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367. Comment #137737 by Goldy on March 3, 2008 at 12:19 pm
Would this treaty be valid today? Or when Gadafi was bombed?
Art. 11. As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquillity, of Mussulmen; and, as the said States never entered into any war, or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties, that no pretext arising from religious opinions, shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.
Comment #137678 by steveroot on March 3, 2008 at 10:39 am
195. Comment #137674 by Jon_Sociologist on March 3, 2008 at 10:32 am
Might I suggest that personal attacks on wooter are counter-productive... And if there is even a fool's hope of convincing wooter, it will be even further reduced by referring to wooter by reference of unpleasant bodily functions.
Comment #137282 by steveroot on March 2, 2008 at 3:43 pm
1. Comment #137249 by Deepthought on March 2, 2008 at 2:58 pm
I wonder what will happen to this statistic when my generation gets out of school? (I'm 14)
254. Fleabytes
Comment #137267 by steveroot on March 2, 2008 at 3:22 pm
2751. Comment #137223 by tstinchcombe on March 2, 2008 at 2:25 pm
Indeed, I was watching a Bart Ehrman video just the other day (I think it may have been linked from this site somewhere), in which he says there are something like 50,000 sources for the bible (can't remember exact detail, but it was definitely 10's of thousands, and it may have been just the NT, not the whole), and he really laboured the 'copy of a copy of a copy' point.
255. Fleabytes
Comment #137206 by steveroot on March 2, 2008 at 2:08 pm
2733. Comment #137191 by tstinchcombe on March 2, 2008 at 1:47 pm
So every single time it was passed on (possibly orally as well as written), translated from one language to another, and copied many, many times, the scribes never once made a mistake, ever, because 'God was looking on'?
Comment #136703 by steveroot on March 1, 2008 at 3:34 pm
228. Comment #136472 by Frankus1122 on March 1, 2008 at 9:26 am
I do see cars as a problem. I believe that a method of transportation could be designed that allows for greater personal mobility while decreasing the harm caused.
245. Comment #136534 by SPS on March 1, 2008 at 11:23 am
I can see there are some situations when use of force is morally justified, even by firearm.
223. Comment #136467 by scooternyc on March 1, 2008 at 9:12 am
Finally, someone with reason and logic along with the advance of personal freedom.
257. Fleabytes
Comment #136695 by steveroot on March 1, 2008 at 3:19 pm
2524. Comment #136691 by Geoff on March 1, 2008 at 3:12 pm
Paula: your 'click on "GOD HIMSELF"' comment; coffee>nose>keyboard. Again!
Comment #136463 by steveroot on March 1, 2008 at 9:06 am
You're welcome, Scooter. I couldn't resist.
As far as I'm concerned, if you want to carry a gun that's fine with me, as long as:
1) the gun is registered.
2) you know how to use it.
3) you accept responsibility for what you do with it.
4) hopefully you are immune to "crimes of passion".
I actually think there's something "not quite right" with people who want to carry deadly force, but if it makes you feel better, I'm happy for you. But if you shoot me, one of my family members or anyone else who is not armed, you will have quite a lot of 'splaining to do.
Ste5e
Comment #136452 by steveroot on March 1, 2008 at 8:56 am
203. Comment #136446 by Cartomancer on March 1, 2008 at 8:43 am
And winner of the 2008 Charlton Heston Award for Self-aggrandizing Macho Posturing is...
Comment #136439 by steveroot on March 1, 2008 at 7:47 am
Wow! I sleep for a few hours and this thread has gone from "christian-nation-or-not-zephyr" to "second-amendment-hurricane".
This "to carry or not to carry" question is big in Illinois right now because of the recent shootings at NIU. One wonders: how many fewer students would have been killed or injured if there had been a fire-fight in that lecture hall?
Here is my position: I don't want "concealed carry" laws where I live, but even in the event that such laws are passed, I *will not* be carrying a weapon. If someone shoots me, so be it, but they will be shooting an un-armed person. I regard the risk of this happening as very small, but I will not participate in this personal arms race. Full stop.
Ste5e
261. Fleabytes
Comment #136208 by steveroot on February 29, 2008 at 2:18 pm
2101. Comment #135910 by hello on February 29, 2008 at 10:48 am
That person will also drink of the wine of God's anger
Which person?
"If anyone worships the beast and his image and receives his mark on the forehead or on the hand, 10he, too, will drink of the wine of God's fury, which has been poured full strength into the cup of his wrath."
The context is important.
