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201. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #163536 by annabanana on April 18, 2008 at 1:34 pm

It depends on your definition of "smells bad". Many creatures would probably think that the penguins smell good depending on what olfactory sensations they had evolved to associate with "bad" and "good". And since the penguins are holy and they think that they smell good, then we must concede that we as humans are not fully capable of properly understanding what truly smells good.

Besides, the Italian word for penguin is "penguini".

202. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #163517 by annabanana on April 18, 2008 at 12:54 pm

al-rawandi,

What's wrong with Penguin worship? They are obviously a "transitional form" in the timeline of evolution. They have evolved to repurpose their wings as paddles. What's the kiwi got on that, huh?

203. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #163355 by annabanana on April 18, 2008 at 8:28 am

That "God shaped hole" could be a short hand for a lot of emotional yearnings. I don't think it is necessarily the result of being told things which are factually not true.

I'll concede that this could be the case. I suppose what I was trying to say is that because of his upbringing that the god-shaped hole is tied to his sense of community. Without some sort of common "spirituality", the feeling of community is not truly met. Perhaps I am way off target.

204. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #163346 by annabanana on April 18, 2008 at 8:19 am

He was hoping that these claims are true because of his needs, not that he think the truth claims are credible.

I think you've hit the nail on the head, Bonzai, which is why I've been scratching my head over RM, lately. Why doesn't he just join some other type of group? I've found my sense of community to be filled by the cycling and running groups I take part in. Maybe for him it does have something to do with being indoctrinated as a child. He feels that not only does he have a need for community but he has a "god-shaped hole" (to use DR's words) that needs to be fulfilled by this particular community because of what he was indoctrinated with as a child.

205. Sexpelled: No Intercourse Allowed

Comment #163309 by annabanana on April 18, 2008 at 7:13 am

epeeist,

Thanks for that poem. What is it from? Hopefully it isn't something I should already know.

206. Inadequate, private and late apology with grotesquely inadequate excuse

Comment #159135 by annabanana on April 11, 2008 at 1:30 pm

If I say I hate queers but I happen to be a superb surgeon does that mean I can't be trusted to treat gay people? Or could it be that I can put my opinion to one side and treat every patient the same?

If you have a true hatred for a portion of the population, do you really think it is really easy to put that aside when doing your job?

207. Inadequate, private and late apology with grotesquely inadequate excuse

Comment #159126 by annabanana on April 11, 2008 at 1:15 pm

BFKate,

Perhaps you have a differing opinion because you are in the UK, but the constituents of her jurisdiction have every right to ask her to resign if she is not properly representing them. She obviously has not made her views about atheists known to the public until now or else she most likely would not have gotten elected. Since she has until now concealed or not reported these views which her constituents and others find extremely offensive, she can and should be asked to resign. She has no business representing people she obviously hates.

208. Inadequate, private and late apology with grotesquely inadequate excuse

Comment #159030 by annabanana on April 11, 2008 at 11:05 am

I still would prefer that she resign unless she suddenly becomes educated and enlightened to the fact that atheists who are Americans have just as many rights as any other American.

209. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #158938 by annabanana on April 11, 2008 at 7:48 am

Damnit people. If I'm not on this site 24 hours a day, I miss so much stuff.

210. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #158594 by annabanana on April 10, 2008 at 7:49 pm

Frankus, I can't help it, either.

Most often, these folks suffer from a defect -- a lisp, stuttering, homosexualism, being crippled, suffering from a crippling disease, having been abused by their dads, fat bodies and ugly faces, especially.

These mentally damaged folk turn to idols whom they see as powerful, enlightened, holding a truth that can explain why these indoctrinates suffered so at the hands of others.

Ah, I see, so I turned to Richard Dawkins to tell me why I allegedly suffered all of these abuses and to make it all "ok".

211. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #158588 by annabanana on April 10, 2008 at 7:38 pm

Yes, Bonzai. It would be a strange coincidence wouldn't it?

212. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #158583 by annabanana on April 10, 2008 at 7:27 pm

Atheists suffer from Loser Syndrome. They come from the fringes of their peoples, outcasts

Damnit. I knew there was something wrong with me and I just couldn't put my finger on it. All this time I thought I got along with people. Oh well. C'est la vie!

213. Fleabytes

Comment #158341 by annabanana on April 10, 2008 at 11:14 am

al-rawandi and Quetz,

I thought it was the posts about the Russian Cult leader trying to commit suicide in what some would call a "humorous" fashion.

214. Fleabytes

Comment #158148 by annabanana on April 10, 2008 at 6:16 am

David Robertson's reply makes me sad and angry at the same time. He took the majority of the response to bash everyone at RD.net including Richard Dawkins and very little time to actually try and offer Richard Morgan any comfort. I wonder what that says about David's moral fiber and character?

215. Anti-evolution bill clears another hurdle

Comment #157693 by annabanana on April 9, 2008 at 12:27 pm

Come on, Diacanu, please don't lump all southerners together. I am one, you know. You don't see me spewing that crap all over the place, do you?

216. Richard Dawkins: 'Growth in creationist beliefs a problem for schools'

Comment #157530 by annabanana on April 9, 2008 at 8:32 am

I wasn't around yesterday, but if I had been, I would have put my two cents in and hopefully it would have been before the appalling personal attacks proceeded and possibly may have shed some light on the situation. I think the debate that ensued had little to do with Richard Morgan.

However, if I had been here, here is what I would have said: Richard Morgan made some very inappropriate comments to myself and Juxta Monkey (and there may have been others). I was indeed offended and felt very uncomfortable about it, but I didn't say so publicly. I just either ignored the comments or stopped posting on that thread for a while. Perhaps I should have said something. I tried to laugh some of the comments off, but some of them I just couldn't. To me, this is breaching the limit of simple joking if the person you're aiming your comments at feels genuinely uncomfortable about it and slightly violated. Perhaps I never should have used my own picture for my avatar, but that wouldn't have been fair to me because I should be able to come here and be treated just as fairly as anyone else no matter what my appearance.

Styrer, I understand that you were trying to help someone who you thought to be wrongly accused of something. I have done the same thing myself. However, I don't think that al-rawandi was very far off of the mark and he and I had spoken privately about how I felt about Richard Morgan's comments; perhaps "pervert" is too strong of a word, but Richard Morgan is not innocent. I will take part of the blame for not making it publicly clear that I didn't like the comments that were being directed at myself and other females on the site. The incidents with Richard Morgan were not isolated. He has said things repeatedly and only to the females. This behavior shouldn't be acceptable.

217. The Atheist Next Door

Comment #157130 by annabanana on April 8, 2008 at 3:13 pm

I love how at the beginning of the story, the journalist says something like "By all appearances, the Lowes are a normal, loving family..." as if he's about to tell you something that will show that they are not a normal loving family. WTF!?!

218. Get out of here, atheists!

Comment #156329 by annabanana on April 7, 2008 at 10:50 am

[sarcasm]Right. I forgot that this was in the Official Atheist Handbook:

You believe in destroying! You believe in destroying what this state was built upon.

Looks like she really caught him.[/sarcasm]

219. Beware the Believers

Comment #155481 by annabanana on April 4, 2008 at 2:34 pm

She said that women tend to be more emotionally invested in their opinions, and less likely to experiment by arguing tangentially.

I think I would need to see some peer reviewed research before I bought into it.

IMO, it is utterly pointless to argue a position if you wouldn't actually act on it.

That's all I have to say for now. I'm going out of town for a race tomorrow morning. Wish me luck and please don't pray for me.

220. Beware the Believers

Comment #155465 by annabanana on April 4, 2008 at 2:13 pm

Talk and thought are important, but when it comes to morality, action is what ultimately matters.

