151. Islamic Creationist and a Book Sent Round the World

Comment #57009 by Zaphod on July 18, 2007 at 6:31 am

With so many great books out there, with so much to learn, if even one person reads this when they could be reading something else. It is sad.

152. Interview with Ayaan Hirsi Ali

Comment #57006 by Zaphod on July 18, 2007 at 6:22 am

[QUOTE] 26. Comment #56884 by quill on July 17, 2007 at 4:23 pm
Summer Seale wrote:

Atheists who don't like what she just said, by and large I believe, are having a visceral leftist reaction which kicks back at anything that says "Islam is bad". They *have* to point and say "but...but...we're so much worse".


Don't be childish. Atheists don't say that. I don't know a single atheist who thinks Christianity is worse than Islam. Islam is the most barbaric and intolerant religion in the world.

Comparing Islam to Christianity is like comparing bubonic plague to influenza. You can't excuse one of them by saying the other is more deadly, but one of them clearly is.

153. Interview with Ayaan Hirsi Ali

Comment #57004 by Zaphod on July 18, 2007 at 6:13 am

I think Avi Lewis had some valid points. It did seem like Ayaan was portraying a naive vision of American Democracy. However I think what she was actually trying to show was that you can't compare Iran and Sharia law to some Evangelical Christians who are accountable to the law. A lot of corruption exists in America and especially in the government. That said I'd rather live there than in Iran.

154. Believing the Unbelievable: The Clash Between Faith and Reason in the Modern World

Comment #56161 by Zaphod on July 14, 2007 at 7:08 am

I agree with many of the previous comments. I have heard these views from Sam Harris before. The same or similar sentences. This is really the same with Richard Dawkins and Christopher Hitchens. This only the case because I like hearing them talk and reading their books and articles.

I found this talk enjoyable. I particularly liked Sam's new 2nd commandment "Try not to deep fry all your food".

The points made by Sam do need repeated because the general public aren't all literature junkies. Not everyone scours websites looking for speeches and talks and articles lol.

155. A force for good?

Comment #55049 by Zaphod on July 9, 2007 at 9:49 pm

"One of the things I find most intriguing in debates like the one at the Manchester International Festival this weekend, which asked "Is religion a force for good?", is the way that atheists tell me what I believe. They define the God they don't believe in and then tell me it's the God I do believe in. When it isn't."

Dawkins, Harris, Hitchens et al would probably need a separate book for the multitude of ambiguous and vague concepts of god that people believe in. They try and include what most people believe. The fact that Paul Valley doesn't realise this is telling.

"So I'd like to define what I believe, and not have someone else do it for me."

Atheists would like this also. We get told we think we know 100% there is no god. We get told we are the most immoral people in the world. We get told we are nihilists. That is just 3 comments levelled at atheists from religionists.


"Where I start from as a religious person isn't with philosophical paradoxes that ask how God can be both all-powerful and all-loving. I start with a sense that there is purpose in existence. That we are connected to something bigger than ourselves. That we find greater fulfilment by relating to that and by seeking the shimmer of transcendence. God is not an "invisible being" who "commands, rewards or punishes. God is not to me a particular "being" at all, but rather the power of Being itself. God is a supreme moral ideal to be reverenced for its value not for its controlling power."

I think there is about 10 people in the world that believe what this guy does.

"Critics of religion get stuck somewhere between the infantile and adolescent stages."

This seems to be the only stages we see from religionists

"There is a coherent social vision running through the Old and New Testament, focused on a God who demands justice, who takes the side of the poor and the marginalised, and who calls for a radical new understanding of human love, commitment and responsibility. That informs how I behave and treat other people."

I now seriously doubt this person has read the new testament. If he gets that view.

"But a Christian humanist like me does not premise morality on fallacious foundations; rather my morality is undergirded by my faith at a much deeper level. Religion doesn't make me a better person than AC Grayling But it makes me a better person than I would be without it."

A Christian humanist? That sound oxymoronic to anyone else? As for religion making you a better person than you would be without it. I see this as a flaw in your own psychology, not something you should be proud of.

