Catholic Archbishop: Ebola is punishment from God for homosexuality

By Michael Stone

Gays are under attack in Liberia after many Christian leaders, including Catholic Archbishop Lewis Zeigler of Monrovia, declared Ebola to be a punishment from God for the act of homosexuality.

Earlier this year, “more than 100 Bishops, Pastors, General Overseers, Prophets, Evangelists and other Ministers of the Gospel,” met under the auspices of the Liberian Council of Churches (LCC), to deliberate about the Ebola epidemic.

Ultimately, the Christian leaders unanimously endorsed the following resolution:

“That God is angry with Liberia, and that Ebola is a plague. Liberians have to pray and seek God’s forgiveness over the corruption and immoral acts (such as homosexualism, etc.) that continue to penetrate our society. As Christians, we must repent and seek God’s forgiveness.”

Previously, Archbishop Lewis Zeigler of Monrovia publicly declared the following concerning the Ebola epidemic:


 

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57 COMMENTS

  1. Another Christian moron makes himself heard. It’s almost as good as the mad mullah who said that sin causes earthquakes.

    If it wasn’t so tragic, it would be funny.

    (Retreats quietly, and resists urge to bang head on table.)

  2. When the people work out what they did wrong to have this, more than 100 evil men thrust upon them then their anger might turn in the direction more deserving.

  3. @OP – Ultimately, the Christian leaders unanimously endorsed the following resolution:

    Demonstrating how the god-delusion virus rots their brains worse than the Ebola virus!

  4. This is truly heartbreaking. The obvious to anyone fallacies of children dying, and patient zero was apparently two years old, being linked to homosexuality, quite how is not explained, can only heap contempt on these pedlars of superstition.

    God obviously is not to keen on doctors and nurses either, and since the sub moronic views of these nasty, nasty, clerics, actually get listened too by their congregations, hugely more heart break and tragedy can only result.

    We, the people who read and write here, and in similar fora etc can state the obvious, and achieve sweet bugger all by so doing, I ask, how can these views be shown for what they are in a way that matters? Would writing to the so called “respectable” RC leadership do anything? Where are the “moderates” speaking out against this rubbish? Is the pope, the one who “accepts” evolution, hauling these cretins in to strip them of their pointy hats and shepherds crooks?

    Ideas, people, something that might do some good?

  5. “That God is angry with Liberia, and that Ebola is a plague. Liberians
    have to pray and seek God’s forgiveness over the corruption and
    immoral acts (such as homosexualism, etc.) that continue to penetrate
    our society. As Christians, we must repent and seek God’s
    forgiveness.”

    Nevermind the insanity of the claim that any person would be able to know the will of a being they can’t even demonstrate exists and the actual lack of moral character involved when you only do good things out of fear of anger or not getting into a unprovable afterlife, it’s most disturbing to see anyone insinuate the cause of a disease is actions of those the church doesn’t approve of. Not people that have actually committed crimes (like say, child rape and covering it up and the like) or those that are actually doing damage to society but people whose private lives they feel they must somehow control.

    And what reason would any ‘kind and loving god’ have for punishing those that weren’t responsible for a given crime in his eyes? Ebola’s effects are certainly worse than simply being homosexual (which last I checked was not actually harmful to anyone but the religious in some arbitrary way) so punishing the people not responsible for committing the ‘sin’ being mentioned seems well, capricious and stupid if you don’t like an entirely different group.

    The whole ‘plague as punishment for insert supposed crime here which is somehow against my insert deity of choice‘ has always been a hollow cry for people to shift blame for the sake of propping up a distasteful or often hideous dislike for something they don’t understand.

  6. OP:

    “That God is angry with Liberia, and that Ebola is a plague. Liberians have to pray and seek God’s forgiveness over the corruption and immoral acts (such as homosexualism, etc.) that continue to penetrate our society. As Christians, we must repent and seek God’s forgiveness.”

    The obnoxious view of the Christians preachers that we are all ‘sinful’, and deserving of nothing less than crawling around on our knees to avoid swimming in the lake of fire for an eternity, unless we come to accept Jesus, reminds me of the Mercedes cars that they drive around in.

    “Fuck you, I’m doing alright, but don’t dare cross the road in front of me” !

  7. Ok, Papa Frank. Time to really step up here. Excommunicate now! The good you could do would turn you into a saint on the spot. Evil right here in your very grasp.

    On the other hand I’m not holding my breath…

  8. http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/outbreaks/2014-west-africa/index.html

    WHO officially declared Senegal and Nigeria free of Ebola virus transmission on October 17 and 20, respectively.

