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251. US Treaty with Tripoli

Comment #137756 by steveroot on March 3, 2008 at 12:47 pm

367. Comment #137737 by Goldy on March 3, 2008 at 12:19 pm
Would this treaty be valid today? Or when Gadafi was bombed?

What treaty? I thought we were talking guns here.
"Happiness is a warm gun...
Bang, Bang... Shoot, shoot"
;-)

Art. 11. As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquillity, of Mussulmen; and, as the said States never entered into any war, or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties, that no pretext arising from religious opinions, shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.


I don't think this bears on Iraq, Iran, Libya, etc., because they aren't "Mahometan" nations (what the heck *is* ;-) ). I wonder if one of George Bush's ancestors wrote that.
STe5e

252. The Salamander's Tale

Comment #137678 by steveroot on March 3, 2008 at 10:39 am

195. Comment #137674 by Jon_Sociologist on March 3, 2008 at 10:32 am

Might I suggest that personal attacks on wooter are counter-productive... And if there is even a fool's hope of convincing wooter, it will be even further reduced by referring to wooter by reference of unpleasant bodily functions.

It's true that the name-calling and abuse don't shore up an argument. However, as has been noted, when the debate has gotten stuck and one side just can't or won't participate, it's easy to slide into ad hom territory. Besides, some of those bodily functions are not unpleasant at all! Gotta go...
Ste5e

253. Darwin's dangerous idea

Comment #137282 by steveroot on March 2, 2008 at 3:43 pm

1. Comment #137249 by Deepthought on March 2, 2008 at 2:58 pm

I wonder what will happen to this statistic when my generation gets out of school? (I'm 14)

Don't give up! It's folks like you who give me hope.
Cheers!
Steve

254. Fleabytes

Comment #137267 by steveroot on March 2, 2008 at 3:22 pm

2751. Comment #137223 by tstinchcombe on March 2, 2008 at 2:25 pm

Indeed, I was watching a Bart Ehrman video just the other day (I think it may have been linked from this site somewhere), in which he says there are something like 50,000 sources for the bible (can't remember exact detail, but it was definitely 10's of thousands, and it may have been just the NT, not the whole), and he really laboured the 'copy of a copy of a copy' point.

My source (father-in-law, Fred Stitt, http://www.paragonhouse.com/catalog/default.php?authors_id=255) told me there are about as many different versions of the New Testament (in Greek, as I remember) as there are *words* in the New Testament. All hand-copied... the opportunities for error are phenomenal.

One of Fred's points in his books (there's another one entitled, Myths, Dreams, and Theology in Early Christianity is that, while many of the stories in the bible are demonstrably (within the limits of current biblical scholarship) not actually true, they are not necessarily without significance. For example, the story of the exodus and wandering for 40 years in the wilderness has no archeological or other corroborative evidence to support its historical truth. However, it is a story that tells of the needs of people to be free and to have a safe home. So the story can have meaning without being true; there's probably no harm in that. It's the other nasty, controlling bits that cause trouble when folks ('tards) think they are true.
Ste5e

255. Fleabytes

Comment #137206 by steveroot on March 2, 2008 at 2:08 pm

2733. Comment #137191 by tstinchcombe on March 2, 2008 at 1:47 pm
So every single time it was passed on (possibly orally as well as written), translated from one language to another, and copied many, many times, the scribes never once made a mistake, ever, because 'God was looking on'?

As you undoubtedly know, there is *ample* scholarly evidence that the bible was assembled from oral and written traditions dating back to centuries BCE. There is also equally good evidence that some later writers had access to earlier writers' works and that others were unaware of previous writings. There are numerous examples of scribes making transcription errors or even altering ("redacting") passages in both the old and new testaments. My father-in-law is a biblical scholar and has published two books on these subjects which, though I've read them, I cannot quote from memory (I am *not* a biblical scholar). I suspect you and many others here have seen this evidence in other places (references on request).

BTW, Tim, are you related to a David who graduated from ETHS in 1968? Just curious!
Sye5e

256. US Treaty with Tripoli

Comment #136703 by steveroot on March 1, 2008 at 3:34 pm

228. Comment #136472 by Frankus1122 on March 1, 2008 at 9:26 am

I do see cars as a problem. I believe that a method of transportation could be designed that allows for greater personal mobility while decreasing the harm caused.

It's called "the bicycle". I'm serious.
245. Comment #136534 by SPS on March 1, 2008 at 11:23 am

I can see there are some situations when use of force is morally justified, even by firearm.

