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Comments by Philip1978


401. Fleabytes

Comment #153729 by Philip1978 on April 2, 2008 at 12:28 am

Aww Is David feeling victimised again?

David you ARE a liar, you have been very deceptive, as has been pointed out to you several times! You treat people like crap and then somehow get upset when they don't worship you - bit like God really!

Cheer up! :)

Philip

402. Anti-Quran Film Fitna Pulled From Web Due to 'Threats'

Comment #153252 by Philip1978 on April 1, 2008 at 9:42 am

I see no problems with having all Shariah supporters, foreign or domestic, put on the first ship to whatever Islamic country will have them.


I am going to have to side with Steve on this, there is no way I want the country I live in to become like that.

I think Islam is a very scary and dangerous religion that can and has inspired people to do the most dreadful things in the name of Allah etc

That quote from Geoff is very very true, I know someone who worked out in Pakistan and that is the way of politics there. All political decisions are made with what the religious deem right, regardless of weather it is harmful for the country and it is a highly corrupt system at that.


But I refuse to live in a country that becomes a monster in itself by simply deporting the problem away on the next ship. How much would that help rally their cause even further? How much more resentment would that cause?

I don't have any answers to Islamic Fundamentalism, I am worried very deeply about it, its so horribly dangerous and it does need to be stopped somehow. I will speak out against it with all my breath but I will not become a monster to do that no matter what. They will commit more atrocities in this world and they will do terrible things, hopefully they will be brought to justice for it, but I will NOT become part of something evil myself.


Philip

403. Vote on freedom of expression marks the end of Universal Human Rights

Comment #153242 by Philip1978 on April 1, 2008 at 9:21 am

This article does scare me a little in the sense that I think something is well and truly up to no good.

What the heck are countries like Cuba, Russia and China doing voting for all this rubbish? I cannot see any possible advantage for them politically at all, I can guess why countries like Pakistan voted for it but Cuba, come on, something hideously odd is going on here or I am getting all conspiracy theorist for no good reason!

Secondly, I may have got this hideously wrong so correct me please, but isn't just ever so slightly dangerous allowing these sort of countries the "right" to get offended at anything they consider to be in direct conjunction with Islam. That could be absolutely ANYTHING! If there haven't been enough killings over films and cartoons already, what happens when one of the more nuclear countries decides that their "rights" have been infringed?


Thirdly, I must be getting paranoid in my youth but isnt this is a very clever way of also spreading Islamic influence around the world? Don't the fundamentalists hold on to the notion that anything that is not Islamic is fair game to kill maim and destroy because its Allah's will? So any country that breaks a rule of this bill is in vast amounts of trouble, how would the situation be rectified with out resorting to conflict? Diplomatic relations are nigh on impossible against this because all the Islamic country would do is to say they feel offended and that's it, Kabooom!


Scary stuff indeed, I do hope this can be sorted out or there is going to be massive amounts of trouble.

Philip

404. Vote on freedom of expression marks the end of Universal Human Rights

Comment #153221 by Philip1978 on April 1, 2008 at 8:25 am

I nominate you all instead of me!!

I'd be hopeless, instead of talking about politics and human rights I would be bounding around the place offering people cups of Tea!


Philip

405. Fleabytes

Comment #152445 by Philip1978 on March 31, 2008 at 3:28 am

Reverend Dark

My sincere condolences sir, I am sorry for your family's loss of someone so dear.


I have very fond memories of both my grandmothers, they both had an enormous impact on the sort of person I am today.

I can imagine someone who can put up with a sinful, long haired, knife wielding atheist AND play scrabble with them sounds quite a formidable person! :) I am glad she brought such an impact into your life, that can never be a bad thing


No religious bullshit about Jesus, Holy ghosts or Gods will ever take that away and I am sorry you had to put up with that insensitive priest - This is one of the things I loathe about religion, its one of the reasons I had a go at Wooter a while back, the lack of PROPER compassion and disingenuous dribblings just fail to do justice to help in the real world.

