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Comment #151849 by Richard Dawkins on March 29, 2008 at 2:56 pm
Actually we should apologize here, namely for being totally inconsiderate. It is not us who are depicted here as a menacing, self-aggrandizing bully. . . But sorry, again. It's not our very image that's being put up and made fun of in the video.
102. Beware the Believers
Comment #151723 by Richard Dawkins on March 29, 2008 at 8:55 am
. . . the humour here is not primarily in the satirical content. It comes from the burlesque - the incongruous juxtaposition of radically different style and content.
103. Beware the Believers
Comment #151715 by Richard Dawkins on March 29, 2008 at 8:48 am
Bah humbug - You old fuddy-duddy, not even when Dan Dennett pops up from the bottom goin' Yeah! ?
104. Beware the Believers
Comment #151713 by Richard Dawkins on March 29, 2008 at 8:45 am
"Post Modernism" does make sense in the arts
105. Beware the Believers
Comment #151704 by Richard Dawkins on March 29, 2008 at 8:30 am
Whichever side it is on, it is well made, clever and very funny.
106. Beware the Believers
Comment #151685 by Richard Dawkins on March 29, 2008 at 7:50 am
Maybe it's postmodern. Would that account for the fact that even people who purport to like it don't know what it means?
Richard
107. Beware the Believers
Comment #151544 by Richard Dawkins on March 29, 2008 at 12:44 am
If anyone can understand a single word of this, don't bother to translate, just tell me whose side it's on. I get the feeling (same with South Park) that there are people out there who assume that something that is obviously MEANT to be funny therefore must BE funny, and they immediately shower it with accolades such as "Wow", "Hilarious", "Awesome" and, most side-splitting of all, "LOL".
Sorry, I seem to be showing my age. Enjoy yourselves LOLling away.
Richard
108. I always aim to misbehave
Comment #151529 by Richard Dawkins on March 29, 2008 at 12:10 am
PZ is a priceless asset, a hero of our time.
By the way, he has another excellent article over at Pharyngula, where he makes the point that, to the extent that Hitler and the eugenicists borrowed anything from Darwinism, they borrowed from the OBVIOUS part that everybody knew for centuries before Darwin, namely ARTIFICIAL selection. Everybody knew how to breed cattle for milk, flowers for colour, horses for speed and so on. That was what Hitler and the eugenicists tried to apply to humans. Darwin's genius was to see that NATURE might do the same thing as human breeders, and hence produce all of life including the illusion of design. See 'The Simple Falsehood at the Heart of Expelled.'
Richard
109. Lying for Jesus?
Comment #150765 by Richard Dawkins on March 27, 2008 at 12:00 pm
Obviously I am not asking whether I am right about the general proposition that Mark Mathis is a liar. I am asking about the SPECIFIC contradiction to which I drew attention in Post Number 388 on this thread.
Richard
110. Lying for Jesus?
Comment #150755 by Richard Dawkins on March 27, 2008 at 11:43 am
May I just add one more thing to the indictment of hypocrisy against Mark Mathis, something that had not occurred to me before, or at least not quite so clearly?
1. Mathis tries to claim that he did not deceive PZ, me, Eugenie Scott and the rest of us into taking part in his film in the first place. He tries to claim that we were invited in good faith, and that we accepted in good faith.
2. If that were really true, wouldn't it be natural to invite PZ and the rest of us to attend pre-screenings, as honoured guests? The fact that he threw PZ out of the theatre in Minneapolis, and goes to strenuous lengths to keep all of us out of advance screenings (Eugenie has documented her positive exclusion) amounts to a damning admission that we are perceived as enemies, and therefore that his claim to have invited us to take part in an objective discussion of the issues, without deceiving us, is a lie.
Mathis cannot have it both ways. Either he was telling us the truth in the first place, when he invited us to participate in the film, in which case we should be invited to see it as an extension of the good faith with which he originally invited us to participate. Or he is right to treat us as enemies, to be excluded from advance showings, in which case he is lying when he claims to have invited us in good faith originally.
Well, it is obvious to any objective observer that Mark Mathis is a serial liar, frantically trying to spin his way out of the hole he has dug for himself. But I have not seen this particular contradiction spelled out before, in quite these stark terms.
