Comments by Quetzalcoatl

1951. Fleabytes

Comment #136644 by Quetzalcoatl on March 1, 2008 at 2:08 pm

Steve-

yeah, but any of us can do that. It's called suicide :)

1952. Fleabytes

Comment #136638 by Quetzalcoatl on March 1, 2008 at 2:05 pm

Hey, what's up with the clone of me? Has someone been dabbling in black genetics again? I'm looking at you, Brian English!

1953. Fleabytes

Comment #136600 by Quetzalcoatl on March 1, 2008 at 1:38 pm

It is very hard discussing with fundamentalists who tend to take every thing to its literal extreme.

Well, I guess I've been told.

1954. Fleabytes

Comment #136597 by Quetzalcoatl on March 1, 2008 at 1:36 pm

Brian-

the "death threats" thing was some kind of joke between NMcC and Scottish Geologist, I think, which he jumped on as something to complain about. No Sabbath day declared, since people work all days of the week, and I don't want anyone to feel like they are breaking my Law.

Paula-

I have to agree there, but I do feel a little guilty since a lot of my recent posts have consisted of trading animal names and sarcasm with other posters. :(

1955. Fleabytes

Comment #136587 by Quetzalcoatl on March 1, 2008 at 1:24 pm

Brian-

nope. Clearthinker's now decided he DOESN'T want to debate RD, which is strange since he spent most of his last thirty posts telling everyone how he wants to. Apart from that, no concrete evidence has come to light. Oh, and we've been chastised for off-topic posts (atheists in general, not just you and me).

1956. Fleabytes

Comment #136552 by Quetzalcoatl on March 1, 2008 at 11:50 am

Corylus-

Incidentally, with regards to charity in general I notice that there are two types of people. Those that give and say nothing about it and those that do it merely to brag about it. What category are you in?

Well put.

1957. Fleabytes

Comment #136527 by Quetzalcoatl on March 1, 2008 at 11:07 am

Irate_atheist-

No. Technically, that would be a disaster

Only for you, godless atheist. That tenner would pay for some nice DVDs for the reverend.

1958. Fleabytes

Comment #136513 by Quetzalcoatl on March 1, 2008 at 10:52 am

irate_atheist-

I lost a tenner out of my pocket last night. Is this a reverse miracle?

It is if it ended up in a church's collection plate.

1959. Fleabytes

Comment #136496 by Quetzalcoatl on March 1, 2008 at 10:36 am

Clearthinker said-

Finally - I have no real desire to debate with Dawkins. It's not really high on my list of priorities. Someone who can speak so disrespectfully (and to be frank is not that good a debater) is not really high on my list of people to debate with.

But on Feb 28th-

I am always willing to debate with you. When you are ready let me know

And on Feb 27th-

Would you be willing to debate anytime? I know that you have the answer 'it would look better on your CV than mine', but that really will not wash. I have no interest in a CV. I am doing what I want to do and am happy to continue. You could on the other hand demonstrate to the world how nasty, mean etc I, and the kind of Christianity I represent, really are. Instead of taking cheap shots from behind your barricades using people like Fred Phelps, or 'debating with people like Bishop Holloway (by the way I assume you have seen the publicity for your 'debate' with Holloway in Edinburgh on April 1st - apparently you are going to talk about your very different views on religion and science - I wondered what those were - until I saw the date of the debate!), why don't you accept a challenge to debate me. I know I will never convert you, and I would never try to (that's God's job) but you could persuade me - then I would repent in public and convert to atheism. The offer is always there if you want it.

Feb 25th-

If I am such a fool, idiot etc as above then in debate Richard would be able to expose me and that would be the end of things. Of course there is always the risk (a small one) that he would lose.

I'm confused.

And also-

And if that fails then they will swamp any thread with a load of meaningless posts which apparently are incredibly witty to this particular atheist sub-mindset

I'm going to have to ask that you try and grow a sense of humour.

1960. Fleabytes

Comment #136184 by Quetzalcoatl on February 29, 2008 at 1:58 pm

Annabanana-

Hey, no one declared you the victor! I'll be back another day! But for now, I'm off of work...

Ah, any excuse to save face, isn't that right Anna?

OK, I'm off too then.

1961. Fleabytes

Comment #136171 by Quetzalcoatl on February 29, 2008 at 1:50 pm

Annabanana-

No, no, no! You're supposed to be helping me, not him!!!!