I'm going to leave that to the proper authorities.
223. Comment #136467 by scooternyc on March 1, 2008 at 9:12 am

Finally, someone with reason and logic along with the advance of personal freedom.

I think I detect a note of sarcasm. No matter. A person can do as much damage with a car as a handgun, but many gun enthusiasts are not in favor of registration or other "infringements" on their "2nd amendment liberties".

All the same, I won't be joining this particular club.

So... what ever happened to "the U.S. is a christian nation"?
Ste5e

257. Fleabytes

Comment #136695 by steveroot on March 1, 2008 at 3:19 pm

2524. Comment #136691 by Geoff on March 1, 2008 at 3:12 pm

Paula: your 'click on "GOD HIMSELF"' comment; coffee>nose>keyboard. Again!

Make mine diet coke!
Does this make "GOD HIMSELF" a troll or just a fig newton of someone's imagination?
Ste5e

258. US Treaty with Tripoli

Comment #136463 by steveroot on March 1, 2008 at 9:06 am

You're welcome, Scooter. I couldn't resist.

As far as I'm concerned, if you want to carry a gun that's fine with me, as long as:
1) the gun is registered.
2) you know how to use it.
3) you accept responsibility for what you do with it.
4) hopefully you are immune to "crimes of passion".

I actually think there's something "not quite right" with people who want to carry deadly force, but if it makes you feel better, I'm happy for you. But if you shoot me, one of my family members or anyone else who is not armed, you will have quite a lot of 'splaining to do.
Ste5e

259. US Treaty with Tripoli

Comment #136452 by steveroot on March 1, 2008 at 8:56 am

203. Comment #136446 by Cartomancer on March 1, 2008 at 8:43 am
And winner of the 2008 Charlton Heston Award for Self-aggrandizing Macho Posturing is...

... wooternyc?
;-)
Ste5e

260. US Treaty with Tripoli

Comment #136439 by steveroot on March 1, 2008 at 7:47 am

Wow! I sleep for a few hours and this thread has gone from "christian-nation-or-not-zephyr" to "second-amendment-hurricane".

This "to carry or not to carry" question is big in Illinois right now because of the recent shootings at NIU. One wonders: how many fewer students would have been killed or injured if there had been a fire-fight in that lecture hall?

Here is my position: I don't want "concealed carry" laws where I live, but even in the event that such laws are passed, I *will not* be carrying a weapon. If someone shoots me, so be it, but they will be shooting an un-armed person. I regard the risk of this happening as very small, but I will not participate in this personal arms race. Full stop.
Ste5e

261. Fleabytes

Comment #136208 by steveroot on February 29, 2008 at 2:18 pm

2101. Comment #135910 by hello on February 29, 2008 at 10:48 am

That person will also drink of the wine of God's anger

Which person?

"If anyone worships the beast and his image and receives his mark on the forehead or on the hand, 10he, too, will drink of the wine of God's fury, which has been poured full strength into the cup of his wrath."

The context is important.

It's from this web site:
http://www.bible.org/page.php?page_id=400
under "3) Key Passages about Hell"
Revelation 14:10

The contest is only important if you believe this crap. I don't. It's the kind of bullying foolishness that a bronze-age camel driver would think up, and it boggles my mind that anyone in the 21st century gives it a toss.
STe5e

262. Fleabytes

Comment #135905 by steveroot on February 29, 2008 at 10:43 am

Revelation 14:10
That person will also drink of the wine of God's anger that has been mixed undiluted in the cup of his wrath, and he will be tortured with fire and sulfur in front of the holy angels and in front of the Lamb.

I like a good drink (quite a "nose" on that vintage) before I go out waterskiing on the Lake o' Fire. I like the *loving* god to see me enjoying myself! :-)
Ste5e

263. Fleabytes

Comment #135885 by steveroot on February 29, 2008 at 10:19 am

2057. Comment #135859 by al-rawandi on February 29, 2008 at 9:52 am

Who deifed gravity? You did.

Don't make bad puns like this, please: you will confuse the wooters.

2067. Comment #135871 by hello on February 29, 2008 at 10:06 am

It is operating within the possible parameters of gravity.

Well, that is the same as knowing God. You don't have to have anything to do with him if you don't want. He doesn't stop you. You can choose.

Sounds as if your god is the same as the rules the natural world operates by. I have no problem with that, but that sort of god doesn't require (or respond to) worship or prayer. Refer to The Reverend Dark's comment above concerning defying gravity under godly supervision.