Am I right?
Richard
111. Fleabytes
Comment #137580 by Richard Dawkins on March 3, 2008 at 8:08 am
Comment #137570 by Quetzalcoatl on March 3, 2008 at 7:41 am
Richard-
the smart thing would have been not to remind everyone about your secret shame. Now it can be used against you in the future.
112. A natural phenomenon
Comment #137461 by Richard Dawkins on March 3, 2008 at 12:06 am
I hope nobody can confirm the scurrilous rumour that, when an early Attenborough documentary was first released in America, his commentary was dubbed by Robert Redford because the TV company wanted an American accent.
Richard
113. Fleabytes
Comment #137455 by Richard Dawkins on March 2, 2008 at 11:48 pm
2317. Comment #136327 by Diacanu on February 29, 2008 at 10:26 pm
Steve Zara-It's 2000 posts good. She should be a horsewoman. I want to see her up in the corner of the site at the table making Dan and Richard laugh.
By the way, I liked Paula's review.....
114. Fleabytes
Comment #136398 by Richard Dawkins on March 1, 2008 at 5:02 am
NMcC wrote
Thanks for the explanation. I was under the impression that Josh was the moderator here and that you wouldn't, and probably couldn't, intervene to have posts removed
115. Fleabytes
Comment #136364 by Richard Dawkins on March 1, 2008 at 1:56 am
2286. Comment #136256 by NMcC on February 29, 2008 at 3:19 pm
JOSH
I see you have given in to that whining fraud Robertson and removed my posts 669, 674, and 676.
Since I do not wish to be associated in any way with a site that stiffles free speech and dictates (and at the behest of a despicable Christian liar, to boot) what should or should not be considered 'humourous', please do me the honour of removing the rest of my posts.
I would appreciate it if this post alone was left as a mark of protest.
As far as I'm concerned, your surrender to the likes of religious fruitcakes like Robertson is pathetic.
In leaving this site for good, I'd simply like to state that, like others, I've learnt a lot and appreciate very much the education I've recieved.
116. Fleabytes
Comment #133900 by Richard Dawkins on February 27, 2008 at 2:28 am
The ill-named "Clearthinker" wrote
PS. Just one question. Why is Paula's article not listed on the front page. It was after all written on the 19th Feb. Is this an oversight or is the webmaster slightly ashamed of it? Just curious.
Comment #133852 by Richard Dawkins on February 27, 2008 at 12:06 am
Richard Morgan:
What would music inspired by the fleas sound like?
http://richarddawkins.net/article,2303,Add-another-flea-to-the-list,RichardDawkinsnet
Something to make them seem ridiculous, pathetic, desperate?
How do you do it, by the way? Do you improvise at an electronic keyboard, and have the computer record what you do, then edit it? I have no conception of how this kind of thing is done, but I am extremely impressed.
Richard D
Comment #132132 by Richard Dawkins on February 24, 2008 at 9:17 am
Richard Morgan wrote:
Richard D - in one of your books you mentioned taking your baby daughter out one night to see a comet. You explained that she was probably too young to know what was going on, but since she would live to see it again (and you would not) you wanted her to be able to say that she'd seen it twice.
I was very touched by this idea, and so composed this :
"You'll see it again, but..."
(Dedicated to Richard Dawkins and his daughter.)
http://www.esnips.com/web/WeSawTheComet
(It's one of my "straight from my heart" compositions.)
Comment #132060 by Richard Dawkins on February 24, 2008 at 4:34 am
Richard Morgan wrote:
So yes I actually composed this, not for the lava lizards (who, judging from the way they scuttle, prefer Reggae), but as a celebration of your message as expressed in The Lava Lizards Tale.
Comment #132047 by Richard Dawkins on February 24, 2008 at 2:55 am
Richard, I found the audio file by clicking on "Listen" just to the right of FILE..
Hope it helps and it is rather pleasing to listen to..Cheers
Comment #132042 by Richard Dawkins on February 24, 2008 at 2:23 am
The link to the site esnips.com should open a page that plays an mp3.