*storms off in a huff*

And another round goes to me. Victory is sweet.

1962. Fleabytes

Comment #136154 by Quetzalcoatl on February 29, 2008 at 1:37 pm

Annabanana-

[weary irony]Damn you, you wiley minx![/weary irony]

1963. Fleabytes

Comment #136150 by Quetzalcoatl on February 29, 2008 at 1:33 pm

Annabanana-

I'm afraid it isn't.

[Multiverse-sarcasm]Ha ha ha![/Multiverse-sarcasm]

1964. Fleabytes

Comment #136131 by Quetzalcoatl on February 29, 2008 at 1:21 pm

Annabanana-

I'll be across the pond in a couple months or so

[triple-uber-sarcasm]I'm not sure whether to be scared or to look forward to it.....[/triple-uber-sarcasm with a cherry on top]

1965. Fleabytes

Comment #136106 by Quetzalcoatl on February 29, 2008 at 1:12 pm

Annabanana-

[super-sarcasm]I am an equally formidable man, and we are roughly the same age. So unless you plan to cross the Atlantic to get me, I think I'll be just fine[/super-sarcasm]

Edit- I'll counter with my starfish.

1966. Fleabytes

Comment #136083 by Quetzalcoatl on February 29, 2008 at 1:04 pm

Annabanana-

[sarcasm]Oh, I'm so terrified, thinking of what you might do to me. However shall I carry on with my life???[/sarcasm]

1967. Fleabytes

Comment #136065 by Quetzalcoatl on February 29, 2008 at 12:56 pm

[sarcasm]What are you going to do about it Anna?[/sarcasm]

1968. Fleabytes

Comment #136053 by Quetzalcoatl on February 29, 2008 at 12:47 pm

I have returned, and I am not impressed by our various theistic contributors.

Ha! What did I just say?

I'm better than a prophet, I tells ya!

1969. US Treaty with Tripoli

Comment #136050 by Quetzalcoatl on February 29, 2008 at 12:45 pm

If a Brit may stick his nose in-

Banning guns in the US would never work. Even if it did get passed into law, the only people who would give up their guns would be the law-abiding citizens. The criminals would keep theirs and have a good laugh.

If Britain had a similar "gun-culture" (pardon the term) as the US, I would suggest making it harder to acquire guns, and combine that with a major crack-down on gun-smuggling. Plus melt guns confiscated from criminals.

1970. Fleabytes

Comment #136040 by Quetzalcoatl on February 29, 2008 at 12:39 pm

Geoff-

I suspect you already know, but I was being sarcastic! I'll have to steal Annabanana's [sarcasm] [/sarcasm] thing, just so nobody can mistake me.

I'm going to make a new prediction:

Diacanu will return to this thread, and he will not be impressed by our various theistic contributors.

1971. US Treaty with Tripoli

Comment #136028 by Quetzalcoatl on February 29, 2008 at 12:31 pm

Steve-

but does personal possession of guns protect against use of guns by criminals?

Probably not. In an area where gun ownership was prevalent, wouldn't a criminal assume that his victims would be armed and therefore make sure he has a gun, the bigger the better?

1972. Fleabytes

Comment #135757 by Quetzalcoatl on February 29, 2008 at 8:54 am

Good grief. It's like wrestling blancmange

Perhaps if two scantily-clad young women were involved, it might be more entertaining?

1973. Fleabytes

Comment #135742 by Quetzalcoatl on February 29, 2008 at 8:45 am

al-rawandi-

you should feel honoured. Last week he left the site in disgust. Today he came back, promising a brief stay. And he's still around. He's gong to bury us with evidence any moment now. You wait and see.

1974. Fleabytes

Comment #135711 by Quetzalcoatl on February 29, 2008 at 8:25 am

Peacebeuponme-

Paula had a dream, that one day she would be the best reviewer of Flea books that there ever was. And now, thanks to hard work, perseverance, and the willingness to wade through page after page of execrable writing, she has achieved it.

1975. Fleabytes

Comment #135700 by Quetzalcoatl on February 29, 2008 at 8:09 am

Steve, all I was saying with these references is that other posters here have vastly outdone Robertson when it comes to abuse. I'm not as brittle as some people have taken me to be. In fact my point is that theists posting here have, if anything, proven less brittle than many of your fellow atheists, if references to Robertson's supposed nastiness are anything to go by!

