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Comment #151448 by mmurray on March 28, 2008 at 6:02 pm
The Johnson County Board of Supervisors took the initial action on the request from the Johnson County Historical Society, which gives tours of the 153-year-old building.
Brandon Cochran, museum operations assistant for the historical society, said there have never been reports of ghosts or bizarre happenings at the building and bringing in a paranormal team is "kind of taking the pre-emptive approach."
Comment #151445 by mmurray on March 28, 2008 at 5:57 pm
I guess this might be useful for someone who is at a loss for something to do on a Sunday after leaving an organised religion or is still transitioning and has things they want to talk about but personally I can't see the point. My Sunday consists of sleep in, youngest son's swimming lesson, weekly grocery shopping, odd jobs around the house, cook dinner, wash up, put rubbish out and go to bed. It's not like being an atheist leaves me at a loss for anything to do on Sunday (now that we have beaten the christians on shopping hours :-) )
My reaction to this is the same as to carob based `chocolate' - why bother ?
Maybe we could build atheist temples and have atheist sacrifices where were we sacrifice plastic chickens to non-existent gods. This could be followed by a round of that old favourite atheist hymn:
`We like to think freely, we like to think freely, we like to think freely ... "
Only in California.
Michael
253. Fossil find could be Europe's first humans
Comment #150907 by mmurray on March 27, 2008 at 3:10 pm
"God is not a Ford Focus
254. Fossil find could be Europe's first humans
Comment #150556 by mmurray on March 27, 2008 at 5:26 am
Does anyone know why this is thought to be a common ancestor of neanderthals and ourselves? Why isn't this more likely to be a European descendant of homo erectus who had migrated northwards while we are African descendants of homo erectus. If this is the case and the DNA evidence that we descend from a recent charge (rather than march) out of Africe is correct this isn't part of the same exodus out of Africa that we come from.
Of course we could have descended from these guys in Africa -- maybe that is what the fossils suggest.
Michael
255. Police: Girl Dies After Parents Pray for Healing Instead of Seeking Medical Help
Comment #150375 by mmurray on March 26, 2008 at 7:36 pm
Thanks MelM that is so good I can't help repeating it here
Hello brethren. About a couple months ago, our truck was having strange wear on its tires. A Christian friend, who was a tire expert, concluded that there was a problem with the front-end of the vehicle. So we scheduled an appointment for the Toyota auto shop. After listening to David's testimonies from his Wilderness DVD as well as other UBM testimonies, we decided to command the truck to be healed in the Name of Jesus. Well, soon after this prayer, the Lord reminded me about the appointment I had already made. So, our works needed to follow our faith. I called and cancelled the appointment. We considered it a done deal. Well, yesterday, our friend who originally looked at the tires said that the wear was now gone AND in fact there was smooth wear distribution on the tires. The Lord fixed the front-end perfectly! Our friend was praising the Lord too! What an awesome God we have!!!
256. Police: Girl Dies After Parents Pray for Healing Instead of Seeking Medical Help
Comment #150313 by mmurray on March 26, 2008 at 5:26 pm
jamesspills: "You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it."
OK that's pretty straightforward isn't it! Jesus really needed a good lawyer and a few political advisors to look through his speeches.
Thanks - Michael
257. Police: Girl Dies After Parents Pray for Healing Instead of Seeking Medical Help
Comment #150264 by mmurray on March 26, 2008 at 4:17 pm
These parents however actually believe more in the bible and its fairy tales than the moderates. They are "better" christians than them. According to their bible this should have worked out.
258. Police: Girl Dies After Parents Pray for Healing Instead of Seeking Medical Help
Comment #150213 by mmurray on March 26, 2008 at 3:18 pm
Even if someone believed in God why would they think that she is going to bend the rules of the cosmos and do a miracle just for them. She has already provided them with insulin and made sure they live in a country where then can access it -- how many more miracles do they want ?
This tragedy kind of resonates with this quote on Pharyngula I read last night:
http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2008/03/quote_of_the_week.php
That exemption in the Wisconsin law is scary.