"Faith isn't just good for some individuals. It is good for society. Go out in Manchester tonight and you will find people of faith doing soup runs to the homeless; presbyteries giving shelter to asylum seekers; Christians giving up a day's salary a week to work for those organisations in the city most in need; street pastors out at 2am working, in tandem with the police and city council, with young people and drug addicts who have no one to turn to. It's the same across the country, whether its shelters for the homeless in London or Salvation Army members in Glasgow who collect food on its sell-by from Marks & Spencer every night and take it to drug addicts in tenements where the doors bear scorch marks and axe blow"

Secular charities can't do this? You need not believe in irrational and supernatural things to do moral duties. I don't have to believe I will be rewarded in heaven to buy the big issue or give a homeless person some cash.

"I've seen examples all over the world. People of faith are the first in many difficult situations and they are usually the last to leave."

Any evidence to back this claim?

"More open-minded atheists accept that. "For every one of the grand tragedies provoked by religion there are 10,000 acts of personal kindness and social good that go unreported," Michael Shermer, the president of the US Skeptics Society has said. Or as Roy Hattersley has written in the Guardian: "It is impossible to doubt that faith and charity go hand in hand." He adds, "Men and women who, like me, cannot accept the mysteries and the miracles, do not go out with the Salvation Army at night."

Surely this proves that it isn't needed to be moral or to do charity work

I am finished. Nothing new I am afraid. Seems like someone who just needs to believe. His views are vague and his concepts are not what most people believe.

156. Christopher Hitchens - God Is Not Great

Comment #55045 by Zaphod on July 9, 2007 at 9:26 pm

Rtambree wrote "Yes, bring Alistair McGrath within firing range of Hitchens - that'll be interesting. The trouble is McGrath's beliefs are so vague and his statements so vacuous, it will be a challenge for Hitchens to score points."

Very true. Alistair McGrath's beliefs do seem to be vague, ambiguous, and vacuous. He talks like he is a deist or pantheistic and then moves on to a sort of pseudo Christianity. Then asserts that he relates to Christianity because , WAIT FOR IT "IT MAKES SENSE TO HIM". This is their great intellectual, their great theologian. It makes sense to him. Seriously?

Who wants to put 5 quid on McGrath mentioning C.S. Lewis in the debate with Hitchens. He has done it in the 4-5 debates I have seen him in.

157. Won't anyone stand up for God?

Comment #54640 by Zaphod on July 8, 2007 at 10:07 am

"I can tell you for a fact that God is no delusion- that He is real to me and that He does exist. What other man would have ever died on the cross to save humanity from our sins so that we could be reconciled with God?

- Rosalee D, USA"

Well how fecking scientific Rosalee D from the USA. I am totally convinced.

*sarcasm*

158. Unorthodox Atheist

Comment #54152 by Zaphod on July 5, 2007 at 4:48 pm

Hello Reed Braden,

I am sorry you had to go through this ordeal. It really does sound like a lost script from The Outer Limits. The fact that you could be breaking a rule lending any book to a student is madness to me. No one has the right to tell you what you can and can't read in my opinion.

The double standards and hypocrisy surely stings. I am glad that you at least exist in this environment. A champion for freedom of speech and free expression against the armies of ignorance and inane convention.

Stand up for what you do believe in. Although we atheists may not believe in a deity we do however have principles that are just as unshakable as the faith based but we are at least backed up with reason and compassion.

159. Floods are judgment on society, say bishops

Comment #53527 by Zaphod on July 1, 2007 at 11:32 pm

Yes and Bishops fuck little boys because they have been bad. They deserved it didn't they.

Religious twat.

160. Inferior Design: Richard Dawkins reviews Behe's lastest book

Comment #53343 by Zaphod on June 30, 2007 at 9:49 pm

They get charity status for trying to retard science. How that is legal I will never understand.

161. Richard Dawkins talks about Darwin and his visit to the Galapagos

Comment #52981 by Zaphod on June 28, 2007 at 10:44 pm

Yes, these videos from Galapagos trip are great. Keep them coming.

162. Lecture on Neo-Darwinism

Comment #52746 by Zaphod on June 28, 2007 at 1:41 am

Sigmund I totally understand your points. What I would say is that Richard wasn't speaking to a bunch of geneticists or cell biologists. I think the majority where lay people who are interested in science. I am not sure who most of the people on the trip with him are but from some of the questions he got asked that is what I sensed.

163. Lecture on Neo-Darwinism

Comment #52720 by Zaphod on June 27, 2007 at 11:31 pm

This was a very enjoyable lecture Richard. I'd just like to thank Richard for giving it and Josh for making it available.

