1101. Commentary: Democrats finally getting religion on religion

Comment #157935 by Goldy on April 9, 2008 at 7:16 pm

Tulsa, OK and Memphis, TN? Wow - not the best examples of America!

Heheheheh - I liked them, nonethelesss :-) Some pretty good people there too, though the no selling alcohol 1000 yards around a church in Tennessee was a pisser. Never seen so many frigging churches! Oh, and Oklahoma booze strength was a joke. 3%???
NZ is nice but yes, a sod of a long way away from Europe. Takes me days to recover. But it is a place to see at least once. Come soon before it is a Chinese colony (as is the fear of the, ahem, more right wing natives...NZ has just signed a free trade agreement with China so there is a bit of fear-mongering here)

1102. Expelled Overview

Comment #157931 by Goldy on April 9, 2008 at 7:01 pm

Blind people are unable to perceive but still they can see the truth. Atheits are able to look at it but still they do not see the truth.

Truth being....?

1103. Commentary: Democrats finally getting religion on religion

Comment #157928 by Goldy on April 9, 2008 at 6:54 pm

Can I ask if you live in America? I ask because I'm afraid that non-Americans don't really get the whole story outside of our country. Yes, we have quite a large number of religious fanatics. I'd be willing to say that we are the one exception to the rule of a country's prosperity generally equating to a decline in religious influence. At the same time, we continue to make tremendous achievements in all fields of science and math.

I must confess that no, I live in New Zealand. And I was (still am, I guess) British. I did learn to drive big rigs in Tulsa, OK and I had a girlfriend in Memphis TN for a few years (she was doing a post doc at Memphis State).
I had a wee think while converting someone's blood into DNA and I realise that the US was not always the Utopia we Euros might have thought it to be. After all, if it was, Rosa Parks wouldn't have had to tell someone to sod off and get their own fucking seat :-)
I just worry when I see the strength of feeling about religion, especially this Christ cult, that seems to be so important. It appears to me that nothing else counts! Must just be the media exposure.
Not just you yanks (if I may use a Britishism) that like your country!
Carto - you don't only write about your sexuality - you have mentioned a crossbow too at times. but yes, sexuality, gender, colour, race, creed - these are all irrelevancies in the running of a country. I'm told of African-Americans, Irish-Americans (and they're all Irish, aren't they. Even the English derived ones...), Spanish-Americans, Chinese-Americans. Where are the just Americans in the media? Apart from the soldiers sweating in Iraq and being killed - they're just Americans. Why aren't the others?

1104. Commentary: Democrats finally getting religion on religion

Comment #157907 by Goldy on April 9, 2008 at 5:55 pm

I don't see anyone supplanting America in the field of space exploration anytime soon - so long as our education system continues to provide qualified scientists.

I'm not too worried about China making the next great space accomplishment. They're still trying to get a man on the Moon - something we accomplished decades ago.

i know, I know. The US still has pretty much all the main scientific establishments and more money is spent there in science than pretty much every other country.
But your last sentence "I'm not too worried about China making the next great space accomplishment. They're still trying to get a man on the Moon - something we accomplished decades ago." - why the complacency? When America put a man on the moon, China was in an orgy of cultural annihalation. Since then, what? American take pride in their man on the moon but that is like my pride in my athletic prowess 20 years ago. From utter devastation to a world economy (albeit a world economy by massaging figures), with men in rockets and science parks springing up everywhere.
But that's beside the point - my main beef is this religious shit - what the fuck does a person's religion or what fucking church he goes to have anythign to do with anything? How can thigs have gotten to this state of affairs? You said "so long as our education system continues to provide qualified scientists." - how many Dovers do these scientists have to battle before they cry enough? And why, with science being a premier American export to the world, do budding scientists have to jump through such idiotic hoops in the first place?

1105. Commentary: Democrats finally getting religion on religion

Comment #157903 by Goldy on April 9, 2008 at 5:47 pm

Unfortunatly it is difficult to win an election in America without appealing to religion and absolutly impossible to win if you're an atheist or an agnostic.