Well, then what's the point of having an ethical position if that's not what you truly intend to do when the situation arises?

I mean no offense by this, but I suspect that this might be a gender communication issue.

You should probably expand on this as the statements following it had no real bearing on this statement.

221. Beware the Believers

Comment #155445 by annabanana on April 4, 2008 at 1:52 pm

After all, you can't seem to understand the difference between arguing about ethics and suggesting that one's opponent is unethical when all of the circumstances are hypothetical. I don't think I'll be able to reach you

No. Why does it matter whether or not the circumstances are hypothetical? If a person supports an ethical position, then that usually translates into what the person would do when and if the situation arose. I don't understand why you only consider people unethical/immoral if they act on their arguments, but not if they don't. What does follow through have to do with it?

222. Beware the Believers

Comment #155408 by annabanana on April 4, 2008 at 12:48 pm

Sigh. Are you and annabanana the moderators here?

No one is moderating. Didn't you come here for the purpose of debate? Meaning, I can rebut anything that you say. If you don't want to be bothered, don't come here and post.

223. Beware the Believers

Comment #155400 by annabanana on April 4, 2008 at 12:39 pm

Men who would insist on their partner getting an abortion would be as ethically culpable as their partner, and more-so if they argue against her wishes to keep the baby. What now?

Erm...I assume you saw the posts about Cartomancer and Steve "coming out" of the closet. I don't think either of them will ever have to worry about their partners needing/wanting an abortion. So that leaves Quetz and I.

So especially since we are arguing about potentials here, you wouldn't consider Quetzalcoatl and I immoral (or unethical, as you have now revised your wording) for arguing for abortion since we have the potential to (or potential to ask our partner to)? You only consider us immoral or unethical if we go through with it?

Or perhaps there are a bunch of people on this site with preconceptions about how theists think about ethics... I still can't understand how anything I have said was taking the conversation in the "ugly" direction that I was referring to

I see, so what you mean to say is that you weren't being ugly because what you said doesn't meet your definition of ugly.

224. Beware the Believers

Comment #155384 by annabanana on April 4, 2008 at 12:11 pm

I've meant everything I said

So you meant it when you said that you didn't want things to get ugly, but then you proceeded with statements that can easily be described as ugly?

Say what? As far as I know they are not attempting to persuade anyone to get a late-term abortion, or getting one them self

So would you consider their arguments different if they were coming from a woman who has the potential to get pregnant and subsequently have an abortion?

It would be illogical to conclude that anyone is immoral simply because they disagree with me... but that is apparently the position you are taking.

First of all, a number of others thought that you were implying that they were immoral as well, so if you weren't implying that, then your language is sloppy.

Secondly, you believe that abortions are immoral, Steve, Cartomancer, Quetzalcoatl, and I believe that (up until a certain point) abortion is not immoral. I'll leave the other three out of this since you seem to want to exclude them based on their being men. But I am capable of undergoing an abortion (I assume they would undergo it, could they, since they don't think it to be immoral) and so if I were to have one, would you not think me to be immoral?

225. Beware the Believers

Comment #155372 by annabanana on April 4, 2008 at 11:59 am

I am already engaged with four and a half opponents.

WTF? I don't know who or what you mean by this, but even if you didn't mean anything by it, you should be more careful of what you say. Do you not recall the discussion we had yesterday about theists coming on this site and not respecting the arguments the women have presented?

As for your arguments...

What you should carefully consider is that there are some humans who sadly have less capacity for emotion and intellect than a chimp in a lab. Should we use them for experimentation instead, since they are less sentient and their physiology is even closer to our own?

I would be interested to know how you know this. Can you provide a link to your source of information on this?

226. Beware the Believers

Comment #155346 by annabanana on April 4, 2008 at 11:16 am

Geez! The UK is surely a different place than the US.

All I did was get my nose pierced and people were flipping out left and right.