The singers at the end where quite hilarious. Well done to them for doing that. I would like to second their sentiment and thank Richard for his dedication to the public understanding of science with the books that he has written. I own them all. I actually have 2 copies of The Selfish Gene and 2 copies of The Ancestor's Tale (1 paperback and 1 hardback). I am such a geek lol.

I agree with the previous poster Enlightenme.. that it was fun when Richard had to explain some basic genetics and evolutionary terms to some of the audience.

Love the critique of religion but I love the science more, so hopefully more science lectures :-D.

164. Lecture on Neo-Darwinism

Comment #52713 by Zaphod on June 27, 2007 at 10:25 pm

That is a great t-shirt. Must find it.

165. Rival to evolution may enter schools

Comment #52709 by Zaphod on June 27, 2007 at 9:58 pm

Luckily a lot of people spoke on that forum on the side of sanity.

166. In Defense of Witchcraft

Comment #52361 by Zaphod on June 26, 2007 at 9:05 pm

The point of the article was to show how ridiculous some of the reviews have been. The evidence for witchcraft is the same for any god so it is an apt comparison. It also serves to deflate the undeserved respect people have for religion, which it is about as reasonable and rational as witchcraft.

167. Look Forward to Anger

Comment #52358 by Zaphod on June 26, 2007 at 8:58 pm

Freedom of speech is paramount. If in my life I offend anyone with what I say, TOUGH!

No one has to listen to what anyone else has to say. You can stop reading, switch off the TV or walk away.

I will not be silenced by anyone, especially bigots with no moral leg to stand on.

END OF RANT.

168. Supreme Court nixes suit over faith-based plan

Comment #51978 by Zaphod on June 25, 2007 at 7:08 pm

White House spokeswoman Emily Lawrimore called the ruling "a substantial victory for efforts by Americans to more effectively aid our neighbors in need of help."

She said the faith-based and community initiative can remain focused on "strengthening America's armies of compassion."

ARE YOU FECKIN KIDDING ME? ARMIES OF COMPASSION.

169. Executive Actions to Promote Religion Ruled Beyond Court Scrutiny

Comment #51977 by Zaphod on June 25, 2007 at 7:04 pm

The Bush administration and the Christian fundamentalist party (Republicans) have been trying for nearly 8 years to destroy America. They want to turn it into a theocracy. Thomas Jefferson and Paine would be ashamed of the country that now exists.

Oppression comes in many forms. You sometimes don't even know you are being oppressed. I hope every secularist in America now knows that they are.

170. God Hates the World

Comment #51976 by Zaphod on June 25, 2007 at 6:59 pm

Truly disgusting . These people should have their children taken away from them.

I liked the bit in this program (I watched it all) when Keith Allen asks one son of the mother(I forget her name) are you Sam? Are you the illegitimate one? Sam is stunned and can't reply and his mother tries to come to his defence. Allen pwned her though. It was good to see.

171. The Present Threat of the Religious Right to Our Modern Freedoms

Comment #51709 by Zaphod on June 24, 2007 at 8:40 am

A fantastic talk. Americans should take note. That guy is a real patriot. He mentioned some scary stuff. Everyone in America should watch this talk.

172. Doctors' beliefs can hinder patient care

Comment #51599 by Zaphod on June 23, 2007 at 5:08 pm

This Doctor (all though I hate to call him that) did not put the patients rights first. He put his own religious views a head of a patient. She should take the to court. I am unsure of the legality in America of such things but still. This is fucking ridiculous.

173. 'Purity' ring case in High Court

Comment #51421 by Zaphod on June 22, 2007 at 8:06 pm

DO NOT STICK YOUR COCK IN SOMETHING TILL UR PRIEST SAYS SO. THIS IS WHAT GOD WANTS.

SUPPOSEDLY

UTTER BULLSHIT.

RELIGION IS OBVIOUSLY MADE UP BY MEN>

174. Hitchens vs. Hitchens

Comment #51189 by Zaphod on June 21, 2007 at 10:23 pm

Linda thanks for this http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio3/nightwaves/pip/bncg6/ link. Philip Dodd is one of these pseudo intellectual non-Christian Christians. What he believes is so far from the consensus of what most Christians believe. Hitchens is right when he says you can't grasp with it, you can't argue with it. Spiritual dribble indeed Mr Hitchens. Insubstantial nonsense.