2075. Comment #135880 by The Reverend Dark on February 29, 2008 at 10:14 am

I am curious on how you manage to type, even your short message, with your head so far up your own arse that you could lick your appendix.

Good thing I was between bites when I read this or I would have had to have a Heimlich maneuver inflicted on me! But surely one in your clerical position should understand how it is possible...
wait for it... DIVINE GUIDANCE!!
Steve

264. Earth's Final Sunset Predicted

Comment #135209 by steveroot on February 28, 2008 at 5:50 pm

19. Comment #135184 by ianmkz on February 28, 2008 at 4:55 pm

Earth's Final Sunset Predicted


Can the term sunset really be applied to the Earth? It may be sunset in Hawaii, but it's never sunset on the Earth.

When the *sunset* on the earth, it smash that sucker flat! ;-)
Ste5e

265. Fleabytes

Comment #134861 by steveroot on February 28, 2008 at 9:14 am

To the tune of "The Church's One Foundation"
(http://www.oremus.org/hymnal/t/t093.html)

I heard Bryan Bowers sing this in the early 1970s:

"The dogs they had a party, they came from near and far;
And some dogs came by taxi and some dogs came by car;
And each dog wrote his na-ame all in a little book;
And each dog hung his asshole upon a separate hook.

"One dog was not invited, and this aroused his ire;
He stormed into the party and loudly shouted "FIRE!"
The dogs were so excited they did not stop to look,
but grabbed the nearest asshole from off the nearest hook.

"This is a most sad story, for it is very sore
to wear another's asshole you've never worn before;
And that is why, when dogs meet, on land or air or foam,
They sniff each other's asshole in hopes it is their own."

Try singing it!
Ste5e

266. Fleabytes

Comment #134842 by steveroot on February 28, 2008 at 9:01 am

Anna and Quetz:
Beat my Loch Ness Monster!
Ha!
Ste5e

267. Fleabytes

Comment #134819 by steveroot on February 28, 2008 at 8:29 am

1494. Comment #134811 by epeeist on February 28, 2008 at 8:25 am

I thought that was the point of the operation ;-)

No, I think the objective is to be (or appear or feel) UN-fucked! :lol:
Ste5e

PS: Thanks, Steve and Quetz. Sounds like that beetle has evolved a skill I've possessed for years!

268. Fleabytes

Comment #134808 by steveroot on February 28, 2008 at 8:22 am

1487. Comment #134804 by Tyler Durden on February 28, 2008 at 8:17 am
avatar

What does hymen restoration surgery do?

It restores virginity...

Exsqueeze me?

We know what they mean is "it restores the *appearance* of virginity" (the feel? We won't go there). Another form of delusion ("that it exists", "that it matters"... your choice).

Steve: I'll bite... why?
Ste5e

269. Fleabytes

Comment #134802 by steveroot on February 28, 2008 at 8:15 am

1483. Comment #134799 by phasmagigas on February 28, 2008 at 8:13 am
...each is as exquisite as the next, well save the latter!!!

Speak for yourself!! :-)
Ste5e

270. Fleabytes

Comment #134795 by steveroot on February 28, 2008 at 8:11 am

1475. Comment #134791 by annabanana on February 28, 2008 at 8:07 am

I'll see your badger, voles, and stoat and raise you a lemming.

And don't forget:
When life hands you a lemming,
put it in a blender! :-)
Ste5e

271. Fleabytes

Comment #134793 by steveroot on February 28, 2008 at 8:08 am

1404. Comment #134674 by epeeist on February 28, 2008 at 5:01 am

I wonder if Mary went to an iron age equivalent of these people - http://www.affordableplasticcosmeticsurgeryincolombia.com/Hymen-Restoration-Vaginal-Virgin.php


I copied the following from that site:
What does hymen restoration surgery do? |

* It restores virginity after the hymen has been ruptured. It can be performed soon after the rupture or much later. The hymen may rupture during rape, agreed intercourse, insertion of tampons, sports, falls, etc.
* If the hymeneal remnants are not big enough to be used for the reconstruction or if you a woman who were born without a hymen, the surgeon can reduce the opening of the vagina using a small portion of the vaginal mucous tissue. During the first intercourse, there will be a small rupture of this newly reconstructed hymen that will be very similar to the rupture of a natural hymen.