But it shouldn't be! You are a democracy - how good a democracy America is is neither here nor there as people still have to be elected to get into any political position.
You can vote and before you vote, you can question. Ask why the hell religion is so damn important. Ask why there is a perception that a person church attendance is more important than finding jobs and making sure those jobs don't go abroad. Dover showed IDiots are on their own and the Davis thing seems to suggest strongly to me that Christian hysteria is frowned upon. America is not only Christian, there are Jews, hindus, Muslims, pagans or European and Native American phylosophy, Jains, Buddhists, etc, etc. America is not just black or white but each and every race in between and they don't care who goes to what church but they do care about their kids' education and food on the table.
There are, I really think, enough athiests to ask serious questions about this hysteria about religion, specifically Christianity. Just athiests. I'm not counting agnostics or very loose religious people, culturally religious but don't care either way sort of people.
Don't be so defeatist - you DON'T have to be religious to be elected. There is a spearation between church and state in the US - why are people not fighting for that? Instead of sending in the gunboats to Mesapotamia, why not send those gunboats to make America what my grandparents thought it to be? Hell, even to what my parents thought it to be. How can things slide so fucking fast in just one generation?
Complain - complain loudly. Fuck the religious neighbours - they'll thank you for it. Shit, if your family disowns you, fuck 'em. They'll quickly come crying back when they can see what this poisonous delusion is doing.

1106. Anti-Quran Film Fitna Pulled From Web Due to 'Threats'

Comment #157891 by Goldy on April 9, 2008 at 5:27 pm

Heheheheh! Well, Bonzai, I did my bit for alternative motive technology - coating palladium onto ceramic tubes and alloying it with a variety of other metals to try and purify hydrogen. Thing is, oil is still quite cheap and readily available and the alternatives suggested and being followed now seem to involve using food to move. Guess that's showing we're reaching Malthusian levels...
Of course, just as every ethnicity and population, not everyone is the same adn not everyone is completely monolithic in thought. I say write a letter - it will probably be published - and let them know what a total fucking waste of time religion is, how stupid it is to get all uptight and offended over words regarding dead people and delusions. You can write well - do it.
As it is, I vented my spleen a bit on the democratic religious shit thread. Religion is more important to American voters than, say, the economy, than even world opinion. Spleen slowly filling again, but it'll be a while before it gushes forth again...
Think I'll write to Arab News myself now. As a bonus, they don't truncate letters like the Daily Telegraph does!

1107. Anti-Quran Film Fitna Pulled From Web Due to 'Threats'

Comment #157883 by Goldy on April 9, 2008 at 4:59 pm

Bonzai, write a letter to Arab News. letters@arabnews.com
Maybe don't mention 12th century farting too much, though ;-)

1108. Commentary: Democrats finally getting religion on religion

Comment #157882 by Goldy on April 9, 2008 at 4:57 pm

How, may I ask, did American politics get to the state where religion is deemed more important than anything else, where religion makes or breaks a candidate? American popularity is at an all time low in world perception, not just in the Middle East but in Europe, America's closest allies.
Chinese and Indians are covering Africa with roads, schools, factories, cars, bike, clothing (yes, I know, these are all exchanged for coal, iron, oil and they provide their own workers) and getting Africans excited while all I read is Americans telling Africans to not have so many children by....wait for it...not having sex. And who is helping them with this great message? Religious Europeans!
I am in awe - how a civilisation can drain itself away from the world stage by seeking points for an afterlife that evidence suggests isn't there. What about the here and now? Jobs? Housing, schooling, science, space? Sci Fi had white guys in space when I watched it - how wrong were they! Space will be Chinese and Indian. There won't be any Stars and Stripes on Mars, will there?
I guess the Handmaid's tale is truer than Attwood wanted it to be...

1109. Anti-Quran Film Fitna Pulled From Web Due to 'Threats'

Comment #157875 by Goldy on April 9, 2008 at 4:46 pm

And a couple of letter in the same publication...

Wilders Film

This is regarding the report, "Wilders Film Aims to Block Dialogue: WAMY" (March 31). Please. The movie is bad. Poorly made and simply "button pushing." But, it is not blocking dialogue at all. What should the reply to this video be? Dialogue! Tell the world why the movie is wrong. This is not the same as telling the world that the movie is dangerous and forcibly stopping it from being shown anywhere. That is dialogue blocking.