262. Fleabytes
Comment #135905 by steveroot on February 29, 2008 at 10:43 am
Revelation 14:10
That person will also drink of the wine of God's anger that has been mixed undiluted in the cup of his wrath, and he will be tortured with fire and sulfur in front of the holy angels and in front of the Lamb.
263. Fleabytes
Comment #135885 by steveroot on February 29, 2008 at 10:19 am
2057. Comment #135859 by al-rawandi on February 29, 2008 at 9:52 am
Who deifed gravity? You did.
2067. Comment #135871 by hello on February 29, 2008 at 10:06 am
It is operating within the possible parameters of gravity.
Well, that is the same as knowing God. You don't have to have anything to do with him if you don't want. He doesn't stop you. You can choose.
2075. Comment #135880 by The Reverend Dark on February 29, 2008 at 10:14 am
I am curious on how you manage to type, even your short message, with your head so far up your own arse that you could lick your appendix.
264. Earth's Final Sunset Predicted
Comment #135209 by steveroot on February 28, 2008 at 5:50 pm
19. Comment #135184 by ianmkz on February 28, 2008 at 4:55 pm
Earth's Final Sunset Predicted
Can the term sunset really be applied to the Earth? It may be sunset in Hawaii, but it's never sunset on the Earth.
265. Fleabytes
Comment #134861 by steveroot on February 28, 2008 at 9:14 am
To the tune of "The Church's One Foundation"
(http://www.oremus.org/hymnal/t/t093.html)
I heard Bryan Bowers sing this in the early 1970s:
"The dogs they had a party, they came from near and far;
And some dogs came by taxi and some dogs came by car;
And each dog wrote his na-ame all in a little book;
And each dog hung his asshole upon a separate hook.
"One dog was not invited, and this aroused his ire;
He stormed into the party and loudly shouted "FIRE!"
The dogs were so excited they did not stop to look,
but grabbed the nearest asshole from off the nearest hook.
"This is a most sad story, for it is very sore
to wear another's asshole you've never worn before;
And that is why, when dogs meet, on land or air or foam,
They sniff each other's asshole in hopes it is their own."
Try singing it!
Ste5e
266. Fleabytes
Comment #134842 by steveroot on February 28, 2008 at 9:01 am
Anna and Quetz:
Beat my Loch Ness Monster!
Ha!
Ste5e
267. Fleabytes
Comment #134819 by steveroot on February 28, 2008 at 8:29 am
1494. Comment #134811 by epeeist on February 28, 2008 at 8:25 am
I thought that was the point of the operation ;-)
268. Fleabytes
Comment #134808 by steveroot on February 28, 2008 at 8:22 am
1487. Comment #134804 by Tyler Durden on February 28, 2008 at 8:17 am
avatar
What does hymen restoration surgery do?
It restores virginity...
Exsqueeze me?
269. Fleabytes
Comment #134802 by steveroot on February 28, 2008 at 8:15 am
1483. Comment #134799 by phasmagigas on February 28, 2008 at 8:13 am
...each is as exquisite as the next, well save the latter!!!
270. Fleabytes
Comment #134795 by steveroot on February 28, 2008 at 8:11 am
1475. Comment #134791 by annabanana on February 28, 2008 at 8:07 am
I'll see your badger, voles, and stoat and raise you a lemming.
271. Fleabytes
Comment #134793 by steveroot on February 28, 2008 at 8:08 am
1404. Comment #134674 by epeeist on February 28, 2008 at 5:01 am
I wonder if Mary went to an iron age equivalent of these people - http://www.affordableplasticcosmeticsurgeryincolombia.com/Hymen-Restoration-Vaginal-Virgin.php
What does hymen restoration surgery do? |
* It restores virginity after the hymen has been ruptured. It can be performed soon after the rupture or much later. The hymen may rupture during rape, agreed intercourse, insertion of tampons, sports, falls, etc.
* If the hymeneal remnants are not big enough to be used for the reconstruction or if you a woman who were born without a hymen, the surgeon can reduce the opening of the vagina using a small portion of the vaginal mucous tissue. During the first intercourse, there will be a small rupture of this newly reconstructed hymen that will be very similar to the rupture of a natural hymen.
272. Feb 12th: Happy Darwin Day!
Comment #134779 by steveroot on February 28, 2008 at 7:49 am
515. Comment #134774 by Steve Zara on February 28, 2008 at 7:41 am
With respect, I suspect that is not Epinephrine's attitude. There are rational concerns - mistaken in my view - and they need to be dealt with.