There is nothing quite like the real people in your life, who stick by you, offer advice and are there for you when you need it the most, those people matter so much more than religion.

My sympathies again,

Philip

406. Beware the Believers

Comment #151587 by Philip1978 on March 29, 2008 at 3:03 am

Richard,

I am as confused as you are about this video and I have the mind of an adolescent tucked away in this 29 year old head of mine!

What the hell was that all about?

Philip

407. Fossil find could be Europe's first humans

Comment #151568 by Philip1978 on March 29, 2008 at 2:08 am

Ah,
I see Richard Morgan is showing evolution working as per usual!

Excellent stuff Richard, am proud of you!

This is so tea drinkingly excellent, I love it when they find new fossils, even small bits and are then able to reconstruct the features in the model shown above.


The hominid jawbone itself is probably from a female because it is small. Although the jaw fragment is not much to go on, from previous fossils the researchers can guess that the cave people would have been around 1.7 metres high (5ft 7in), with a brain three-quarters the size of ours.


Just how they go about getting all that info out of one jawbone I think is just amazing, I am very impressed at how far science has come to be able to get such accurate readings.

Well, long may it continue, I for one am always very happy to hear about these sorts of finds, bravo!


Philip

408. I always aim to misbehave

Comment #151561 by Philip1978 on March 29, 2008 at 1:42 am

Well, my cup of Tea is firmly held high in a massive cheers for PZ, if this is not a definition of a hoopy frood who knows where his towel is, I don't know what would be!

Funny this whole mentioning of Hitler, after reading through all the things that the Expelled crew have been blathering on about Nazis I remembered a well known phrase of Hitler's. The bigger the lie, the more people will believe it - now, is it me, or are Mathis, Stein & co lying their arses off to make this look like it was in fact all the atheists fault?

Everybody should know that PZ did nothing wrong in any of this and that the Expelled crew over-reacted, but it is obvious, at least to me, that they are now lying so that atheists are seen in a bad light in the Christian community. Do they think if they keep repeating the same bullshit over and over again, people will actually rally to their cause?

I am very glad there are people like PZ, PZ's daughter, Richard, Josh - anyone who has contributed into bringing into light what has really happened- who are showing these guys as to what they are really doing - shooting themselves in the foot with a bazooka!

Go gettem!

Philip

409. Happy Birthday, Richard Dawkins!

Comment #150463 by Philip1978 on March 27, 2008 at 12:49 am

Happy Birthday Richard!

Well, better late than Jesus, I thought I would add my own best wishes, I hope you had an amazing day yesterday! :)

Cheeers!

Philip

410. Fleabytes

Comment #149628 by Philip1978 on March 26, 2008 at 2:46 am

Styrer,

I hope you have a fine kettle and a good supply to whatever hot drink you love the most, call me "mad as a pair of trousers filled with kippers Philip" but my instincts tell me you are in for a long wait! :)

Philip

411. Wicked untruths from the Church

Comment #149617 by Philip1978 on March 26, 2008 at 2:19 am

David

For a guy who is doing all he can to make the image of his own church less dreary, you seem to be doing a really crap job!

Cheer up! :)


Philip

412. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #149594 by Philip1978 on March 26, 2008 at 1:32 am

Diacanu

Despite the fact I feel you have earned a good cup of Tea for your excellent post I think you missed out a category there that is unique unto its own. You gave 3 types of Liar for Jesus, I give you -1 Type....



WOOTER!

You can't actually pinpoint what the hell the hermaphrodite is lying about in the first place, if you can find Jesus in there, well, good luck to you!

Cheeeers! :)

Philip

413. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #149200 by Philip1978 on March 25, 2008 at 9:00 am

Christian

My goodness, you are an amoral aphilatelist indeed, making people lick the stamps and seeing them suffer whilst you enjoy it!

(To quote The Baby Eating Bishop of Bath and Wells from Blackadder, Series 3 Episode called Money:)

Never have I encountered such corrupt and foul-minded perversity! Have you ever considered a career in the Church?