Sven H., United States published 10 April 2008


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Wilders Film [2]

Although I am a Christian I truly believe that this film is very offensive and should have been banned by the Netherlands right from the start. Why in the world are they letting this third-rate and amateur filmmaker expose one of the world's greatest religions to such vulgar and offensive insults? Don't we have enough problems with religious extremists from both sides and I am forgetting neither Bush nor Osama Bin Laden? It is time to make peace and be friends in the name of our one and only true God and all his prophets (may peace be upon them). But Muslims must not get carried away by violent demonstrations and they must understand that this entire affair has been caused by a mad and irresponsible man.



Henry Rosan, United States published 10 April 2008

1110. Anti-Quran Film Fitna Pulled From Web Due to 'Threats'

Comment #157873 by Goldy on April 9, 2008 at 4:40 pm

In Arab News..
http://www.arabnews.com/?page=1§ion=0&article=108817&d=10&m=4&y=2008&pix=kingdom.jpg&category=Kingdom

Schism â€" Saudi Blogger's Answer to Wilders Film
Ebtihal Mubarak, Arab News



A scene from the video "Schism" shows a woman activist from an extremist Christian organization preaching violence to children. (AN photo)

JEDDAH, 10 April 2008 â€" A Saudi blogger has made a six-minute video entitled "Schism" by portraying texts from Christian sources out of context, similar to the way Dutch MP Geert Wilders made his recently-released anti-Qur'an film entitled "Fitna."

In his film, Raid Al-Saeed, 33, shows verses of the Bible that call for war and illustrated them with clips of extremist Christian groups that preach violence.

"I made it in less than 24 hours. In 'Schism,' I have used the same methodology that Wilders has used and that involves taking texts out of context," he told Arab News, adding that he made the film to prove that it is incorrect to judge Islam by watching "Fitna."

This is a point that he writes at the end of his short film. "It is easy to take part of any holy book out of context and make it sound like an inhumane book. This is what Geert Wilders did to gather supporters for his hateful ideology. To create 'Schism,'" he wrote.

Al-Saeed does not believe religious books call for violence and bloodshed. He said "Fitna" is "based on hate" and that Wilders has abused the "freedom of expression that he enjoys." He added that Wilders' movie reflects "his racism and hatred."

When Al-Saeed first posted his clip on YouTube on March 1, the video was removed within 12 hours with a message from the site that the clip violated its terms.

Al-Saeed wrote back to YouTube, asking why the movie was removed while "Fitna" remained available. He uploaded the film again and added a message for the site's administrators advising them to view Wilders' film before deleting the film.

His video has been viewed over 1,800 times and has been on YouTube since March 2. It is also available for viewing on Google.

Al-Saeed insists that his aim is not to spread hate but to tell the world that you cannot judge a religion or an ideology by taking things out of context.

1111. Cult leader Pyotr Kuznetsov tries suicide after realising he was wrong about doomsday

Comment #157859 by Goldy on April 9, 2008 at 4:05 pm

I think the comments here are getting just a mite too personal now. Might just be me. It isn't enjoyable to read - I know it isn't meant to be. It is, in fact, rather uncomfortable and slightly unsettling. Is there a way things can be patched up? Indeed, is there a way thngs can be patched up without recourse to everyone else being the unwilling voyeurs?
As for the RM thing - I missed it. Time zones and stuff conspired against me here. Maybe my loss, maybe my gain, who knows.
This site is a wee haven for me. It fills those boring bits in between experiments and makes my day go by a bit more enjoyably. You may notice (bet no one does - I'm not that important...sniff, sniff :-( ) I don't post on weekends much, if at all, as my life seems to be booked pretty much all weekend. Fight then, not now. Please.

1112. Richard Dawkins: 'Growth in creationist beliefs a problem for schools'

Comment #157762 by Goldy on April 9, 2008 at 2:03 pm

Well, I hvae to say, this was actually quite....illuminating :-)
Two men at dawn to defend the honour of a) women and b) another member of the community. Fists were held up, the rules explained and a fairly honourable fight ensued.
At the interval, discussions were conducted, evidence reviewed and a consensus reached. Bloodied noses were wiped, shirts replaced and hands shook.
If only world politics were conducted like this!