AD, I disagree. While some posters are certainly more direct than others, few are genuinely nasty.

Robertson may not hurl out-and-out insults, but he is often no less nasty because of that. He specialises in snide insinuations, back-handed insults, misquoting and provocation.

Nobody will deny that he has made good comments in the past (long ago). But these are tainted by his overall attitude, especially for someone who claims to be "saved".

1976. Fleabytes

Comment #135676 by Quetzalcoatl on February 29, 2008 at 7:44 am

Artful_Dodger-

Does parodying Dawkins' conception of humans resulting from natural selection as "meat machines" really constitute "nastiness" as one poster seemed to think?

Was that the comment I reproduced? Are you saying that you DON'T think it's nasty to use the death of a child to make a jibe at atheists by suggesting that we somehow care less thanks to Darwinism?

1977. Fleabytes

Comment #135648 by Quetzalcoatl on February 29, 2008 at 7:17 am

I haven't been paying attention. Has AD admitted that Robertson's comments are nasty yet?

1978. Fleabytes

Comment #135599 by Quetzalcoatl on February 29, 2008 at 6:05 am

Artful_Dodger-

here's an example for you.

Comment #74561 by The Wee Flea on September 29, 2007 at 2:22 pm

I have just got back from hospital where I was visiting a 40 year old woman and her husband who had just had their first child. Got the phone call half an hour ago that the baby had just died. Somehow elephants in fridges seem somewhat trivial. At least for those of us who believe that we are more than 'throwaway survival machines'

That is why people think he's nasty.

1979. Fleabytes

Comment #135583 by Quetzalcoatl on February 29, 2008 at 5:34 am

Steve-

Mr Cynical

Yes?

1980. Fleabytes

Comment #135578 by Quetzalcoatl on February 29, 2008 at 5:29 am

Artful_Dodger-

Relax Quetzalcoatl. I'm off.

- Waves goodbye -

Philip1978-

go for it.

1981. The Salamander's Tale

Comment #135576 by Quetzalcoatl on February 29, 2008 at 5:27 am

RevD-

I've probably said this before. In all sincerity, as always your way with words puts me to shame.

1982. Fleabytes

Comment #135571 by Quetzalcoatl on February 29, 2008 at 5:23 am

Artful_Dodger-

you guys really do get pissed off when someone from that strange "fantasy (for you) world" of belief in God wanders into your unholy huddle. You have shown that you are incapable of engaging with arguments that you disagree with, and go straight for the throat of those who hold them

Can anyone else hear violins playing in the background?

AD- if anything, you have shown yourself to be both incapable of dealing with challenges to your beliefs, and unable to provide any evidence to back up your assertions. Everyone else can call me Mr Cynical if they like, but I strongly suspect that your flouncing off in supposed solidarity with Clearthinker was merely an excuse for you to avoid dealing with the questions that had been put to you.

1983. Fleabytes

Comment #135568 by Quetzalcoatl on February 29, 2008 at 5:19 am

Phasmagigas-

Artful Dodger recommends Answers in Genesis. :)

1984. Fleabytes

Comment #135554 by Quetzalcoatl on February 29, 2008 at 4:57 am

ForestMist-

he was too late to defend Robertson from us evil atheists.

Artful Dodger-

flouncing off in a martyred fashion works SO much better when you DON'T return to the site about a week later. Just a thought.

1985. Fleabytes

Comment #135545 by Quetzalcoatl on February 29, 2008 at 4:44 am

Paula-

just imagine his reaction if his children became atheists.

1986. Fleabytes

Comment #135499 by Quetzalcoatl on February 29, 2008 at 3:39 am

Brian-

THOU SHALT NOT TEST THY GOD.

Anyway- if you want entertainment, check out the "Evidence can't shake your faith if your faith excludes it as evidence" thread. I appear to have found someone there who is just as mad as I am.

1987. Fleabytes

Comment #135495 by Quetzalcoatl on February 29, 2008 at 3:33 am

SG-

I have to agree about the Owl Service, I read it when I was about 8 or 10, and I could barely understand it.