I'm sorry. That is just fucked up.
Ste5e

272. Feb 12th: Happy Darwin Day!

Comment #134779 by steveroot on February 28, 2008 at 7:49 am

515. Comment #134774 by Steve Zara on February 28, 2008 at 7:41 am

With respect, I suspect that is not Epinephrine's attitude. There are rational concerns - mistaken in my view - and they need to be dealt with.

Not *completely* mistaken... there is a very small risk anytime you mess with someone's immune system. But the risk of getting the disease, in this case cervical cancer, is greater (or will probably be shown by studies not yet completed to be greater) than the risk from the vaccination. Life cannot be made risk-free, even by god, by god!
Ste5e

273. Feb 12th: Happy Darwin Day!

Comment #134764 by steveroot on February 28, 2008 at 7:31 am

As a dentist, I have been vaccinated against hepatitis B. When the vaccine first came out, it was made from the pooled plasma of human donors. I declined this vaccine because of a small but potentially real risk of HIV transmission. I was probably being unnecessarily cautious but as it turned out a recombinant-DNA vaccine made in yeast became available soon afterwards, and I jumped on it.

I'm a believer (!) in vaccination because, as Steve pointed out, they are generally well-tested and likely to be safe. As the HPV vaccine is employed more and more, I suspect it will have a good safety track record. My kids are grown, but I would probably wait a couple years before giving it to a younger child just to see how things go. My kids are immunized against all the childhood diseases, HBV (just in case they want to grow up to be drug addicts, I guess), and I wouldn't have it any other way. You still see the occasional kid who has encephalitis after chickenpox or measles because they weren't vaccinated. According to the CDC, the risk for serious complications is so low for most vaccines that it is difficult to tell in many cases whether the problem was actually caused by the vaccine.
http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/vis/default.htm

Vaccination has virtually wiped out polio, smallpox and childhood diseases in populations where vaccination is prevalent. Thank Jenner!
Ste5e

PS: The risk of getting the disease is at least as great as having a problem with the vaccine. I would feel like a total wooter if one of my kids had wound up brain-damaged because I failed to get them vaccinated.

274. Are the 'New Atheists' avoiding the 'real arguments'?

Comment #134414 by steveroot on February 27, 2008 at 6:37 pm

297. Comment #134409 by JuxtaMonkey on February 27, 2008 at 6:26 pm
STEVEROOT:

Yes, that's the easy part ;)

OK, now drop and give me 20 Henderson-Hasselbach calculations!

I was a medical technologist for some years before I got into root canals. :-)
Ste5e

275. Feb 12th: Happy Darwin Day!

Comment #134113 by steveroot on February 27, 2008 at 9:14 am

448. Comment #134046 by Dr Benway on February 27, 2008 at 7:01 am

I think the idiom is "soothes the wild breast."

So the breast wranglers say, anyway.

Make the breast of a bad situation, I always say!
Ste5e

276. Feb 12th: Happy Darwin Day!

Comment #134043 by steveroot on February 27, 2008 at 6:55 am

Richard (#444),
It is said that music soothes the wild beast. Will it work on wooter?

BTW, is that you channeling Jethro Burns? :-)
I met my wife at a mandolin lesson!
Ste5e

277. Are the 'New Atheists' avoiding the 'real arguments'?

Comment #133798 by steveroot on February 26, 2008 at 8:15 pm

289. Comment #132329 by JuxtaMonkey on February 24, 2008 at 3:46 pm
I'd prefer not study ABGs in nursing school...

Arterial Blood Gases?
PO2, PCO2, pH, etc.
Ste5e

278. Are the 'New Atheists' avoiding the 'real arguments'?

Comment #133797 by steveroot on February 26, 2008 at 8:02 pm

292. Comment #133790 by Goldy on February 26, 2008 at 7:36 pm
Steveroot, I have to ask....
5?

It's an old nickname I thought might help to distinguish myself from other Steves. :-)
5
PS: "incoming!"

279. Are the 'New Atheists' avoiding the 'real arguments'?

Comment #133788 by steveroot on February 26, 2008 at 7:29 pm

254. Comment #131817 by Shrommer on February 23, 2008 at 11:31 am
I'm not talking about hundreds of eyewitness testimonies in agreement with Christianity. I am talking about hundreds of eyewitnesses in agreement that Jesus rose from the dead. There is a big difference. One is a religion; the other is a sensory experience.