Michael
259. Sue Blackmore debates Alister McGrath
Comment #149030 by mmurray on March 25, 2008 at 2:09 am
Sue Blackmore has a good website at
http://www.susanblackmore.co.uk/
Nice report on why she gave up research in parapsychology here
http://www.susanblackmore.co.uk/journalism/NS2000.html
Michael
260. It looks like Man crucified
Comment #148888 by mmurray on March 24, 2008 at 1:26 pm
Mick Hume:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mick_Hume
Started out in the Revolutionary Communist Party and ended up writing a column for the Times.
Michael
Comment #148796 by mmurray on March 24, 2008 at 12:14 am
The John Gray article he refers to is here
http://richarddawkins.net/article,2361,The-atheist-delusion,Guardian
The demise of its specific beliefs among most clear-thinking people in no way lessens my admiration for the Sermon on the Mount
262. Fleabytes
Comment #148375 by mmurray on March 22, 2008 at 7:55 pm
When I read reports like this I think that Richard and his atheist friends are being very selective with the data they use.
263. Discussion on PZ Myers being expelled from Expelled
Comment #148043 by mmurray on March 21, 2008 at 9:47 pm
While watching that movie I was puzzling over the scale of what I was watching. In case others are interested the mitochondria are (according to wikipedia) around 1-10 micrometres. A micrometre is one millionth of a metre or 10^{-6} metres. By comparison a carbon atom is 70 pico metres or 70 x 10^{-12} metres or about 10^{-10} m. So a mitochondria is about 10,000-100,000 atoms across or alternatively you can line up around 100-1000 of them in a millimetre.
Michael
264. Discussion on PZ Myers being expelled from Expelled
Comment #148035 by mmurray on March 21, 2008 at 9:23 pm
Was it the first video they used ? Interesting to note that it opens saying it is for educational purposes only and any commercial use is strictly prohibited.
Michael
265. EXPELLED!
Comment #147687 by mmurray on March 21, 2008 at 6:08 am
Evolution leads to atheism leads to eugenics leads to Holocaust and Nazi Germany.
266. EXPELLED!
Comment #147628 by mmurray on March 21, 2008 at 3:03 am
If anyone is interested there are what claim to be DVD rips of the movie available by torrent.
Interesting to see the story is already up on the IMDB message boards.
Michael
267. God's cure for gays lost in sin
Comment #146988 by mmurray on March 19, 2008 at 4:10 pm
Bit like those useless blanked off spaces in economy cars to remind you what you saved your money on when you didn't by the higher spec cars :-)
268. God's cure for gays lost in sin
Comment #146975 by mmurray on March 19, 2008 at 3:45 pm
Just out of interest what do people make of the teenage fondness for using `gay' to mean broken in some away. eg `my phones out of credit -- man that's so gay'.
Michael
269. Jesus saves
Comment #146870 by mmurray on March 19, 2008 at 1:54 pm
$4 million cannot be the Tasmanian budget.
Michael
270. Writer Arthur C Clarke dies at 90
Comment #146429 by mmurray on March 19, 2008 at 4:40 am
Yep `Childhood's End' was great and The Star. I also like the short story The Nine Billion Names of God.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Nine_Billion_Names_of_God
Michael
271. Atheists claim censorship by billboard company
Comment #146314 by mmurray on March 18, 2008 at 11:51 pm
So you are OK with something like a backpacker hostel not allowing black people to stay. This happened recently in Australia in Alice Springs. As far as I know they were completely privately run.
Michael
272. Writer Arthur C Clarke dies at 90
Comment #146301 by mmurray on March 18, 2008 at 10:32 pm
Sir Arthur's status as the grand old man of science fiction was threatened when, in 1998, allegations of child abuse, which he strenuously denied, caused the confirmation of a knighthood to be delayed.
273. Bishop accuses gays of 'conspiracy' against the Catholic Church
Comment #144950 by mmurray on March 17, 2008 at 4:49 am
It just seems odd (or does it?) that a Bishop should be so ignorant of the facts. It seems that for most people sexuality is not that changeable.
