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Comment #166297 by BillySands on April 23, 2008 at 5:25 am

debbyo, check this out for evidence of man living with dinosaurs http://creationontheweb.com/content/view/133

The thing that is supposed to be Eryops just cracks me up.

152. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #166257 by BillySands on April 23, 2008 at 3:58 am

Not only do they have to show why each of the dating methods is wrong, but why they are all wrong by the same amount.

Thats the problem with cretinists, they get it the wrong way round. They go to more and more bizarre lengths to try and fit the facts into their model. I remember someone (probably devolved) dumped a link on the flood that cut out the need to explain all that nasty geology. Their solution was to ignore. It wasn't needed because genesis was written by witnesses (sadly I can hear remnant agreeing).

I also find it funny (in a laugh at them kind of way) that we know the Pharonic line was intact. We know who the Pharoah was at the supposed time, and we know he died well after the supposed event. I cant describe how stupid creotards are. They somehow think that one family on Ararat continued the known world empires and re-populated them almost instantly and re-instated known trade links.

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Comment #166245 by BillySands on April 23, 2008 at 3:38 am

Of course Noah would have been a better boat builder

Well, he would have to be, Argentinasaurus alone weighed 100 tonnes. Wonder how they stopped the Giganotosaurses from eating them?

Whenever I am on an apologetic web site (or directed to one) the first thing I do is check out what it says about dinosaurs. It tells me instantly if I have strayed on to the nutty side.

I know this isn't particularly good evidence, since China isn't mentioned in the bible.

But ...But.... the olympics, I've seen evidence - I have been fooled by the atheistics baby bombing TV channels! And that "chineese" guy I sometimes have lunch with - Curse you Darwin - NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!


Remnant, what were noah's last words?

"Who brought those bloody termites on board?"

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Comment #166238 by BillySands on April 23, 2008 at 3:14 am

I never said it wasn't, matey. I said that an unbeliever cannot properly interpret Scripture without guidance from the Holy Spirit.

So, you admit a contradiction. "John" (probably not the real author) makes no mention of needing the holy spirit. Also, his gospel is supposedly a witness accout - no interpretation required - with or with out the holy spirit. The whole point is that this is supposed to be evidence to make you believe. So to say that we need the holy spirit is total rubbish. Which brings us to another thing. How come "the holy spirit" tells different believers different things concerning women priests, gay bishops, bombing Arabs for oil and pre-marital sex?

You have not only proven that, you have also proven that you have a problem with reading comprehension as well.

News to me. I suggest you read my answer again - if your comprehension skills are up to the job. You have clearly demonstrated logic is not your strong point. If you still feel otherwise do provide some evidence.

The truth is not an insult except to one like you that rejects the truth.

Really, and you know the truth how? I suspect if you realised that the truth was that your most cherished beliefs were worthless, would be offended by that.

I have no contempt for unbelievers I pray for them and feel sorry that they choose to remain blind to the truth. I do not send anyone anywhere. You do that by rejecting God's plan of salvation in Jesus Christ. God will reluctantly give you whatever destination you choose. I cannot determine or change your destination, only you can do that through faith in Christ.

Yeah right! You will actually find a few pre-determinist verses in the bible too - so much for consistency! You said that you have preached the gospel (which one?) and our blood was now on our hands as a result - sounds like you think you are sending us to hell.

You, "Do you happen to believe in the flood too?"

Yes

Now I can never take you seriously. There are so many fatal flaws in floodology.

Here's a simple one. Lets assume at a very conservative estimate there are currently 10 million species on the plannet (forget the obvious issue of space for now). Creationists usually boast that the fossil record is 99% incomplete. That means a total of 1 billion species have ever existed (I said it was conservative). Noah is given a week (604800 seconds) to round them up. He is therefore rounding up and placing 1 species on the ark every 600 micro seconds (To indicate how fast that is, if 1 micro second was a second, a second would last about 11 and a half days).

Is Kool aid something that is supposed to be amusingly mature, respectful and witty? Or do only retards get the joke?

155. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #165897 by BillySands on April 22, 2008 at 2:29 pm

I'll give you a pass since your ignorance of what the Bible teaches is so blatant. I do have to admit that it is humorous to watch an atheist get all befuddled by their lack of Biblical knowledge though.

