101. Cardinal accuses Anglican Communion of 'spiritual Alzheimer's'

Comment #217054 by CocoCantare on July 23, 2008 at 9:10 pm

So, Mordacious, what happens to the heavenly virgins after they've been, ahem, devirginized?

102. Cardinal accuses Anglican Communion of 'spiritual Alzheimer's'

Comment #217040 by CocoCantare on July 23, 2008 at 8:30 pm

Hey, don't take this too far, mordacious. Besides, twp's picture has a message for crazees like you. ;o)

103. Cardinal accuses Anglican Communion of 'spiritual Alzheimer's'

Comment #217034 by CocoCantare on July 23, 2008 at 8:24 pm

(Lol, mordacious1, I'm so sorry)

Well,twp, I am curious by nature. I ask a lot of questions to fully understand things, almost ad nauseum. Even my mom says she thinks my first word was "why?". I was very emotionally attached to my faith, but I slowly began questioning things more and more. I guess you could say my faith started unraveling right before my eyes. RD.net answered a lot of my questions. Things in life just make more sense now.

I admit I was afraid of atheists for a long time. I assumed all atheists to be immoral and/or amoral . But then I really witnessed so much hypocrisy in christians, and I realized God doesn't make us choose to do the right thing or treat people with respect and kindness. I witnessed a lot of good, kind, atheists on this site and it blew me away. Am I rambling on? Am I making any sense? Sorry. I could seriously write a novel about my "journey".

104. Cardinal accuses Anglican Communion of 'spiritual Alzheimer's'

Comment #217015 by CocoCantare on July 23, 2008 at 8:03 pm

Ya know, I think it may happen more often than we think, as I am proof of just exactly how you put it, twp.

105. How Anecdotal Evidence Can Undermine Scientific Results

Comment #217014 by CocoCantare on July 23, 2008 at 8:01 pm

Thanks much, Zaphod.

106. Cardinal accuses Anglican Communion of 'spiritual Alzheimer's'

Comment #216991 by CocoCantare on July 23, 2008 at 7:02 pm

Ahhh, nothing like a bunch of delusional old men in robes arguing amongst themselves.
Even though I am now an atheist, excluding women from priesthood/leadership enrages me as it did when I was Baptist and later Catholic.

107. How Anecdotal Evidence Can Undermine Scientific Results

Comment #216984 by CocoCantare on July 23, 2008 at 6:46 pm

Thanks, KKelly, I'm on it.

Radesq,

I have two brothers.

108. How Anecdotal Evidence Can Undermine Scientific Results

Comment #216983 by CocoCantare on July 23, 2008 at 6:45 pm

Trust me, whitepearl, I'm not holding my breath. She's been on about this for years.
But, yeah, perhaps by then there will be so much hard evidence she won't be able to deny it. She does depend on a lot of anecdote as evidence to back up her claims. She mentions all of the doctors she's read about that don't vaccinate their own children.

109. How Anecdotal Evidence Can Undermine Scientific Results

Comment #216976 by CocoCantare on July 23, 2008 at 6:29 pm

Three of my six sisters do not/have not vaccinated their children and at least one of them is extremely preachy about it. I am very interested in some solid science literature on this topic. When/if I have children some day, I would like to be informed and armed when my sister launches her attack on me when I vaccinate my child.

Also,
I'm heading to grad school for nutrition/health science and this kind of alternative health/homeopathic BS drives me crazy!

110. Richard Dawkins slaps creationists into the primordial soup

Comment #216273 by CocoCantare on July 22, 2008 at 9:52 pm

Right. Impressive. I think you've got everyone bored, including me. Off to bed I go.

111. Richard Dawkins slaps creationists into the primordial soup

Comment #216269 by CocoCantare on July 22, 2008 at 9:44 pm

Oh, and you can read my thoughts now, eh? What did you think I meant? Thanks for the dictionary (how very kind and christian-like of you), but I know what you're referring to. Are you getting my point, though?

Just wondering if they teach you such creative insults for heathen nonbelievers in sunday school, as you've said quite a bit more than dum arse and cum crank, but who's counting?

112. Richard Dawkins slaps creationists into the primordial soup

Comment #216263 by CocoCantare on July 22, 2008 at 9:37 pm

Dum arse? Cum crank? Did they teach you that in Sunday school?

Yes, okay, Robert. Everyone's wrong but you. Now go to church on Sunday and report to your pastor how you spent hours on RD.net and told those bound-for-hell atheists!

