillySands -

Apparently the bastards are still exempt from water charges despite a recent review

That just takes the piss!!!

(groan...)

1028. Holiday in Hellmouth

Comment #193260 by irate_atheist on June 15, 2008 at 4:50 am

169. Comment #193256 by BillySands -

Spot on.

1029. Holiday in Hellmouth

Comment #193252 by irate_atheist on June 15, 2008 at 4:27 am

165. Comment #193248 by Steve Zara -

Oh, Steve, we all know why this is the case. The support/non-support for evolution, the nice guy/bastard routine, the twisting of words and lying. The whining, the wheedling, the preening.

It is becasue he is a cunt.

(Quotemine that, David Robertson)

1030. As the world becomes smaller, the need to understand each other's faith grows

Comment #192890 by irate_atheist on June 14, 2008 at 6:32 am

Tony Blair - you're a first-class fucktard. Please feel free to have some interfaith dialogue with the Taliban. On a one-to-one basis, as it were. Hell, I'll subsidise your (one-way) ticket if you like. (I know how much you resent having to pay for anything out of your own pocket).

1031. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #192887 by irate_atheist on June 14, 2008 at 6:21 am

7152. Comment #192875 by epeeist -

As was obvious he had swallowed the pap fed to him by his pastor without thinking. One can see the pastor claiming lots of evidence for the existence of Jesus and his congregation nodding in agreement. The authoritarian nature of the arrangement ensures that they will not doubt the claim nor will they go check that it has some truth to it.

Given that - in all probability - the priest/priestess seems like a decent sort, the sheeple make the leap that they (priest/priestess) must have researched it all - in depth - so has a solid foundation for what they claim.

When one starts to look at theological writings critically, one sees that not only does the Emperor have no clothes, there is no reason to believe there is an Emperor at all...

1032. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #192805 by irate_atheist on June 14, 2008 at 1:49 am

7138. Comment #192804 by Paula Kirby -

And if we reacted with hostility to someone who came in here trying to advocate Hitler as a role model, would it be because, subconsciously, we were afraid we might be secret Fascists?

Mein Fuhrer!!!! I can walk!!!!

On another note, regarding RtG, do we think he's, you know, one of them? *cough*

1033. Discussion between Richard Dawkins and Paula Kirby

Comment #192511 by irate_atheist on June 13, 2008 at 8:38 am

304. Comment #192509 by al-rawandi -

Indeed. It is why he has to stand up to be heard properly.

1034. Discussion between Richard Dawkins and Paula Kirby

Comment #192507 by irate_atheist on June 13, 2008 at 8:27 am

292. Comment #192463 by Vaal -

Irate, fancy debating Robertson?

No. I don't want to be arrested for 'behaviour liable to cause a breach of the peace.'

1035. Fleabytes

Comment #191649 by irate_atheist on June 11, 2008 at 12:00 pm

7747. Comment #191602 by Steve Zara -

"Leave it aaaht. E ain't worf it."

To which, may I add:

"I don't care. I don't care. I don't care if 'e comes round 'ere"

1036. Logical Proof of the Existence of a Divine Creator, Why Atheism is Not Logically Sound

Comment #191576 by irate_atheist on June 11, 2008 at 8:57 am

327. Comment #191572 by latsot -

This article makes me confused and angry.

It makes me weep for the future of a highly evolved species that can be so smart, yet so dumb.

1037. Logical Proof of the Existence of a Divine Creator, Why Atheism is Not Logically Sound

Comment #191418 by irate_atheist on June 10, 2008 at 11:15 pm

293. Comment #191416 by delusionofthespecies -

Many thanks for posting this 'reply'. I'll just make a couple of comments before going to have breakfast/feed the cat/ go to work etc.

...all of which incorrectly assumed that the Creator is physical,...

What? As opposed to just plain non-existent?

That is a discussion that would involve much theology...

Really? Care to discuss my theory of pink unicorns as well, would you?

To the few of you who could do no more than write a few baseless insults.

Not baseless at all. We have your own writings to base them on!

