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Comment #193591 by ReceivedTheGift on June 15, 2008 at 8:49 pm

Romans 1:18-20 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who supress the truth by their wickedness, since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities-his eternal power and devine nature-have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.

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Comment #193585 by ReceivedTheGift on June 15, 2008 at 8:42 pm

To All


Psychological Definition of Defensive:

Constantly protecting oneself from criticism, exposure of one's shortcomings, or other real or perceived threats to the ego.

That's why the first step to your salvation is to humble yourselves.

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Comment #193575 by ReceivedTheGift on June 15, 2008 at 8:34 pm

To All

The desire to know God is innate in all of us. Be truthful to yourselves. This is why this discussion is so terrifying to you, because it is hitting a cord which you are not aware of. This is what's causing the bitterness and aggression towards me. I understand. It's ok.

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Comment #193569 by ReceivedTheGift on June 15, 2008 at 8:25 pm

Brian English

Evidence of Macroevolution or a transitional fossil please. Evidence has to be something we can both examine. Not something you infer.

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Comment #193565 by ReceivedTheGift on June 15, 2008 at 8:21 pm

Goldy

No need to be frightened. The Lord wants all to call him Father. Unfortunately, too many let their close mindedness reasoning, restrict them in seeing the beauty God has created all around them.

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Comment #193558 by ReceivedTheGift on June 15, 2008 at 8:12 pm

Goldy

Hi. Hope you are doing well. Any changes yet in your desire to fill the void in your heart? The feelings you should be feeling soon is the the Holy Spirit. You first might see signs in the people around you. Ask Kelv if he has experienced anything yet.

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Comment #193219 by ReceivedTheGift on June 15, 2008 at 12:43 am

epeeist

Are you INFERRING that I have not read this before? That's your problem. You base so much of what you take as fact by accepting INNFERENCES as facts.

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Comment #193209 by ReceivedTheGift on June 15, 2008 at 12:18 am

epeeist

I thought you keep stating that this forum is about Evolution not Creation. Why then do you keep asking me to show you evidence of a Creator. Why don't you show me evidence of Macroevolution? The purpose of this forum.

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Comment #193206 by ReceivedTheGift on June 15, 2008 at 12:13 am

Quine

Macroevolution?
Macroevolution?
Macroevolution?

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Comment #193200 by ReceivedTheGift on June 15, 2008 at 12:08 am

Brian English

I've given it to you. I can't force you to accept it.

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Comment #193197 by ReceivedTheGift on June 15, 2008 at 12:05 am

Goldy

Anger and bitterness is no way to live your life. Look for inner peace through Jesus. It truly will change your life.

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Comment #193196 by ReceivedTheGift on June 15, 2008 at 12:03 am

Goldy

I hope you will be honest with me. If over the next few days, if you start feeling an unusual tugging of your heart, please inform me so I can help you in your ultimate realization of the truth. Jesus is the Truth and The Way.

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Comment #193191 by ReceivedTheGift on June 14, 2008 at 11:56 pm

Goldy

My proof for a designer? Humble yourself and open your eyes. The proof is so very prevalent all around you.

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Comment #193185 by ReceivedTheGift on June 14, 2008 at 11:53 pm

Brian English

Have you seen any actual scientific verifiable accepted transitional fossil? Because that is the only way you can claim Macroevolution. Please be honest and answer the question.

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Comment #193180 by ReceivedTheGift on June 14, 2008 at 11:49 pm

Brian English

The fact that God created life also proves that all life has a common designer. It is very relevant to your theory of Evolution.

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Comment #193177 by ReceivedTheGift on June 14, 2008 at 11:46 pm

Goldy,

I am not sure what happened to you in your childhood or past, but the bitterness is very apparent. Your hostility in your responses projects a sad and unhappy inner soul. My prayer group will be diligent in praying for you to understand, recognize and deal with the demons which are eating at your soul. I think you are in denial.