113. Richard Dawkins slaps creationists into the primordial soup

Comment #216253 by CocoCantare on July 22, 2008 at 9:23 pm

"You've got to be ****ting me. That unhinged, stupid bitch? I discounted her pseudo-scholarship and sent her an e-mail letting her know what a dumb ass she is nine years ago and falsehoods do not improve with age."




Hope Tera doesn't mind that I repeat this, I'm still waiting on the answer:

Robert:
"I'm curious, though, does this God whose existence you have necessitated through your philosophical prestidigitations manifest himself through your behavior? Because I've heard theologians attributing behaviors like "love" to this God creature. How much of God's love are you manifesting to us vile sinners?"

How is it that you defend the NT and christ's resurrection, but don't try very hard to follow your christ's teachings:

Matt. 5:44 But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you...

1 corinthians 13:4Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs.

(Yes, I realize Corinthians was supposedly written by the apostle paul, but he was an apostle of jesus, so. . .you know. . .)

114. Losing Sight of Progress

Comment #215851 by CocoCantare on July 22, 2008 at 12:37 pm

Buckle,

Oh yes, and when I was in the 6th grade, our class was supposed to learn about Early Man. My dad had a nice little chat with my teacher. Next thing I know, I'm doodling pictures for an hour everyday for a month.

115. Losing Sight of Progress

Comment #215816 by CocoCantare on July 22, 2008 at 12:08 pm

Kkelly,

Yes, I'm working my way through these books. I just get annoyed when something is posted and the veterans of this site cry "old news!". Sorry, but it's new to me and I find it fascinating.

I know it sounds crazy to many, but I never learned about evolution of any type growing up. In 9th grade biology, my dad made me do an alternate project while all my other classmates learned about evolution.

And, a few years ago, my then boyfriend took me to a natural history museum and I burst into tears and was enraged that I didn't have a clue about any of it. Most 6th graders probably know more about it than I do, but I'm catching up.

116. Losing Sight of Progress

Comment #215799 by CocoCantare on July 22, 2008 at 11:52 am

So what is wrong if someone posts an article that is "old news"? Those of us who are new to this site (including lurkers who don't post), have never been taught evolution and are LEARNING. That's what this site is about. Please have patience with the newbies.

117. Surgeon General Nominee Dismisses Homosexuality Paper

Comment #215346 by CocoCantare on July 21, 2008 at 5:03 pm

Thanks, Pearl. I didn't hear that about Obama. That's sounds good to me.

118. Surgeon General Nominee Dismisses Homosexuality Paper

Comment #215333 by CocoCantare on July 21, 2008 at 4:41 pm

Good point, Auraboy. Assuming Sen. Obama wins the election and doesn't get too cozy with the religious, we would have less to worry about in that area, IMO.

119. Surgeon General Nominee Dismisses Homosexuality Paper

Comment #215331 by CocoCantare on July 21, 2008 at 4:36 pm

Lol, Corylus and Auraboy.

P.S. What is "Auraboy"?

120. Surgeon General Nominee Dismisses Homosexuality Paper

Comment #215326 by CocoCantare on July 21, 2008 at 4:25 pm

"Not your fault that you got some dogdy comments targeted at you Auraboy :-)"

Indeed, perhaps you should change your picture to a mouse or something. ;o)

121. Surgeon General Nominee Dismisses Homosexuality Paper

Comment #215311 by CocoCantare on July 21, 2008 at 3:59 pm

"A wolf in sheeps clothing."


Or that.

122. Surgeon General Nominee Dismisses Homosexuality Paper

Comment #215296 by CocoCantare on July 21, 2008 at 3:21 pm

"Bush appointees routinely vetted his speeches for political red flags, told him to mention the president's name at least three times on every page of his public remarks, and approved or denied his travel appearances with an eye to their political impact."

How disgusting. Isn't the Surgeon General's concern be for the health of Americans through up-to-date medical study? How is it that President Bush and his cronies can have such control over a position like that?!

123. Surgeon General Nominee Dismisses Homosexuality Paper

Comment #215275 by CocoCantare on July 21, 2008 at 2:59 pm

KKelly,

Actually, it's been a few years and I was never really uncomfortable with it, just thought I was following my faith correctly by being a homophobe. Nice try, though. Actually it wasn't. . . you're lame.

So what shall we call him, folks? A sex-troll?

124. Surgeon General Nominee Dismisses Homosexuality Paper

Comment #215270 by CocoCantare on July 21, 2008 at 2:56 pm

Sorry, White Pearl, KKelly posted right before I did. I didn't mean to imply that he's desperate because he wants you on his list (or whatever it is he's saying).