:)

Philip

414. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #149187 by Philip1978 on March 25, 2008 at 8:39 am

Christian

they at least don't think I am one of those despicable aphilatelists who are up to no good.



You remember when you had to lick stamps in the past...what do you think us aphilatelists did to the stamps to make them taste so bad? You never thought of that did ya? BWHAHAHAHAHA! :)

Philip

415. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #149172 by Philip1978 on March 25, 2008 at 8:17 am

Christopher Davis

Here's the rub...Creationists need Hitler to be an atheist. Then they can claim that because he feared no divine repercussions, he felt no inhibitions regarding his actions.


Excellent point sir, that makes tons of sense to me - if you read the Fleabytes thread and Paula Kirby's amazing article you will see that is the sort of thing David writes about in his book. This odd and somewhat dangerous way of thinking, having no God means no morals, isn't it such a surprise I have not been on the rampage yet and encouraged my fellow "fundamentalist atheists" to come with me?!

Anything to make the atheist look bad - this is what you turn into once you have abandoned God! Its an amazing scare tactic and a fine way of deceitfully distorting the image of atheism whilst looking all high and mighty.

Look at this Expelled nonsense, its another deceitful scare tactic, (using examples of Hitler), built on lies, distortions of character - a sort of "look at us persecuted victims, those nasty atheists and their evil version of science did this to us!"

Pathetic!

Philip

416. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #149131 by Philip1978 on March 25, 2008 at 6:45 am

wyattroberts

But don't you think Stein asked a fantastically stupid question?

Philip

417. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #149118 by Philip1978 on March 25, 2008 at 6:26 am

Al

I completely agree with you sir, brutal regimes, religions, Governments etc are/were acting in the name of oppressive ideologies. Not going to question that ever, I have studied enough history to see it repeating itself in different guises.

I am just bored to death of hearing people like David trotting out the same old tired meme about atheists being the supposedly evil people that they are because of their atheism. Its got bugger all to do with it except David and others think its so bloody clever and intelligent to keep linking the two together. I could be the next Hitler or I could be the kindest man in the world - it would have sod all to do with my atheist stance on religious matters.


Philip

418. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #149112 by Philip1978 on March 25, 2008 at 6:08 am

Sam Harris was right, how many times are we going to hear this bullshit argument showing Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot etc?

No matter how many times you turn around and say that the one thing these evil men did not do is commit every single atrocity and act of disgusting barbarity BECAUSE OF or IN THE NAME OF Atheism!

George Bush does things in the name of his God, Osama Bin Laden does things in the name of Allah, The Pope does things in the name of God - all of this has one thing in common - they are doing it BECAUSE OF or IN THE NAME OF their higher, invisible, undetectable figment of their imagination.

Hitler was possibly a Catholic or a hypocrite or both, did he not do the things he did because he was a political power hungry megalomaniac delusional bastard? Stalin saw the effect of religion and basically set up a new one in the guise of Communism so he could be a political power hungry megalomaniac delusional bastard!

The list goes on as to why they did the horrific things they did but for goodness sake I advise people like yourself David, who take every opportunity to make people look bad by twisting and distorting facts about atheism, to SHUT UP about it, its sodding pathetic!

Atheism is a complete absence of a belief in Gods, the supernatural etc That's it! Finished, Case closed! If I do a good thing its because I am hoping to be a good man, if I want to be a bastard the chance is there for me to be a bastard and gain advantage from it - I would do those things because of character flaws or something like that, chemical brain imbalance perhaps - but not because I "believe" in Atheism. Atheism is just a word that describes or explains my view on religious matters but it sure as bloody hell does not describe or explain the reason for my sodding actions!

Philip

419. Two More Fleas

Comment #149052 by Philip1978 on March 25, 2008 at 3:55 am

Quetz

I think you are on to something, I seem to remember Wooter being very unclear on Tea a while back and I got gibbered at like it was a profession!

I wonder how much Tea you would have to give Clearmind before he/she/it came back to the light-side?