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Comment #193172 by ReceivedTheGift on June 14, 2008 at 11:36 pm

Brian English

You will never admit it. Macroevolution is soley based on inferences. This is a fact.

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Comment #193168 by ReceivedTheGift on June 14, 2008 at 11:30 pm

txpiper

In regards to Comment #193158 "Michael Denton's Description of a Cell"

How amazing it truly is. Anyone shrunk down to size with the ability to walk through one of those port holes would ask the most obvious question. WHO made/created this? Not, what made this. Again, the Evolution proponents will maintain their obvious intential ignorrance of truth. They would rather believe in the IMMPOSSIBLE then accept the unthinkable. No matter what or how many attempts you make in supporting your case, they have no choice but to ridicule and rebutt it with bitterness, hatred, and vulgar language.

We just have to keep them in our prayers and release it to the Lord.

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Comment #192792 by ReceivedTheGift on June 14, 2008 at 1:17 am

To all of you.

Goodnight and God Bless

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Comment #192788 by ReceivedTheGift on June 14, 2008 at 1:13 am

I truly am trying to understand why this discussion resulted in most of you displaying such an animosity and heartless attack on Christianity. Why are you so afraid. This display has to be the result of some uncertainty in your subconscience mind. Why do you feel so threatened? Jesus is near whenever you call for him. Only he can fill this void in your heart. I challenge you. Just ask.

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Comment #192778 by ReceivedTheGift on June 14, 2008 at 12:59 am

This discussion is going nowhere. Only continued prayer has a chance. I really do feel sad for all of you. I pray and will continue to pray for all non-believers to be saved. I can't imagine and would not wish upon anyone the consequences of eternal hell. You all have the choice and free will to determine your own destiny. God willing, you all will see the light soon.

God Bless

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Comment #192771 by ReceivedTheGift on June 14, 2008 at 12:52 am

Whenever a Creationist asks for proof of Macroevolution, you tell them to go read a book. It is not your job to educate them. So, I say the same applys. Go read some books and educate yourself on history. You know what evidence is out there. You just don't choose to accept it.

epeeist

You are doing the same. How about the burden of proof that there is no Creator?

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Comment #192765 by ReceivedTheGift on June 14, 2008 at 12:44 am

Brian English

I did answer epeeists points. The origins of life does not matter in regards to Evolution? What then is your beginning point of Evolution?

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Comment #192762 by ReceivedTheGift on June 14, 2008 at 12:40 am

Philip1978

There are plenty first hand accounts of Jesus and his miracles. Show me first hand accounts of any disputing of Jesus and his miracles.

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Comment #192754 by ReceivedTheGift on June 14, 2008 at 12:35 am

Why then don't you give me your thoughts on the origins of life. Without knowledge of the origin of life, how can one even consider understanding the process in which you claim life evolved?

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Comment #192747 by ReceivedTheGift on June 14, 2008 at 12:30 am

Goldy and Brian English

So you can choose to do anything and it would never be a sin? Sin has nothing to do with right and wrong? Please tell me that you are both pulling my leg.

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Comment #192743 by ReceivedTheGift on June 14, 2008 at 12:25 am

epeeist

If you have any knowledge of history, there is quite a bit of secular historical accounts of Jesus. I assume you know this.

Can you prove the universe wasn't created? How then did it come about? I thought Evolution supporters shyed away from the creation/origins of life issue since they have no answers.

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Comment #192738 by ReceivedTheGift on June 14, 2008 at 12:20 am

Goldy

Yes, I can't pick and choose what to believe from the Bible. So, Jesus is the light and the way. Without accepting him you are damned to hell for eternity. That's not my opinion. That's the word of God. I pray that all people will come to know Jesus and be saved to eternal life through his grace.

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Comment #192733 by ReceivedTheGift on June 14, 2008 at 12:16 am

Goldy

If you truly and sincerely believe that you are so righteous to have never sinned, then I will pray for you even more. This is a sad state of mind.

