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401. Open Letter to a victim of Ben Stein's lying propaganda

Comment #173736 by MaxD on May 1, 2008 at 7:31 am

Having just read Richard's post in full, I'm kind of, what's the word, flabbergasted. Ugh.

He speaks in that fluffy speak of the born again, and I just kept thinking, this poor guy has done this all before. Multiple times I think. He tries on faith, can't do it. Leaves to join the ranks of the rational, can't stand the "herd of cats" condition leaves and on and on. And in such, sorry to say it, annoyingly dramatic fashion. Rapid too, or at least seemingly so. He could of course say, "He was thinking this way the for awhile, but he has conveniantly removed all the trace evidence of his attitudes and ideas, many of which would have been largely indistinguishable from any other poster here.
But all that has been removed, and I have to agree with Al-rawandi who described that act as cowardly.

And Richard as a guy with some artistic sensiblities, don't you think your myspace friend with the wierd Christian "art" is just the tiniest bit off her rocker? Isn't your sense of the rational thrown by such images and attitudes? And what about your sense of justice?
It is all just a bit bizarre.

402. Open Letter to a victim of Ben Stein's lying propaganda

Comment #173727 by MaxD on May 1, 2008 at 7:20 am

"The Big Bang in my Heart?"

403. Open Letter to a victim of Ben Stein's lying propaganda

Comment #173096 by MaxD on April 30, 2008 at 10:33 am

Al
It is a strange situation. I went to the myspacemusic page, and saw this on his comments chatter.

I am so proud of your decision. It will be the only eternal one that counts!

This was written by some chick named redeemer53.
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=133718605
I then puttered over to her page and almost retched. For some reason I found the picture of the crying fireman with the angel on his shoulder the most offensive on the page. Though there is a disgusting one where Jesus is taking a big hit of someone else's heroin. Okay that one is actually pretty funny. There is another one that looks like Jesus is doing a bump and grind with some prostitute (I'm sure I am mis-interpreting the meaning of that.)
Check it out.

404. Open Letter to a victim of Ben Stein's lying propaganda

Comment #173080 by MaxD on April 30, 2008 at 10:12 am

Al, Quetz, are you guys refering to the TruthID posts? OR the latest by Richard Morgan?

405. Girl, 17, killed in Iraq for loving a British soldier

Comment #172685 by MaxD on April 29, 2008 at 10:21 pm

Al-rawandi said of Kyrie:

She has completely swung and missed at some of your points, and uses them as a jumping off point for these "black helicopter" rants of which she is so fond.


This is, of course, an example of the old saying,
"Truer words were never spoken." I just keep shaking my head after each of Kyrie's posts.
What is this person trying to say?

Kyrie why do you think it good for a 14 yr old to be married, and sexually active? Do you think a 14 yr old is terribly mature? Ready to make life altering decisions? And do you think the nature of the relationships is equal when the men involved are vastly older? Kids want to please, and religiously brainwashed kids want to please even more than that. Perhaps a better case could be made for the 16 and 17 year olds. But you have yet to make a case for what you are saying. This case has all the marks of sexual exploitation.

406. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #172284 by MaxD on April 29, 2008 at 12:37 pm

Annabanana! did you just send me to the back of the line?
:(

407. Girl, 17, killed in Iraq for loving a British soldier

Comment #172280 by MaxD on April 29, 2008 at 12:25 pm

Kyrie!

Say your son was hanging out at a place that routinely had oldermen taking impressionable girls"

Sounds like my old highschool.

"or at the very least get him into future trouble for statutory rape?"

So it's ok for a girl of age to be duped and broken hearted, as long as the guy doesn't get in any trouble he may be forced to be accountable for.


You mangled my words abit and then proceeded to make no sense. To the first part I'd ask you why? To the second I'd ask you to try to actually respond to what I said.

408. How to reconcile Richard Dawkins?

Comment #172253 by MaxD on April 29, 2008 at 11:46 am

Off topic, but I just watched a lego animation of Eddie Izzard's "Death Star Canteena." Its izzard doing the routine but the lego star wars figures doing the skit. Here is the link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sv5iEK-IEzw
Enjoy.

