Comments by annabanana

Comment #154028 by annabanana on April 2, 2008 at 12:22 pm

markg,

Nope. They are from somewhere in the midwest (Indiana, perhaps) and you can get their music on iTunes as well as in Best Buy, so they're a little more than just local.

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Comment #154021 by annabanana on April 2, 2008 at 12:03 pm

I think Cursive needs to be on that list as is obvious from the lyrics I posted...

Of course, I am apparently the only person who even knows who they are.

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Comment #154007 by annabanana on April 2, 2008 at 11:35 am

Another Cursive song:

"Retreat"
They checked the shrine and the temple but he wasn't there.
They checked the mosque and the chapel; nope, not there.
Since you've been away on holiday,
The natives are all nightmares.
Since you've been away on holiday,
I did dream that you'll disappear.
You keep us on a leash we can't conceive but still must adhere to.

The natives are whipping each other over which God they prefer.
I wish he'd do us all a favor and just defer.
Since you've been away on holiday,
We don't know which God is which.
And since you've been away on holiday,
It's getting harder to give a shit.
So if you stayed away on holiday we could get on with it.
I mean we could evolve like this if you just call it quits.

Since you've been away on holiday,
we've stomached your archaic rule.
And since you've been away on holiday,
We've hosted some wars over you.
So stay away on holiday, my friend, we don't need your services,
Your excuses, your mysterious ways.
Your mysterious ways.
Your mysterious ways.
Your mysterious ways.
What a mysterious way to behave.
What a mysterious way to just go away.

Lord, let us go

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Comment #153995 by annabanana on April 2, 2008 at 11:14 am

Lyrics from Cursive:

"Big Bang"
Before we ever saw straight, we were grasping at straws
A debate was born, picket lines were drawn
There was this big bang once, now we're learning to use our thumbs

We need a purpose in life, a survival guide
We need explanations for how we arrived
There was this big bang once, now we're standing on our own two feet
There was this big bang once, we've been sharpening up our teeth

They say there was this big bang once, but the clergyman doesn't agree, oh no
There was this big bang once, but it don't jive with Adam and Eve
Original sin, idyllic garden
Some talking snake giving apples away
What would that snake say if he could only see us today?
Ha ha ha!

There was this big bang once and we were left here to fill in the blanks
There was this big bang once, now we're aimlessly drifting in space
We're gonna need an explanation for rational thought
Enlightenment and the weight of our hearts
In a world of entropy, why can't we just simply be?
And don't feed me lines, intelligent design

There was this big bang once, why are we back down on our knees, huh?

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Comment #153958 by annabanana on April 2, 2008 at 9:12 am

Oh yes! I just remembered. Megalomaniac by Incubus is a good one, too.

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Comment #153948 by annabanana on April 2, 2008 at 8:59 am

mixmastergaz,

Check out Cursive's stuff. I think it's their latest album is completely satirical of religion.

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Comment #153925 by annabanana on April 2, 2008 at 8:04 am

Yes, no one has murdered the guy yet
But isn't he under the same sort of protection as Aayan Hirsi Ali?

I wonder why the cartoons elicited more of a reaction

Perhaps those who reacted so violently to the cartoons realized how ridiculous they were being? I doubt it, but maybe there is hope.

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Comment #153914 by annabanana on April 2, 2008 at 7:53 am

al-rawandi,

I read an interview about it before it's release and the guy who was being interviewed predicted that it would be an anti-climactic release. So far, this has proven to be true.

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Comment #153913 by annabanana on April 2, 2008 at 7:51 am

Quetz,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_nationality_law

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Comment #153905 by annabanana on April 2, 2008 at 7:43 am

Can't they use this though? Surely they could say "Oh, little Hector is now a citizen, you must make us citizens too. We could not bear to be parted from our child". (Or something like that). Couldn't they get in that way?

As I understand it, that's not the way it works. The baby is the citizen. Period. The parents have to go through all of the proper channels if they want to become citizens which is quite expensive and daunting a task.

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Comment #153900 by annabanana on April 2, 2008 at 7:39 am

the parents become citizens as well

No they don't which puts them in a bit of a bind.

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Comment #153885 by annabanana on April 2, 2008 at 7:17 am

You worry about being off topic, on this thread? :)

Point taken.

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Comment #153883 by annabanana on April 2, 2008 at 7:15 am

Not necessarily, if the parents are there illegally, or enter the country with like a week to go before the child is born, for instance. But it depends, I suppose

This is interesting. People come across our southern border often as soon as they go into labor because our hospitals are legally obligated to care for them and their child will then legally be a citizen.

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Comment #153873 by annabanana on April 2, 2008 at 7:03 am

Oh.. I missed that. That is interesting.