Perhaps this will work for you :
http://www.esnips.com/web/SuiteforEvolution
Comment #132024 by Richard Dawkins on February 24, 2008 at 12:10 am
Richard Morgan wrote:
Please, somebody, anybody, give me a reaction to my little "sound collage".
I'm not a troll.
http://www.esnips.com/doc/94b0ab1a-0c3c-4708-a60f-993b87db161f/N°1---Fingerprints----past-time
Flip4Mac WMV cannot play this movie
123. Fleabytes
Comment #131257 by Richard Dawkins on February 22, 2008 at 6:17 am
Comment by BAEOZ on February 22, 2008 at 3:04 am
For the first, and only time in my intellectually nondescript existence I believe I can critique one of my heroes, Prof. RD. He states:
ad hominem / ad feminam
Now all latin lovers would know that homo refers to humanity. Vir refers to the masculine sex. So a ad-hom is an ad-man/ad-women (vir/femina)
Classical Latin and Greek were better equipped. Latin homo (Greek anthropo-) means human, as opposed to vir (andro-) which means man, and femina (gyne-) which means woman. Thus anthropology pertains to all humanity, where andrology and gynecology are sexually exclusive branches of medicine.
124. Fleabytes
Comment #131153 by Richard Dawkins on February 22, 2008 at 2:44 am
I understand from Josh that he is happy to give David Robertson the right of reply to Paula's review. Contrary to Robertson's assertions, it was NEVER, of course, for propounding Christian views that he was banned in the first place. Plenty of others do that. It is pretty hard to earn a ban hereabouts, but the Wee Flea seems to court it so that he can boast about it. Anyway, he is not now banned from responding to Paula's review. She has given us a remarkably thorough dissection of Robertson's book and the others. Let him reply to THOSE ARGUMENTS without ad hominem / ad feminam unpleasantness, and he will be welcome to do so.
Richard
125. Why do we believe in God? 2m study prays for answer
Comment #129464 by Richard Dawkins on February 19, 2008 at 7:03 am
I would be interested to hear which arguments by McGrath Justin Barrett supports. I have yet to see a viable argument from him.
Justin Barrett, a psychologist who has been quoted in support of arguments by both the atheist Richard Dawkins and his critic, Alister Mc-Grath . . .
126. Debate between Richard Dawkins and Madeline Bunting
Comment #126962 by Richard Dawkins on February 14, 2008 at 3:00 pm
I wish Richard would stop using hitchens arguement that you cant appreciate literature if you don't understand the bible.
127. Charles Simonyi Professorship in the Public Understanding of Science
Comment #125250 by Richard Dawkins on February 11, 2008 at 6:16 am
I wonder if they should have an American
128. Charles Simonyi Professorship in the Public Understanding of Science
Comment #125156 by Richard Dawkins on February 11, 2008 at 3:12 am
Do we still say "Prof. Dawkins" or will it become "Professor Emeritus Dawkins"?
129. Charles Simonyi Professorship in the Public Understanding of Science
Comment #125125 by Richard Dawkins on February 11, 2008 at 2:21 am
Sir, I hope your exit was either your own choice, or due to a time limit imposed on incumbents. I would hate to think your more recent books and public visibility caused Oxford to ease you out in favour of someone less passionate.
130. Charles Simonyi Professorship in the Public Understanding of Science
Comment #125118 by Richard Dawkins on February 11, 2008 at 2:02 am
Thank you for over 30 years of wonderful books, lectures, debates and documentaries. Thank you for raising the collective consciousness of the world about the religious delusion.
131. Hitchens and Boteach Debate on God
Comment #125043 by Richard Dawkins on February 10, 2008 at 7:53 pm
Boteach was terrible. He couldn't even make a good case, let alone a successful joke.
Is there more than meets the eye? How did he get to be a Rabbi at Oxford? Why did Dawkins debate him 4 times?
132. Sharia law in UK is 'unavoidable'
Comment #123660 by Richard Dawkins on February 7, 2008 at 1:16 pm
The ABoC has definitely stirred up a hornets nest...no matter what he may decide to say tomorrow! there are over 6,800 comments submitted to the BBC website alone (1750 posted) (Edit: and rising). Many other papers are also running the story with readers comments as well, most of them in the same vein as the posts here..
