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Comments by Quetzalcoatl


1201. Fleabytes

Comment #142287 by Quetzalcoatl on March 12, 2008 at 9:03 am

ForestMist-

but not all rabbits are as kind as the Easter Bunny.....

1202. Fleabytes

Comment #142280 by Quetzalcoatl on March 12, 2008 at 8:52 am

ForestMist-

if it's any consolation, several of the children were later found dead in their beds. Police said that they appeared to have been beaten to death with carrots.

1203. Fleabytes

Comment #142261 by Quetzalcoatl on March 12, 2008 at 7:56 am

ForestMist-

Can't you just take my word for it?


Well, it goes against my every sceptical instinct, but ok.

1204. Fleabytes

Comment #142256 by Quetzalcoatl on March 12, 2008 at 7:45 am

Forestmist-

where's the evidence that the photo was taken at Easter?

1205. Fleabytes

Comment #142243 by Quetzalcoatl on March 12, 2008 at 7:20 am

ForestMist-

I disagree. You've proven the existence of a Bunny, but that looks more like the Autumn Bunny to me, not the Easter Bunny.

1206. Fleabytes

Comment #142181 by Quetzalcoatl on March 12, 2008 at 6:00 am

Epeeist-

too often in this context "metaphorical" seems to mean "has been shown to be wrong". But then even the believers can't agree on what is and isn't metaphor.

1207. Fleabytes

Comment #142174 by Quetzalcoatl on March 12, 2008 at 5:44 am

Richard Morgan-

I was wondering why soul-less atheists generally write more interesting stuff than the theists


This is probably a horrible generalisation, but I think on the whole we atheists are more open to new ideas, and that influences our thinking and discussion.

1208. Fleabytes

Comment #142157 by Quetzalcoatl on March 12, 2008 at 5:01 am

whatthe..?!

the point is that you can't just define something as a moral absolute and leave it at that. You have to have some evidence to back up your position. Clearthinker provided none.

1209. Fleabytes

Comment #142138 by Quetzalcoatl on March 12, 2008 at 3:54 am

Richard Morgan-

I think you'll be pleased to know that while reading the FCOS forums I try whenever possible to listen to a certain composition of yours. It IS very appropriate.

1210. Fleabytes

Comment #142129 by Quetzalcoatl on March 12, 2008 at 3:43 am

Clearthinker-

adding to what Billy said:

Even if you were to assert that God IS the source of an Absolute moral law, you would still have to deal with the fact that God has no problem killing, drowning and generally causing suffering when it suits his needs. If God can do that, then how can you justify holding him up as the pinnacle of morality?

1211. Fleabytes

Comment #142118 by Quetzalcoatl on March 12, 2008 at 3:10 am

Steve, Diacanu-

never fear, Clearthinker has provided examples!

Certainly. All human beings are created equal. Racism is wrong. Dachau was wrong. These are moral absolutes

1212. Fleabytes

Comment #142113 by Quetzalcoatl on March 12, 2008 at 3:00 am

Clearthinker-

You also don't like my view of humans beings - including myself. But you give no reason for this. I can evidence the depravity of the human heart. You want to feel that we are good and you can offer no real evidence for it. Its true that I cannot argue against your feeling. But I can at least point out that it is just that - a feeling.


The depravity of the human heart. What does that even mean? It means that you feel that the human heart is depraved. In response to this you might point out bad things that happen in the world. But there are good things too.

Humanity is not depraved, much as it might suit you to believe so. I thought atheists were supposed to be the nihilistic ones!

Try telling that to the woman dying of cancer as you sit beside her bed and she is crying out in pain ' this is not an evil' just a powerful survival tool!'


You are being disingenuous here, and I think you know it.

No. If we are delivered from our selfishness and enabled to live lifes which are serving others then it benefits the whole of society.


This statement is telling. I disagree. We do not need someone else to deliver us from our selfishness. We can do it for ourselves.

1213. Richard Dawkins' US Tour begins this week

Comment #142106 by Quetzalcoatl on March 12, 2008 at 2:49 am

Philip1978-

It's alright, but "timeless classic" might be stretching it a little.

1214. Fleabytes

Comment #141931 by Quetzalcoatl on March 11, 2008 at 12:06 pm

Paula-

good post on the FCOS site.

1215. Fleabytes

Comment #141839 by Quetzalcoatl on March 11, 2008 at 9:30 am

Paula-

I haven't yet noticed her giving many examples about precisely HOW this censorship will be going on. Funny, that.

1216. Fleabytes

Comment #141819 by Quetzalcoatl on March 11, 2008 at 8:58 am

Philip-

but which type of quark? There are six of them, yet we only need two. That leaves four.

Hmm.

Father.
Son.
Holy Ghost.
...?

1217. Fleabytes

Comment #141817 by Quetzalcoatl on March 11, 2008 at 8:56 am

Fides-

and the moral awareness of Catholicism that is lacking in secular society.


Yes, of course. Use of condoms and failure to recycle being principal among the revised Deadly Sins.