Sorry Steve, that was a bit off topic. I was referring to the guy who posts on Quetz's blog. We've been having an on-going discussion there. I suppose it isn't totally irrelevant to what we're discussing here. I also wrote my own blog about him:

http://annaelizabeth82.blogspot.com/

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Comment #153863 by annabanana on April 2, 2008 at 6:54 am

Star Spangled,

Sorry to butt into your conversation but I just wanted to add that almost every Christian I know has a different take on God or their Christianity that I would consider then all adherents to separate religions. I find this to be a very good point because many admit to having a personal faith or own take on what God from what they pull from specific religion or religions. Maybe they think it's clever to pick and choose their favorite parts to create the mythology that best suits their life.

This was exactly the point I was trying to make, but the guy kept saying that there were no differences. He just didn't get it. It was quite frustrating, actually. Apparently he finally admitted to some minor differences between Catholicism and Protestantism, but he never admitted to each Christian having their own personal views.

He made some comment at one point that GWB was not really a Christian and I pointed out that GWB probably would say the same thing to him and asked him how he knew who was right? I didn't get a reply to that.

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Comment #153854 by annabanana on April 2, 2008 at 6:49 am

I am afraid that may not be possible. I cannot get this swastika tatoo they gave me to wash off. As long as people keep from lying and distorting, I will be a nice boy

Well, can we at least give it a rest for now? Yesterday was a mentally exhaustive and draining day for me.

*headdesk*

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Comment #153843 by annabanana on April 2, 2008 at 6:36 am

Quetz,

although he seems to be unable to justify why

Hehe. Imagine that. Did he ever admit that there were more versions of Christianity than can be counted?

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Comment #153840 by annabanana on April 2, 2008 at 6:34 am

I'm imagining that if second generation immigrants are not citizens in many European countries, their awkward plight might arouse sympathy we wouldn't understand here in the US. Maybe that explains the different reactions.

This is a great point. Perhaps it is one of the reasons for all of the confusion and emotion yesterday.

al-rawandi,

Maybe we should leave what happened on yesterday's thread on yesterday's thread...no need to stir it all up again.

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Comment #153831 by annabanana on April 2, 2008 at 6:20 am

Quetz,

And I still agree, mostly. But things are looking up. Jimmy has had an operation that enables him to see my blog comments once again. The operation that will enable him to give cogent answers is still pending, however

I noticed that he could now see you again. I experienced something of the same sort yesterday with Brian and then I remembered my invisibility cloak. Once I took it off, that seemed to resolve the problem. Although, it seems that the cloak only applied to Brian.

Jimmy will never give cogent answers. Even though we are on the internets, you can almost see the gears turning in his brain when he posts.

Steve,

I'm sorry if I was the cause of any distress for you yesterday.

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Comment #153818 by annabanana on April 2, 2008 at 6:00 am

Quetz,

I'm still sticking to my assertion that David is always better than Jimmy.

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Comment #153572 by annabanana on April 1, 2008 at 3:12 pm

Fuck.

*gets coat*

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Comment #153568 by annabanana on April 1, 2008 at 3:10 pm

I'm glad to know I can run everyone off so quickly.

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Comment #153563 by annabanana on April 1, 2008 at 3:06 pm

Quetz,

Why would it be time for you to leave. Now I'm confused.

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Comment #153556 by annabanana on April 1, 2008 at 3:00 pm

Quetz,

See Richard's post # 535. Let me know if it's still not clear.

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Comment #153555 by annabanana on April 1, 2008 at 2:59 pm

an abortion one day before birth is perfectly legal and accepted by the pro-choice crowd

Says who? On what planet?

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Comment #153553 by annabanana on April 1, 2008 at 2:55 pm

Ricey,

I don't think any of us have the energy to discuss this much more. Please read through what we've already argued about. As a matter of fact, I'm having to have a cup of tea right now.

Quetz,

Erm...

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Comment #153547 by annabanana on April 1, 2008 at 2:48 pm

Ricey,

We've spent all day dealing with the subject! I hope you just left off your sarcasm tags!

al-rawandi,

Uh oh?

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Comment #153540 by annabanana on April 1, 2008 at 2:42 pm

Richard,

What does the fact that I'm from SC have to do with it? Or a young lady for that matter?

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Comment #153529 by annabanana on April 1, 2008 at 2:32 pm

I'm sure you're right

Of course, it was probably more readily apparent to me what his intentions and feelings were because I know him a bit better than you.

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Comment #153521 by annabanana on April 1, 2008 at 2:26 pm

Brian,

Not to be bitchy, but maybe if you had paid attention to my posts in defense of al-rawandi, you would have seen sooner that he is not the "Fanusi" you were making him out to be.

Richard,

I'm sorry, I must've missed the joke. What's so funny?

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Comment #153485 by annabanana on April 1, 2008 at 1:56 pm

al-rawandi,

I've been trying to help clarify. And for the record, Brian, al-rawandi is not near hysteria. AND this...

perhaps as many as 7 people, represent the greatest threat humanity has ever seen. We have to get these people and stop them.

You're kidding, right?

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Comment #153471 by annabanana on April 1, 2008 at 1:45 pm

I got the impression that those listed qualify by definition.

Brian,

I believe he said everyone should be afforded due process of law.