    Presumably having relied on and used medical science.

    New cases continue to be reported from Guinea, Liberia, and Sierra Leone.

    Apparently as a result of using other methods, such as employing the diagnostic powers of deliberating Bishops, Pastors, General Overseers, Prophets, Evangelists and other Ministers of the Gospel,” under the auspices of the Liberian Council of Churches (LCC), and organising “repentant” gatherings of congregations excluding the gays etc.

  9. I don’t have a local, or any other kind of church, but is there any kind of address for the Vatican, or a local synod (if that is the right word) and, ideally, in Australia?

    I would love to enquire of our Archbishop, who noteably does not agree with evolution or climate change, and is the one beloved of and by our equally regressive Prime Minister, what exactly does he plan to do about clipping the wings of these cretins. He will have more authority obviously than I.

    Especially as Australian doctors and nurses are volounteering to go to help.

  10. On 16 October 2014, televangelist John Hagee said on air that Ebola is God’s punishment for President Obama’s attempts to “divide Jerusalem.” This world is full of big mouths who love to put the word Reverend before their name.

  11. God inflicts the same punishment on everyone at birth. Everyone dies of something sooner or later. Even if the dude in the pointy white hat kept his vows and never had any kids for reproductive or recreational purposes, being from Africa he must have lost many dear friends and beloved family members prematurely from a host of infections, bacterial and viral diseases, accidents and violence. How could he distinguish death from Ebola as a “special” punishment for homosexual acts. Dead is dead…from all causes.

  12. Looks like we just witnessed the advent of the Liberian version of Jerry Falwell. Personally I’m not surprised. It was only a matter of time before some religious crackpot would come up with this sort of obscene religious demagoguery. Like Phil mentioned, if pope Francis excommunicated this guy, he would gain a lot of credit from religious and non-religious people alike. Heck, he would even gain my respect…. But I’m willing to bet that’s not going to happen.

  13. This is exactly how nasty and vindictive the RCC is, anything we do not agree with is wrong and we blame it for totally unconnected problems in Africa. This is how it used to be in Europe until we started to think for ourselves and it will be interesting to see what the so called gay friendly Pope does about this worthless turd and all Catholics who think like him.

  14. Indeed,
    I am in fact less impressed by Frank than his predecessor. At least with Benadict you knew what he thought and he was willing to sprout his evil nonsense honestly. Frank does nothing to change the actual practice of his church. Is he the Vicar of Christ or not? If he is then he has the power to actually change things and actually protect the children under his care. Give the paedophiles up, open up your records and instigate some healing. If he does not in reality has any power then it’s quite simple a moral person would quit and let the world know in no uncertain terms exactly what is going on behind the Vatican closed doors. He won’t do that either. So what is left to conclude? A deeply compromised man claiming to have an authority he does not.

  15. Earlier this year, “more than 100 Bishops, Pastors, General Overseers, Prophets, Evangelists and other Ministers of the Gospel,” met under the auspices of the Liberian Council of Churches (LCC), to deliberate about the Ebola epidemic.

    Conclusion : Gays.

    You… fucktards.

  16. Religious delusions engender and perpetuate ignorance.

    They’re viral in nature, and act like parasites, manipulating the brains of those sufficiently credulous to believe them, disabling their native intellectual capabilities and development.

    The most tragic consequences occur in children, who become unwitting hosts, subsequently passing them on to their offspring.

    They are also utilized by fools like this archbishop to maintain their power base.

    Quite what can be done to rid the World of this curse I don’t know; I’m tempted to say education, but I know a lot of well educated people who are religious.

    It’s bewildering.

  17. This is a very old story. People blamed the bubonic plague on god’s wrath too, which distracted them from noticing the correlation with rats. “God” was really punishing them for putting up with rats and general lack of sanitation.

    How does the bishop know what it is that has God so upset? It can’t homosexuality since that part of the world is unusually intolerant. God should have smote Europe or Canada or countries with gay marriage if the bishop were correct. It could be eating bush meat. It could be female circumcision. It could be kidnapping girls. Of course the creator of the entire universe probably would not give a fig about something so petty. An there is a slight problem of the bishop’s god being a character of fiction, so has only indirect effects on the world.
    He is just exploiting Ebola to beat his own little drum.

  18. Roedy Nov 5, 2014 at 4:31 am

    This is a very old story.

    True!
    As we know Allah sends tsunamis when people to attend mosques regularly enough!

    People blamed the bubonic plague on god’s wrath too, which distracted them from noticing the correlation with rats.