1113. Get out of here, atheists!

Comment #157323 by Goldy on April 8, 2008 at 11:13 pm

Goldy, I think the editor was shooting for irony

In that case, I apologise and shall endeavour to unfuck all my comments :-)
Huzonfurst

What's going on, or is this place not as rational as it claims to be?

The site is rational but B. Gates has added some irrationality to the medium. Mind you, some people (me included) do sometimes tend to the irrationality too... ;-)

1114. Get out of here, atheists!

Comment #157301 by Goldy on April 8, 2008 at 9:36 pm

Sherman: What will you do to win the votes of the Americans who are atheists?

Bush: I guess I'm pretty weak in the atheist community. Faith in God is important to me.

Sherman: Surely you recognize the equal citizenship and patriotism of Americans who are atheists?

Bush: No, I don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. This is one nation under God.

Sherman (somewhat taken aback): Do you support as a sound constitutional principle the separation of state and church?

Bush: Yes, I support the separation of church and state. I'm just not very high on atheists.

And

Sherman: American Atheists filed the Pledge of Allegiance lawsuit yesterday. Does the Bush campaign have an official response to this filing?

Murnane: It's bullshit.

Sherman: What is bullshit?

Murnane: Everything that American Atheists does, Rob, is bullshit.

Sherman: Thank you for telling me what the official position of the Bush campaign is on this issue.

Murnane: You're welcome

And

"This is the Land of Lincoln where people believe in God," Davis said. "Get out of that seat . . . You have no right to be here! We believe in something. You believe in destroying! You believe in destroying what this state was built upon."

1115. Get out of here, atheists!

Comment #157298 by Goldy on April 8, 2008 at 9:28 pm

Why are Atheists so angry?!!

Mostly because we're tired of fucking religious gobshites thinking they rule the roost because they have some fucking delusions about fairies in the sky.
Any more fucking stupid questions? No? Fuck off then.
Fuckwit.

1116. Richard Dawkins: 'Growth in creationist beliefs a problem for schools'

Comment #157284 by Goldy on April 8, 2008 at 8:37 pm

Stryer, let Richard Morgan fight RIchard Morgan's battles. PM Al if you must be belligerent.

1117. Richard Dawkins: 'Growth in creationist beliefs a problem for schools'

Comment #157180 by Goldy on April 8, 2008 at 4:07 pm

Bonzai - good point re Chinese medicine. It is something the wife and I havae wee disagreements over :-)
Despite my protestations that religion will stunt science in the west and that the east will take over, I have read that most of the research facilities are in the west (the US, of course), that more money is spent in the US on pure science than anywhere else and that the political climate in China (not sure about India) means that science is a more technological based discipline, with emphasis on usable results.
However, I still wonder...

1118. Richard Dawkins: 'Growth in creationist beliefs a problem for schools'

Comment #157173 by Goldy on April 8, 2008 at 3:52 pm

China was very advanced technologically but it had never had science in the proper sense

Surely to advance technologically you need to understand the principles...isn't that science?

1119. Richard Dawkins: 'Growth in creationist beliefs a problem for schools'

Comment #157141 by Goldy on April 8, 2008 at 3:21 pm

With doctors it is even worse.

Bonzai, amen to that!
I wonder if your thoughts could explain how Islamic engineering flourished in the European Dark ages given they had all the classical Greek texts. I would have thought they would have expanded on them as they did given the time they had.
Maybe that's why science was so far advanced in China and India in the past and why it will probably be so again in the future.
Idle musings on my part...

1120. Richard Dawkins: 'Growth in creationist beliefs a problem for schools'

Comment #157134 by Goldy on April 8, 2008 at 3:17 pm

It is a quality bit. I was supposed to write an article for them, but I couldn't bring myself to be positive about Saudi Arabia, so I sort of dodged it.

Al, not everything written in there is complimentary to Saudi culture. Heck, some of the letters they publish are really scathing! Pen a few words - all they can do is edit it a bit :-)

1121. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #157128 by Goldy on April 8, 2008 at 3:12 pm

I just said he was hypocritically whining. Just wanted to clarify.