Edit: Yomin Postelnik -If you're reading this blog, lets see if you can get pass these lemmata to 'prove' your god exists^*:

Lemma 1: The Universe was created
Lemma 2: The creator of the universe is an omnipotent, omniscient being
Lemma 3: This being, having created the universe continues to play a part in the development of the universe and all that is in it
Lemma 4: This being is specifically the deity of a particular sect of people living in one small section of one small planet circling around one particular star out of 10¹¹ others in one galaxy out of 1.5*10¹¹ others.
Lemma 5: All of this is documented in a book written approximately 2000 years ago

All the lemmas need to be demonstrated in turn. Once this has been done then you may actually have some claim to the truth of your religion.

* Credit to epeeist for supplying this originally.

1038. Logical Proof of the Existence of a Divine Creator, Why Atheism is Not Logically Sound

Comment #191415 by irate_atheist on June 10, 2008 at 11:00 pm

Why, when I read the title of this, did I think it contained the same intellectual content as, say: Borat: Cultural Learnings of America for Make Benefit Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan?

1039. Storm erupts over 'virginity' divorce

Comment #191409 by irate_atheist on June 10, 2008 at 9:32 pm

1413. Comment #191408 by black wolf -

They really are scum, aren't they?

Tolerate this bullshit?

My arse!

1040. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #191406 by irate_atheist on June 10, 2008 at 9:22 pm

6891. Comment #191399 by Diacanu -

Was T-rex gay?

If we examine the evidence, probably not:

Well you dance when you walk
So let's dance, take a chance, understand me
You're dirty sweet and you're my girl.

This seems straightforwardly heterosexual to me. Once again, txpiper fails in his mission from dog.

1041. Logical Proof of the Existence of a Divine Creator, Why Atheism is Not Logically Sound

Comment #191210 by irate_atheist on June 10, 2008 at 11:44 am

265. Comment #191153 by MaxD -

Oh, Max, I knew you'd agree with me.

1042. Logical Proof of the Existence of a Divine Creator, Why Atheism is Not Logically Sound

Comment #191138 by irate_atheist on June 10, 2008 at 9:30 am

192. Comment #190895 by Styrer-

Ok. I state and hold that 'faith is belief without evidence' and you, MaxD, have the utter fucking gall to say, frowningly, that my definition is 'a simplistic critique and missed a huge point'.

The HUGE point I miss is: faithheads mean something different; by faith, they mean they are FUCKING EVIDENCE DRIVEN.

Fuck off, Max. Not a fucking chance.

I could not give a flying FUCK what the 'faith minded' - to whom you grant an extraordinary level of understanding and sympathy in their linguistic plight - think they are doing. OF COURSE they are proceeding by faith alone, and I am tiring of your consistent and despicable apology for them, while you deride MY thoughts here.

MaxD, you've really fucking made a mess on this one.

So what is YOUR definition of 'faith', if you haven't obliterated it entirely?

Styrer

The 'faithful' believe they have evidence. They believe that The Bible (or Koran or Torah or fill in the blank) contains 'evidence'. They believe that (at least some of) the supernatural stories that are in the bible/koran/torah are literally true. (Corpses walking, walking on water, water into wine etc.) They can't grasp the idea that these are myths i.e. fiction. Just because people claim that something happened it doesn't mean that it did. A claim that 500 people saw it does not necessarily mean that 500 people did see it happen.

They then warp other things into 'evidence' for their beliefs. (Ooh, the universe is too complex for me to understand. Ooh, I needed a few quid once and then someone was kind enough to give it to me. Ooh, odd coincidences have happened in my life, the must be for a reason. Ooh, millions believe something, so it must be true)

They really believe they have 'evidence'. The problem is, they don't know evidence from a hole in the ground.

The really ignorant believe what they are told. to believe becuase they are most susceptible to the argument from authority. My dad says this so it must be true. The village elder says...the priest says...the imam says...