274. Bishop accuses gays of 'conspiracy' against the Catholic Church
Comment #144930 by mmurray on March 17, 2008 at 4:04 am
Well, I think this assumes that sexuality is changeable.
275. In Britain, creationist theory is evolving
Comment #144813 by mmurray on March 16, 2008 at 7:36 pm
a bearded old man
276. The business of natural selection
Comment #144392 by mmurray on March 15, 2008 at 11:29 pm
There are simpler mathematical models than this. You can subtract the company income from the company expenses and test the resulting number to see if it is positive or negative.
It would be interesting to see how different the test companies were from the training set but I can't see the article on the journal site.
Michael
277. The atheist delusion
Comment #144044 by mmurray on March 15, 2008 at 1:07 am
Presumably this is he:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_N._Gray
Michael
278. The ethics of mixing science and religion
Comment #142697 by mmurray on March 13, 2008 at 3:16 am
I would like to see evidence for this, as I know of scientists who have been funded by Templeton who I am pretty certain would not have said this.
Does the Foundation support I.D.?
No. We do not support the political movement known as "Intelligent Design." This is for three reasons 1) we do not believe the science underpinning the "Intelligent Design" movement is sound, 2) we do not support research or programs that deny large areas of well-documented scientific knowledge, and 3) the Foundation is a non-political entity and does not engage in, or support, political movements.
It is important to note that in the past we have given grants to scientists who have gone on to identify themselves as members of the Intelligent Design community. We understand that this could be misconstrued by some to suggest that we implicitly support the Intelligent Design movement, but, as outlined above, this was not our intention at the time nor is it today.
279. The ethics of mixing science and religion
Comment #142640 by mmurray on March 12, 2008 at 11:25 pm
From the New Scientist interview:
What do you make of the current debate between science and religion, in which the two are often presented as mutually exclusive?
Everything depends on your concept of rationality. Science is a model of rationality. The question is whether the limits of rationality coincide with limits of the scientific method. If they do, then there is no place for religion or theology because everything outside of the scientific method is automatically irrational. On the other hand, if you agree that they do not coincide then there is a place for rational religious belief. If you look at the recent history of science and philosophy, you can see that the dominating philosophy in western countries was positivistic, it said that the scientific method is identical with rationality and that what's beyond the scientific method is beyond rationality. Nowadays very few philosophers agree with this; we are more pluralistic
280. The ethics of mixing science and religion
Comment #142635 by mmurray on March 12, 2008 at 11:14 pm
There is an interview with the guy here
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn13454-qa-2008-templeton-prize-winner.html
Michael
281. The ethics of mixing science and religion
Comment #142612 by mmurray on March 12, 2008 at 8:59 pm
The money would just be used by the religion for some fancy planes, art, new house of slavery / worship etc. sod it i'll take it and put it to work (probably give half to saving the gorillas, i like Gorillas) and blow the rest on myself. Better then ending up as gold plating to some fucking dome.
282. The ethics of mixing science and religion
Comment #142610 by mmurray on March 12, 2008 at 8:44 pm
For what it is worth here is the list of prize winners.