Philip

420. Two More Fleas

Comment #149043 by Philip1978 on March 25, 2008 at 3:16 am

Irate,

Quick get to the shops! I get very worried when good people like yourself are approaching a No Tea Horizon!

On the plus side I had an Almighty amount of Tea over the weekend, Quetz be praised! :)

Philip

421. Fleabytes

Comment #149033 by Philip1978 on March 25, 2008 at 2:36 am

Richard Morgan

I wish you an amazingly great, mischievous but on the whole extremely happy birthday!

BRAVO!

Philip

422. Sue Blackmore debates Alister McGrath

Comment #149021 by Philip1978 on March 25, 2008 at 1:18 am

Thing is Tacitus, first we have to investigate your meaning and use of the word "Waffle" - because since McGrath was an atheist and has read The Selfish Gene - he would have to really think about just what you meant by waffle.

Further more, he would say, as a Christian, that is not the Waffle he knows of and that not the Waffle that any other Christian would recognise!

He would also advise you to go and study Waffle to truly understand it's correct meaning!

:)

Philip

423. Two More Fleas

Comment #148819 by Philip1978 on March 24, 2008 at 2:12 am

Wooter

I can't believe you wrote that, I already thought that you were an insensitive bastard and possibly contributed to your getting banned for the tripe that you posted in regards to human suffering. But to say I have a fear of the Mona Lisa and that I think of it as a harbinger of Doom, well, thats it, I am beyond livid now!


I have been to Le Louvre and I have had the opportunity to see that great painting amongst all the other incredible works of art on display there. It was a very special moment in my life and you reduce it to some garbled play that had no plot and highly inaccurate character representation that simply was not funny.

Damn you and your trousers! Is it not enough that you insult science but now also my appreciation of art?

Philip

424. Fleabytes

Comment #148085 by Philip1978 on March 22, 2008 at 2:22 am

Right David,

Just this once I will show you why you are printing lies and distortions, because you obviously don't read posts very well do you?



Comment #146412 by Philip1978 on March 19, 2008 at 4:16 am

From Quetz's report:

DR claimed that RD believes that "the harm done by teaching children religion is as bad as sexual abuse"

David, I see despite numerous articles from Professor Dawkins plus the ACTUAL passage in The God Delusion you are STILL peddling misinformation and distortions of Professor Dawkins. You had the gall to ask me earlier about lies and distortions, well, voila!

Pathetic!

Philip




See, its there, I remember typing it!


Just so you can see it David, I have bolded out the particular bits that shows you are printing lies and distortions about people.

The lie is that Professor Dawkins NEVER said any of it and yet it has appeared in your "book" - people criticised you for it loads - so then you turn up at a talk in Bedford and are still arsing around telling LIES and DISTORTING people's words!


Just like you did with that Dr you debated recently

In fact I have noticed this - that in general when atheists come out of their shelters and get involved debating with other people (and not just talking amongst themselves) they often come off the worst. It is little wonder then that the RD tour of the US will be 'preaching to the choir; - others might be too dangerous!




D'oh, you slipped up again there David! No atheists do not " often come off the worst" in debates, I would love to see you last 5 seconds in front of anyone before you start claiming your God is the true one when you have nothing to back it up with. I have seen all your arguments for your God shredded to pieces ever since I have been on this site alone so don't even begin wiffling about proof of your God.

Oh yes, there is that lovely bit at the end to have a snide go at Professor Dawkins - he will not be "Preaching to the choir", he will be talking to people with faith as well as without, that last sentence is a distortion of the truth, which is what I have been pointing out to you all along.

I really don't want to print any more of your slip ups, there are too many and this post would surpass your "book" in the number of pages.


So shut up, stop denying you are a liar and a distorter of people's words and actions, its not going to work.

Philip

425. God's cure for gays lost in sin

Comment #147399 by Philip1978 on March 20, 2008 at 9:38 am

Rachel

I am a bold man, sometimes these things have to be done, even the Daily Telegraph!

