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Comment #131647 by Diacanu on February 22, 2008 at 9:28 pm
We've kicked the "historical evidence", point down several times, but he just doesn't want to acknowledge it.
How the hell do you tell people things they don't want to accept?
1702. Are the 'New Atheists' avoiding the 'real arguments'?
Comment #131643 by Diacanu on February 22, 2008 at 8:49 pm
Shrommer-
It is only by His mercy that we are not all likewise consumed.
1703. Are the 'New Atheists' avoiding the 'real arguments'?
Comment #131638 by Diacanu on February 22, 2008 at 8:37 pm
Shrommer-
God loves and accepts homosexuals and does not discriminate against anyone.
1704. Fleabytes
Comment #131626 by Diacanu on February 22, 2008 at 6:52 pm
SRWB-
*Sigh* you're right.
Let the ugly little fascist hang himself with his own words.
I'll try to lighten up and laugh him off.
1705. Fleabytes
Comment #131623 by Diacanu on February 22, 2008 at 6:18 pm
SRWB-
Now we all know that some of the regular posters on this site, myself included, can be quite heated and insulting, with any variation of expletives and insults being used in most original and constructive ways. Some have been downright rude, sometimes disgustingly so.
1706. Feb 12th: Happy Darwin Day!
Comment #131614 by Diacanu on February 22, 2008 at 5:44 pm
wooter-
The big frog is asking big questions?
1.Why was not evolved? What is wrong with me?
2.Why was I the same as the living ones today?
1707. Fleabytes
Comment #131568 by Diacanu on February 22, 2008 at 3:23 pm
kaiserkriss-
Don't mean I can't at least throw in my two cents.
*Shrug*
1708. Fleabytes
Comment #131552 by Diacanu on February 22, 2008 at 2:42 pm
Oh, and unlike some, I don't even have morbid rubbernecking curiosity about what DR has to say.
We all know it's going to be slippery bullshit at best, and disgustingly insulting at worst, and all wrapped in cartoonish martyrdom.
Listening to it would be like going through the motions in Groundhog Day.
And then from there, it's going to be the response the the review, the response to the response, the response to the response to the response, and DR gets to shovel more of his bullshit and bile, and the thread is just going to decay into a morass like i've seen a thousand times on other boards.
He doesn't deserve the attention, fuck him.
1709. Fleabytes
Comment #131550 by Diacanu on February 22, 2008 at 2:37 pm
Richard Morgan-
Here, here!!
1710. Over half of Britons claim no religion
Comment #131537 by Diacanu on February 22, 2008 at 2:08 pm
the great teapot-
Oh, you hadn't heard that?
Yeah, one of the things we've learned from chimps and gorillas that use sign language, is they love poo humor.
Seriously.
Poo, flatulence, toilets, they're like little kids.
1711. Over half of Britons claim no religion
Comment #131529 by Diacanu on February 22, 2008 at 1:59 pm
the great teapot-
Um...scatological onomatopoeia is english.
I know they're big dictionary words, but you got Google at your fingertips....
1712. Over half of Britons claim no religion
Comment #131519 by Diacanu on February 22, 2008 at 1:49 pm
Yeah, that's right, gas humor.
Humor so low, zoo monkeys love it.
I went there.
USA!! USA!! USA!!
1713. Fleabytes
Comment #131515 by Diacanu on February 22, 2008 at 1:44 pm
al-rawandi-
No American guy goes to the bathroom with another guy.
1714. Over half of Britons claim no religion
Comment #131513 by Diacanu on February 22, 2008 at 1:42 pm
Steve Zara-
You forgot the scatological onomatopoeia!!
Here, lemme fix that for ya...
"Species level selection is a major force in evolution"
*BROOOMMPPT!!!*
Yeah! That felt good!
*BREEOOOMPPT!!*
Whoa, did you see the elephant run under my chair?
*SNAPPPT!!*
Ow!!!
1715. Fleabytes
Comment #131501 by Diacanu on February 22, 2008 at 1:32 pm
Quetzalcoatl-
Di-A-Ca-Nu!!!!!!!!!
1716. Over half of Britons claim no religion
Comment #131493 by Diacanu on February 22, 2008 at 1:28 pm
Steve Zara-
if I said something dumb every now and then, I would be OK?
1717. Fleabytes
Comment #131485 by Diacanu on February 22, 2008 at 1:21 pm
Corylus's username when read inside my head sounds like one of the yells given out by the Street Fighter guys.
Y'know "ha do ken!!", "ha-oow doken!!", "Cory-ory-oolus!!!".
1718. Fleabytes
Comment #131453 by Diacanu on February 22, 2008 at 12:56 pm
al-rawandi-
Ah.
Should've known.
Successful rackets leave no stone left unturned.
