Comments by Diacanu

2201. Fleabytes

Comment #142116 by Diacanu on March 12, 2008 at 3:05 am

Steve Zara-

you first have to demonstrate their existence.

Oh, but he doesn't have to, because goddidit, biblesays!!

2202. Fleabytes

Comment #142112 by Diacanu on March 12, 2008 at 2:57 am

Clearthinker-

there is of course no evil in the atheist universe

The fuck there ain't.

The old testament is loaded with it.
That's why it's a shitty moral handbook.
Good thing none of it's true.

2203. Fleabytes

Comment #142107 by Diacanu on March 12, 2008 at 2:50 am

Clearthinker-

we have faith there is a God because the evidence points that way.

Then present this evidence.

And again, special tingly feelings in your heart when you see a laughing child aren't evidence.

I need something like, oh, say, a fossilized God turd I can carbon date or something.

2204. Fleabytes

Comment #140473 by Diacanu on March 7, 2008 at 12:58 pm

Richard Morgan-

Kickass, I have a personal theme song now!
Thanks, and good job!

2205. The Salamander's Tale

Comment #140451 by Diacanu on March 7, 2008 at 11:46 am

Add me to the chorus of "well dones", for your post against wooter's crap, Philip.

Also, I second what Styrer said in post 464.

2206. The Salamander's Tale

Comment #140179 by Diacanu on March 7, 2008 at 3:21 am

Go for it, Phil!

*Gets out the lawn chair, and the popcorn*

2207. Richard Dawkins' US Tour begins this week

Comment #140138 by Diacanu on March 7, 2008 at 2:03 am

Yeah, what MaxD said.
;)

2208. Fleabytes

Comment #140131 by Diacanu on March 7, 2008 at 1:54 am

Cartomancer, check your PM, got a ramble for ya.

2209. Fleabytes

Comment #140128 by Diacanu on March 7, 2008 at 1:50 am

MPhil-

neither Voltaire's thinking nor Paine's thinking are any more "closer" to technology,

I didn't say they were, I was just taking the piss.
B-)

As for the rest, I know.
:)

2210. Richard Dawkins' US Tour begins this week

Comment #140120 by Diacanu on March 7, 2008 at 1:31 am

STFU, wooter.

2211. Fleabytes

Comment #140117 by Diacanu on March 7, 2008 at 1:27 am

Oh, leave Diacanu alone, Diacanu.
Why don't you pick on someone your own size, like say, Diacanu?

2212. Fleabytes

Comment #140115 by Diacanu on March 7, 2008 at 1:24 am

Diacanu-

and didn't seem to have a damn near learning disability when it comes to higher maths.

Yes, yes, you've told this story 10 times already.
How you don't seem to have a left brain, and have had to compensate with emulation modules running in your imagination cortices.
Don't tell it again, it bores us, and we hate you.

2213. Fleabytes

Comment #140107 by Diacanu on March 7, 2008 at 1:07 am

Steve Zara-

Edited to closely match Stenger's opinion.

Well, maybe Stenger would've sold more than Dawkins if he cussed more.

And maybe I could have written that filthy science book if I had paid attention on High School, and didn't seem to have a damn near learning disability when it comes to higher maths.

2214. Fleabytes

Comment #140102 by Diacanu on March 7, 2008 at 12:59 am

Steve Zara-

He seems to be saying that a lot of what we think is out there really isn't - it is just how we look at it. He believes in an objective reality.

Then, he seems to be saying what I'm saying.

That it's just a cosmological version of the illusion of design in the world that Darwinism had to kick down.

No biggie, why the overcomplication?

2215. Fleabytes

Comment #140097 by Diacanu on March 7, 2008 at 12:54 am

Steve Zara-

Because it helps to explain "fine tuning". The physical constants aren't anything special. They are just a consequence of our point of view.

Meh, it's a sloppy explanation.

Maybe if you fuck with one constant, another fucks up in response to balance out, and even though you end up with a universe that's way too fucked up for us to fathom as reality, you end up with a matrix of some sort that some kind of "life", could arise in.

So, no matter how fucked up the constants are, it'll always balance out, therefore, it wouldn't matter how things were "tuned", because the matrix of reality spewed out by a big bang always finds a level like how matter and energy within the laws of our universe balance out to form galaxies, then stars, then planets, then chemistry, then life.

It's just how things tumble together, but it looks like tuning to us.

2216. Fleabytes

Comment #140084 by Diacanu on March 7, 2008 at 12:45 am

Steve Zara-

Stenger thinks that the laws of physics are primarily just our view of things.

Pardon me for being obtuse, but....so what if it were?

If nothing exists but our observations, then our observations are what exist.

Whether my mind exists in an organic brain, or is a simulation within a tachyonic neural net database in the year 8000, I'm as real as I need to be, and science is still the observation and measurement of the persistent reality around me.

If I'm the equivalent of the character sprite in a game, and the universe science is revealing turns out to be the edges of a TV screen, then so be it.