I promise I won't ever underestimate Scrabble, you wouldn't believe some of the words that I have heard some women come up with whilst playing, good grief it got my heart racing I tell you! :)

Philip

426. God's cure for gays lost in sin

Comment #147397 by Philip1978 on March 20, 2008 at 9:23 am

A cure for consenting adults to do what affects nobody but themselves....riiiiiiiiiight!

Why is it religion wants to cure everything that doesn't affect the world rather than stick to the more important things like disease, famine, world hunger, poverty etc?

Pathetic!

Philip

427. God's cure for gays lost in sin

Comment #147393 by Philip1978 on March 20, 2008 at 9:10 am

Rachel Holmes

My goodness, I never knew lesbians were so daring! ;)

You be careful, next thing I know you will be attempting the Daily Telegraph Crossword! I have heard of people doing it on the train but in bed...what a challenge!

Philip

428. Fleabytes

Comment #147375 by Philip1978 on March 20, 2008 at 8:42 am

I bloody hope not!

You never know though, look how many times it got translated before the Unicorns were introduced - that whole misunderstanding over the oxen was finally cleared up by the King James Bible, thank goodness for that!!
:)
Philip

429. Fleabytes

Comment #147373 by Philip1978 on March 20, 2008 at 8:34 am

Very true

Hmm, I will edit that sentence

I am sorry to be the one to break this to you, I will see that your next cup of Tea is blessed in the name of Quetz, but yes, it is a load of incomplete bollocks.

Hows that? I would not want to offend the Irate family jewels or any others for that matter!

Philip

430. Fleabytes

Comment #147367 by Philip1978 on March 20, 2008 at 8:23 am

irate_atheist

I am sorry to be the one to break this to you, I will see that your next cup of Tea is blessed in the name of Quetz, but yes, it is complete bollocks.

Philip

431. Fleabytes

Comment #147345 by Philip1978 on March 20, 2008 at 7:40 am

Mylearnedfriend

How broad a spectrum would you like?

My advice is go and look at all religions before Christianity, especially the Near Eastern ones, look at their fascination with the Zodiac, Constellations, the position of the sun during the four seasons.

Look at all the similarities in the actions and events of all the Gods involved in relation to what happened to Jesus in the bible and then really start thinking about if it all is one mighty coincidence that virgin birth, raising dead people, performing miracles, dying and then coming back to life etc etc are appearing in religions before yours did.

Its not just Jesus who is a plagiarised metaphor, Job for example, his story is an EXACT replica of an Egyptian story, told WAY before the Talmud was written.

Then go and look at the complete lack of information, historical records, of Jesus EVER existing from 4 BC to 40AD, any miracles SHOULD have been recorded by independent witnesses - even visitors from other countries surely would have raced back to their own countries with stories of this miracle man?

The Bible is so historically inaccurate - if the flood happened for example, how come at least 7 generations of Egyptian Pharaohs lived on afterwards - was a descendent brought on the ark?


Read this

http://www.bidstrup.com/bible.htm

It is very well written and should give you an idea of how useless the Bible is to source historical events from.

Plus finally:

And who knows, maybe supernatural events do have their rules and laws?


Why not just stick with the natural laws, they seem to work perfectly well enough without Gods? Just a thought.

I like your questioning though, its good to have a chat about this, I am very interested in this subject and I like the challenge.

Cheers

Philip

432. Two More Fleas

Comment #147228 by Philip1978 on March 20, 2008 at 3:49 am

Next is Philip1978


Ah Philip. Your remedy lies in reading carefully and trying to understand what the real world is around. What is the logic you keep saying that you are looking for the maker of Mona Lisa inside the painting? You do the same thing when you look for the luck and chances as maker inside the creations! Amino acids, colours and compare these two. You got it?


No, I haven't got any of that, can you type that out in Russian and I will see what I can make of it then?

Please, give me an English sentence that does not have any of your cryptic metaphor, I could cope with that! I want a sentence like this:

I do not believe in any God because I think religion is a dangerous and highly unnecessary way of living life.

See, there is a sentence that does not contain metaphors about sodding worms and elephants!