1719. Fleabytes
Comment #131440 by Diacanu on February 22, 2008 at 12:45 pm
Well, christian apologists may be a bunch of slippery greased eels, but look at it this way.
As far as I know, islam has no apologetics.
They just threaten to kill you.
And do.
Christianity has to use weasel-ism, because secular society has put their barbarism in check.
So, don't let them give you an ulcer, have a giggle.
Hopefully, this is the future that awaits islam someday.
And given their apologetics will just be toddling it its baby walker, they'll be easy pickings, because we've heard all their bullshit before.
Hmm, and that makes me wonder, will they re-invent the wheel, or will hey just steal bullshit arguments from the christians?
Now there's a show that'll need the large bucket of popcorn.
1720. Fleabytes
Comment #131120 by Diacanu on February 22, 2008 at 1:45 am
Irate_atheist-
So many gods to choose from, it's difficult to know where to start.
1721. Fleabytes
Comment #131102 by Diacanu on February 22, 2008 at 12:59 am
epeeist-
Those of us who have been on the site for a while know how manipulative he can be.
1722. Fleabytes
Comment #131079 by Diacanu on February 21, 2008 at 10:23 pm
Thought it might be something like that.
1723. Fleabytes
Comment #131076 by Diacanu on February 21, 2008 at 10:11 pm
Styrer-
but his opinion is absolutely of no importance whatsoever in either endorsing or gainsaying the import of my post.
1724. Fleabytes
Comment #131065 by Diacanu on February 21, 2008 at 9:19 pm
Styrer-
It is this notion - that you are placing your own rebuttals to Dawkins' detractors over his own possible responses to them - that leads to the idea that you are indicating that Dawkins' book was not good enough to stand alone in rebutting each and every one of Cornwell, McGrath, Robertson and Wilson's books' so-called 'arguments'.
1725. Fleabytes
Comment #130994 by Diacanu on February 21, 2008 at 4:53 pm
Steve Zara-
He tries to push buttons to get responses (like comparing gay men to child molesters, or atheists to facist bullies), he attempts to emotionally manipulate people with claims that he is being attacked and censored.
1726. Fleabytes
Comment #130992 by Diacanu on February 21, 2008 at 4:49 pm
Clearthinker-
the bile and the continual ad hominem,
the baby had just died. Somehow elephants in fridges seem somewhat trivial. At least for those of us who believe that we are more than 'throwaway survival machines'.
Of course I know that my views are offensive to many people on this site - and I know that I express them in a robust way -
the baby had just died. Somehow elephants in fridges seem somewhat trivial. At least for those of us who believe that we are more than 'throwaway survival machines'.
1727. Fleabytes
Comment #130967 by Diacanu on February 21, 2008 at 3:23 pm
Russel Blackford-
...not so much Kant as cant.
1728. Fleabytes
Comment #130890 by Diacanu on February 21, 2008 at 12:58 pm
wice-
the point dawkins makes is that if you believe in such being, then you cannot use "the universe is so complex that it must have a creator" argument, because then you should explain why you don't use the same argument on your supposed creator,
1729. Fleabytes
Comment #130855 by Diacanu on February 21, 2008 at 11:56 am
Artful_Dodger-
...that makes no ontological distinction between human beings and ... cauliflowers, or compost, or whatever.
1730. Fleabytes
Comment #130837 by Diacanu on February 21, 2008 at 11:32 am
krisking-
i wonder what drives her passion.
1731. Fleabytes
Comment #130834 by Diacanu on February 21, 2008 at 11:21 am
Artful_Dodger-
What I am saying is that if evolution is indeed indifferent, if it neither knows nor cares, then it is meaningless to expend our energies in defense of the weak and vulnerable. The "survival of the fittest" theme will always have the last word. Human dignity is of no more importance than the dignity of compost.
1732. Why Darwin matters
Comment #130628 by Diacanu on February 21, 2008 at 3:33 am
Oh, and as for Bishop/Wee Flea trolling to get some juicy quotes, well, isn't that exactly the sort of behavior Jesus would engage in?
Couldn't you just see him doing that?
Trolling message boards, pissing people off, and then quote mining them?
Well, y'know, first some water into wine, and then some healing of the sick, and then the fishes and loaves trick.
Then, after the drunken carousing from all the wine has settled down, some online shenanigans.
Y'know, go onto an atheist board, and be an utter condescending shit to people.
Can't you just see that?
Jesus the internet asshole?
Apparently his fanclub can see that, because they seem to think thats what he expects of his Jesus-kateers.
1733. Fleabytes
Comment #130627 by Diacanu on February 21, 2008 at 3:23 am
Richard Morgan-
Maybe she means she's gone from the atheist position, to the anti-theist position.