133. Are Darwin's Theories Fact or Faith Issues?
Comment #120282 by Richard Dawkins on February 1, 2008 at 11:36 am
PZ is magnificent. Brilliant. Well-informed, good-humoured and devastatingly effective.
I was amused at how, when he called Simmons ignorant (of whale fossils) both Simmons and the chairman objected as though PZ had violated the decencies of debate by using a word like 'ignorant'. To call somebody 'ignorant' as a generalised insult might be ruled out by the rules of politeness. But to call somebody ignorant when he has just unequivocally DEMONSTRATED his ignorance, in a subject about which he had written a whole book, is simply a matter of fact, and not impolite at all.
Well done PZed.
Interestingly, Dembski's 'Uncommon Descent' website carried a thread to discuss the debate on the fly, as it happened. However, when they saw that their man Simmons was being slaughtered, and when they saw that even their own posters were (however reluctantly) recognizing this, they abruptly closed the thread down. Fortunately, somebody had saved it, and you can see it at
http://www.antievolution.org/cgi-bin/ikonboard/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=14;t=1274;st=24870#entry95440
Richard
134. Richard Dawkins on The Big Questions
Comment #118844 by Richard Dawkins on January 31, 2008 at 4:08 am
Am I the only one who noticed Richard didn't clap even so much as once throughout the show? I think it was quite funny actually, everyone was swooning over everyone else, and Prof Dawkins was just sitting there with a "..Actually, no" look on his face.
135. A Letter From Hell
Comment #116235 by Richard Dawkins on January 25, 2008 at 11:56 pm
In calling attention to the success the "Convert your friends or they'll go to hell" meme is having in propagating itself among its target audience, I did not mean to suggest that we shouldn't propagate the film among a different audience, for a different purpose: ridicule, and replying to Christian apologists who claim that "Nobody nowadays takes hell seriously", "You are completely out of date about religion", "You need to read some theology" etcetera et-tedious-cetera.
I think we should send this film to every bishop and vicar and priest and Christian-apologist parliamentarian and congressman we know. Challenge them to put their own Christian house in order. Make them feel ashamed for their religion.
And my advice to Carmine Bello (Double Bass Atheist) is the same. Send this film to the school chaplain (if there is one: you don't say which part of the world you come from), to the school head teacher, to the local priest, to the school governors, to the local school board (if you have one: again it would help if we knew which country your son's school is in). Stir up outrage in the local community, in the Parent Teachers' Association, get it shown on the news on the local TV station. This film speaks for itself. Spread it around by all means, but among a target audience that will be EMBARRASSED and SHAMED by it.
Richard
136. A Letter From Hell
Comment #116136 by Richard Dawkins on January 25, 2008 at 3:32 pm
It's all very well for us to be facetious and frivolous and humorous in our condemnation. But take a look at the Comments on GodTube itself. Not just the latest page, click on "View All Comments". I haven't counted them, but a brisk sampling suggests that a majority are enthusiastically in favour of this film. That is what is truly frightening, especially given that it is clearly aimed at young people. And note that the main message is not "Believe in Jesus YOURSELF or you'll go to hell." It is, "If you don't tell your friends about Jesus, your friends will go to hell." In other words, it is propaganda to go out and proselytize, tell your schoolfriends about Jesus. It's a self-spreading meme. And the evidence of the Comments is that it works. It's the most unpleasant example I have seen since Jesus Camp.
Richard
137. George Scales, War Hero and Generous Friend of RDFRS
Comment #114668 by Richard Dawkins on January 22, 2008 at 2:33 pm
After the first 100 messages came in, I printed them and sent the printout to Ian Baird. Ian visited George next day, and read the messages to him (with his eyes the way they are, he cannot read at present). Here is Ian's report on George's reaction
It was amazing to see his response! He was simply overwhelmed at the NUMBER of people who had contributed, and at the sentiments expressed. He laughed loudly at some of the wit - especially the one who said, "You'll be relieved to hear I'm not offering to pray for you." He has asked me if it would be possible to insert onto the website a kind of general thanksgiving, expressing gratitude, humility in the face of such generosity of spirit, and ... this is his particular response, his difficulty in recognising himself as the "heroic" "inspirational" etc. person that he was labelled as, when all he has done all his life is to try to make the right decisions to get the results right. Anyway, in summary, it has proved to be a magnificent idea to start the thread. Ian
138. Honour Killings
Comment #113674 by Richard Dawkins on January 20, 2008 at 10:19 am
The tragedy of forced marriage and honour killing could have been avoided if the poor girls were educated in a single sex state funded Muslim schools by female Muslim teachers.