125. Surgeon General Nominee Dismisses Homosexuality Paper

Comment #215266 by CocoCantare on July 21, 2008 at 2:52 pm

Geez, KKelly, it was kinda funny at first, but now you're soundin' a little desperate. . . there are plenty of fun sites for what you're looking for. . . I'm sure. I just don't feel like witnessing cybersex , especially via RD.net!

126. Surgeon General Nominee Dismisses Homosexuality Paper

Comment #215257 by CocoCantare on July 21, 2008 at 2:43 pm

Oystein Elgaroy, I agree.

127. Surgeon General Nominee Dismisses Homosexuality Paper

Comment #215230 by CocoCantare on July 21, 2008 at 2:06 pm

Mitchell,

Yes, I understand what you are saying. I just hope that Black Wolf isn't implying that people who change still cannot be trusted. The major point of Richard Dawkins' work is to help people change for the better, not marginalize them once they do change, and not trust them to do good things for government, society, or the world.

128. Surgeon General Nominee Dismisses Homosexuality Paper

Comment #215221 by CocoCantare on July 21, 2008 at 1:54 pm

Oh, come now Lucas and Black Wolf! Although I don't know the whole story on this guy and I'm not sure about anyone Bush endorses:

I'm a brand-spanking-new-baby atheist who only recently got the nerve to join in on the threads here on RD.net. How is it fair that, now that I have thrown off the shackles of indoctrination I was brainwashed with for so many years, I can never be trusted to run for office or do any public works?

I was vehemently "anti-homosexual" as a part of my faith and now I'm outspoken in the equal rights for those of any sexual orientation. People should be able to change for the better and be "trusted".

129. The Return of Religion

Comment #212917 by CocoCantare on July 17, 2008 at 8:39 pm

Oh gracious! Trust me, if I read or discuss anything more about the cracker incident, I may get seriously ill! I've read all the articles, rumors, and threads that I can handle for one lifetime. But thanks for including me, Laurie.

130. The Return of Religion

Comment #212911 by CocoCantare on July 17, 2008 at 8:33 pm

Definitely Laurie. . . :o)

131. The Return of Religion

Comment #212910 by CocoCantare on July 17, 2008 at 8:32 pm

Since this thread has been about nothing and everything, I'd like to throw a personal theory/observation out at you all.

I just read in the news that Mississippi was named the "fattest state in the nation". The top five were all southern states. Now, several factors have been attributed to these states having such high obesity rates including southern food/eating habits, poverty, etc.

But religion wasn't mentioned and I think it is a very legitimate factor. Any takers as to why?

132. The Return of Religion

Comment #212900 by CocoCantare on July 17, 2008 at 8:23 pm

I don't love chocolate. I OBSESS over it. . . there's clearly a difference. But I know that was a huge thread not too long ago.

133. The Return of Religion

Comment #212898 by CocoCantare on July 17, 2008 at 8:21 pm

Monster rock is sort of the pet name for bands like Scorpions, Van Halen, Ozzy Osbourne, etc. Basically all the guys with lotsa hair and makeup!

Also a huge fan of Boston, America,and The Eagles.

134. The Return of Religion

Comment #212893 by CocoCantare on July 17, 2008 at 8:13 pm

Hey Radesq. Love music! Love classic rock, monster rock, soft rock, etc.

135. The Return of Religion

Comment #212819 by CocoCantare on July 17, 2008 at 5:48 pm

No worries, Radesq. My husband is in the US Navy. From what I've seen, no one really discusses religion and it probably wouldn't be a very big deal if he ever came out as an atheist. All situations in the US military are different. Some have good experiences concerning religious/nonreligious freedom, some don't. I think it might have something to do with what kind of cohesion the platoon/company/squadron has. My husband's squadron of pilots are a tight knit group and they would never treat each other poorly.

136. The Return of Religion

Comment #212814 by CocoCantare on July 17, 2008 at 5:37 pm

Radesq, are you implying that I'm wishywashy or something to that effect? What is wrong with searching? And all this has happened over 15 years so it's not exactly like I've been hopping around.

whitepearl,
Ouch. Yuck. I shall be expecting similar as I have family still deeply embedded in religion, including my overemotional baptist sister who will probably rage, cry, preach, rage, and then cry again.
I do really appreciate your support though. Thanks girl!

