Ive seen different talk, is it worth it watching this or its kinda the same as before (when Richard and Lawrence had a talk).

My first impression of that woman was she's ok but then her Qs took wrong turn (I mean I like to hear that discussion but from RD's expression I guess he didnt think the convo would go that way, he wanted to talk about his new book, about wonder of evolution :/)

Yeah, im also from CZE, any way how to see it ? torrent mby ?

Edit: Thx a lot, the 2nd youtube link works for me, gonna watch it right now.

@ esuther Read the comment he was answering to and then edit your post ;-)

on the subject, its pity a 90% catholic country must give lecture..

"There is something profoundly un-American about demanding that people give up cherished, or even uncherished, beliefs just because they don't comport with science."

Is he for real ? Is he really saying "What, you dont want to respect my beliefs which dont comport with reality therefor ? What an egoism !" Yeah, you bad Americans, why cant you just show some respect to adults believing in Santa Claus, Xenu or w/e !

It really makes me angry to see so many ppl suffering because of ignorance and the fact that I cant do anything about it to change it :(

I cant stop thinking that ppl, when talking about "fine-tuned universe", sound very arrogant cause' they think of themselves as the WHY the universe is this tuned..
For me, its like...well if universe was tuned differently there might be no stars, galaxies, ...but what ? Universe would be just fine without us, without life.

#469023 by whe

By your logic there are many preachers at Universities..
I like that picture, its nice to see so many ppl are interested in what RD has to say.

Quine: You mean this http://richarddawkins.net/articles/5212 ? :)

About that "god sacrifice" thing.. Ok, lets put ourselves in god's position.
We can forgive sins...or we can go on earth, let ourselves being captured, tortured, killed....and then we can forgive them..hmmmm, which one to choose, which one is more admirable ?

#Quine
It might not be equivalent but it wasnt Richard who made that comment (about Santa vs religion) in first place.

Edit: but is it rly not equivalent ? Wouldnt you try to talk adults out of belief in Santa Clause ? (if they failed to learn the truth ?)

#mordalicous
"Richard did a wonderful job on this panel, too bad the last part was taken up by local politics."
Yeah and funny part is the Q was "...I would like to hear the views of the **non-politicians** on the panel.."

Anyway.....OMG !! I feel so sorry for Richard to be in their company, I wouldnt last even 5mins and just go HULK on them...(although mordalicous' point about idiots was hilarious :D)
Btw what was the score ? Like Dawkins 15:0 Rest of panel ?

#Jos Gibbons
As I might agree with first objection the second seems to me a bit ..misplaced.
His point was "Why to write about something we already (150 years) know it is true ?" and then he answers himself with "actually many ppl dont think so", so theres the reason.
He doesnt dismiss other reasons, he was just trying, imho, to asnwer the question I mentioned before.

#metch
That "just as annoying as believers" made me think about gays/lesbians/black ppl/women who had to (and unfortunately still has to) fight for their rights.. Many ppl used to say "well I agree they should have same rights but why do they have to go to streets etc"
They went to the streets because their rights werent same. And until they were it was necessary to be heard, to be loud, to make a stand. And, for me anyway, its the same with atheism. Many religious ppl can say "ok, they should have same rights blabla" but it should stop there. Its not just about being able to get a job or being respected whether I am or not a believer. It should go further, we should fight for actual separation of state and religion because even that is our right. Mby not as a atheist but as a citizen of particular country (afterall its not just for our/atheists protection).

But I would go even further and thats, I guess, what makes even atheists angry. We should show others that critical thinking is the right way, that accepting "truth" on a faith is a FAIL.
In the world, there are 2 things I hate most. Its a (manipulative) lie and an injustice. Religion (belief in god, religion, acting on this belief), in my eyes, represents both of these things.

Had it been taped in the USA, the label below Dawkins' name would have said "atheist"..it's really nice to see "Evolutionary Biologist" for a change.