Yet my little verse contradicts your boring out of context passages. John is clearly saying that his gospel is presented that you may believe - you are being selective matey!
Bring on the insults they are more amusing than your "arguments".
You do however show your contempt for humanity by not engaging properly with people you believe are going to hell - from your last post, you seem to think you are speeding us on our way, and you are proud of it.

Do you happen to believe in the flood too?

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Comment #165779 by BillySands on April 22, 2008 at 9:56 am

I find it funny that Dawkins, when caught off guard, admitted to ID in the movie "Expelled".

Did he indeed? Or was he just taking the piss out of it and you fell for it?

Be a good boy and answer your questions

157. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #165775 by BillySands on April 22, 2008 at 9:51 am

What's the best way to circumcise navyjake?

Kick his cousin's cow in the jaw

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Comment #165563 by BillySands on April 21, 2008 at 4:59 pm

TRUTHID guy

How many new base pairs do you think it takes to make a dog develop an extra claw?

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Comment #165559 by BillySands on April 21, 2008 at 4:51 pm

How can you begin to explain evolution when you can't even begin to explain where life came from in the first place?

Missed that one. You said that you had looked into this stuff (even though you didnt want to read books). This is so basic it is depressing. Evolution is not the theory of abiogenesis - dont even ask about that! You came here talking about macroevolution and people here want answers from you first. Can you begin to understand why well informed people get frustrated when we get the same misinformed stuff from ignorant people who claim to know what evolution is about and why it is wrong?

Maybe new folk shoud be directed to FAQs before they are allowed to set up an account and play with the big boys and girls

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Comment #165545 by BillySands on April 21, 2008 at 4:18 pm

So why do you believe in evolution?

Evidence. You can find it in things called books and peer reviewed scientific journals(yeah, I know that was hitting an unarmed man with a sledgehammer)

Here's a scientific question: can evolutionary biology explain how creationists developed the ability to write without ever having developed the ability to read?

I think the evidence supports the idea that retards evolved from creationists. Perhaps, these guys are back mutations?

This also solves the problem of how come there are still creationists about if they all evolved into retards.

Iamb_Farticus
Good that you at least recognise Stein is a twat. Take the next step and say so without letting your dislike of Dawkins make you look like a crotch maggot!

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Comment #165487 by BillySands on April 21, 2008 at 2:06 pm

If I were walking in a desert and came upon a highly detailed intricate sand castle, would I assume it developed by chance because I did not see the creator?

Do sand castles acquire mutations and pass them on to their offspring? Are these sand castle offspring then subjected to natural selection?

Such ignorance it hurts!

Still not watching the Ken Miller video I see.

Are you David Robertson in disguise? Seriously!

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Comment #165478 by BillySands on April 21, 2008 at 1:58 pm

TheTruthID - always a great start - shows you have an open mind. I'm waiting for one called "IamRightAndYouBabyEatingDarwinistFagPigScumAreWrong (the pixies told me so)" - Probably too many letters for them.

I think you have shown that you are not interested in learning - you wont read books and that video I posted is over an hour long yet you have posted again within a few minutes.

You are proposing a designer, so we want evidence. Saying to cant work something out is only evidence that you cant work something out.

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Comment #165448 by BillySands on April 21, 2008 at 1:36 pm

If someone can show me how something simple can evolve into something complex, I'd be more than willing to listen.

Enjoy! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVRsWAjvQSg

Pay attention to the flagellum, and ignore the disgusting prayer at the start.

164. Open Letter to a victim of Ben Stein's lying propaganda

Comment #165441 by BillySands on April 21, 2008 at 1:27 pm

More importantly - every time you fail to answer marks you out to be a complete no-nothing and we deduct another 10 from your estimated IQ. Not long before you are down to negative numbers.

You are in a more generous mood than me here. I fear that when he left whatever fundie site he came from to come here, that he significantlly lowered the average IQs of both sites.
Maybe he will tell us why ID is science, but I have a feeling that he wont

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Comment #165437 by BillySands on April 21, 2008 at 1:20 pm

You ask, what does ID predict? How has MACRO-evolution predictions been tested and whether it can be falsified and misrepresented? I want to know what tests were cunducted and what the results were. I challenge you to show me one shred of scientific evidence that proves MACRO-evolution?

http://www.smh.com.au/news/science/fourfinned-dolphin-an-evolutionary-throwback/2006/11/05/1162661544728.html

Now go away and stop bothering us with your ignorance - unless you can show me some evidence of creation. A film of god doing it would do it - any god

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Comment #165435 by BillySands on April 21, 2008 at 1:15 pm

Comment #165318 by MPhil

Well said.