175. Hitchens vs. Hitchens

Comment #51185 by Zaphod on June 21, 2007 at 9:58 pm

Wow Christopher's brother is a complete tool. He really believes that nonsense about morality. It is so obvious that we first evolved a primative morality that over time was changed and honed. This morality increased with our development of language which allowed greater social structures spanning more than just a few villages. As Christopher says we would have got where we are today if we didn't kind of notice that certain stuff wasn't ok.

If an absolute morality came from god then why do morals constantly change. If god exists and is absolute why aren't our morals the exact same as 50 years ago or 100 or 1000 years ago.

176. Bill O'Reilly and Kirk Cameron on Atheism

Comment #51184 by Zaphod on June 21, 2007 at 9:43 pm

Bill O'Reilly is a contestable tool and wouldn't know journalism if it kicked him in his pompous ass.

Kirk Cameron is either a completely dishonest fraud or the dumbest person on the planet. Dumber than Homer Simpson or Timmy from South Park.

177. The new preface to The God Delusion paperback and Q&A

Comment #50951 by Zaphod on June 20, 2007 at 4:06 pm

Thanks for putting up the Q&A Josh.

178. Interview with Richard Dawkins

Comment #50755 by Zaphod on June 19, 2007 at 8:14 pm

Had to be one idiot claiming it takes faith not to believe in something. Also the claim she made about Darwin disavowing evolution on his death bed is utterly disgusting and cowardly. This is how they fight against atheists, this is how strong their faith is. It is so strong that they have to make up lies in order to protect it. Make up lies to re-enforce the original lies.

179. Interview with Richard Dawkins

Comment #50730 by Zaphod on June 19, 2007 at 6:05 pm

Not a very long interview with Richard. The Mayo/Hitchens link posted by USA_Limey is great. Hitchens pwns a reverend. Classic Hitch.

180. Richard Dawkins on his online alterego

Comment #50712 by Zaphod on June 19, 2007 at 3:08 pm

How long before google becomes sentient?

181. The new preface to The God Delusion paperback and Q&A

Comment #50709 by Zaphod on June 19, 2007 at 2:56 pm

Great stuff Richard. I want to see the Q&A. Does anyone think that will be posted?

182. Atheists: stand up and be counted

Comment #50576 by Zaphod on June 18, 2007 at 8:53 pm

To Diplo Fantastic comment Diplo.

Great article by Adam Rutherford. AC Grayling and then Rutherford. Two good articles on the topic of atheism from the Guardian. They must be getting a nose bleed over there.

183. Vatican cardinal calls on Catholics to stop funding Amnesty

Comment #50066 by Zaphod on June 14, 2007 at 7:51 pm

Cardinals have no say in this matter. They should keep their mouths shut. Stupid elderly virgins. Typical nonsense.

184. Can we really learn to love people who aren't like us?

Comment #49912 by Zaphod on June 14, 2007 at 4:28 am

Yes Billy my comment has disapeared. :-(

I e-mailed Josh as it says he has made adjustments to the comment area and e-mail him if anything strange happens.

185. 60 SECONDS: Richard Dawkins

Comment #49507 by Zaphod on June 12, 2007 at 7:47 am

Hi All,

Billy the files are posted below. 2 JPEGs showing 4 atheist responsese to the critic.

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w311/Mjhavok/chris1.jpg

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w311/Mjhavok/chris2.jpg

Regards

-Zaphod

186. Christopher Hitchens on The Hour

Comment #49424 by Zaphod on June 11, 2007 at 11:46 pm

Good interview. George from the Hour was also good with Dawkins. He lets the guest talk but interacts. One of the few interviews where the interviewer isn't a wank like O'Reilly or Hanity.

187. Can we really learn to love people who aren't like us?

Comment #49372 by Zaphod on June 11, 2007 at 4:52 pm

TO DEVOLVED: The physical laws you are referring to like the law of physics etc are not laws that where written in stone and deemed 100% absolute and then handed to Newton, Faraday, Einstein and Hawking. These laws and you could include in this theories, are mathematical descriptions and scientific models of how the universe seemingly and constantly behaves. They get changed and updated with new information. Laplace updated Newton, Einstein updated Newton and added some of his own. Faraday showed that electricity and magnetism where one and the same "electromagnetism".

I think your fundamental error in perception is that laws are unchanging and unalterable. At the most fundamental level of the universe this may in fact be the case but it may also not be. Einstein was puzzled that the universe could be understood also when he said "The most incomprehensible thing about the universe is that it is comprehensible".