227. Dawkins warns of human extinction

Comment #155319 by annabanana on April 4, 2008 at 10:20 am

I think Artful is exo-toxic rather than endo-toxic Al-Rawandi...


Yes. I'm feeling rather ill.

228. Beware the Believers

Comment #155249 by annabanana on April 4, 2008 at 9:16 am

Sorry, Steve. I only left you out because he did. But if they are and you are, then so am I because I think everything that all of you have said has been spot on.

229. Beware the Believers

Comment #155245 by annabanana on April 4, 2008 at 9:12 am

Yes. I just thought I would point out that he said he didn't want it to get ugly and then made some rather mean-spirited comments to others. The last, I would argue, is the worst. He may as well have come out and said that he thinks Cartomancer and Quetzalcoatl are immoral.

230. Beware the Believers

Comment #155214 by annabanana on April 4, 2008 at 8:38 am

Kardashovel,

It's like you want this to get ugly. I don't play that game.

That's weird because after you said that, you said this:

Steve, you are the artless dodger.

followed by this:

LOL. You seem to really believe you are a god.

which was then followed by this:

I am curious when they believe it becomes immoral to kill a fetus, if at all.

Don't say things you don't mean.

231. Beware the Believers

Comment #154753 by annabanana on April 3, 2008 at 4:54 pm

Corylus,

True. Actually, I inherited it. I like the rifle I inherited more. I don't actually shoot anything animate, though. Just target practice.

Upsidedawn,

I'm not sure what the difference is, but apparently Pretty Lady explained it on her blog. I don't think I have the patience to dig up that link, though. Does anyone else have it?

232. Beware the Believers

Comment #154658 by annabanana on April 3, 2008 at 2:45 pm

What does it mean, then that I own a handgun...

233. Beware the Believers

Comment #154609 by annabanana on April 3, 2008 at 1:58 pm

Kardashovel,

I wasn't really referring to you. There was some guy "becomethearrow" who was particularly vile as well as "Pretty Lady" and her Christian blow jobs.

234. Beware the Believers

Comment #154578 by annabanana on April 3, 2008 at 1:18 pm

has called women's rights "a disease that should be eradicated"

I can see that, easily. When he sent his horde of imbeciles here to promote his book, they were all chauvinistic a-holes. Even the woman he sent!

They steadily dismissed my arguments on the basis that I am a woman.

235. Fleabytes

Comment #154432 by annabanana on April 3, 2008 at 8:20 am

Genuflection I'd Rather Forego

Hehe. I rather like that one.

236. Fleabytes

Comment #154418 by annabanana on April 3, 2008 at 7:46 am

GILF...girl I'd like to...goggie I'd like to...

237. Fleabytes

Comment #154398 by annabanana on April 3, 2008 at 7:16 am

Sorry, Irate, it won't happen again.

*pokes out bottom lip and sulks*

238. Fleabytes

Comment #154393 by annabanana on April 3, 2008 at 7:06 am

American Pie came out while I was in high school, so of course I know what MILF means! I've been thinking that for weeks now, I couldn't hold it in any longer.

239. Fleabytes

Comment #154378 by annabanana on April 3, 2008 at 6:45 am

Sorry to be OT, but does anyone else find it funny that when mlearnedfriend's name is abbreviated as MLF it's really close to MILF?

240. Fleabytes

Comment #154365 by annabanana on April 3, 2008 at 6:23 am

Are they there in the form of the triple goddess, crone, wife and maid?

Oh, my!

241. Scientists reshape Y chromosome haplogroup tree gaining new insights into human ancestry

Comment #154357 by annabanana on April 3, 2008 at 6:12 am

Little known fact: the skin of Jesus was actually fluorescent. What do you think inspired the hymn "Shine, Jesus, Shine"?

Quetz,

Jesus had a mutation that allowed him to have a symbiotic relationship with some bioluminescent bacteria, didn't you know that?