2217. Fleabytes

Comment #140076 by Diacanu on March 7, 2008 at 12:38 am

Steve Zara-

Already been done. Google it.

Aw, damn.

Next, you'll tell me they've invented silicon balls for neutered dogs to feel good about themselves.

2218. Fleabytes

Comment #140073 by Diacanu on March 7, 2008 at 12:35 am

Bonzai-

Well I think Mphil is confusing formal and informal philosophy.

In a broad sense we all philosophize, we reflect on what we do.

That's all philosophy should need to be, IMO.

In that sense indeed "Feynman did a lot of philosophy".

But this is not philosophy as an overarching, systematic discipline.

Well, a kid with his first microscope and some pond water is a scientist as much as a guy with a piece of paper from an institute.

All just matters of degree in between.

2219. Fleabytes

Comment #140068 by Diacanu on March 7, 2008 at 12:29 am

Wait a minute...something very important is getting lost in the shuffle of this rapid fire discussion...

*Note to self, invent spray condoms...*

Phew, there, almost lost that idea...

2220. Fleabytes

Comment #140066 by Diacanu on March 7, 2008 at 12:25 am

Paula Kirby-

The problem with it as an approach in my view, though, is that it leads too many people to the conclusion that, because we can't know everything, we should accept and believe anything.

Yep, cuz that way leads post-modernism, and that way leads Alistair McGrath, and Tim & Eric's Awsome Show.

2221. Fleabytes

Comment #140063 by Diacanu on March 7, 2008 at 12:23 am

*Shrug* for my daily existence, I stick to enlightenment common sense guys like Tom Paine & Voltaire, and avoid supremacist monsters like Nietzsche, and navel gazers like Kant.
Gets me through my day just fine.

When/if Kantism leads to a laser toothbrush, or spray condoms, then I'll look into it.

2222. Fleabytes

Comment #140051 by Diacanu on March 7, 2008 at 12:11 am

Cartomancer-

Actual books don't really spring to mind here,

Then until they do, they won't exist.

*Smirk*

2223. Fleabytes

Comment #140045 by Diacanu on March 7, 2008 at 12:09 am

3900!!!

2224. Fleabytes

Comment #140043 by Diacanu on March 7, 2008 at 12:07 am

...you guys are just trying to push to post 4000, aintcha?

2225. Fleabytes

Comment #140035 by Diacanu on March 7, 2008 at 12:00 am

flying goose-

Re: post 3881.

Well, geez, I just summed all that up in posts 3868 and 3876.

Guess I'm not the dummy after all...

2226. Fleabytes

Comment #140026 by Diacanu on March 6, 2008 at 11:53 pm

....ehh, I'm sure I'm being laughed at...

There's that queasy feeling, like when I went up to the chalkboard, and started doing multiplication as addition in 3rd grade...

2227. Fleabytes

Comment #140020 by Diacanu on March 6, 2008 at 11:44 pm

flying goose-

what is a duck?

That which walks and quacks like a duck.
(And has feathers, duck guts, DNA, etc, etc, etc)

2228. Fleabytes

Comment #140012 by Diacanu on March 6, 2008 at 11:40 pm

flying goose-

Are you all Platonists then? Searching for and believing in absolute and immutable truths waiting out there to be discovered?

Not absolute and immutable, just...eh, good enough.
The whole "if it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck", deal.

2229. Fleabytes

Comment #140000 by Diacanu on March 6, 2008 at 11:27 pm

Whoa, whoa, guys, guys, this sounds dangerously close to post-modernism territory here.

2230. The Salamander's Tale

Comment #139890 by Diacanu on March 6, 2008 at 4:06 pm

righton-

No, a long wooter post can be disregarded with one word.

"wooter".

2231. Fleabytes

Comment #139888 by Diacanu on March 6, 2008 at 3:58 pm

Scottishgeologist- RE: post #3824.

Thanks. :)

I just throw it out, and hope it's funny.

Much like the drug addled, puking, gambler God.
;)

2232. The Salamander's Tale

Comment #139884 by Diacanu on March 6, 2008 at 3:53 pm

wooter, how many times, and in how many ways, do we have to tell you to fuck off before you actually do it?

You contribute nothing.

Your posts are diarrhea.

No one respects them.

What do you get out of spewing your retardation?
Do you think if you type fast and hard enough, your righteous indignation will murder the RD.net server?
Keep dreaming.
Ah, but that's the basis of your very worldview, isn't it?
Tsk.
Poor little loony.
Well, maybe it's safer to have you abusing your keyboard, instead of out on the streets harassing old ladies.

2233. Fleabytes

Comment #139868 by Diacanu on March 6, 2008 at 3:28 pm

Bonzai-

Actually, compulsive gambler would be putting it lightly.

Given most of the universe is dark matter, and within the particles we know of, only a narrow band of quarks produce the matter we know, and then only a narrow sliver of planets could support life, and intelligent life has only existed on Earth for a speck of its history...we're talking a God on tequila, crystal meth, acid, smack, exstacy, and cat viagra, who pukes all over the racing form, and tries to rub the puke off to read the names of the horses, and can't, so makes shit up based on the weird mix of melted type, and puke nuggets.
Oh, and through all of this, you gotta remember that he's still totally tripping balls.