By "moral awareness" did you perhaps mean "ability to make things up as they go along while somehow managing to keep a straight face and still act as if they are doing the world a great favour by imparting this wisdom?"

1218. Fleabytes

Comment #141812 by Quetzalcoatl on March 11, 2008 at 8:47 am

Epeeist-

and anecdotes about fencing. Mustn't forget those.

:-)

1219. Fleabytes

Comment #141805 by Quetzalcoatl on March 11, 2008 at 8:31 am

Philip-

God is behind everything. That's why you can't see him. Bless him, he's just shy.

1220. Fleabytes

Comment #141754 by Quetzalcoatl on March 11, 2008 at 6:54 am

Clearthinker-

Yes I am. I am totally amazed at the Universe. So much so that I cannot conceive of it as being self-existent, or having come from no where and nothing.


Perhaps you merely lack imagination.

1221. Fleabytes

Comment #141748 by Quetzalcoatl on March 11, 2008 at 6:49 am

Paula Kirby (re 4452)-

in my apparent unsalaried capacity as the RD.net FCOS news correspondent, I note that the post in question has now appeared, along with an immediate refutation:-

http://www.fcosonline.org/index.php?topic=5.msg186;topicseen#msg186

1222. Should Galileo's tomb be opened for DNA tests?

Comment #141634 by Quetzalcoatl on March 11, 2008 at 1:50 am

Good grief, a comment from LeeC. You haven't been on this site in ages!

1223. Fleabytes

Comment #141549 by Quetzalcoatl on March 10, 2008 at 3:33 pm

Steve-

any news on your rebuttal re the Bnonn debate?

1224. The Salamander's Tale

Comment #141345 by Quetzalcoatl on March 10, 2008 at 9:36 am

Wooter-

stop trying to aggravate Philip.

He doesn't believe in God, so he's not angry at him for his illness. He's angry at the IDEA of God that you keep spouting. He's not being evasive.

Stop being a f*ckwit.

1225. Seven new deadly sins: are you guilty?

Comment #141331 by Quetzalcoatl on March 10, 2008 at 9:24 am

Envy Put in freezing water
Lust Smothered in fire and brimstone


If you notice, the punishments for these two sins actually cancel each other out.

Envious lusting is the way to go!

Sloth Thrown in snake pits
Gluttony Forced to eat rats, toads, and snakes


Although you could also be a slothful glutton, then you'd get thrown into a pit of food.

See, hell isn't that bad!

1226. Should Galileo's tomb be opened for DNA tests?

Comment #141321 by Quetzalcoatl on March 10, 2008 at 9:12 am

Is it any less disrespectful than what the Catholic Church is doing with the remains of Padre Pio?

Hypocrisy, thy name is Catholicism.

1227. Seven new deadly sins: are you guilty?

Comment #141316 by Quetzalcoatl on March 10, 2008 at 9:08 am

Here's a question-

is there anything else the Catholic Church could do to make it any more obvious that they are making things up as they go along?

1228. The Salamander's Tale

Comment #141273 by Quetzalcoatl on March 10, 2008 at 8:22 am

MPhil-

I don't know about Wooter, but you've certainly stumped me. I'd have no idea where to even start with that logical proof. Let's see how Wooter does...

Wheeler-

I can't guess who you are either. Although I did suspect something was up when you actually put up an avatar. Most believers don't.

1229. The Salamander's Tale

Comment #141248 by Quetzalcoatl on March 10, 2008 at 7:54 am

Does anyone else smell that?

1230. The Salamander's Tale

Comment #141230 by Quetzalcoatl on March 10, 2008 at 7:31 am

Wheeler-

but I think that since science is restricted to the natural and physical world by definition, it goes without saying that it doesn't apply to non-natural, non-physical things.


Wrong. Science is not merely restricted to the physical world. Supernatural explanations can be considered, but they are subject to examination in the same way that natural ones are.

By point of example, controlled scientific studies are being carried out by reputable scientists into "the power of prayer".

1231. Fleabytes

Comment #141216 by Quetzalcoatl on March 10, 2008 at 7:12 am

I can haz diffrnt mezza barz. Srsly.

1232. The Salamander's Tale

Comment #141205 by Quetzalcoatl on March 10, 2008 at 7:02 am

hungarianelephant-

This is clearly a wind-up. I hoped it was you. Evidently not


I'm just curious- what made you think it was me?

1233. The Salamander's Tale

Comment #141188 by Quetzalcoatl on March 10, 2008 at 6:48 am

Wheeler-

God might get around to you, but, c'mon. A flamming mirror for one hand, feathers, and a snake for the other hand? Who'd worhsip that?


Come on, that's not how I appear now. You've got to move with the times, man...

And as for worshippers, I have plenty. Reason being that I provide positive evidence for my existence, this very comment being a prime example.

1234. The Salamander's Tale

Comment #141175 by Quetzalcoatl on March 10, 2008 at 6:33 am

hungarianelephant-

Quetz, is that you toying with us?