Astrophysicists have several theories which perhaps aren't fully accepted yet because grand unified theories of the origins of these laws are difficult to prove experimentally. One such theory is that there exists many universes and we just happened to exist in one with these certain law and perhaps all forms and combinations of laws exist.

To say it must have bee a law giver(we know you mean god)is a massive presupposition without any evidence. We have found evidence for most of the scientific questions we pose and found them to be natural in origin.


I would also like to list a few things that also aren't needed to explain the nature of physical laws.

1. The banning or disrespect of adult, consenting sexual intercourse.
2. That Jesus was born of a virgin
3. Cutting of a child's foreskin
4. Tell people they are going to a place of fire and torture which you can't show on a map or star chart.
5. The changing opinion of infallible popes.
6. Praying to a non existent entity in order to change its unchangeable mind to alter a perfect plan (WTF?)
7. Dressing women in head to toe black.
8. That thought that certain books are magic.
9. The sanctity of meat. I mean cows.
10. That a delusional illiterate madman in a cave hallucinated and wrote a book which was dictated to him by the hallucination.

188. Tome truths

Comment #49361 by Zaphod on June 11, 2007 at 4:04 pm

Nice and succinct.

189. 60 SECONDS: Richard Dawkins

Comment #49229 by Zaphod on June 11, 2007 at 4:31 am

In response to this critic http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w311/Mjhavok/dawkins.jpg
in the Metro I wrote this:


"Hello,

As someone who has actuallly read the God Delusion twice and not just read poor critical articles of the book I would ask critics like reader "Chris from Edinburgh" to actually read the book before commenting. It is Richards own opinion that religious indoctrination and naming a child catholic or protestant or muslim is a form of mental child abuse. As a scientist and not a philosopher he believes the question of god is scientific. You can certainly test gods supposed attributes by scientific means. Prayer studies have been done and we have seen no front page heading that read "Amputee regrows limb". Do I really need to mention the illogical assertions of "omniscience, omnipresence and omnipotence"? In the book Professor Dawkins refutes many religious claims and also gives Darwinian reasons for morality. Professor Dawkins and others (I humbly include myself) care about the truth and if what we believe is actually true. We aren't satifised with just believing things because they make us feel good. We believe faith (believing without proof or evidence) is dangerous. What else in your daily life would you just take on faith? I will finish as I started as a plea to anyone interested in this issue "Please read the God Delusion before making a comment on its content".

As an addition. To Chris from Edinburgh: if you think Professor Dawkins is a great scientist but a lousy philosopher check out A C Grayling, a philosopher and his book Against All Gods: Six Polemics on Religion and an Essay on Kindness."

190. House Votes to Expand Stem Cell Research

Comment #48508 by Zaphod on June 8, 2007 at 8:04 am

"Science is a gift of God to all of us and science has taken us to a place that is biblical in its power to cure," said Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Democrat of California, arguing for the bill's passage."And that is the embryonic stem cell research."

Even when they try and do something good the bow down to bullshit.

191. Atheism is the absence of belief

Comment #48426 by Zaphod on June 7, 2007 at 11:12 pm

Atheism isn't a view of life.

Atheists for the most part tend to have a metaphysical naturalistic view of life (if you leave out Buddhists and the likes).

A lot of atheists subscribe to secular humanism. This is why the Brights movement was started. It is a humanistic and naturalistic view of life. Also the brights name tries to get away from the religious and false negative stigma attached to atheism.

A follow the same mode of thought as most Bright's but I call myself an atheist.

My world view would be metaphysical naturalism.

192. Atheism is pretentious and cowardly

Comment #48134 by Zaphod on June 6, 2007 at 6:02 pm

The whole debate comes down to a dichotomy in thinking. Atheists like myself believe and accept things because reason and rationality and because our beliefs are backed up by evidence. We accept our beliefs even if they make us feel bad. Even if certain truths about reality aren't comforting. This is because they are backed up with evidence and rational thought. Not faith.

Atheists care if what they believe is true.

Theists believe what they want because it is comforting. This is what it comes down to when you have eliminated the lack of education factor, the ignorance factor and defeated all the arguments. They use the faith card so no further discourse can occur. Religious people believe in sky daddies and the afterlife because it is comforting to them.