OK then, I'll accept that :-) After all, he is just a man.
Sucks to be you, mind. You have to take what your Jesus (or deity of choice) says as...errr...gospel. Woe betide you question him! ;-) (Joke! Only needling you ;-D)

1122. Richard Dawkins: 'Growth in creationist beliefs a problem for schools'

Comment #157121 by Goldy on April 8, 2008 at 3:05 pm

Al

Arab News??? I know the editor, Khalid Ma'eena.


Didn't know you liked them

Nary a day goes by without me reading it. Having spent some formative years of my life in the Middle East, I have a soft spot for the culture and the people. Probably why I found Tim MacKintosh-Smith's Travels of a Tangerine such a good read :-)
I thoroughly recommend Arab News to everyone here!
www.arabnews.com

1123. Richard Dawkins: 'Growth in creationist beliefs a problem for schools'

Comment #157117 by Goldy on April 8, 2008 at 3:01 pm

I want to know why. Why can't God direct an average doctor to say you?

Why did God make the ailment in the first place? Why test their faith by giving them said aliment? Why can't prayer alone heal? Loads of whys! Yet no one ever thinks about the doctors time, his or her training, years of debt and study...
Internet getting slow here in Aotearoa - at least, it is in my house (at home with a cold. Why make viri, god? WHY???)

1124. Richard Dawkins: 'Growth in creationist beliefs a problem for schools'

Comment #157110 by Goldy on April 8, 2008 at 2:58 pm

Yussel, I know that there are traditions of discourse - Arab News mentions it quite often. I was trying to say that the traditions were, at persent, stronger before. Merely pointing out your use of tense. Religiosity, at present, does not seem to be wuilling to hear any dissenting voices. It may do again in the future.

1125. Richard Dawkins: 'Growth in creationist beliefs a problem for schools'

Comment #157103 by Goldy on April 8, 2008 at 2:53 pm

Religious people, who do not hesitate to go to doctors, use the phone, fly in airplanes, drive cars, use computers, etc., will tell you with a straight face that science is unreliable.

Religious people will go to a hospital, be seen by doctors, undergo operations that save their lives and still claim they were saved by prayer... :-)

1126. Richard Dawkins: 'Growth in creationist beliefs a problem for schools'

Comment #157094 by Goldy on April 8, 2008 at 2:49 pm

I mean to say that even WITHIN religious traditions, there is room for open discussion based on sane principles.

Are you sure you used the right tense here? I think religiosity has hardened somewhat of recent. Maybe soon it will soften enough for us to have proper discourse, but not at the current time we can't.

1127. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #157086 by Goldy on April 8, 2008 at 2:45 pm

Aaron9, what was the point of your initial post? That Dawkins was lying? In a whiny tone? I guess you could read it as that, but then again, I believe this was a fairly private thing t people of like minds (sort of thing one does in a pub), hence the tone.
Have to say that the theists didn't come out too well in this either.
Calling Dawkins an ayatallah doesn't make sense either - ayat Allah refers to the Jewish god in it's Arabian manifestation. Dawk don't believe in God, so he can't be an ayatallah :-) Sorry to be pedantic. He can be a guru, however - I guess you can say he is, though many people, I believe, use this site as a club, a place to escape the religiousity of life (just think how much it influences us - hard to escape, I can tell you!). It is a sounding board of a place, where theories can be discussed and where those taking those faltering first steps without the cloying blanket of gods smothering their thoughts and feelings can breath deeply without fear of persecution.
But, staying on topic, I haven't read RD's piece above in any national paper (I read a few online), so I can only presume the tone was for a more private audience :-)

1128. Richard Dawkins: 'Growth in creationist beliefs a problem for schools'

Comment #157072 by Goldy on April 8, 2008 at 2:34 pm

Hmmm, must have missed something.
Anyway, I agree with Frankus in comment #157062 and with Bonzai and yussel123. Don't forget the power of education, mind. While a child might be too young to remember 11/9, the impact shouldn't be completely diminished. After all, that's the reason, aparently, why we are in some war against terror...
WWII ended about 22 years before I was born, but I still heard all about it and knew of it's impact. Knew of generals, politicians and battles - all from education. The impact was strong to me still.
If you want to find out how education can really impact of the memory of people, read any BBC Have Your Say on Tibet. Not the English language version is open to Chinese, they are flexing their typing fingers and giving vent to waht they see as gross distortion. This, of course, is becasue they were taught one thing and we in the west taught another...
I dare say of cretinism is taught as a scientific fact, we'll get the same thing happening here. Luckily for scientific progress, the east doesn't have that problem, so they'll take over, gladly.