No. I can spell and my grammar and vocabulary is superior. :)

Wheeler-

8) He killed them them all, because he is the best; Anselm at el


BUT I LIVE!

1235. Out of the Blue

Comment #141154 by Quetzalcoatl on March 10, 2008 at 5:59 am

Steve-

It is a good blog. I have forgotten the URL. Could you post it on this forum for me?


But of course, Steve. Here it is:

http://musingsofastrangemind.blogspot.com/

1236. Out of the Blue

Comment #141151 by Quetzalcoatl on March 10, 2008 at 5:51 am

Steve-

If someone is insisting that there is influence from another realm, it is perfectly reasonable to ask to be shown that realm, and how that influence is achieved, otherwise it is perfectly acceptable to file what they say under "just making stuff up".


Then that gets countered by the old "God works through natural laws" argument. Which sounds good in theory, but then you might as well ask (as I did in my last blog post), why not just say that the all-powerful purple hippo works through natural laws? There's just as much evidence for it.

1237. Out of the Blue

Comment #141142 by Quetzalcoatl on March 10, 2008 at 5:28 am

Steve-

then you have to wonder how a transcendent deity beyond space and time can actually do anything in the Universe; bar perhaps setting it up to begin with.

1238. The Salamander's Tale

Comment #141136 by Quetzalcoatl on March 10, 2008 at 5:18 am

They're also going backwards through the W's. The next one will be Weirdo.

1239. The Salamander's Tale

Comment #141132 by Quetzalcoatl on March 10, 2008 at 5:12 am

Geoff-

no. Nobody was praising him there.

Wheeler-

stop it. Just stop it. And learn to spell.

1240. Out of the Blue

Comment #141124 by Quetzalcoatl on March 10, 2008 at 5:03 am

Steve-

calm down. Lay off the Nescafe.

Richard Morgan-

you could argue that for the creation of a Universe. But as far as the creation of this specific Universe is concerned, with life, sandstone, traffic cones and Wooter, you could argue that you would need some hefty computational resources in order to be able to tweak things at the beginning in just such a way that this is how it would turn out.

1241. Out of the Blue

Comment #141121 by Quetzalcoatl on March 10, 2008 at 4:37 am

Geoff-

But surely we (humans) would be its gods


A quick scan of the Internet would swiftly change the AI's opinion on the matter.

1242. Fleabytes

Comment #141103 by Quetzalcoatl on March 10, 2008 at 3:17 am

Paula-

well, I think people on this thread are currently far too happy. Something needs to be done about that. :)

Not a peep from him on here or on FCOS. US Tour must be going well(!)

1243. Out of the Blue

Comment #141100 by Quetzalcoatl on March 10, 2008 at 3:11 am

Evidennnccceee....

Tessssttabbbllleee evvvideennnceee....

1244. Out of the Blue

Comment #141094 by Quetzalcoatl on March 10, 2008 at 2:58 am

Brainsssssss...

Brrraaaaaiiiinnnnssssssss......

Sorry.

1245. The Salamander's Tale

Comment #141088 by Quetzalcoatl on March 10, 2008 at 2:47 am

Wipeout-

on a different subject.

You keep talking about websites where Wooter is being praised. Please provide us with the links so we can go and see for ourselves.

1246. Fleabytes

Comment #141079 by Quetzalcoatl on March 10, 2008 at 2:23 am

Richard Morgan-

more excellent compositions. Well done.

You're doing a good job of keeping the thread alive at the moment, where is Clearthinker when you need him? :)

1247. Out of the Blue

Comment #140687 by Quetzalcoatl on March 8, 2008 at 10:52 am

JD Cherry

Before anything resembling consciousness could arise from a simulated brain you'd need a simulated body. I'm sure of that


What makes you so sure?

1248. Christopher Hitchens on Real Time with Bill Maher

Comment #140620 by Quetzalcoatl on March 8, 2008 at 2:53 am

Geoff-

ha, yes it does! He may also be a little baaa-rmy.

1249. Christopher Hitchens on Real Time with Bill Maher

Comment #140616 by Quetzalcoatl on March 8, 2008 at 2:36 am

Shmeezers-

This clip just shows how arrogant these people really are, and how clouded their judgment becomes because of it. Carry on, you sheep; buy into it


IRONY ALERT. A believer just accused atheists of being sheep.

1250. When blasphemy bit the dust

Comment #140491 by Quetzalcoatl on March 7, 2008 at 2:35 pm

If Jesus Christ exists, and if Jesus Christ in his Godlike form was capable of creating the universe, then he could quite easily hack the bit of leftwing obscurantism and b-mindedness that writes things such as Jerry Springer: The Opera. If he does not exist, nothing will happen. If he does exist, it is up to him to get hold of the chap who wrote it and make sure that he does time in the diabolical house of correction.


The Earl of Onslow has a good point here. Blasphemy laws are superfluous. If God exists, he doesn't need us to defend him.

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