409. Girl, 17, killed in Iraq for loving a British soldier

Comment #172248 by MaxD on April 29, 2008 at 11:40 am

Al-rawandi, Will,
It is the dumbest thing I've heard in awhile, this, why were the boys removed sillyness. This is a strange ax of Kyrie Eleison to be grinding. It doesn't feel immediately sequiter.

410. Girl, 17, killed in Iraq for loving a British soldier

Comment #172245 by MaxD on April 29, 2008 at 11:35 am

MPhil, MitchellGilks,
I think there is a difference between what you guys have just said and the febrile ravings of the anti-war movement. I think war is bad, ugly, and horrible. I am not pro-war either. I am against being reactionary and I think that both extremes of thought are not good for level head appraisal of situations as they are.

411. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #172238 by MaxD on April 29, 2008 at 11:23 am

Karda,
You may have covered this too. But why would God be talking to you? That is isn't intended to be a slam. But why not someone else? More, oh I don't know, important?

412. Girl, 17, killed in Iraq for loving a British soldier

Comment #172208 by MaxD on April 29, 2008 at 10:44 am

ZekeCDN,
And I was having so much respect for you! That isn't a dog! Thats noise covered with fur! No I am not biased in favor of bigger canines. I resent the accusation. Now the rottweiler.....
Just kidding, cute puppy.

413. Girl, 17, killed in Iraq for loving a British soldier

Comment #172205 by MaxD on April 29, 2008 at 10:41 am

Will do.

414. Girl, 17, killed in Iraq for loving a British soldier

Comment #172203 by MaxD on April 29, 2008 at 10:39 am

Al-rawandi,
I think I might have been guilty once of calling ascribing your sensibilities as anti-war, I've long thougth I was wrong about that. If I didn't mention it well now you know.

So to say I am anti-war is unfair. I am against lies. The lies that led to Gulf War One and the ones that led to this invasion. That sours people on what may turn out to be a noble cause.


This is the rub isn't it? The problem of dishonesty in leading us into war, and conflict causes in a people a deep sense of distrust. I have heard Hitch talk on this point and I agree with him. He thinks, as do I, and perhaps as do you there was a time to make the proper case for war to the public. This is what should have happened, the resort to unbased fears now has put the US public a mindset of opposition to the goverment versions of events. I felt burned by the obfuscations. This will make it hard to make a case for future military actions that might be just.
My two cents anyway.

415. Girl, 17, killed in Iraq for loving a British soldier

Comment #172193 by MaxD on April 29, 2008 at 10:26 am

Al-rawandi,
I understand. It can be hard to keep it straight with multiple posters addressing you.
I myself am agnostic on the issue, though starting to lean toward sanctions wrong-time, perhaps wrong place, and not selective enough.

Anyway it is a touchy, emotional subject that even though most of us feel strongly about, I would caution us to guard against getting emotional. Not saying you were. What I liked about the Welsh article was that it was advising caution and looking as deeply at the issue as we can. I think this will better help everyone actually hear each other's good points, both for and against.
I learn a great deal from you Al, but not everyone can look past the hammer you some times deliever your thoughts on!

Oh, I've got a killer bench press routine i can send to you sometime if you want. I've had huge success with it. I was adding like 15 pounds to my max every seven weeks with it. Let me know. If there is a God this bench plan would be the only reliable evidence thereof.

416. Girl, 17, killed in Iraq for loving a British soldier

Comment #172182 by MaxD on April 29, 2008 at 10:16 am

Kyrie,
Say your son was hanging out at a place that routinely had oldermen taking impressionable girls out and banging themsenseless and you found out about it. Even if someone came and said listen guys we can't let any twelve year old girls come here anymore, would you think it was okay for your son to continue to hang out there? Isn't it an environment that would contribute to his delinquency, or at the very least get him into future trouble for statutory rape? The boys were removed because it was an unhealthy environment.