2234. Fleabytes

Comment #139861 by Diacanu on March 6, 2008 at 3:19 pm

Bonzai-

Ah, but if the designer were THAT shitty, one wouldn't expect him to be able to slap together a universe even as consistent as it is.

A creator on such a bender that he leaves useless heavy particles spilled all over the place, would probably be too shitfaced to work the joysticks on the machine that churned out quarks to begin with.

2235. Fleabytes

Comment #139849 by Diacanu on March 6, 2008 at 2:53 pm

Steve-

Cool. Tops, bottoms, charmed, and strange, knew about those little guys, but never thought of looking at it from the angle of further disproving design.

Indeed, this place is awesome.
Get my consciousness raised just a little bit more at LEAST once a week.

2236. Fleabytes

Comment #139846 by Diacanu on March 6, 2008 at 2:49 pm

mikejswalker-

What are we to do? We debate.

That's fine.

We can debate from the outside inward the properties of the sort of God that would make a world like this one, sure.

But the theist claims to know the mind of this God.
I'll always demand to know how they came by this knowlege.
If that stops the "debate", dead in its tracks, then it must not have been a very strong case they had.

Sorry, some parades ARE worth peeing on.

2237. Fleabytes

Comment #139837 by Diacanu on March 6, 2008 at 2:41 pm

Cartomancer-

*Holds hands in front of face*
No, no, don't, I'll be good!!

2238. Fleabytes

Comment #139831 by Diacanu on March 6, 2008 at 2:36 pm

Cartomancer-

Greek use of paederastia as a form of mentorship and military induction

And that tradition lives on as the Boy Scouts.

*Badump ching!!*

Thank you, thank you, I'm here all week, enjoy the shrimp!

2239. Fleabytes

Comment #139828 by Diacanu on March 6, 2008 at 2:33 pm

mikejswalker-

Just pointing out that the debate sometimes stops dead at the 'where's the evidence' juncture.

Well, what are we to do? Indulge the marshmallowy "God is full of sugary yummy love, and lives inside every mommy's hugs", talk?

Are we to actually debate how many mommy hugs an angel is made out of?

I mean, come on.

May as well get dragged off the side of the road to yammer about the scent of Santa's reindeer's droppings.

2240. Fleabytes

Comment #139824 by Diacanu on March 6, 2008 at 2:29 pm

Steve Zara-

There.
:)

2241. Fleabytes

Comment #139815 by Diacanu on March 6, 2008 at 2:23 pm

Steve Zara-

I am not insecure -

Then stand by your stuff, man.

And no, it's not "crass", to promote it a little.
How else will anyone see the thing?
Criminy.

2242. Fleabytes

Comment #139807 by Diacanu on March 6, 2008 at 2:16 pm

mikejswalker-

Um...I can't remember when we ever asked anyone to prove they loved God...

2243. Fleabytes

Comment #139804 by Diacanu on March 6, 2008 at 2:14 pm

Steve Zara-

I realised that there was not much point,...

If it was of interest,....

HEY!! HEY!! NO!! *Finger wave*
Don't pull that insecure stuff.
You put in all that work, and then pull back?
NO!!
Y'want me to get mad, and put the link in every thread?
I will.
That what ya want?
Eh? Eh?

2244. Fleabytes

Comment #139799 by Diacanu on March 6, 2008 at 2:03 pm

Steve-

Tch, why'd you delete?

2245. Fleabytes

Comment #139787 by Diacanu on March 6, 2008 at 1:47 pm

Bonzai-

Politics,

Um, that's very evidence based.
I need to know about an issue before shooting my mouth off about it.

sports,

Meh, not into 'em.

science,

....how in the hell could you discuss science without knowing the slightest thing about it?
Because that's what it would take to erase all evidence from it.

religion,

Well, yeah, if you were discussing knowing the nature and mind of the creator, or mindless minutiae like the color of angel wings.

philosophy,

All logic, so no dice there.

almost everything being discussed on informal internet forums like this one.

Sorry, I call BS.
*Shrug*

2246. Fleabytes

Comment #139776 by Diacanu on March 6, 2008 at 1:35 pm

Bonzai-

Well most of us hold a lot of opinions which are not evidence based on a variety of subjects we pontificate on,

Such as?

2247. Fleas on the Horizon: In Defense of God

Comment #139730 by Diacanu on March 6, 2008 at 12:45 pm

Steve Zara-

RAWK!!

*Air guitar gestures*

;)

2248. Fleabytes

Comment #139725 by Diacanu on March 6, 2008 at 12:41 pm

I took a break from the computer yesterday, did Clearthinker post anything useful in the proof-of-God department, or just more sneering passive-agressive drivel?

2249. Fleabytes

Comment #138677 by Diacanu on March 4, 2008 at 5:14 pm

mikejswalker-