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Comment #192730 by ReceivedTheGift on June 14, 2008 at 12:12 am

Goldy

Why would I pray to God for your damnation?

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Comment #192729 by ReceivedTheGift on June 14, 2008 at 12:10 am

Goldy

You claim to have no sin? So you have never lied or stolen? You don't need to answer. It's ridiculous.

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Comment #192725 by ReceivedTheGift on June 14, 2008 at 12:04 am

epeeist

How can I get God to damn you to eternal torture? This is out of my control. Only you have the free will to make this choice. That is why all I can do is prayer for you. I wish no one to eternal torture.

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Comment #192723 by ReceivedTheGift on June 13, 2008 at 11:58 pm

Goldy

Most idols are either celebrities or sports athletes. Since all humans are sinful, there is no human idol that can exemplify what a idol should fulfil. It usually leads to this secular humanistic materialistic society which has engulfed our nation.

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Comment #192718 by ReceivedTheGift on June 13, 2008 at 11:52 pm

Diacanu

What makes you think that I believe myself to be so righteous?

Goldy

I would have no problem with anyone praying for me. How is praying for someone impossing on them?

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Comment #192715 by ReceivedTheGift on June 13, 2008 at 11:48 pm

Goldy

Do you believe our society is progressively getting more and more degregated?

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Comment #192710 by ReceivedTheGift on June 13, 2008 at 11:45 pm

Goldy

Your understanding of the separation of church and state is mistaken. It was to keep the state out of the church, not the church out of the state.

Quine

No. This tells me that the chimps and humans had the same designer.

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Comment #192708 by ReceivedTheGift on June 13, 2008 at 11:39 pm

Goldy

Why would praying for you be offensive?

In regards to my Christocentric view, all these other societies do not have the standards which insures true freedom and liberty. What standards should we adhere to?

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Comment #192704 by ReceivedTheGift on June 13, 2008 at 11:34 pm

Podaar

Yes, even the idol commandment. What is your idol? Unfortunately, our society has a warped sense of what an idol should be. These worldly idols are a main cause in the degredation of our society.

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Comment #192700 by ReceivedTheGift on June 13, 2008 at 11:29 pm

Goldy

I believe for any society to sustain, it must adhere to an accepted set of standards. The Christian standard is it.

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Comment #192697 by ReceivedTheGift on June 13, 2008 at 11:24 pm

Goldy,

First of all, there is no need for this language. Second, I told you no such thing. Your lack of confidence in your stand put you on the defense right away.

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Comment #192695 by ReceivedTheGift on June 13, 2008 at 11:20 pm

Diacanu


You are very offensive. I will not respond to you. But I will still be praying for your salvation.

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Comment #192693 by ReceivedTheGift on June 13, 2008 at 11:18 pm

Podaar,

What do you believe should be the standards we have as a society?

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Comment #192692 by ReceivedTheGift on June 13, 2008 at 11:16 pm

Podaar,

That's funny. So our founding fathers were all silly? Most of society abides by these commandments as a standard.

Quine,

All I want is for our schools to teach science correctly and honestly. I believe that neither Macroevolution or Creation should be taught. If science is taught right, with facts being facts and inferences being taught as inferrences the logic will speak for itself. The probability of Macroevolution is impossible.

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Comment #192690 by ReceivedTheGift on June 13, 2008 at 11:10 pm

I have read all the books and seen all the videos. Every other word is "we believe" "it might" "we asssume" "it is thought" and so on and so on... All nonsense.

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Comment #192686 by ReceivedTheGift on June 13, 2008 at 11:06 pm

Do you have children? What values and morals are you distilling in them? The Ten Commandments?

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Comment #192685 by ReceivedTheGift on June 13, 2008 at 11:02 pm

No. God, like any father, wants to be loved by choice or free will. He gave us enough to see and experience in our world to have no excuse in denying his presence and majesty. With all of the current knowledge we have in science, the only logical conclusion is a creator. Natural laws cannot and do not begin to explain the design and complexity of life. Process of elimination, eliminate all natural law.