Robertson, you are a disgusting little cunt!

167. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #165409 by BillySands on April 21, 2008 at 12:53 pm

Remember the guy who came across from Vox Day's site with the penis replacement as an avatar.

Was it on his head?

Bullies are cowards, and keyboard bullies moreso.

The guy sounds a pussy with a small penis

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Comment #165399 by BillySands on April 21, 2008 at 12:47 pm

Is navyjake for real?

My Family considers it an Honor to give your life for others.

If I can find someone contemplating suicide, would you kill yourself in his place - pretty please?

I grew up in a God-loving culture that doesn't believe in killing innocent babies or euthanizing the worthless.

What? like doG does in Exodus 11 or Joshua?

my predecessers enjoyed killing Darwin-loving Nazis wherever they could find them.

Dont you mean nazi loving christians? http://www.nobeliefs.com/mementoes.htm

And like I said, my side doesn't start anything, we just pray to God that he give us the strength to finish it.

You mean like Vietnam? You reall showed the world how to get your asses kicked by some short guy on bicycles. Caught Osama yet?

Shame David Robertson is not here to see the tolerant love of christians.

169. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #164312 by BillySands on April 20, 2008 at 3:30 am

Remnant are you Di from the FCOS? You sound insane enough, then I saw this "You are free to believe whatever you wish but so far you have not detailed what you believe so I conclude that whatever it is you do believe is based on blind faith."

http://www.fcosonline.org/index.php?topic=25.0;prev_next=next#new

Sounds very like your answer to one of my posts (which wasn't what I asked - something Di seems to do a lot)

Those hell comments and your denial of evolution are typical of David Robertson's church

170. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #164307 by BillySands on April 20, 2008 at 3:23 am

It is one thing to believe that we are going to hell. It is quite another to to think that you have somehow been responsible for it and be proud of that fact. I hope we find a cure for remnant soon. I feel sad that he cant enjoy the benefits of a functional and balanced mind.

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Comment #164298 by BillySands on April 20, 2008 at 3:02 am

He's going to be next to us in hell, if memory serves.

Bollocks! That's just going bring down the neighbourhood and lower the property values in hell now!

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Comment #164292 by BillySands on April 20, 2008 at 2:47 am

I'll do just these three or four for you because like I said, the problem is that you are unsaved and cannot have an understanding of the Bible. The error is with your understanding

Isn't that the so called gnostic heresy that you some how need a special inside knowlegde- this gut cant even agree with other christians (infact none of them can - so much for its truth).

Strange that John should have a different take on the gospels:
John 20:31"but these have been written so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing you may have life in His name."

It appears no special knowledge is required - if you believe fairy stories that is!

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Comment #164290 by BillySands on April 20, 2008 at 2:32 am

Yes a little Scripture, God's truth brought into the mix is alway good to set the atheists amok.

God's truth? How do you know? Have you seen him dictate it? Can you independantly verify it's truth? Are you somehow a peer of this false god that you would know? If so, how can we independantly validate that you are? Here's a worrd you clearly find offensive: EVIDENCE?

Why is it when you look at messianic prophecies in their originial context they are not about jesus? (eg isaiah 7:14, micah 5:2) You have swallowed a lie and cant see it! Sad little troll!
Why did "god" PROMISE a descendant of David would always be on the throne - obvious lie! Oh and that decendant shold be from solomon and not nathan as luke says.
When you start quoting the bible in evolution debates, you have lost.

Now to this

I shared the Gospel with you, now your blood is on your own hands.

Wow, this is a really evil thing to say. I imaginge you with your cock in your hand getting off on the fact that you have some how condemned us to hell. If this is what christianity does to people, you can stick it up your arse - with your cock - go fuck yourself child abuser! I dont see why I should be polite or respect someone who acts like that!