1129. Get out of here, atheists!

Comment #156472 by Goldy on April 7, 2008 at 3:44 pm

This is the article I meant
http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200707/religion

1130. Get out of here, atheists!

Comment #156468 by Goldy on April 7, 2008 at 3:40 pm

Richard - have you read the comments in the Chicago Tribune blog? I think her mouth has done all the work for athiests :-)
Dr B - I remember seeing a time magazine cover from the 70s (I think) asking if God was dead. I read an article that said the trend in America now is for less God and more secularity while Europe has the pendulum swinging the other way. While I found a lot of the Americans I knew rather "religious", they were religious in the Homer Simpson way....

1131. Cult leader Pyotr Kuznetsov tries suicide after realising he was wrong about doomsday

Comment #156462 by Goldy on April 7, 2008 at 3:32 pm

Wow. And all because someone told people to live in a cave then tried to kill himself in a cartoonish fashion.
I also never realised Americans used twat - Dr B, you're a font of pretty useful information :-)
Diacanu, you forgot to link your "fucks" with "fuckety". Have to admit, mind, it was like someone opening a window and letting some fresh air in! :-D

1132. Richard Dawkins: 'Growth in creationist beliefs a problem for schools'

Comment #156435 by Goldy on April 7, 2008 at 2:42 pm

Steve

I'm a Darwinist regarding evolution.

Heretic! I'm a Wallacian! The only true evolutionists! :-)
Sorry, got a headache and I'm tired. Thought I'd cheer myself up... ;-)

1133. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #156092 by Goldy on April 6, 2008 at 5:06 pm

Good point. Why did God not make people as they are now then? Why all the waiting? The evolving, the finding stuff out....
Mind you, preaching to the converted, aren't we :-) You believe in God but not God as, say, the fundies believe. You believe in God as I would if I believed.
Odd thing, this religion thing. We all do it (as cultures, not people) even though the evidence around us points to there not being gods. Even if we don't believe in gods, we still evolve a religion so we can have somewhere to pray and meditate etc. The notion is so very intrinsic in us that we can't really see the absurdity of it all - indeed, we show great respect to those that wish to dress up funny and make pronouncements on our behaviour, indeed, on our very lives.
So very odd...

1134. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #156089 by Goldy on April 6, 2008 at 4:53 pm

Hello fstaheli!

I believe in God, that he created this earth

Why do you believe this?
Of course, i can be convinced of some extra terrestrial origin for life (panspermia, etc) but I personally cannot envisage why life should be brought to this planet by a god who presumably had a reason for it.
How would your feelings be if there was life on another planet - or even if life can be found in this solar system (say, Martian fossils, ummm, whatever that ice moon of Jupiter is called...etc)?

1135. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #156074 by Goldy on April 6, 2008 at 4:03 pm

Vadjong, we'll be accused of being Know-it-alls, a most dangerous athiest sect!
Still, better that than being an entemologist - they think they're the in sect! ;-D

1136. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #156052 by Goldy on April 6, 2008 at 2:58 pm

What did I miss?
Typical - go out, enjoy life, come back, log on and there's a fundy buggering off claiming he has a life to lead.
Liked this, though

The idea is absurd. Atheism is an absence of belief.

You believe that strongly, do you?

One must believe in the absence of belief? Eh? Poor deluded fool - can't think outside the church!
As it is, I don't believe, I know :-)

1137. Anti-gay Okla. lawmaker attracts 1,000 backers

Comment #154820 by Goldy on April 3, 2008 at 7:02 pm

The oldest democracy is Switzerland, I think...

Not Iceland? Or the Isle of Man? Do the Swiss really count as I believe they didn't allow the women the vote until quite recently (quick google - http://www.swissworld.org/en/people/women/the_right_to_vote/ - aaah, yes)

1138. Beware the Believers

Comment #154818 by Goldy on April 3, 2008 at 6:56 pm

Let's just hope I can avoid their fate then...