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Comment #192679 by ReceivedTheGift on June 13, 2008 at 10:48 pm

You are wrong. I love all. Especially our youth. The damage that the Atheist Evolution proponents are doing is the biggest deceivement in human history. Children need to know that they were created by a God who love them. That they are special and have a purpose in life.

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Comment #192677 by ReceivedTheGift on June 13, 2008 at 10:42 pm

Unfortunately, there is and there will never be any proof presented to you in which you would or could accept. You can't. It is like attempting to make a blind man see. Your science theory does not allow for anything other than natural laws. That is how science theory is defined. The only difference is that the blind man does not have the ability or free will to cure his blindness. You do. You are choosing to remain blind and accept Evolution no matter how foolish it is, because it adheres to your closed mind of natural law.

That is why, I know, my prayers will eventually cause one of you to really think logically in questioning your beliefs, and thus ask Jesus to come into your life.

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Comment #192674 by ReceivedTheGift on June 13, 2008 at 10:27 pm

I still can't understand the hostility. Why are your responses so predictable? Why would an offer of prayer be so intimidating and insulting to you? If you don't believe in it what does it matter or hurt?

No matter how angry you get at me, I will never stop praying for you.

I love you and Jesus loves you.

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Comment #192631 by ReceivedTheGift on June 13, 2008 at 5:45 pm

Txpiper

How's it going? I've been observing this blog for a few days now. Please let me give you some advice. Anything you say will be refuted by proponents of this forum. Science has crippled itself in the sense of the inability to look outside the box. Science does not allow for any reasoning outside natural laws. Evolution proponents use the facts they have in microevolution to accept, as fact, all the inferences towards macroevolution. They have no other choice. No matter how foolish it sounds to us.

1 Corinthians 3:18-20 Do not deceive yourselves. If any one of you thinks he is wise by the standards of this age, he should become a "fool" so that he may become wise. For the wisdom of this world is foolishness in God's sight. As it is written: "He catches the wise in their craftiness and again, "The Lord knows that the thoughts of the wise are futile."

But you must realize that there is more happening here. Most of the forum regulars are very unsure of their belief. If one is so confident and positive of their knowledge, they would not feel so threatened. As you noticed, instead of maintaining a peaceful, intelligent conversation, they immediately turn to vulgar language and verbal attacks. Especially The Reverend Dark and Diacanu. Their bitterness and frustration is so apparent, it's if they have some deep rooted issues going on, besides the lack of confidence in their beliefs.

1 Corinthians 1:19 For it is written: "I will destroy the wisdom of the wise; the intelligence of the intelligent I will frustrate."

I am constantly referring my friends to this sight for observation. After a few minutes, one can easily see their lack of certainty. It really is sad. Their hostility and aggression towards Jesus and Christians is so apparent right away. Before one mentions anything about a deity, in regards to Intelligent Design or Creation they jump on and viciously attack the Christian faith. They suggest that we are not intelligent or don't have the intellectual capacity in which they have. That we believe in fairy tales. Why is this? Their eyes are closed.

Proverbs 3:7 Do not be wise in your own eyes; fear the lord and shun evil.

Matthew 11:25 At that time Jesus said, "I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children.

Here is my suggestion:

Stop engaging them. It is useless. Since they can't possibly conceive in a Lord, their eyes are closed to the foolishness of Evolution. Understand that most of these Evolution supporters are Atheist and thus have a limited understanding of faith and our Lord. Their lack of faith and foolish belief is one of the many Bible prophesies in which we observe coming to fruition in our age. We must continue to pray for the Lord to open their eyes, humble them, and instill in them the desire and need for salvation. We can only plant the seeds. The Lord will do the rest.

To all Atheist Evolution supporters. I lift you up and will continue to pray for Jesus, to reveal himself to you, in order that you will accept forgiveness and salvation. Open your eyes and seek him. He is faithful.

God Bless