In a way, that they believe their faith is based on 'evidence', may be more dangerous than if it were just 'plucked' from the air. One has to show them how their 'evidence' is not evidence at all. Given that in the first instance, they believe a bunch of total bullshit is evidence, this is no easy task.

People are rationalizers. They tend to find reasons to believe what they already believe, not to look for that which questions it. They can be deluded/conned/indoctrinated into believing the 'evidence' for their 'faith' and then reach the wrong conclusion - that their faith is true.

Undoing the damage done by this way of thinking(?)- to even one individual - may take years or even be impossible. To undo the damage done to a whole species, well, you don't often see me proclaiming that the end of religion is nigh.

Steve/Styrer - Given that I'm not known for defending 'faith' or 'religion', whaddya think on my ideas?

Edit: Styrer - are you going to accuse me of being soft on 'faith''?

1043. Complex Synapses Drove Brain Evolution

Comment #191112 by irate_atheist on June 10, 2008 at 8:35 am

19. Comment #190974 by Laurie Fraser -

Then, you really watch the development carefully; unburdened, as you are, with the day-to-day chore of just keeping them alive.:)

Pah! Who says I try to keep him alive?! I'm one of those morality-free atheists, don't you know? Someone who can't be good because there's no god.

hmm..

1044. Complex Synapses Drove Brain Evolution

Comment #190968 by irate_atheist on June 10, 2008 at 2:35 am

12. Comment #190770 by Styrer-

Actually, I was expressing a desire that another decent human being could have had an experience that, from all I know of him, he would have found wonderful. I am genuinely pleased he has not missed out - as it were.

*cough* Normal service now resumed.

7. Comment #190515 by Styrer -

No scientist, I had often wondered what sparked the huge increase in size of human brains.

This fits.

It rings a bell with me that someone (Dawkins) once said that each step of an evolutionary process merely builds on what is already there and doesn't really 'invent' things (Creotards - please don't misunderstand this idea - thank you). Interesting to see how that the different paths taken by vertebrates/invertebrates evolution has impacted on the basic building blocks for intelligence.

This is the sort of research that blows holes in theist claims for separate brain/mind/soul non-sense. Their god needs to find another, smaller, gap to fit in...

1045. Logical Proof of the Existence of a Divine Creator, Why Atheism is Not Logically Sound

Comment #190577 by irate_atheist on June 9, 2008 at 9:08 am

26. Comment #190573 by Tyler Durden -

Superb idea. A line by line dissection of his bullshit would be good.

Edit: I'm sorry. I forgot to call him a fucking twat.

1046. Logical Proof of the Existence of a Divine Creator, Why Atheism is Not Logically Sound

Comment #190572 by irate_atheist on June 9, 2008 at 9:02 am

Total end-to-end bollocks and lies. Every sentence a lie, a misrepresentation or a display of gross and total ignorance. Complete and utter fucktard territory.

Edit: Did I neglect mention the author is quite clearly a cunt? No? Well, I've redeemed myself in this edit.

1047. Complex Synapses Drove Brain Evolution

Comment #190510 by irate_atheist on June 9, 2008 at 8:08 am

4. Comment #190494 by Steve Zara -

It's been amazing over the last ten months watching our son develop. The capacity for learning is astonishing and it is wonderful to watch. Learning to stand up is one thing - learning how to get back down without falling over is another(!). Absolutely fascinating to watch how progress is made and (trying) to help the process of learning along.

I wish that you could have had the same direct experience of this with children of your own, I really do. Nieces nephews etc. just aren't the same because of the reduced 'contact time'.

1048. Holiday in Hellmouth

Comment #190480 by irate_atheist on June 9, 2008 at 7:15 am

99. Comment #190473 by Styrer -

It is all sad but true. Some may think I too readily go on the attack when dogmatic theists venture here. But when a dog bites you every time you try to pat it, that dog needs to be put down.

Religion is that dog.

1049. John McCain: America a Christian nation, needs Christian president

Comment #190439 by irate_atheist on June 9, 2008 at 5:25 am

134. Comment #190437 by hungarianelephant -