Now if you are going to make the case that it is okay for aged men to be banging away at young girls then you are going to have to get to it. This I want to hear. I

It seems to me though that if the authorities have serious reason to believe there is abuse of female children in the compound, they, along with CPS would be derilict in their duties if they left the boys there.

Can CPS overreact? Surely they can. But that is why oversite must be stringent because they do weild alot of power. But you aren't making a case.

417. Girl, 17, killed in Iraq for loving a British soldier

Comment #172175 by MaxD on April 29, 2008 at 10:02 am

Al-rawandi,
love ya man, but I do wish you would stop bullying people in these arguments about Iraq. ZekeCDN had said nothing inflamatory, he just had thoughts different from yours on the issue. Saying,

Your argument is fundamentally immoral. What should Iraqis have done to stop the sanctions? They were sold out after Gulf War One trying to overthrow Saddam. The US allowed him to use helicopter gunships to put down any revolts to remove him. Then the US sanctioned the people. The fact that they refused shipments of baby food, only proves it was genocide.

Your argument is not only immoral it is way underdeveloped, and pathetic


I actually read the piece that ZekeCDN posted and it wasn't vile or pro war or anything but it did warn against hysterics. I would suggest you read it too. Calling ZekeCDN, who seems to agree with you on the main, "no to war in Iraq" immoral seems unwarranted in the extreme. It makes it hard for people see your arguments about the sanctions when you start insulting people who are just as moral as you. Maybe they are uninformed, or maybe you are wrong. It does nothing for a discussion among moreor less likeminded people.
At least I don't think it does.

418. Girl, 17, killed in Iraq for loving a British soldier

Comment #172171 by MaxD on April 29, 2008 at 9:50 am

ZekeCDN,
Just read the article you linked for Bonzai.
Thanks. It was informative and underscores what I think the problem with the whole debate is.

419. Girl, 17, killed in Iraq for loving a British soldier

Comment #171815 by MaxD on April 28, 2008 at 9:16 pm

Bonzai,
I could have gone farther with my critique I suppose!

420. Girl, 17, killed in Iraq for loving a British soldier

Comment #171810 by MaxD on April 28, 2008 at 9:08 pm

Kyrie,
I didn't see the request. Sorry, what was the link you wanted me to provide?

No I don't think removing kids from a place where they are being abused is bad. But I do think sometimes CPSes can over react. It tends to go in cycles. They try to bend over backwards to help parents get their acts together, or give parents the benefit of the doubt. However this approach can get kids killed, then bad press ensues, so they get a little more heavy handed than sometimes is warranted. Bad press for this, then it is back to bending over backwards for parents. And then...well you get the idea.

421. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #171799 by MaxD on April 28, 2008 at 8:49 pm

el heffee,
Dawkins was describing the only way he could see ID working, not what he particularly thought about matters. He was saying the intelligence would likely be an extraterestrial intelligence of natural origins, and would seem to have provided only the conditions for abiogenises. That is all he was saying. Perhaps you might watch or read more carefully what was being said.

422. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #171796 by MaxD on April 28, 2008 at 8:45 pm

Bonzai,
I wouldn't argue with you on the Zeus God comparisson as I think you are right. In fact I prefer at least two other characters from myth to the Abrahamic one.
Odin and Zeus, but especially for my money Odin, rock harder than Yaweh.
I was just marveling at the dissonance required to see the flaws of one, and not see the beam in their own eye and all that.

423. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #171790 by MaxD on April 28, 2008 at 8:39 pm

Irate,

That has to be part of it doesn't it.

424. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #171778 by MaxD on April 28, 2008 at 8:11 pm

Elli! (5470. Comment #171440)
Thanks for the clarifying a bit. I am in totally in agreement with you that there are far larger issues to be addressed, but I was just curious as it came up in my discussion with Mellisajoy.

I am constantly baffled by our christian visitors and their inability to see even how we might interpret God as kind of a grade A jerk. I mean when they read Zeus myths do you suppose they fail to demur on his character? Doubtless they have some choice and spot on criticisms of the deity. No doubt the fact they don't believe in Zeus gives them a different perspective and they feel no need to defend his particular heinous/immoral actions.

425. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #171754 by MaxD on April 28, 2008 at 7:22 pm

Mphil you had better hope your bike gets a good mpg or you will never hear the end of it from Teratornis!

It is sweet. I've longed for a bike for years.
I have to say, I've never understood the prejudice against the crotch-rocket either, except they get driven by a lot of morons in my neck of the woods.

426. Girl, 17, killed in Iraq for loving a British soldier

Comment #171745 by MaxD on April 28, 2008 at 6:43 pm

Kyrie Elesioun!
I have to say this,

Is the pot not calling the kettle black here. We don't kill women for having relationships our government doesn't approve of: Never! We just take their children for these violations.

"Hitting" will get a spouse arrested. Adultery and infecting one's spouse with STDs and emotionally tramatizing them for life is fine. But polygamy is only tolerated when it is either "serial" or done in secret.

was exceptionally use....less.

427. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #171403 by MaxD on April 28, 2008 at 1:24 pm

Elli,
Maybe you can help me out. In the hebrew does it say "let us make man in our own image?" or something like that?
I was talking to someone the other day and it didn't seem to me that the old testament supported the idea of the trinity very much.
Any thoughts?
Thanks
Max

428. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #171367 by MaxD on April 28, 2008 at 1:06 pm

Frankus,
Now you are just being naughty.

429. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #171366 by MaxD on April 28, 2008 at 1:04 pm

I think Elli has got to the heart of the issue quite nicely.

430. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #171363 by MaxD on April 28, 2008 at 1:02 pm

I can't speak for why anyone would burn a flag. i never have. If I did though the symbolism for me would be about what the flag standing for was gone, even though the facade remained? I wouldn't do it to simply get a rise out of someone, but to spark some thought and conversation.

The only other reason I would do it would be if some silly law saying I couldn't do popped up. I would burn one every day then. Because I believe in free speech much more than I believe in the sanctity of symbols.

I understand your fascination with symbols, I spent a good deal of my trip in Ireland contemplating what the symbols over Newgrange might have meant.

431. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #171354 by MaxD on April 28, 2008 at 12:56 pm

Falcon,
I mentioned the same thing to him. You can get a waiver for almost anything these days. They still frown heavily on drug use, unless it is alcohol, which doesn't make any sense to me.
My left ear works for shit and they waivered me in. Since his brothers and stuff are in, I can only assume he is of enlistable age, which has also been stretched out a bit.

432. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #171345 by MaxD on April 28, 2008 at 12:50 pm

Falcon,
I understand your appreciation and respect for what the flag symbolizes, and for how it could be a very powerful symbol in certain circumstances, honor guard circumstance, (it is used twice to excellent effect in the movie The Valley of Elah. I just cannot get my head around your stronger personal stance about it.

Nothing personal mind you, and clearly you respect everyone's right to free speech and expression. The points of contention here are that not every one behaves the same way toward a symbol, or feels that the symbol is necessarily the best representation of what the republic is.

433. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #171332 by MaxD on April 28, 2008 at 12:42 pm

Karda,
Could you explain in anymore detail the unfortunate situation. I'll understand why you would not want to. I am just wondering if it had anything to do with the voices, or your current interesting ideas?

434. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #171320 by MaxD on April 28, 2008 at 12:30 pm

Falcon,
Aren't you more concerned with the thing thing the flag represents?
I've suggested this to DickDawkins here, that it isn't the flag anyone is swearing to defend. Its the constitution.

The flag is immaterial, and quite honestly all this fetishism concerning it distracting. Imagine what you think that flag symbolizes has become something for which you rather don't care. I mean maybe you think the american enterprise is debauched say, or maybe you think it is something gloriously reborn (accepting of homosexuality say) what better way to symbolize your message in as few words as possible by coming up with a powerful image using the symbol?

People who get all dewy eyed about the flag need to seriously think through what they believe about it.