1988. Fleabytes

Comment #135476 by Quetzalcoatl on February 29, 2008 at 2:40 am

Brian-

I have nothing but contempt for such flagrant abuse of the site.

http://philosophicalneuron.blogspot.com/

1989. Fleabytes

Comment #135471 by Quetzalcoatl on February 29, 2008 at 2:31 am

Brian-

you cheeky bugger! :-)

1990. Evidence can't shake your faith if your faith excludes it as evidence

Comment #135450 by Quetzalcoatl on February 29, 2008 at 1:52 am

Epeeist-

do not defile the GOD-GOD by invoking the name of the demon of stupidity known as Wooter. I/we merely consume the snowflakes, we do not design them. They are scrumptious as icecream, and three times as giggle-rific.

Richard Morgan-

Juxta's ass has now regenerated better than ever, and gained super-powers too.

Juxta-

Fellow God/half of the GOD-GOD, the murderous kittens may yet play a part in the ultimate truth. They may aggravate the non-believers by stealing their teaspoons and replacing them with earwig-tea meringues of superior taste. Then I/we can change the non-believers into Intelligently Designed Newts, with three heads each but only one ass between two.

MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

1991. Fleabytes

Comment #135437 by Quetzalcoatl on February 29, 2008 at 1:09 am

Morning everyone-

Brian-

Speaking of narcissists. Have I mentioned my blog today?

Why, no. Tell us more, please.

1992. Interview with Richard Dawkins

Comment #135045 by Quetzalcoatl on February 28, 2008 at 1:27 pm

Geoff-

to nest quotes you merely blockquote text that has alreadby been blockquoted, if that makes any sense.

blockquote blockquote TEXT /blockquote /blockquote

PLAYBALL-

welcome to the site.

Geoff's Galadriel quote was a Lord of the Rings reference.

1993. Fleabytes

Comment #135008 by Quetzalcoatl on February 28, 2008 at 12:39 pm

Paula-

in my days as a Pentecostal there was one woman in particular who was an excellent example of this. Every week during prayers she would stand up and literally go into hysterics, screaming and crying and thanking God for "saving" her from being such a wretched sinner.

I was only a teenager at the time, and to my shame it used to annoy me more than anything else. Now I look back and wonder what the effect must have been on her three children.

I absolutely agree with you. We have to counter the notion that the atheist worldview is nihilistic and without hope. If anything, teaching people that they are sinful, loathsome and damned from the moment of conception is far bleaker.

1994. Earth's Final Sunset Predicted

Comment #134988 by Quetzalcoatl on February 28, 2008 at 12:29 pm

Better start packing.

1995. Turkey in radical revision of Islamic texts

Comment #134984 by Quetzalcoatl on February 28, 2008 at 12:27 pm

Excellent. We shall see how well this goes down with the rest of the Islamic world. But even so, this is a very positive step.

1996. Fleabytes

Comment #134966 by Quetzalcoatl on February 28, 2008 at 12:12 pm

Paula-

it seems to me that, if anything, Robertson's notion of "polluted" humanity is infinitely more depressing. I can't imagine what it would be like to be taught from early childhood, that you are flawed, sinful, imperfect, that everything bad that happens is all thanks to humanity. When I attended church I saw people who genuinely seemed to intensely loathe themselves for their "sinful nature". To blame human "sin" for natural disasters is a disgusting way of keeping God from taking the blame.

1997. Evolving Mistakes

Comment #134946 by Quetzalcoatl on February 28, 2008 at 11:19 am

Geoff-

if you like science you should check out the New Scientist website too. That covers a wide range, and is very informative.

1998. Fleabytes

Comment #134945 by Quetzalcoatl on February 28, 2008 at 11:16 am

P Murdock-

perhaps this thread might seem that way to a newcomer. But I'm sure you've read for yourself that many of Robertson's comments are deliberately couched to be provocative and insulting.

Robertson has "contributed" to this site for a while, and has earned the ire of many not through the brilliance of his points, but for his obfuscation and deception. Check out the comments under his previous pseudonym of "Wee Flea" for examples of that.

If you want intelligent chat, all the other threads have that in spades. So does this one, since a lot of it has stemmed from the excellent article by another contributor.

1999. Fleabytes

Comment #134921 by Quetzalcoatl on February 28, 2008 at 10:30 am

Well, looks like I won the game. Hoorah.

Now to address Clearthinker's good points.

Er...

...

2000. Fleabytes

Comment #134872 by Quetzalcoatl on February 28, 2008 at 9:25 am

Anna-

I now have to go have dinner. To stay in the game, I'll raise you an ever-increasing plankton bloom. Coloured red.