    .. . .. And those earthquakes! Theistic “science” has religious explanations, for all powerful punishing natural events which preachers have worked out using empire-building recruitment “faith-thinking”! !

    (Brethren, comrades, and fellow believers: – Come and join us in taking advice from the village idiots who “know” all of the answers and none of the questions!)

  19. … or perhaps Ebola is the African tribal gods’ judgement on those countries for abandoning them in favour of imported European Imperialist alternatives.

    … or perhaps there is a materialist explanation which doesn’t play on ignorant people’s fear of the unknown.

    By the way Archbish, nice hat! You do know, don’t you, that the money spent on your hat could have been better spent digging a well in a remote village? Or that the money your rich church screws out of already poor villagers every year could build schools and hospitals all across Africa and actually make a positive difference to people’s lives? Do you even care? Or does running your protection racket desensitize you to the suffering you are causing?

  20. This is one of my favourite comments in their Daily Observer on the deliberate link above

    Nyemade Wani · Top Commenter · University Of Liberia, Monrovia,
    Liberia campus what utter nonsense. This is why we cannot go forward,
    the voodoo priests calling themselves men of God. Ebola is in Liberia
    because of dirt and filth. These “men of God” are the ones making us
    poor and ignorant by demanding money we do not have and chasing our
    young men and women. Instead of telling the people to stop eating bush
    meat and clean their surroundings, these morons are showing their
    ignorance. Look how fate these charlatans are compared to the average
    Liberian. While praying we should be cleaning our surroundings. Truly
    “religion is the opium of the people” and these fools must be high on
    that opium. Reply · · 41 · July 31 at 3:36am

  21. I am increasingly convinced that ideas such like this need to be tackled by improving access to education something those of us in the developed world can assist with.

    This isn’t a result of the catholic churches teaching alone; its the fear and ignorance of a society bubbling up an finding expression and legitimacy in scripture that itself was the product of fear and ignorance. Whatever the dominant religion of that region these ideas would have found expression.

    Beliefs start with the individual who is the product of the society they live in.
    I doubt you could find a single catholic in the UK who thinks that Ebola has been sent as a curse from God or if you did they would be from parts of the world where ignorance of medicine and magical thinking still hold sway.
    It was recently reported that a major part of the strategy to fight Ebola has been an awareness campaign to convince people in these countries that Ebola is real. I doubt people in countries with good educational access need convincing that viruses exist.

    If you provide people with the tools to think more rationally there is good evidence that the trickle down benefits are enormous; as disease is understood and the benefits of things like birth control become apparent.

  22. This guy may be RC but presumably other in the Council of Churches that endorsed the message are Anglican. I want to hear what the Archbish of Cant has to say. It’s increasingly clear that the Western and African branches of Anglicanism are poles apart on many issues. In centuries past they would have splintered yet now they are determined to hold the Anglican communion together in order to maintain their power and relevance.

  23. Wonder why the omnipotent god that these imbeciles claim to know “the mind of”…doesn’t actually just “puff it” (Gabriel – 1974) and all the homosexuals then burn in agony for hours but not actually die or something similar….seems that such a task would be chicken-feed for their invisible friend….

  24. great example of towing the party line catholic style

    basically, you can say or believe whatever you want whenever you want. you may rape, you may abuse, you may use contraception, you may force the victim of your rape to have an abortion, as far as I know you may make a blood sacrafice to satan every night.

    All because catholicism isn’t a lifestyle based on simple right and wrong, the rules are too punative, everyone will break at least one. it’s basically like all other criminal organisations. they’ll let you get away with anything you like because the business comes first and if it’s good for business it’s fine, if it’s bad for business, the church has you on record being a sinner and can use you as a scapegoat to divert attention.

    How Frankie reacts to this outburst will tell us more about the business than the pope. He’s stated god’s no magician, this comment from one of his conclave disputes this. He’s spoken of compassion to all people, regardless of sexuality, this outburst disputes this. grounds for defrocking at least, excommunication at most. We’ll see what happens.

    How would any other branch of the mafia react to one of it’s top made men going rogue? if it don’t hurt da boss, forgeddaboudit… but if we need someone else runnin that patch… baddabing!

  25. M27Holts Nov 5, 2014 at 7:33 am

    ….seems that such a task would be chicken-feed for their invisible friend….

    Omnipotent DIY!

    B b b b but that would do away with the need for priests and preachers, create theistic unemployment, and force them to go and work for a living with such practical and rational skills as they may have!
    Horrors!!!!!!