Michael
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1973 - Mother Teresa of Calcutta
1974 - Frère Roger, founder of the Taizé Community
1975 - Sarvepalli Radhakrishnan, President of India
1976 - Leon Joseph Cardinal Suenens
1977 - Chiara Lubich, founder of the Focolare Movement
1978 - Prof. Thomas Torrance
1979 - Rev. Nikkyo Niwano
1980 - Ralph Wendell Burhoe, founder of Zygon: Journal of Religion & Science
1981 - Cicely Saunders, hospice founder
1982 - Rev. Dr. Billy Graham, evangelist
1983 - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, Soviet dissident novelist
1984 - Rev. Michael Bourdeaux, founder of the Keston Institute
1985 - Alister Hardy, founder of the Religious Experience Research Centre
1986 - Rev. James I. McCord of the Princeton Theological Seminary
1987 - Stanley Jaki
1988 - Dr. Inamullah Khan
1989 - Carl Friedrich von Weizsäcker, physicist and philosopher, Lord MacLeod of Fuinary, founder of the Iona Community and Indarjit Singh
1990 - Baba Amte and L. Charles Birch
1991 - Rabbi Immanuel Jakobovits
1992 - Kyung-Chik Han
1993 - Charles Colson, founder of the Prison Fellowship
1994 - Michael Novak, philosopher and diplomat
1995 - Paul Davies, theoretical physicist
1996 - Dr. Bill Bright, founder of Campus Crusade for Christ
1997 - Pandurang Shastri Athavale
1998 - Sigmund Sternberg, philanthropist
1999 - Ian Barbour, professor
2000 - Freeman Dyson, physicist
2001 - Rev. Arthur Peacocke
2002 - Rev. John Polkinghorne
2003 - Holmes Rolston III, philosopher
2004 - George F. R. Ellis, cosmologist and philosopher
2005 - Charles Townes, Nobel laureate and physicist
2006 - John D. Barrow, cosmologist and theoretical physicist
2007 - Charles Taylor, philosopher
2008 - Michael Heller, physicist and philosopher
283. The ethics of mixing science and religion
Comment #142605 by mmurray on March 12, 2008 at 8:32 pm
... and certainly better than most (all?) government funded research!)
284. Fleabytes
Comment #140925 by mmurray on March 9, 2008 at 5:46 am
Thanks for the photos Steve. Nice ones of the UK in that collection - been too long since I was there. We are in the middle of a heatwave here -- just had a week of 35-40 deg C and at least another week coming. Worst March heat in 75 years I think. The photo of your frosty back yard looked very attractive :-)
Kangaroos, wombats ... where is the koala ?
Michael
285. Out of the Blue
Comment #140873 by mmurray on March 9, 2008 at 12:39 am
Well looks to me like we don't need to call the Turing Police yet.
Michael
286. Lords Approve Abolition Of Blasphemy
Comment #139829 by mmurray on March 6, 2008 at 2:34 pm
I have my political issues with the House of Lords, but I do give them credit for amazing vocabulary. I learnt two new words; that is well worth a half an hour read.
287. Crossing the Divide
Comment #139822 by mmurray on March 6, 2008 at 2:27 pm
He looks a bit like Stephen J. Godfrey with that moustache.
I guess it is worth noting, for all the Americans who think they are getting picked on on this website, that this is about Canada.
Having been raised a Catholic and attended some Catholic schools it amazes me how many brands of Christian lunacy there are. I got told some really stupid things but I nobody, including the Marist Brother who taught me biology in Year 11, would have suggested that the earth was 6000 years old.
Why didn't he just decide that all the things that didn't make sense were put there by God to test his faith? That is the usual catch all solution to these problems.
Michael
288. Please Call Earth. We Still Haven't Found You.
Comment #138600 by mmurray on March 4, 2008 at 3:42 pm
Thanks babrock. I think it is `The Man' by Ray Bradbury. See the link in my post just above yours.
Michael
289. Please Call Earth. We Still Haven't Found You.
Comment #138198 by mmurray on March 4, 2008 at 3:49 am
Vadjong: Yes that one is The Star by Arthur C. Clarke
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Star_(short_story)
Turns out the one I mentioned is number 9 on this list
http://sfgospel.typepad.com/sf_gospel/2007/12/the-10-best-sf.html
There is also The Nine-Billion Names of God.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Nine_Billion_Names_of_God
Michael
290. Please Call Earth. We Still Haven't Found You.
Comment #138152 by mmurray on March 4, 2008 at 2:11 am
However, once there is serious migration to other solar systems (assuming they are plentiful enough in the first place) then a catastrophe in one system will not be fatal to the whole species. So I think once a civilization gets past that point, then they could exist for hundreds of thousands or millions of years.
291. Please Call Earth. We Still Haven't Found You.
Comment #138116 by mmurray on March 4, 2008 at 12:49 am
What's the difference between dedicating your life searching for Jesus, and spending your life searching for aliens?