I dont think we should answer this moral degenerates questions. He says god is the source of creation and morality etc. The burden of proof lies with him, and would do sp even if we had no answers of our own

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Comment #164132 by BillySands on April 19, 2008 at 3:40 pm

im right in saying he said that ID is testable by getting a bacteria and if you can select for a flagellum over time then it would falsify it?

However if you dont produce one, it does not confirm Behe position - you almost certainly will die before acheiving it, or you may not apply the correct selective pressures, or use bacteria that have "usable pre-adaptations". We can show that ID fails and is worthy of note as the geocentric theory. No one has shown it succeeds

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Comment #164121 by BillySands on April 19, 2008 at 3:07 pm

The Casimir effect shows that something can be created from nothing.

Don't these guys ever get tired of looking stupid? That's the problem when the ignorant comment. Even an informed person arguing from a point of incredulity is still in danger of being shown wrong by newer discoveries. It's like saying I dont believe in black swans because all swans are white (reasonable enough in itself) Then someone discovers a black swan. Reasonable people accept that not all swans are white. Creationist types deny the swan's existence, or say we are not willing to accept other paradigms where the swan is actually white.

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Comment #164114 by BillySands on April 19, 2008 at 2:54 pm

Remnat, why have you lied? Still waiting for an answer. No more troll snacks for you until you answer our questions. You keep changing focus when you are stumped.

You don't have the critical thinking skills to explore the evidence.

You have still to provide some. I'm bored with you. You lie and avoid the issues and make sweeping statements and seem to act like you know what people believe - you are nothing more than a creationist parrot who has not show any desire or ability to back up his own case.

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Comment #164107 by BillySands on April 19, 2008 at 2:34 pm

perhaps this then.

Is he a christian nazi?

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Comment #164101 by BillySands on April 19, 2008 at 2:20 pm

Quetz, I cant possibly work out how you did that. My personal ignorance of this matter convices me even more that you are god. Quetzdidit!

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Comment #164091 by BillySands on April 19, 2008 at 1:57 pm

perhaps I could use the pics in a post that discusses the punishment for those who do not believe in my divine status :-)

Or we could just feed them to my nun eating venus fly trap (aka Quetzian nun traps) http://musingsofastrangemind.blogspot.com/2008/04/my-army-grows-stronger.html

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Comment #164083 by BillySands on April 19, 2008 at 1:48 pm

You must be very welcome at parties :)

Not at christian ones :-)

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Comment #164078 by BillySands on April 19, 2008 at 1:42 pm

I thought maggots only ate pus and dead tissue?

The victim was a creationist!

Seriously though, some species (generally called bot flies) do eat living flesh. I could probably look out some pictures if you ever want to do a blog post on gods love

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Comment #164076 by BillySands on April 19, 2008 at 1:39 pm

Thanks.. That is going to really help me have pleasant dreams tonight.

Typical atheist, disgusted at any show of love by your creator. I'll pray for you

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Comment #164073 by BillySands on April 19, 2008 at 1:34 pm

Just came back from a trip to Europe. The area I was visiting abounded with rabbits. There I saw a baby rabbit with it's eyes picked out, probably by ravens or other such bird - the remainder of it was virtually untouched! So I suppose that was part of God's plan as well.

I have seen human brains eaten by maggots (while the person lived). All praise the loving YAHWEH!

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Comment #164067 by BillySands on April 19, 2008 at 1:27 pm

Is that you absolute determination?

When you say something that is untrue, by definition that is absolutely a lie. So why did you do it?

I am not going down the morality line until you answer your questions and also tell us why you accused me of saying you swore? But I am not appealing to god - you presumably believe lying is wrong - but that is what you did! By definition you lied, I want to know why.

Thought you had gone out. Another lie?

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Comment #164037 by BillySands on April 19, 2008 at 12:56 pm

Remnant. Why did you lie?

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Comment #164028 by BillySands on April 19, 2008 at 12:40 pm

Remnant, Why did you lie? Is this ethical? Why should we believe anything you should say now?

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Comment #164025 by BillySands on April 19, 2008 at 12:38 pm

And you have not answer the questions that are put to you except repeating the questions in rhetorical "answers" like a bot. Why don't you answer epeeist's questions for a start.