Can you do that?

Philip

433. Fleabytes

Comment #147211 by Philip1978 on March 20, 2008 at 3:21 am

I dislike all the lying, the mental torturing, the obstruction of knowledge and reason in return with stupidity, arrogance and bullying that is associated with it all.



Me too. Whether it is associated with religion or atheism.



Well, if you would be so kind as to stop doing it, I would respect you more!

Plus I don't bully, mentally torture,obstruct knowledge and reason with my atheism, I don't bully etc at all, but if I did it would be because I was a bully etc and not an atheist!

Stop printing lies and distortions!

Philip

434. Fleabytes

Comment #147186 by Philip1978 on March 20, 2008 at 2:35 am

Pathfinder

WTF?


The only thing is, if I were not a Christian I would be far, far worse.


Ok, that's really very scary!


But let's have a level-playing field, ladies and gentlemen.


Well, I guess its easier to get folk in your gun sights that way after giving up God! Sorry, do you want to be arrested now in case one day you have a crisis of "Faith", simply say "sod it, I can't be arsed with God no more" and kill everybody in your path?

YOU IDIOT!

How can you HONESTLY think that by losing your Faith you would just lose all morality just like that?

There are several people on this site who have given up their religion in favour of a better life and so far I haven't heard any death threats.

I have never had an ounce of Faith in my life and yet, funnily enough, I have grown up to be the man I am today - no criminal record or mass murdering for me.


Get a grip for goodness sake, morality doesn't come from Gods, just realise you are a human being!

I mean you no ill Pathfinder but those comments are highly scary, I suggest you have a think about what you have said. Have you really been indoctrinated by religion that much that you are THAT scared of atheists?

I have real concern about this, atheism is simply a lack of belief in Gods like Thor, Odin, Yahweh and Allah - Do you think my lack of belief in Thor makes me a more dangerous man? I take it you don't believe in Odin, is it any wonder why you haven't fallen off the rails yet?

Come on, you can do better than this surely?

Philip

435. Two More Fleas

Comment #147178 by Philip1978 on March 20, 2008 at 2:03 am

Jon,

I thought your description of Wooter's country of origin is fascinating, I really have always thought that he/she/it/detestable glob of yeast on the pap smear of life (Excellent post Reverend by the way!) was from somewhere like Thailand. I, though I am absolutely no expert in this what so ever, keep looking at his short, very insistent, jumbled sentence structure, odd analogies and picturing that kind of accent. (I am obviously over-generalising a great deal here, this is probably bordering on stereotyping so please forgive any offence if caused, I don't mean to)

May I also take this chance to raise my two pint mug of Tea in support of everybody's contributions, I find them fascinating to the core. The best I have ever done is swear at Wooter and point out just how much of an insensitive [insert favourite swear word, mine would be cunt, but I like freedom of expression!] that he/she/it/detestable glob of yeast on the pap smear of life has become due to the horrible influence of religion.

I think the good Reverend's post has spelt it out extremely well about what Wooter is like, the effect on religion someone like Wooter is so manifestly dangerous to life on planet Earth (Quetz knows where Wooter is - this planet with cats with paintbrushes up their arses and humans with the Sword Excaliber in the same place sounds mightily wrong!). Kids get taught very bad and highly inaccurate things, knowledge, reason,PROPER logic and sincere love of your fellow humans all get substituted and disregarded in order for fuzzy feelings created to justify the greatness of an invisible celestial bastard. I shall call this The Wooter Effect - The complete disregard for all that is good, intelligent, fun and helpful in this world just so God can provide that celestial vibrator Wooter so openly covets.

I for one am obviously sick of it and all I would like in this world is for Wooter to CHANGE HIS/HERS/IT'S/DETESTABLE GLOB OF YEAST ON THE PAP SMEAR OF LIFE'S MIND.

Go on Wooter, take the bloody God goggles off for 10 sodding minutes, I dare you, I really do!