242. Anti-Quran Film Fitna Pulled From Web Due to 'Threats'

Comment #154049 by annabanana on April 2, 2008 at 1:06 pm

Brian,

Just FYI sometimes I have a hard time taking you seriously when I look at your avatar. ;-)

243. Fleabytes

Comment #154028 by annabanana on April 2, 2008 at 12:22 pm

markg,

Nope. They are from somewhere in the midwest (Indiana, perhaps) and you can get their music on iTunes as well as in Best Buy, so they're a little more than just local.

244. Fleabytes

Comment #154021 by annabanana on April 2, 2008 at 12:03 pm

I think Cursive needs to be on that list as is obvious from the lyrics I posted...

Of course, I am apparently the only person who even knows who they are.

245. Fleabytes

Comment #154007 by annabanana on April 2, 2008 at 11:35 am

Another Cursive song:

"Retreat"
They checked the shrine and the temple but he wasn't there.
They checked the mosque and the chapel; nope, not there.
Since you've been away on holiday,
The natives are all nightmares.
Since you've been away on holiday,
I did dream that you'll disappear.
You keep us on a leash we can't conceive but still must adhere to.

The natives are whipping each other over which God they prefer.
I wish he'd do us all a favor and just defer.
Since you've been away on holiday,
We don't know which God is which.
And since you've been away on holiday,
It's getting harder to give a shit.
So if you stayed away on holiday we could get on with it.
I mean we could evolve like this if you just call it quits.

Since you've been away on holiday,
we've stomached your archaic rule.
And since you've been away on holiday,
We've hosted some wars over you.
So stay away on holiday, my friend, we don't need your services,
Your excuses, your mysterious ways.
Your mysterious ways.
Your mysterious ways.
Your mysterious ways.
What a mysterious way to behave.
What a mysterious way to just go away.

Lord, let us go

246. Fleabytes

Comment #153995 by annabanana on April 2, 2008 at 11:14 am

Lyrics from Cursive:

"Big Bang"
Before we ever saw straight, we were grasping at straws
A debate was born, picket lines were drawn
There was this big bang once, now we're learning to use our thumbs

We need a purpose in life, a survival guide
We need explanations for how we arrived
There was this big bang once, now we're standing on our own two feet
There was this big bang once, we've been sharpening up our teeth

They say there was this big bang once, but the clergyman doesn't agree, oh no
There was this big bang once, but it don't jive with Adam and Eve
Original sin, idyllic garden
Some talking snake giving apples away
What would that snake say if he could only see us today?
Ha ha ha!

There was this big bang once and we were left here to fill in the blanks
There was this big bang once, now we're aimlessly drifting in space
We're gonna need an explanation for rational thought
Enlightenment and the weight of our hearts
In a world of entropy, why can't we just simply be?
And don't feed me lines, intelligent design

There was this big bang once, why are we back down on our knees, huh?

247. Fleabytes

Comment #153958 by annabanana on April 2, 2008 at 9:12 am

Oh yes! I just remembered. Megalomaniac by Incubus is a good one, too.

248. Fleabytes

Comment #153948 by annabanana on April 2, 2008 at 8:59 am

mixmastergaz,

Check out Cursive's stuff. I think it's their latest album is completely satirical of religion.

249. Anti-Quran Film Fitna Pulled From Web Due to 'Threats'

Comment #153925 by annabanana on April 2, 2008 at 8:04 am

Yes, no one has murdered the guy yet
But isn't he under the same sort of protection as Aayan Hirsi Ali?

I wonder why the cartoons elicited more of a reaction

Perhaps those who reacted so violently to the cartoons realized how ridiculous they were being? I doubt it, but maybe there is hope.

250. Anti-Quran Film Fitna Pulled From Web Due to 'Threats'

Comment #153914 by annabanana on April 2, 2008 at 7:53 am

al-rawandi,

I read an interview about it before it's release and the guy who was being interviewed predicted that it would be an anti-climactic release. So far, this has proven to be true.

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