139. The Group Delusion
Comment #110290 by Richard Dawkins on January 10, 2008 at 10:24 pm
"God Delusion 2: Scratching the fleas"
Hahaha! Ohh, that's brilliant.
140. The Group Delusion
Comment #110187 by Richard Dawkins on January 10, 2008 at 3:44 pm
I am struggling to figure out what the term "altrustic gene" means. Altruism between vehicles is due to selfish genes, through mechanisms such as kin selection and the "green beard" idea. But an "altruistic" gene presumably aids the propogation of unrelated genes? Would an "altruistic" gene remove itself from the gene pool out of sympathy for the plight of another gene?
141. The Group Delusion
Comment #110183 by Richard Dawkins on January 10, 2008 at 3:36 pm
I am not a student of Biology (in fact, I am an absolute beginner on the subject), but after a careful reading of this article I have a question regarding the outcome of the research shown: while it can be shown that some species reach a pareto-optimal point in their behaviour, why is it we can see other similar species not exhibiting this behaviour, yet surviving just as well? Therefore, does this behaviour have an evolutionary advantage at all? Given the generational span of insects and the age of the earth, shouldn't we expect to see all insect species currently behaving in the same, optimal way?
Can anybody help?
Lighten any check, mitigate the destruction ever so little, and the number of the species will almost instantaneously increase to any amount. The face of Nature may be compared to a yielding surface, with ten thousand sharp wedges packed close together and driven inwards by incessant blows, sometimes one wedge being struck, and then another with greater force.
142. Another critic who hasn't read the book
Comment #109158 by Richard Dawkins on January 8, 2008 at 1:02 pm
What impresses me about the Pharyngula thread on this very same subject (url given above) is how most of the Commenters stick to the point, instead of waltzing off into little private conversations that really should be dealt with in private e-mails.
Richard
143. Changing my Mind
Comment #106872 by Richard Dawkins on January 3, 2008 at 4:03 pm
Nice to hear the name Bateson again. This Patrick Bateson seems to be related to William Bateson, whom I remember from the "Batesian mimicry" from my biology lessons.
144. THE FOUR HORSEMEN - Available Now on DVD!
Comment #98948 by Richard Dawkins on December 15, 2007 at 1:29 am
Josh, you did a great job of filming that discussion as it looks totally professional.
145. Atheists' sign sparks controversy
Comment #96276 by Richard Dawkins on December 10, 2007 at 9:18 am
What this news story does not say is that the offending sign seems to have been lifted directly from our site! See http://richarddawkins.net/underTopStoryB
It is also, incidentally, somewhat similar to the one that Channel Four used to promote Root of All Evil in early 2006. But Channel Four didn't dare use the exact Lennon quote, for fear of being sued. Instead they said "Imagine a World without Religion." They did use a photo of the pre-9/11 New York skyline, but it was a different photo. The one used in Rockville seems to be identical to ours, and presumably comes from our site, as designed by Josh. I am delighted!
Richard
146. Richard Dawkins on 'Have Your Say'
Comment #96034 by Richard Dawkins on December 9, 2007 at 8:09 pm
Here's an encouraging fact. As the producer was showing me out after the show, he told me that the great majority of callers were on my side. The BBC filterers deliberately choose those who disagree with the guest, for the obvious reason that it makes for more interesting television/radio. So, the English woman from France was actually in the substantial majority of those who phoned in.
Richard
147. Banishing the Green-Eyed Monster
Comment #92152 by Richard Dawkins on November 30, 2007 at 1:22 am
Of course Beth is completely right, and I really do apologize for making my article so easy to misunderstand.
I am not advocating a promiscuously swinging lifestyle, and I am not advocating deception and lying in personal relationships. I myself am well capable of jealousy. Moreover, I well understand the powerful biological reasons for it, having to do with the raising of children and other things. I was saying I wish I could rise above it, and I understand why it is so hard.