Until then tovarishch, keep deluding yourself and we can keep correcting you until you come to your senses

Tally Ho

Philip

436. Two More Fleas

Comment #146427 by Philip1978 on March 19, 2008 at 4:38 am

LOGIC?

Is that some sort of Post Modernist Sentence Generator? A new computer language?

From Wiki

Logic (from Classical Greek logos) meaning word, thought, idea, argument, account, reason, or principle) is the study of the principles and criteria of valid inference and demonstration.

I can see none of the above from you so far, what on Earth you call logic is to the rest of the world highly illogical!

Philip

437. Fleabytes

Comment #146412 by Philip1978 on March 19, 2008 at 4:16 am

From Quetz's report:

DR claimed that RD believes that "the harm done by teaching children religion is as bad as sexual abuse"



David, I see despite numerous articles from Professor Dawkins plus the ACTUAL passage in The God Delusion you are STILL peddling misinformation and distortions of Professor Dawkins. You had the gall to ask me earlier about lies and distortions, well, voila!

Pathetic!

Philip

438. Religion 'linked to happy life'

Comment #146395 by Philip1978 on March 19, 2008 at 3:21 am

As usual people haven't done enough research, asked the right questions and thus have come up with false results.

If they just interviewed me and mentioned the word Tea they would know this lifelong Atheist/Tea mad Looney is FAR happier than anything the religious can possibly muster!

Balls I say to them, I demand an interview!!

Philip

439. Two More Fleas

Comment #146382 by Philip1978 on March 19, 2008 at 2:56 am

Calilasseia

It breaks my heart that Wooter is actually a teacher, even after that truly magnificent and interesting post you left, Wooter will still be talking bullshit and passing it on to kids. Thank you for that though, I am a bit of a duffer when it comes to evolution but I am slowly learning stuff from good people like yourself and all the other folk on here, cheers tons.

TonyA, you deserve a medal and a good cup of Tea for that translation, I will have words with Quetz to make your next cuppa a goodun!

Philip

440. Fleabytes

Comment #146368 by Philip1978 on March 19, 2008 at 2:19 am

JESUS IS LORD! CREATION'S VOICE PROCLAIMS IT!

Really, such language Quetz! I know David makes people swear sometimes but the was no need for that kind of outburst! :)

Glad you made it out of there, though I don't doubt the Mighty Quetz, you have no need for a HAZMAT Suit being a God, I was more worried about the bullshit staining your clothes!

Tally Ho!

Clodhopper, your Tea sir, its ready and waiting next to your copy of The God Delusion! :)

Philip

441. Fleabytes

Comment #146356 by Philip1978 on March 19, 2008 at 1:53 am

I just hope poor Quetz got out before the HAZMAT team arrived to clear up the radioactive bullshit David was spewing forth

Philip

442. Fleabytes

Comment #146343 by Philip1978 on March 19, 2008 at 1:23 am

Oh yes, and a Tally Bally Ho with a Ying and a Yang and a Yibedeedee* to Mark W, good to have you on board sir!


Philip

* Quote from Blackadder, in English it means Hello! :)

443. Fleabytes

Comment #146334 by Philip1978 on March 19, 2008 at 1:09 am

Le Clair Penseur.

Erm while you are waiting for us to repent, I feel we could be some time here, would you like a cup of tea?

How many milks and sugars?

Philip

444. Fleabytes

Comment #145929 by Philip1978 on March 18, 2008 at 10:14 am

GOD HIMSELF

I don't suppose its GOD HERSELF messing around with the caps lock is it? I mean she found the lipstick last time didn't she?


Quetz, I wish you all the best for tonight, will await your report eagerly

Philip

445. Two More Fleas

Comment #145875 by Philip1978 on March 18, 2008 at 9:00 am

Word salad is better than evolution tree salad? How do you think? Have a nice logic day


Now, I am sure that's English, I live in this country, have done for nearly 30 years, I studied its literature for part of my degree, Clearmind, I cannot for the life of me decipher what it is you are on about. Please can you translate that for me?