Y'know, from just plain not believing in Gods, to being flat out grateful their aren't, given the sliminess of their fanclub members.
I personally find that feeling of gratitude and relief strengthening by the second when I suffer through a typical wooter post, or see a child evangelist video.
1734. Why Darwin matters
Comment #130623 by Diacanu on February 21, 2008 at 2:59 am
wooter-
Well, I think Bishop assuming I haven't faced difficult things in my life, and thus insinuating either my life has been fluffy and meaningless, or that my grandmother's death was peachy, is pretty fucking shitty.
If your code of ethics tells you that's lovely behavior, then I want nothing to do with it.
1735. Fleabytes
Comment #130615 by Diacanu on February 21, 2008 at 2:28 am
Steve Zara-
Or are we supposed to accept "I had a funny feeling" as evidence,
1736. Feb 12th: Happy Darwin Day!
Comment #130596 by Diacanu on February 21, 2008 at 1:15 am
Hahahahahhahaaaa!!! I can't fucking breath!!
1737. Fleabytes
Comment #130588 by Diacanu on February 21, 2008 at 12:53 am
Oh, and...
Artful_Dodger-
you write off many very serious objections to a priori materialsm with a few keystrokes in which you show that you have actually missed the point.
1738. Fleabytes
Comment #130584 by Diacanu on February 21, 2008 at 12:45 am
Artful_Dodger-
But not even contemporary atheists are willing to grasp the implications of this: that talking about "human dignity" makes as much sense as talking about the "dignity" of caulilowers!
1740. Fleabytes
Comment #130567 by Diacanu on February 20, 2008 at 10:11 pm
Hmm, if "on bullshit", could be fluffed up from an article to a book with spacing, typefaces, etc, surely Paula's article could be....
1741. Why Darwin matters
Comment #130440 by Diacanu on February 20, 2008 at 2:16 pm
al-rawandi-
LOL. Indeed.
Only douche nozzles would want to chant "holy, holy, holy, holy.....", to a celestial dictator for eons.
1742. Why Darwin matters
Comment #130432 by Diacanu on February 20, 2008 at 1:59 pm
Y'know something I've noticed?
The ones who are the nicest christians, and the ones who portray christianity in the nicest light...are the ones who don't know much about it.
The ones who've read their bibles cover to cover, and have all these "sophisticated theological arguments", are the ones who spew forth the ugliest, nastiest, most deceitful and illogical reasons for having belief.
And that second group more or less accounts for 97% of the christians I've encountered online.
It's supposed to be this nice, peaceful, lovely way to live, and all I get out of these people is distortion, unreason, smugness, arrogance, passive-aggression, etc, etc.
Yeah, really good advertisement for the faith that lot is.
Ooo, sign me up for some of that shit.
Can I be a finger waving, guilt ridden, masochistic, humanity hating, superstitious, smug, and preening zombie asshole too?
Oh, please say I can!
1743. Why Darwin matters
Comment #130409 by Diacanu on February 20, 2008 at 1:10 pm
al-rawandi-
So my guess is you are going to get a nasty post from Diacanu, and it will probably be well deserved.
1744. Why Darwin matters
Comment #130387 by Diacanu on February 20, 2008 at 12:57 pm
Where are you, Bishop??
Ha?
Things got too fucking real when I brought up the real suffering of real people, instead of your fruity ass little fairy tales??
You wouldn't have the fucking balls to tell me I've never dealt with difficult issues to my face, you slimy immoral fucking little weasel piece of shit!!
Josh, ban this motherfucker.
1745. Why Darwin matters
Comment #130377 by Diacanu on February 20, 2008 at 12:48 pm
The Bishop-
and don't like to grapple with the difficult issues of life.
1746. Why Darwin matters
Comment #130368 by Diacanu on February 20, 2008 at 12:41 pm
No, Bish, atheism goes like this.
You claim there is a God, let's see some evidence.
No? You don't have any?
Well, I won't believe in this God person until you cough some up.
Good day.
1747. Fleabytes
Comment #130358 by Diacanu on February 20, 2008 at 12:10 pm
At the bottom of the article, but before the comments, there's a thingy.
Set it to "excellent".
1748. Fleabytes
Comment #130354 by Diacanu on February 20, 2008 at 12:01 pm
Everyone, rank this article excellent, it's gotta be on the top 20 list!!
1749. Why Darwin matters
Comment #130352 by Diacanu on February 20, 2008 at 12:00 pm
hungarianelephant-
Perhaps you are a different kind of bishop? Chess, perhaps, since you only seem to be able to move diagonally.
1750. Fleabytes
Comment #130030 by Diacanu on February 19, 2008 at 11:49 pm
Paula!!
First!! *hug* *cheek smooch*
Haha, suckas!!