Amazing the sensory experiences you can have when you're smokin' those 'shrooms. Almost religious.
5

280. 12 Year Old Girl Prodigy Paints Pictures of God

Comment #133781 by steveroot on February 26, 2008 at 7:09 pm

85. Comment #133762 by Goldy on February 26, 2008 at 5:44 pm
Why are christians so inarticulate and emotional?

"Hate" in capitals and exclamation marks a-plenty. There's more..

What, capital letters reserved only for your god? 14 (count them) exclamation marks. As for grammar....

I hear Liberty University is looking for applicants...
"5"

281. Evidence can't shake your faith if your faith excludes it as evidence

Comment #133714 by steveroot on February 26, 2008 at 3:21 pm

215. Comment #133650 by al-rawandi on February 26, 2008 at 1:10 pm

"The Color from Out of Space" was not very good, I think it falls into your description.

It's "The Colour out of Space". I remember liking it in high school, when several of my buddies and I would meet in someone's basement and discuss Lovecraft's stories in the dark. "The Dream Quest of Unknown Kadath" was another of my favorites:

"And vast infinities away, past the Gate of Deeper Slumber and the enchanted wood and the garden lands and the Cerenarian Sea and the twilight reaches of Inquanok, the crawling chaos Nyarlathotep strode brooding into the onyx castle atop unknown Kadath in the cold waste, and taunted insolently the mild gods of earth whom he had snatched abruptly from their scented revels in the marvellous sunset city."
(from http://www.dagonbytes.com/thelibrary/lovecraft/)
5

282. Add another flea to the list...

Comment #133644 by steveroot on February 26, 2008 at 1:04 pm

304. Comment #133626 by Steve Zara on February 26, 2008 at 12:48 pm

This reminds me of an old joke... "do you want to see my Elvis impression?"

You are truly sick, and I mean that in the most complimentary way, Steve!
"5"

283. Evidence can't shake your faith if your faith excludes it as evidence

Comment #133638 by steveroot on February 26, 2008 at 12:58 pm

209. Comment #133623 by Geoff on February 26, 2008 at 12:47 pm
5:
Pinball Wizard?

Do I look like I'm playing *pinball*?? I guess steel balls are resilient, but not like my gutta-percha spheroids.

Well, back to the last 9...
"5"

284. Evidence can't shake your faith if your faith excludes it as evidence

Comment #133619 by steveroot on February 26, 2008 at 12:43 pm

Geoff is channeling the mature Cthulhu- the human-eating, tunnel-dwelling "scary" version. I am the sporting version. An eternity of smacking small, resilient spherical objects into holes is my only hang-up.
"5"

285. Evidence can't shake your faith if your faith excludes it as evidence

Comment #133605 by steveroot on February 26, 2008 at 12:30 pm

152. Comment #133027 by Quetzalcoatl on February 25, 2008 at 2:27 pm

Cthulhu is also welcome to join the pantheon. Then we could have a trinity- the winged serpent, the monkey and the squid-thing. Sounds like a winning combination.

About time you noticed me. I don't want to rock the boat by making extravagant demands (for human sacrifice, etc.); I just like to be able to play through. :-)
"5" (aka: "tentacles")

286. The Salamander's Tale

Comment #133597 by steveroot on February 26, 2008 at 12:20 pm

69. Comment #133521 by Epinephrine on February 26, 2008 at 9:33 am

Isn't that just Russell's paradox?

You're using the word, "just", in a new and unfamiliar way! :-)

Russell formalized the ancient "Liar's paradox", seen ad nauseum in several previous posts.
Steve

287. Fleabytes

Comment #133522 by steveroot on February 26, 2008 at 9:34 am

1004. Comment #133075 by mikejswalker on February 25, 2008 at 3:10 pm
...But there are a couple of wincers where Bartlett says stuff like 'we can stretch out our fingers and touch the face of God'.

That line is from a famous aviation poem called "High Flight", by John Gillespie Magee, Jr. President Reagan used it after the Challenger shuttle accident. (Did he attribute it to its author? People these days seem concerned about politicians plagiarizing their speeches...)

The poem is here:
http://www.skygod.com/quotes/highflight.html
I've always found it quite moving even with the reference to touching the ol' guy's face, which I take metaphorically somehow.
Steve

288. The Salamander's Tale

Comment #133450 by steveroot on February 26, 2008 at 7:48 am

56. Comment #133431 by The Reverend Dark on February 26, 2008 at 7:22 am

Nothing wrong with that; does she still take an interest in Saint Peter?

Well, there won't be much bishop bashing around *that* household!
59. Comment #133445 by Steve Zara on February 26, 2008 at 7:40 am

Wooter:
I am an Englishman.
All Englishmen are liars.
Honest.