Cheeky feller ;-D

1139. Biology prof expelled from screening of 'Expelled'

Comment #154793 by Goldy on April 3, 2008 at 5:59 pm

Theonlythingtofear, what flood?
Grand canyon would be a good discussion. Very interesting. Not here, though - not the right pplace, I believe.
So, you don't like athiest evolutionists? What sect - Wallacian or Darwinian? What are your views on religious evolutionists?

1140. Beware the Believers

Comment #154786 by Goldy on April 3, 2008 at 5:52 pm

upsidedawn, as I said before...
A Christian blowjob is done for the glory of God and in the knowledge that Jesus Christ is his only begotten son.
An athiest one is done for pleasure.
Strange to think the only thing different between athiesm and belief is a god or two. Everything else is just the same :-)

1141. Pastor attacks scientist's talk

Comment #154780 by Goldy on April 3, 2008 at 5:41 pm

Next time someone says "Darwinism" or "Evolutionist", I'd love to see the scientist on the other side say "Excuse me?" or "Sorry, I don't know what you mean"

I like your contribution. With regards to your line above, I generally tell people I'm a Wallacian myself ;-)

1142. Anti-gay Okla. lawmaker attracts 1,000 backers

Comment #154778 by Goldy on April 3, 2008 at 5:38 pm

Indeed. In fact I think it should be made compulsory for all attractive young men between the ages of 16 and 25 - strictly for the good of society you understand...

And the arbiter of beauty will be...?
Besides, all cats are grey in the dark, as someone once told me.
Can China still be considered a continuation of...well, ancient China?

1143. Beware the Believers

Comment #154771 by Goldy on April 3, 2008 at 5:25 pm

Anna, you had to ask...
http://ohprettylady.blogspot.com/2006/07/how-to-give-good-christian-blowjob.html

1144. Beware the Believers

Comment #154752 by Goldy on April 3, 2008 at 4:52 pm

upsidedawn
A Christian blowjob is done for the glory of God and in the knowledge that Jesus Christ is his only begotten son.
An athiest one is done for pleasure.
Kardy

The atheist will bite you if you call out to God during your rapture

Nah, just a little nip to heighten the pleasure ;-)

1145. Anti-gay Okla. lawmaker attracts 1,000 backers

Comment #154749 by Goldy on April 3, 2008 at 4:46 pm

Studies show no society that has totally embraced homosexuality has lasted more than a few decades

Jumping in late, but a lot of the refutations have been Euro-centric. As Bonzai pointed out in another thread, China has a rather long history of embracing and tolerating homosexuality :-) And the recent intolerance is.....a western import, by missionaries.
Check it out in Wikipedia and other sources.

1146. Beware the Believers

Comment #154639 by Goldy on April 3, 2008 at 2:27 pm

Think I must work on my typing too - my spelling is awful!

1147. Beware the Believers

Comment #154637 by Goldy on April 3, 2008 at 2:26 pm

Corylus, I think Al mentioned something about this recently. Rifles are good for shooting long distances but are ratehr irksome in wooded areas. Hand guns are not as accurate, but rather easy to carry adn if the prey is quite close, the accuracy is of sufficient levels as to make them very efficatious (forgive spelling).
I used to love rifle shooting at school. Still have an air rifle. Haven't shot at living things - supermarkets adn butchers cater to that for me, but there is something rather...magically fun in aiming at and hitting a target.
Takes all sort, I guess.
My wife used to do pistol shooting - I beleive she shot for her province in China

1148. Beware the Believers

Comment #154623 by Goldy on April 3, 2008 at 2:12 pm

Becomethe arrow - now that was one weird person! Wonder if he's still screaming in the alternate thread?

1149. Whale 'missing link' discovered

Comment #154610 by Goldy on April 3, 2008 at 1:59 pm

aragorn2007, you're joking, eh?

1150. Beware the Believers

Comment #154599 by Goldy on April 3, 2008 at 1:41 pm

Al, yes, I did. Name dancing at the dark recesses of my mind....had to find out :-)
I like Kardy too - he's OK. Can be annoying, but then so can my wife and daughter. Part of what makes people so enjoyable at times :-)