273. Feb 12th: Happy Darwin Day!
Comment #134764 by steveroot on February 28, 2008 at 7:31 am
As a dentist, I have been vaccinated against hepatitis B. When the vaccine first came out, it was made from the pooled plasma of human donors. I declined this vaccine because of a small but potentially real risk of HIV transmission. I was probably being unnecessarily cautious but as it turned out a recombinant-DNA vaccine made in yeast became available soon afterwards, and I jumped on it.
I'm a believer (!) in vaccination because, as Steve pointed out, they are generally well-tested and likely to be safe. As the HPV vaccine is employed more and more, I suspect it will have a good safety track record. My kids are grown, but I would probably wait a couple years before giving it to a younger child just to see how things go. My kids are immunized against all the childhood diseases, HBV (just in case they want to grow up to be drug addicts, I guess), and I wouldn't have it any other way. You still see the occasional kid who has encephalitis after chickenpox or measles because they weren't vaccinated. According to the CDC, the risk for serious complications is so low for most vaccines that it is difficult to tell in many cases whether the problem was actually caused by the vaccine.
http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/vis/default.htm
Vaccination has virtually wiped out polio, smallpox and childhood diseases in populations where vaccination is prevalent. Thank Jenner!
Ste5e
PS: The risk of getting the disease is at least as great as having a problem with the vaccine. I would feel like a total wooter if one of my kids had wound up brain-damaged because I failed to get them vaccinated.
274. Are the 'New Atheists' avoiding the 'real arguments'?
Comment #134414 by steveroot on February 27, 2008 at 6:37 pm
297. Comment #134409 by JuxtaMonkey on February 27, 2008 at 6:26 pm
STEVEROOT:
Yes, that's the easy part ;)
275. Feb 12th: Happy Darwin Day!
Comment #134113 by steveroot on February 27, 2008 at 9:14 am
448. Comment #134046 by Dr Benway on February 27, 2008 at 7:01 am
I think the idiom is "soothes the wild breast."
So the breast wranglers say, anyway.
276. Feb 12th: Happy Darwin Day!
Comment #134043 by steveroot on February 27, 2008 at 6:55 am
Richard (#444),
It is said that music soothes the wild beast. Will it work on wooter?
BTW, is that you channeling Jethro Burns? :-)
I met my wife at a mandolin lesson!
Ste5e
277. Are the 'New Atheists' avoiding the 'real arguments'?
Comment #133798 by steveroot on February 26, 2008 at 8:15 pm
289. Comment #132329 by JuxtaMonkey on February 24, 2008 at 3:46 pm
I'd prefer not study ABGs in nursing school...
278. Are the 'New Atheists' avoiding the 'real arguments'?
Comment #133797 by steveroot on February 26, 2008 at 8:02 pm
292. Comment #133790 by Goldy on February 26, 2008 at 7:36 pm
Steveroot, I have to ask....
5?
279. Are the 'New Atheists' avoiding the 'real arguments'?
Comment #133788 by steveroot on February 26, 2008 at 7:29 pm
254. Comment #131817 by Shrommer on February 23, 2008 at 11:31 am
I'm not talking about hundreds of eyewitness testimonies in agreement with Christianity. I am talking about hundreds of eyewitnesses in agreement that Jesus rose from the dead. There is a big difference. One is a religion; the other is a sensory experience.
280. 12 Year Old Girl Prodigy Paints Pictures of God
Comment #133781 by steveroot on February 26, 2008 at 7:09 pm
85. Comment #133762 by Goldy on February 26, 2008 at 5:44 pm
Why are christians so inarticulate and emotional?
"Hate" in capitals and exclamation marks a-plenty. There's more..
What, capital letters reserved only for your god? 14 (count them) exclamation marks. As for grammar....
281. Evidence can't shake your faith if your faith excludes it as evidence
Comment #133714 by steveroot on February 26, 2008 at 3:21 pm
215. Comment #133650 by al-rawandi on February 26, 2008 at 1:10 pm
"The Color from Out of Space" was not very good, I think it falls into your description.
282. Add another flea to the list...
Comment #133644 by steveroot on February 26, 2008 at 1:04 pm
304. Comment #133626 by Steve Zara on February 26, 2008 at 12:48 pm
This reminds me of an old joke... "do you want to see my Elvis impression?"
283. Evidence can't shake your faith if your faith excludes it as evidence
Comment #133638 by steveroot on February 26, 2008 at 12:58 pm
209. Comment #133623 by Geoff on February 26, 2008 at 12:47 pm
5:
Pinball Wizard?
284. Evidence can't shake your faith if your faith excludes it as evidence
Comment #133619 by steveroot on February 26, 2008 at 12:43 pm
Geoff is channeling the mature Cthulhu- the human-eating, tunnel-dwelling "scary" version. I am the sporting version. An eternity of smacking small, resilient spherical objects into holes is my only hang-up.