Now, Steve, I was first! :-)
BTW,
"This statement is false" :lol:
Or...

The sign in the dentist's window reads:
"I clean all those people's teeth in this town who do not clean their own teeth"
So who cleans the dentist's teeth?


Or to quote James T. Kirk,
"Nomad (Wooter), everything I say is a lie!" :-O
"5"

289. The Salamander's Tale

Comment #133417 by steveroot on February 26, 2008 at 7:12 am

53. Comment #133385 by Philip1978 on February 26, 2008 at 6:38 am

Wooter,
Your Parable of the Liar was lost on me, I didn't understand a word of it - could you possibly explain that one a bit better?

Here's a better one:

Plato: "Socrates is a dirty liar."
Socrates: "Plato, for once you're telling the truth."

{takes cover, waits for wooter's head to explode}
Steve

290. The Salamander's Tale

Comment #133410 by steveroot on February 26, 2008 at 7:05 am

45. Comment #133250 by wooter on February 26, 2008 at 1:24 am

Speaking of sarcasm, ( I am trying to be scientific and logical with you but when you push your luck, I would say you started it) let me share my sarcasm with you:

If that's the best you can do for sarcasm, I would hang it up, mate. Around here, people need to wear kevlar vests for protection. Your "sarcasm" wouldn't get through wet kleenex.

Dude, you really need to read some books... meaning *non-fiction*.
Steve

291. The Salamander's Tale

Comment #132795 by steveroot on February 25, 2008 at 8:02 am

29. Comment #132783 by wooter on February 25, 2008 at 7:50 am

3. God, as creator of time, is outside of time. Since therefore He has no beginning in time, He has always existed, so doesn't need a cause.
From Christian answers web page.

He's been around "always", but apparently got bored with bashing the bishop so created everything a few thousand years ago. Makes sense. Sign me up.
{/sarcasm}
Steve

293. Fleabytes

Comment #132386 by steveroot on February 24, 2008 at 5:22 pm

894. Comment #132379 by RickM on February 24, 2008 at 5:01 pm

I go back to IBM 1130 Assembler; back to the days of stepping through cycles, reading panel lights and setting switches.

Oh, yeah? well, I go back to a single-pole single-throw knife switch!

And my Latin is fine:

O sibili si ergo
Fortibus es inero;
Nobili demis trux.
Sewatis inem?
Cowsendux.


V (Roman Numeral)

295. Study: Religion colors Americans' views of nanotechnology

Comment #130508 by steveroot on February 20, 2008 at 6:20 pm

139. Comment #130503 by Bonzai on February 20, 2008 at 5:53 pm

what did you eat tonight?

Actually I eat a lot of processed food and I had bamboo shots in hot chilly oil out of a can on prepackaged noodles tonight.

I've heard of "jello shots", but what is a "bamboo shot"? Sounds healthy! :-) Then there's that "hot chilly" oil... oxymormon?
Steve
PS: http://www.wikihow.com/Make-Jello-Shots

296. Fleabytes

Comment #129950 by steveroot on February 19, 2008 at 8:01 pm

Very nicely done, Paula. You've come a long way from "Northern Bright"!
Thanks.
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298. Cutting Edge: Baby Bible Bashers

Comment #129558 by steveroot on February 19, 2008 at 9:59 am

I was prepared to be amused and mildly irritated. Instead, I found this painful and very disturbing. The parents/grandparents themselves made it plain that this is nothing but a scam, and these children suffer for it. If there were a god who gave a tinker's dam, there would be a stop to this abuse (no quotes!).
Five

299. Atheists An Increasingly Outspoken Minority

Comment #129545 by steveroot on February 19, 2008 at 9:35 am

45. Comment #129539 by al-rawandi on February 19, 2008 at 9:22 am

despair.com

anti-motivational posters.

Like I said, "Demotivators"! ;-)

The one about prayer isn't listed; I wonder if it's a custom job:

http://diy.despair.com/motivator.php
Five

300. Atheists An Increasingly Outspoken Minority

Comment #129536 by steveroot on February 19, 2008 at 9:18 am

As a man of faith, Bishop Hanson still has a key question for those who don't believe in God.

"Where do you place your trust in times of need? Where do you place your hope in the time of a crisis of confidence?" Hanson said.


This reminds me of the "Demotivators" poster someone here uses as an avatar:
"Prayer- how to do nothing and still think you're helping"
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