Philip

446. Fleabytes

Comment #145847 by Philip1978 on March 18, 2008 at 8:12 am

Paula, you could have been really nasty and said Slough, you obviously were not as good a Christian as David! :)

Philip

(If you need to know about Slough, look at John Betjeman's poem about it or Mordor from Lord of the Rings - as Boromir says "there is an Evil there that never sleeps!")

447. Fleabytes

Comment #145804 by Philip1978 on March 18, 2008 at 6:49 am

Gods love is unconditional


No its not, if I am to read the Bible correctly, he set a highly credulous Adam and Eve up to commit original sin and then sent his son to Earth on a suicide mission to become a scapegoat for the world's sins. According to the Bible you inherit this sin until you worship Jesus - so that means when you are born you are a sinner even though you had NO choice in the matter. Love God or burn - that's a condition to me and speaks nothing of his love for you. The more nasty stuff he does, the more people worship him - that is Stockholm Syndrome if you ask me.


Better to have God, isn't it?




How come I am the man who I am today then? Have my posts, esp to Steve and Irate recently not given you a small inkling as to the sort of man that I am? I have lived my whole life without God and I will do so for the rest of my time here. I have heard stories from all on here who used to believe and they have given me no indication of a great life under the influence of God, in fact, they are leading better lives now than they ever were. So no, having the burden of God to not having it is not better in the slightest

Philip

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Comment #145768 by Philip1978 on March 18, 2008 at 6:01 am

I may not have met your wife Irate but have nothing but the deepest admiration of her accomplishments from what I have heard from you. With you and Irate Junior by her side I have the greatest confidence that she is in safe hands! :)

Speaking of which how is the little rascal aka Irate Junior?

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Comment #145750 by Philip1978 on March 18, 2008 at 4:51 am

Steve its not just the Tea that makes me smile, I am an optimistic looney who has a reasonably un-crushable lust for life. I get enthusiastic about quite a lot... well, pretty much anything in fact... for example, I have been listening to good music this morning! I cannot quite pin point as to precisely why, all I know this is how I want to live life. I know its got nothing to do with the supernatural and more to do with hoping that its infectious to the people around me.


Pathfinder

Churchill did not do that because he was an atheist, he did it mostly because of politics and the survival of the country he was in charge of because a great evil had emerged and was conquering Europe. That's the point I was hoping to get across

I think I haven't explained my views on hell well enough so here goes.

God and Jesus supposedly love you, yes?

So as long as you worship them, live by the highly impossible rules, watch some of the worst things in the world happen, accept any punishment handed down because you somehow deserved it - all of this with no means of communication or clarification- and continue to love them you can get into heaven.

Should you fail to do these things, you will be sent to a place of fire and brimstone with much gnashing of teeth etc

But, not to worry because God and Jesus love to bits!

I have referred to this many times as being exactly like Stockholm Syndrome and so far I have not been convinced otherwise. God holds you hostage, does horrible things to you and mankind - doesn't matter how many times or the level of nastiness attached- and he manges to still get your love in return.

I refuse point blank to accept this.

This is mental torture, this is religion at its level bastard nastiness for which I have no time for. This is celestial dictatorship, bow down or else - So imagine if you can the number of people who truly fear God and going to hell and imagine the torment some people put themselves through for even the smallest of things.

Knowing what God wants is impossible, at best people can only imagine it - the bible will not help you verify stuff - so thinking you have done something wrong, praying for forgiveness but getting no answer can lead some to utter madness and terrible psychological problems. (See the exorcism article for a good example of this use of fear and misery)

I aspire to care as much as I can for people, this sort of thing annoys me and horrifies me - all because of lies and distortions from a religion. Wanting God's love and getting it are nigh on impossible.

I prefer the comfort and solace of good people who are real and there to help you through the tough times. Not figments of imagination that can drive a person to mental torture and misery.

So, I don't like the idea of hell because of that, I don't like religions because of it.

Does that help a bit?

Philip

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Comment #145688 by Philip1978 on March 18, 2008 at 2:25 am

Tis my favourite Garfield cup, I promise that was only Assam in there! :)

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