"5"
285. Evidence can't shake your faith if your faith excludes it as evidence
Comment #133605 by steveroot on February 26, 2008 at 12:30 pm
152. Comment #133027 by Quetzalcoatl on February 25, 2008 at 2:27 pm
Cthulhu is also welcome to join the pantheon. Then we could have a trinity- the winged serpent, the monkey and the squid-thing. Sounds like a winning combination.
Comment #133597 by steveroot on February 26, 2008 at 12:20 pm
69. Comment #133521 by Epinephrine on February 26, 2008 at 9:33 am
Isn't that just Russell's paradox?
287. Fleabytes
Comment #133522 by steveroot on February 26, 2008 at 9:34 am
1004. Comment #133075 by mikejswalker on February 25, 2008 at 3:10 pm
...But there are a couple of wincers where Bartlett says stuff like 'we can stretch out our fingers and touch the face of God'.
Comment #133450 by steveroot on February 26, 2008 at 7:48 am
56. Comment #133431 by The Reverend Dark on February 26, 2008 at 7:22 am
Nothing wrong with that; does she still take an interest in Saint Peter?
59. Comment #133445 by Steve Zara on February 26, 2008 at 7:40 am
Wooter:
I am an Englishman.
All Englishmen are liars.
Honest.
Comment #133417 by steveroot on February 26, 2008 at 7:12 am
53. Comment #133385 by Philip1978 on February 26, 2008 at 6:38 am
Wooter,
Your Parable of the Liar was lost on me, I didn't understand a word of it - could you possibly explain that one a bit better?
Comment #133410 by steveroot on February 26, 2008 at 7:05 am
45. Comment #133250 by wooter on February 26, 2008 at 1:24 am
Speaking of sarcasm, ( I am trying to be scientific and logical with you but when you push your luck, I would say you started it) let me share my sarcasm with you:
Comment #132795 by steveroot on February 25, 2008 at 8:02 am
29. Comment #132783 by wooter on February 25, 2008 at 7:50 am
3. God, as creator of time, is outside of time. Since therefore He has no beginning in time, He has always existed, so doesn't need a cause.
From Christian answers web page.
292. Evidence can't shake your faith if your faith excludes it as evidence
Comment #132459 by steveroot on February 24, 2008 at 7:22 pm
Badge,
Here it is:
http://www.sedhe.net/blog/archives/000434.html
"5"
293. Fleabytes
Comment #132386 by steveroot on February 24, 2008 at 5:22 pm
894. Comment #132379 by RickM on February 24, 2008 at 5:01 pm
I go back to IBM 1130 Assembler; back to the days of stepping through cycles, reading panel lights and setting switches.
294. Cutting Edge: Baby Bible Bashers
Comment #130538 by steveroot on February 20, 2008 at 7:44 pm
@dloubet:
It's a British thing, apparently,
5
295. Study: Religion colors Americans' views of nanotechnology
Comment #130508 by steveroot on February 20, 2008 at 6:20 pm
139. Comment #130503 by Bonzai on February 20, 2008 at 5:53 pm
what did you eat tonight?
Actually I eat a lot of processed food and I had bamboo shots in hot chilly oil out of a can on prepackaged noodles tonight.
296. Fleabytes
Comment #129950 by steveroot on February 19, 2008 at 8:01 pm
Very nicely done, Paula. You've come a long way from "Northern Bright"!
Thanks.
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297. Atheists An Increasingly Outspoken Minority
Comment #129651 by steveroot on February 19, 2008 at 12:27 pm
Re: #44 & #46...
Double Bass Atheist!
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298. Cutting Edge: Baby Bible Bashers
Comment #129558 by steveroot on February 19, 2008 at 9:59 am
I was prepared to be amused and mildly irritated. Instead, I found this painful and very disturbing. The parents/grandparents themselves made it plain that this is nothing but a scam, and these children suffer for it. If there were a god who gave a tinker's dam, there would be a stop to this abuse (no quotes!).
Five
299. Atheists An Increasingly Outspoken Minority
Comment #129545 by steveroot on February 19, 2008 at 9:35 am
45. Comment #129539 by al-rawandi on February 19, 2008 at 9:22 am
despair.com
anti-motivational posters.
300. Atheists An Increasingly Outspoken Minority
Comment #129536 by steveroot on February 19, 2008 at 9:18 am
As a man of faith, Bishop Hanson still has a key question for those who don't believe in God.
"Where do you place your trust in times of need? Where do you place your hope in the time of a crisis of confidence?" Hanson said.