My jocular comparisons, for example with 'faithfulness' to red wine when flirting with white, were intended to show up how uniquely odd sexual jealousy is, in its powerful compulsion. It was a similar trick to my consciousness-raising question in another context: "Would you ever talk about a Keynesian child, or a secular humanist child?" That question forces people to notice, by contrast, how odd it is that we uniquely accept religious labels for children. This one was intended to do the same thing for sexual jealousy. Sex is the one area where violent jealousy is conventionally thought virtuous. I was just pointing out the oddity, not saying it is inexplicable and not even, necessarily, condemning it -- although I would personally like to rise above it, and I think the sum total of happiness would be raised if we could manage it.
My quotation from The African Queen ("Nature, Mr Allnut, is what we are put in this world to overcome") was intended to demonstrate a piquant paradox. The Katherine Hepburn character was encouraging the Humphrey Bogart character to rise above his natural sex drive. I was pointing out the paradox that 'rising above nature' can take us in exactly the opposite – less obvious -- direction. I thought it an amusing irony that our primitively strong impulse to jealousy furnishes us with an example where wild nature forbids sex, while rising above nature encourages it!
I did not intend to advocate lying under oath, and I probably should have talked in general terms rather than about the Clinton case in particular. My main point is that people should not be asked prying questions about matters that are nobody else's business, and especially not under oath. Taking an oath is a sacred relic of our religious history which really does have some value. It retains a kind of sacredness which we respect, even though we no longer believe in the religiously sacred. The ritual of swearing an oath is precious as a last resort, when it is really really important to get at the truth, and we should respect it. Respect means not only that we should not lie under oath. It also means that judges and prosecutors should not abuse the oath by asking impertinent questions of witnesses under oath: questions about private matters where nobody has the right to pry.
It is a little analogous to the story of the boy who cried wolf. Crying wolf, or shouting "fire" is something we should never do frivolously or as a prank. It is too important. Truth where fire is concerned is sacred. Don't abuse it, because one day there really will be a fire. In the same way, don't abuse the sacredness of the oath by asking witnesses illegitimate questions about private matters which tempt them – with some justification -- to lie. That's the conventional direction in which we assume nature will take us. One day, you may need to ask a genuinely important question, where you really do need to get at the truth. Then you will regret having abused the sacredness of the oath.
That is what I meant to say, and I'm sorry I seemed to be suggesting that it is OK to lie under oath. That was going too far.
Richard
148. URGENT APPEAL: Please Help Protect Ayaan Hirsi Ali
Comment #89400 by Richard Dawkins on November 20, 2007 at 2:29 pm
I just used the computer in the lobby of the Embassy Suites Hotel in central Washington DC to log in to our site. I was reading this thread when I was denied access to Page 2. The hotel's computer censor popped up a message telling me that the page contained material that was unfit for young people to see. The offending phrase was specified as "genital mutilation". Interesting that young people are deemed unfit to READ ABOUT something that is actually DONE TO millions of young people in Islamic culture, including the young Ayaan Hirsi Ali.
Richard
149. The Turning of an Atheist
Comment #84928 by Richard Dawkins on November 4, 2007 at 8:47 am
This is one of the most damning pieces of investigative journalism I have read for a long time. Congratulations to Mark Oppenheimer. The cynical exploiting of this poor old man is nothing short of disgraceful. I wish there were some way for Varghese and the publishers to be taken to court. At least, this whole distasteful episode will serve as yet another telling example of the desperation of the religious lobby -- that they are prepared to stoop so despicably low.
Richard
150. Make Richard Dawkins a Knight
Comment #82960 by Richard Dawkins on October 28, 2007 at 11:06 am
When's Prof D going to pop his head around the virtual door and tell us whether he'd like a gong?
I like having the queen around to represent us - yes, she is of a different time, but she may be the only public figure we have who displays grace and restraint. old fashioned? maybe, but in our celebrity and chav-oriented society I think a bit of aristocratic behaviour redresses the balance.
alternatively, can I suggest sweeping away the current royal family (figuratively I guess) and making David Attenborough king?