137. MnIndy interview: Unrepentant science-heathen PZ Myers still intends to prove 'this cracker is nothing'

Comment #212811 by CocoCantare on July 17, 2008 at 5:32 pm

Well put, Mitchell. I agree. And I'm a practicing catholic-in-the-closet-atheist! (It's complicated and would take some explaining. . .basically though, I'm a brand new baby atheist and haven't the nerve to come out about it yet.)

138. The Return of Religion

Comment #212808 by CocoCantare on July 17, 2008 at 5:26 pm

Hullo there Laurie! I appreciate the welcome. I also appreciate this site, tangents and all!

Quine,

Oh yes, my husband and I have very similar world views, despite the obvious belief in God/atheist thing. Our political views are very much along the same lines.
The problem is, I probably know more about the catholic religion than he does, because I converted to catholicism about 3 years ago. So, asking him questions would definitely be suspect. We're young and have only been married 9 mos., so I know it will all eventually come out. I just don't think I'm ready yet.

139. The Return of Religion

Comment #212796 by CocoCantare on July 17, 2008 at 4:47 pm

Why, thank you Quine. I'm still in this process of dereligioning myself. To be totally honest, I'm still a closet atheist. I haven't even told my husband. So coming to this site is almost therapeutic as I really have no one to discuss it with.
My husband is an awesome man, I adore him, but I just can't bring myself to tell him. He's a catholic, but a very worldly one at that. His faith is very private and he's mostly about "good works for the sake of doing good" while here on earth because he really doesn't care if there is an afterlife or not. But I just can't see him giving up faith in some sort of God. I think once he told me he was more of a Deist. Could be worse, right?

140. The Return of Religion

Comment #212781 by CocoCantare on July 17, 2008 at 4:01 pm

Tyler,

Yes, go Guiness! I'm also a fan of Boddington's.

Anyhow, to answer the God-evidence question:

I never really thought about it. We were supposed to have faith in the unseen and in divine revelation in the bible. I went to college, joined Campus Crusade for Christ, and went searching for the "right" church for me. Well, I became increasingly uncomfortable with evangelizing with CCC as I met many awesome people of different or no faiths. I couldn't fathom them going to hell, so I became obsessed with heaven and hell for a while until I pretty couldn't believe in either.

And the process up 'til now has been slow. Giving up faith is almost like slowly removing a large bandage from a wound. It hurts like crazy, but you know you've got to do it so your wound can breath.

141. The Return of Religion

Comment #212745 by CocoCantare on July 17, 2008 at 3:35 pm

PBR! Yeah Al!

You might like Young's Double Chocolate Stout. It's like eating a piece of dark chocolate. . .only it's a beer!

142. The Return of Religion

Comment #212738 by CocoCantare on July 17, 2008 at 3:30 pm

whitepearl,

What's your favorite vodka? I'm a dirty martini fan and I'm just curious.

143. The Return of Religion

Comment #212706 by CocoCantare on July 17, 2008 at 3:09 pm

Whitepearl,

Blue Moon with an orange, right? The only way to go! Have you had their Honeymoon? Quite tasty. I'm a bit of a beer snob too.

144. The Return of Religion

Comment #212696 by CocoCantare on July 17, 2008 at 2:57 pm

Al,

Singh is my married name. My husband is about 1/8 Indian and the rest Filipino and most of his family is catholic.

145. The Return of Religion

Comment #212676 by CocoCantare on July 17, 2008 at 2:30 pm

Very good Radesq! My last name is Singh.

146. The Return of Religion

Comment #212667 by CocoCantare on July 17, 2008 at 2:16 pm

Mitchell,

Pretty much.

147. The Return of Religion

Comment #212664 by CocoCantare on July 17, 2008 at 2:13 pm

Riiiight.

148. The Return of Religion

Comment #212661 by CocoCantare on July 17, 2008 at 2:09 pm

Well, Radesq and Tez, doesn't this just reek of some sort of irony? I go off on a itsy bitsy rant about using "cunt" and you start callin' me names including that lovely little word? The nerve!
(I guess all of my christian victim/persecuted tendencies haven't altogether subsided.)

149. The Return of Religion

Comment #212651 by CocoCantare on July 17, 2008 at 2:00 pm

Mordacious1,

Hey, it's not like I know where you live! Seriously, I love word games, so I'm interested in what people might come up with.

150. The Return of Religion

Comment #212648 by CocoCantare on July 17, 2008 at 1:55 pm

Dhamma,

I couldn't possibly count on all fingers and toes the amount of hypocrisy I have encountered in the christian world. That's one of the reasons I left. I couldn't stand the holier-than-thou attitudes by so many who would turn around and lie, cheat, and steal. Oh, and the bible is BS too. Heh.