435. Orangutan attempts to hunt fish with spear

Comment #171228 by MaxD on April 28, 2008 at 11:33 am

This an amazing photo. I wonder what it implies. Did the orang make the leap that if one could spear the fish in a net that it would be possible to spear them in any environment? Its too bad we don't know more.

DamnDirtyApe,
Crows and Ravens are spectacular problem solvers, good at solving novel problems dreamt up by mean researchers. I'll direct you to a little more respect for the Corvidae in general sir! :)

436. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #171216 by MaxD on April 28, 2008 at 11:23 am

Annabanna,
I was thinking the same thing. ID proponents have long had a tendency to be engineers. He claims he isn't though. But he also holds, what I would consider, ideas that seem typically creationist.

437. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #171211 by MaxD on April 28, 2008 at 11:20 am

Honestly can't really tell you why it doesn't fit, but when I picture the ideal America they just don't fit in. IDK why not, but if you want to pick my brain, it might take you a while.

I've seen little evidence that would indicate that it would take awhile.

I think homosexuals fit fine with the picture of ideal America. Hmmmm. Does that seem like a valid argument to you? I think you have to unpack your perspective more and really justify your fascism. I mean seriously Dick, I can't help but see how much you positively detest freedom.

438. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #171203 by MaxD on April 28, 2008 at 11:13 am

Prankster,
I could never make my Karate Champ guy move like that!

439. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #171190 by MaxD on April 28, 2008 at 11:01 am

Dick old chum.
Dick, Dick, Dick, how could you slam reservists and the Guard? Without that necessary support force there would be no two fron conflict going on at the moment. Did you know, Dick, that Reservists and Guard units have at times out numbered actual active duty personel in Iraq? Hmmm Dick? You do realize that such units undergo precisely the same basic traing for whatever service branch they enlist in? Dick I understand how you probably wouldn't as you didn't serve. No problem. Ignorance is curable!

SPC Hall put on the uniform didn't he? He took the same oath as everyone else. I think I'm quite comfortable thinking he cared plenty about the US. Suing the Army for allowing the harrassment isn't his fault its the Army's for letting this jock-style-christianity infest too much of the military.

440. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #171173 by MaxD on April 28, 2008 at 10:50 am

Al-rawandi
Isn't it just like these guys. Several posters on this site are military or exmilitary and seem to understand the fight for the contistition idea fairly well. But this guy wants to hold his family's military record up as if that proves some point. And christ he doesn't even know what the oath to defend is all about. Dick, have you tried to get in recently? The standards are dramatically lower (I got a waiver and my left ear is next to useless!).

I've no real desire to burn a flag. But if someone were to outlaw it I would immediately burn one and then we could all go to court.

Dick, old chum,
If you want to use words like faggot and homo that is fine. No one will take you too terribly seriously. It will certainly not demonstrate this fabled love of Christ business you christians are always on about, and it may just provoke a bit of hostility in response to your own in your direction. Hostility I would hasten to add you can't justifiably complain about.
Think about it okay,
Dick.

441. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #171150 by MaxD on April 28, 2008 at 10:38 am

DickDawkins,
You won't mind if I just refer to you by your first name will you?
Dick you said:

I didn't make any threats. How is that offensive? 'Cause I insult your pweshush Dawkinsh? Should someone kiss his bruised ego? You guys are bitch asses. Atheists troll youtube all the time, now I say something about Dawkins, I get shit and when I retaliate it's trolling? Some "freethinkers" you guys are.


No one flagged you because you said mean and nasty things about Dawkins. They flagged you for slurs against starspangledeagle. Dick, surely you remember them. They involved non-cogent argument terminology like fag. See, Dick?

Now,
Dick no one here would have flagged you had you presented a rather straightforward biblical case to back your ridiculous homophobia. Dick you would have gotten strident disagreement, but Dick I gotta tell you, nobody would have reacted too terribly angrily at your fanatastical ignorance of the very scriptures that so excite you, Dick.

Now Dick, I hope you see better why people reacted so strongly to you.
Good Day
Dick.

442. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #171133 by MaxD on April 28, 2008 at 10:24 am

DickDawkins,
Um are you serving in the military? I'll tell you what I recently swore to defend and it wasn't the flag. It was the Constitution. Your ancestors fought to protect a way of life not some peice of fabric.

443. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #171079 by MaxD on April 28, 2008 at 9:52 am

Wow we are certainly getting a number of drive-by posters today. Blackhawk089 and DickDawkins who seem to have bought into the lame propaganda that surrounded the expelling of PZ from the theater, and last night there was that mainiac guy.

Blackhawk089 may I ask, should you still be around, what you moniker means or references?
DickDawkins, I would suggest you do some research on the differences between satanists and atheists- they keep that information hidden in books which may explain why you have missed it before. The dictionary will be a good place to start.

444. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #170958 by MaxD on April 28, 2008 at 7:25 am

In the last paragraph (and one of my more important points) of my comment to MelissaJoy, I said,

One thing that deeply bothers me. I mean lots. is the assurity with which you, and others like yourself declare my mind to me. I've heard you claim, along with others, that I really already now God exists I am just rebelling against him with my free will. This assurity positively infuriates me. At the same time such a stance frightens me for that which it betrays. It means you can never be convinced of the truth of what I am saying. You will always think it is just a matter of me opening my heart to Jesus, because it could never be a matter of logic or reasoning on my part. It could never be about the evidence. That would impugn the character of your God.
Proof of the creation cannont be up for debate, because if it is then God is unjust. How can he hold people like myself accountable for simply being unconvinced of his existence using the tools of evidence examination, logic and reason?
That would be too grisly to even contemplate.


I noticed this from Remnant, can't remember if TruthID said this (TruthID if you are reading this could you refresh my memory?) and MelissaJoy, I am sure I heard David Robertson say something to this effect, and as I've mentioned I've heard this from other of our theist visitors nice or mean.
I don't think this can bode well for discussion, and is at it's heart hugely disrespectful.

445. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #170945 by MaxD on April 28, 2008 at 6:59 am

Riandouglas's Comment #170744 on April 27, 2008 at 11:49 pm
Was nicely done!

446. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #170939 by MaxD on April 28, 2008 at 6:48 am

shinewithjoy!


How is it that rates of depression, violent crimes, teenage pregnancies, and STI/STD's have risen dramatically since prayer was taken out of school?
Richard Dawkins, you will bow to your Creator someday; that is a fact. I hope you face it before you die.
"that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father" Philippians

You will be happy to note that teen pregnancy, at least in the US is higher in the most religious areas! The same goes for violent crime.
Also, while it isn't a huge difference, born agains get divorced more often than atheists.
Hmmmmmm....kind of hurts the picture you want to paint doesn't it.....?

447. Science leads to killing people

Comment #170736 by MaxD on April 27, 2008 at 11:18 pm

Stein is the goofy machivellian kind political mind that likes to play at morality, but I notice how narrow his sympathies always seem to be. Where was Ben Stein on Darfur, Uganda, Somalia once that mess landed in Clinton's lap? Where was Stein on Bosnia? I am just going to bet it wasn't likely you'd hear him espousing any kind human rights based military action. I could be wrong but I just did a quick google search and found nothing on it.
He just likes playing big super power politics. Screw him

448. Science leads to killing people

Comment #170721 by MaxD on April 27, 2008 at 10:52 pm

I was thinking that what really kills people dead is reactionary, short term gain politics both foreign and domestically applied. It is certainly a kind of politics endorsed by Stein.

449. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #170716 by MaxD on April 27, 2008 at 10:44 pm

I'm fairly certain you lost your mind when you said....

The quick dispatch of 30 million cubic miles of sediments was a good example of an impatient dismissal I think.

I've thumbed through more than one geology text book and haven't come across that doozy. I am not a geologist though. So have no expertise on the subject.
txpiper are you by any chance a geologist?

450. Science leads to killing people

Comment #170703 by MaxD on April 27, 2008 at 10:32 pm

Ugh. This is annoying. If that is the kind of logic and reasoning skill produced at Yale I am unimpresssed.

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