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Comment #153456 by annabanana on April 1, 2008 at 1:39 pm

al-rawandi,

I feel like Don Quixote, and Anna is my Sancho Panza

I'm really trying to help here. I feel like some strange sort of translator...

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Comment #153452 by annabanana on April 1, 2008 at 1:35 pm

targeted for deportation

Only Fanusi advocated deportation en masse. al-rawandi said that those who can be demonstrably shown to support shariah...I don't think this qualifies as targeting people if it is demonstrable...correct me if I'm wrong.

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Comment #153444 by annabanana on April 1, 2008 at 1:24 pm

Brian,

Thanks for that delineation. I feel like I have some homework to do, now.

Quetz,

I think your suggestions are a bit too broad. What can we do specifically to implement those suggestions?

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Comment #153431 by annabanana on April 1, 2008 at 1:15 pm

Steve,

I think al-rawandi was actually trying. That is his brand of polite.

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Comment #153409 by annabanana on April 1, 2008 at 1:00 pm

Brian,

Let me know what you think:-)

Will do in about an hour when I get off of work. I can't get YT here.

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Comment #153383 by annabanana on April 1, 2008 at 12:38 pm

Brian,

Muslim extremists cannot actually acheive their goals.

What has led you to come to this conclusion? I am genuinely interested. I'm not asking rhetorical questions here.

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Comment #153376 by annabanana on April 1, 2008 at 12:32 pm

I guess if I actually believed the stuff you seem to believe, a pre-emptive nuclear strike might appear appealing. Maybe I'm projecting.

Who here advocated a pre-emptive nuclear strike (aside from Fanusi, of course)?

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Comment #153361 by annabanana on April 1, 2008 at 12:23 pm

I'm the divisive one, eh?

All this time, I thought it was the issue at hand...

;-)

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Comment #153357 by annabanana on April 1, 2008 at 12:20 pm

Brian,

Any reason you've ignored my last couple of questions?

Damn, I forgot I had my invisibility cloak on.

*Takes cloak off*

Ok, can you see them now?

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Comment #153345 by annabanana on April 1, 2008 at 12:08 pm

Let me say this before I get accused of taking "sides". I generally think that both al-rawandi and briancoughlinsworld are well-intentioned despite the fact that they remain on different sides of this "fence".

Why is it that this topic always elicits such vehement responses from people?

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Comment #153339 by annabanana on April 1, 2008 at 12:01 pm

Did I mention you in that post, was it addressed to you? It's not always about you Al.

Then who are you speaking to? Fanusi isn't here anymore and he's the only one who's advocated the types of things you're talking about.

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Comment #153338 by annabanana on April 1, 2008 at 11:59 am

Ok, this is getting a bit ridiculous. I'm all for letting people speak for themselves, but Brian, you're misrepresenting al-rawandi here:

Really, it's hardly more sophisticated than we need to nuke them before they nuke

You really should go back and read comment #355 on this thread.

I think this about sums it up. al-rawandi said:

Turn our military into an instrument of relief not oppression. Assist suffering peoples.

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Comment #153331 by annabanana on April 1, 2008 at 11:50 am

being stampeded into massive human rights violations

Who besides Fanusi has advocated massive human rights violations?

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Comment #153288 by annabanana on April 1, 2008 at 10:55 am

"You're all wrong, only I am right."

I'm not sure why you are saying this to me. I don't know what the answers are. I don't feel that I have adequate knowledge on the matter to make an informed decision or offer any real solutions to the problem. I'm not saying who is right. Only that the whole lot of you are name calling.

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Comment #153282 by annabanana on April 1, 2008 at 10:48 am

Richard Morgan and others,

Calling al-rawandi names is not helping this discussion. If everyone wants to remain calm then you should all stop calling each other names. What you all are doing is causing emotional responses in one another that you are trying to shroud in rational argument. This is thinly-veiled. I am reminded of being in a sandbox full of children.

al-rawandi has a lot of knowledge on the topic. What he is saying is not "scaremongering" and he doesn't take any delight in the fact that there are some muslims out there who would prefer if we all were dead. I think it was also rude to say that he wanted to assist people as an afterthought. If it were up to me, the lot of you can get your coats...

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Comment #153201 by annabanana on April 1, 2008 at 7:39 am

Steve,

I believe you forgot your sarcasm tags: [sarcasm] [/sarcasm]

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Comment #153199 by annabanana on April 1, 2008 at 7:37 am

Whether a final decision was yes or no does not alter the point I was making

I understand. I suppose that I just got caught up with the thought that they had indeed decided to drill and I hadn't heard about it since it's something I have an interest in.

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Comment #153188 by annabanana on April 1, 2008 at 7:24 am

Peace,

That article is from 2005. An oil company has yet to decide to drill there. I'm pretty sure that Chevron (one of the US oil companies) did some research there and realized that the amount of oil there isn't really worth it. I saw this on the National Geographic Channel. I'll try to dig up some info on it.