On a side note atheists don't know 100% that a god doesn't exist. We have a lack of belief in gods because we generally don't believe in things that have we no evidence for the existence of.

193. Atheism is pretentious and cowardly

Comment #48123 by Zaphod on June 6, 2007 at 5:27 pm

The Guardian is just getting worse and worse.

194. Atheism is pretentious and cowardly

Comment #48122 by Zaphod on June 6, 2007 at 5:23 pm

Philos you seem like just another pussy atheist who thinks we should cow to religion and show it some kind of deserved respect which in fact it doesn't deserve.

The fact is that if Hitchens, Harris, Dawkins and co where talking about politics and not religion you wouldn't be making your comment.

Many secular charities exist. Did you search for long? A list:

http://atheistvolunteers.org/
http://www.hollows.org/


American Red Cross
The American Red Cross, a humanitarian organization led by volunteers, guided by its Congressional Charter and the Fundamental Principles of the International Red Cross Movement, will provide relief to victims of disasters and help people prevent, prepare for, and respond to emergencies. The USA's premier emergency response organization, over 91% of Red Cross spending is on charitable services.

United Nations Children's Fund
UNICEF mobilizes political will and material resources to help countries, particularly developing countries, ensure a "first call for children" and to build their capacity to form appropriate policies and deliver services for children and their families. UNICEF provides emergency and disaster relief.

Doctors without Borders
Doctors Without Borders/Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF) is an international independent medical humanitarian organization that delivers emergency aid to people affected by armed conflict, epidemics, natural and man-made disasters, and exclusion from health care in nearly 70 countries.

Oxfam International
Oxfam International is a confederation of 12 organizations working together with over 3,000 partners in more than 100 countries to find lasting solutions to poverty, suffering and injustice. The Oxfams operate in over 100 countries worldwide working with local partners to alleviate poverty and injustice.

Council for Secular Humanism
Provides secular support services to non-religious people throughout North America. Look to it for help with plans for weddings, funerals, conferences, speaking events, etc.

The Nature Conservancy
The Nature Conservancy is a leading international, nonprofit organization dedicated to preserving the diversity of life on Earth. An environmental group that protects natural habitats and the wildlife within them. Focuses on "science-based" initiatives.

Population Connection
Population Connection is the national grassroots population organization that educates young people and advocates progressive action to stabilize world population at a level that can be sustained by Earth's resources. Works against faith-based policies that are supported by the Religious Right.

Earth's Atheist Resistance To Holy Wars And Religious Devastation - A growing atheist charity, EARTHWARD is a nonprofit, nonpolitical, nonmembership public-benefit charity organization that provides humanitarian relief aid to civilian victims of religiously motivated violence.


Not a charitable organization, but a 501(c)3:
Internet Infidels Support

The Internet Infidels is the world's only nonprofit educational organization to use the Internet exclusively to promote agnosticism, atheism, freethought, secular humanism, and metaphysical naturalism. The Secular Web is a warm refuge to our core community of atheists, agnostics, humanists, and freethinkers.

195. Hamas Kindergarten Graduation Ceremony

Comment #47529 by Zaphod on June 4, 2007 at 9:33 pm

Terrible. This can't be set at the foot of religion only. Western foreign policy hasn't helped this region.

196. The Myth of Secular Moral Chaos

Comment #47527 by Zaphod on June 4, 2007 at 9:32 pm

He is right. It is easily dispelled. The problem is so many easily believe it.

197. 6 Billion Bits of Data About Me, Me, Me!

Comment #47524 by Zaphod on June 4, 2007 at 9:19 pm

Yes I read about this before. Very interesting stuff.

198. Holy Hot Rods

Comment #47494 by Zaphod on June 4, 2007 at 5:39 pm

Stupid.

199. Debate between Richard Dawkins and Robert Winston

Comment #47408 by Zaphod on June 4, 2007 at 12:19 pm

Wow. Looks like that David guy got seriously pwned.

Better luck next time David.

200. Beggars belief: Robin McKie on The God Delusion

Comment #47066 by Zaphod on June 3, 2007 at 12:33 am

"Best of all, though, was the London Review of Books. Why no reference to the epistemological differences between Aquinas and Duns Scotia? it thundered. As criticisms go, good just isn't the word for that one."

PZ Myers courtiers reply works best to deal with daft comments like this.

http://richarddawkins.net/article,463,The-Courtiers-Reply,PZ-Myers