292. Please Call Earth. We Still Haven't Found You.
Comment #137998 by mmurray on March 3, 2008 at 6:10 pm
While I'm not opposed to spending money on SETI if it means listening or looking (I'm not if favouring of advertising ourselves for lunch) I don't see how anyone can get anything sensible out of Drake's equation. There are at least three unknowns that we have no idea of the answer to IMHO:
fl = the fraction of the planets that could potentially support life which actually go on to develop life (Estimated by Drake as 1.)
fi = the fraction of planets that develop life which go on to develop intelligent life (Drake estimated 0.01)
fc = is the fraction of civilizations that develop a technology that releases detectable signs of their existence into space (Drake estimated 0.01)
There are so many coincidences and lucky breaks in the rise of the only intelligent life we know anything about. For example -- if my avatar Pikaia gracilens hadn't survived the Cambrian there might not have been any vertebrate animals. If (as Gould points out) a comet or whatever had not taken out the dinosaurs there might never have been intelligent life. More recently it seems likely that anatomically modern humans existed from 100,000 to 60,000 years ago without doing anything very interesting until something happened and a smallish group of us charged out of Africa and took over the world. No-one is sure why that happened -- Jarrod Diamond makes a good case it was the evolution of speech and Arthur C. Clarke thought it was the arrival of a black monolith. Whatever it was there is no way you can guess the probability of that event occurring -- why choose 0.01 why not 0.000001 ?
The examples on wikipedia give values for the number of civilisations that we could communicate with in the range 50 - 5000. If you divide each of fl, fi and fc by 10 you reduce those estimates to .05 - 5. Reduce even smaller and it is a suprise we are here at all.
Michael
293. Christopher Hitchens on Real Time with Bill Maher
Comment #137469 by mmurray on March 3, 2008 at 12:39 am
I assume most people have seen this but in case not it is an article about Buddhism by Sam Harris:
http://www.shambhalasun.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2903&Itemid=244
Michael
294. Christopher Hitchens on Real Time with Bill Maher
Comment #136892 by mmurray on March 2, 2008 at 12:40 am
Anyway, child-free people like me (and even people who go out of their way to get babysitters) are sick and tired of dealing with people taking their kids places they shouldn't be, i.e. restaurants, movies, shopping. We go out to relax, not deal with other peoples' personal problems.
295. Ayaan Hirsi Ali to get EU protection
Comment #136380 by mmurray on March 1, 2008 at 3:39 am
Just to add to all the other posts. This is from the on-line dictionary.
en·joy (n-joi)
v. en·joyed, en·joy·ing, en·joys
v.tr.
1. To receive pleasure or satisfaction from.
2. To have the use or benefit of: enjoys good health.
Not a good example really as good health is something you might also receive satisfaction from!
Michael
296. Ayaan Hirsi Ali to get EU protection
Comment #136339 by mmurray on February 29, 2008 at 10:59 pm
So what does this mean for people making regular donations to Sam Harris' fund for her protection ?
Michael
297. Ayaan Hirsi Ali asks for protection
Comment #129999 by mmurray on February 19, 2008 at 9:34 pm
We are both atheists trying to be rational. Therefore we should agree on most things where we have equal access to evidence.
298. Fleabytes
Comment #129879 by mmurray on February 19, 2008 at 5:40 pm
An elder must be blameless, the husband of but one wife, a man whose children believe and are not open to the charge of being wild and disobedient.
299. Ayaan Hirsi Ali asks for protection
Comment #128833 by mmurray on February 18, 2008 at 3:37 am
Linda, I agree with you- this sight could start posting articles about how stupid people are in trinidad or some other country, but instead it focuses on america constantly, it's turning me off to this website- the snobby british attitude, the know it all comments- mabye the first comment really is right on - mabye the citizens of the most important country in the world don't HAVE to care about other countries and therefore don't.
300. Ayaan Hirsi Ali asks for protection
Comment #128745 by mmurray on February 17, 2008 at 9:51 pm
For those of you who have lost the information on how to support AHA (someone above said they had) or never had it and are interested in supporting her protection here is the link.
http://www.samharris.org/site/security_trust/