Is it possible that remnant is not a real person? Amazing, non intelligence can pass for a creationist and fool us all

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Comment #164013 by BillySands on April 19, 2008 at 12:32 pm

Pardon me, but it seems that you are the one that is lying now. I have not used profanity, called anyone a name, or made any sort of personal attack. Why do you have to resort to that?

I did not say that you had used profanities - why did you lie and say I did?

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Comment #164010 by BillySands on April 19, 2008 at 12:29 pm

Really, is that your argument from authority?

That is my observation - not authority! Lets put it to the test - speak up anyone he who is interested in his argument from authority

Rather that discuss you adult fairy tales which are nothing more than speculations, why don't you show me just one living transitional creature.

This is one of your most ignorant questions yet. To be transitional, there must be something that it has changed into - that would have to be something in the future and not existing in the present

Your muslim mate has the right and free will to believe whatever he wants, act accordingly, and receive the fate he chooses, and so do you.

Why cant you actually read? I askes why you did not accept his authority when he says christianity is wrong?

Last chance now, provide your evidence

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Comment #163999 by BillySands on April 19, 2008 at 12:16 pm

Looks like remnant has given up on evidence and started throwing general insults. Living up to creotard ideal.

Offend
Lie
provide no evidence
lie some more
avoid the issue
quote mine
be rude
ignore question
get pwned and throw about more insults

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Comment #163993 by BillySands on April 19, 2008 at 12:09 pm

Remnant,
Do you deny natural selection as a mens of non randomly generating change?

Only bother answering if you are willing to provide some scientific proof for creationism, cos I wont bother replying if you dont. All you creationists do by refusing to provide testable evidence is confirm what we already know. ID/creationism is not science

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Comment #163986 by BillySands on April 19, 2008 at 12:02 pm

Remnant,
No one is interested in the argument from authority fallacy. How about you actually prouce some evidence - we can - oh look, an archaeopteryx - oh look, telomere sequences inside chromosome 2 - oh look fossilised ofactory genes - oh look, pakicetus exactly where you would expect to find it - both spatially and temporally. So, forget the fact that you personally just cant come to terms with probability arguments based on an misunderstanding/misrepresentation of evolution, prvide some evidence for creation in a scientific manner.

PS, my muslim mate says christianity is wrong - think about why you dont accept this argument from authority

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Comment #163941 by BillySands on April 19, 2008 at 10:24 am

See, that's what happens when you read only creationist misrepresentations of the theory of evolution.

Yeah, they have to lie or they will be found out

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Comment #163921 by BillySands on April 19, 2008 at 9:33 am

Pacman, I really love the date of your references. Not only do they fail to actually take account of how evolution actually works (oh and sex increases rates of evolution too), they are from a time when few genes were actually sequenced and molecular relationships determined. Known base pairs now run into billions

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Comment #163913 by BillySands on April 19, 2008 at 9:18 am

Creationist probability arguments
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/abioprob/abioprob.html

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Comment #163909 by BillySands on April 19, 2008 at 9:13 am

Only from prior research I have done. Give it a minute or two to sink in.

????????

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Comment #163906 by BillySands on April 19, 2008 at 9:10 am

Pacman,

What part of my previous post concerning these calculations being flawed did you not understand? What parts of creating new genes did you ignore? Oh, that's right, all of it!

I'm guessing you are also misrepresenting abiogenesis too!

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Comment #163902 by BillySands on April 19, 2008 at 9:05 am

I can't see my farts either but I believe in them.

Try doing one in the bath. In fact, fill a jam jar with water, put it into the bath and collect the fart. It smells of ... of... creationism!

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Comment #163898 by BillySands on April 19, 2008 at 9:02 am

Only responding to your insult asking for an open mind. Yours seems to be quite closed concerning alternative explanations. I really have to go.

Strange you took a request for honest debate as an insult. Strange you think I should accept your belief without evidence. Strange that you said we dont want to explore other alternatives when I told you exactly what it would take to destroy evolution.

Perhaps you will spend your time away looking for evidence. I want some positive evidence from you - none of this attacking what evolution is not about. I want to see the evidence of your belief.

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Comment #163891 by BillySands on April 19, 2008 at 8:55 am

Sometimes, I wonder if your minds are so open that your brains have fallen out.

Really? Do you think an insult is evidence for creationism?

He pulled a "number 10". Quele suprise! :)

Is there a list of theist excuses somewhere for future reference?