  26. Anyone with a knowledge of Christian theology should not be surprised. This man’s mind is already intoxicated with myths about a God who wiped Sodom and Gomorrah off the face of the earth because of the so-called sin of homosexuality.

  27. If, at the next gay pride, someone got up and said that the tragedy of the Ebola virus was God’s way of punishing the Christians for being whining bigots, do you think this would incite the population to violence against the priesthood?

    The people dying are not specifically gay or non-Christian, so where does this idiot get off using the tragic death of his fellow countrymen, women and children to push his own opinions as if coming from a super power?

    Morality coming from religion? Yeah, right, like snow coming from a black hole ……

  28. Perhaps we should set him a test – he goes into hospital and assists in the treatment of ebola sufferers – without protective gear.
    If he contracts the disease and dies, he was straight, and if he survives, it proves he is gay. (Is that the way the old witch tests worked?)

  29. Rosbif Nov 5, 2014 at 9:03 am

    The people dying are not specifically gay or non-Christian, so where does this idiot get off using the tragic death of his fellow countrymen, women and children to push his own opinions as if coming from a super power?

    Ah! But this is missionary-indoctrinated ex-colonial Africa, so :- “When I tell them I have voices in my head from god, they regard me as a divine source of infallible information, rather than as the basket-case I would be viewed as in much of Europe”!

    Hallelujah!

  30. If the RCC were even a tiny fraction as benevolent as its defenders claim it to be, then a minimum requirement would be that the RCC routinely and swiftly condemns and replaces pontificating nutters like this archbishop with less bile-filled and more sensible candidates. Has it done so?

  31. The same nonsense was said when AIDS first appeared many years ago, and for many Roman Catholics earthquakes, volcanic eruptions… … have to do with sex. At this rate, inflation, the rate of exchange, unemployment… will have to do with sexual matters. The RC clergy is so sexually frustrated that they see sex in every event that happens in the world. If Pope Francis wants to be taken seriously- his reforms, not his beliefs- he should try to put some order among his wayward clerics.

  32. The most dangerous plague is not a virus, it is the scourge of Religious Leaders abusing their position in the Community. A serious problem with people like this is not their errant speech, it is that these crackpots have access to the Press. Those who are denigrated should rise up and publically persecute these wicked crackpots.

  33. Oh Really I thought African Religious leaders said that was what Aids was……always changing the goalposts but the rhetoric stays the same …..ignorant, incorrect and irrational…..did I mention contemptable….spreading lying damaging propaganda should be a crime….

  34. God doesn’t like homosexuals. Every-time in his omniscience that he sees a homosexual act he decides to show them the error of their ways by killing a child. It’s called “moving in mysterious ways” which translates roughly as “I don’t have a clue what I’m talking about, but do as I say (or the kid gets it?)”. The really sad thing is not the few million that believe this, but the other billions who don’t but still profess the same faith in the face of such absurdity.

  35. The really sad thing is not the few million that believe this, but the other billions who don’t but still profess the same faith in the face of such absurdity.

    And where is the universal world wide outcry and condemnation of this evil. Where are the religious leaders of all denominations climbing over the backs of others to get to the pulpit microphone first to scream the denials required. Silence. Crickets chirping.

    Chirp…..

    Chirp. ….

    Chirp. ..

    Another child dies.

    Religion poisons everything. Thank you Hitch.

  36. If you want to write to the Pope, his address is as follows:

    His Holiness Pope Francis PP
    00120 Via del Pellegrino
    Città del Vaticano

    Alternatively, you could write to the papal nuncio in Australia at the following address:

    Bishop P. R. Gallagher
    Apostolic Nuncio
    P O Box 3633
    Manuka ACT 2603
    Australia

    You could ask His Holiness or the nuncio whether he realizes how damaging it is to the Catholic Church when a Catholic bishop makes such statements of ignorance and hatred.

    To be honest, I do not mind Catholic bishops making such repugnant displays of themselves; it can only put more people off the Catholic Church.

    Lewis Zeigler for Pope!

  37. actually if he speaks on behalf of the catholic church, headed by a member of the united nations, shouldn’t the UN step in? as this sort of ranting is not only untrue but seriously hampers attempts to manage the outbreak

  38. The spread of ignorance in response to health emergencies is tantamount to serial murder. More blood on the ledger for the medieval Roman Catholic menace.

  39. Sagan:

    How would any other branch of the mafia react to one of it’s top made men going rogue? if it don’t hurt da boss, forgeddaboudit… but if we need someone else runnin that patch… baddabing!

    David R Allen:

    Chirp…..

    Chirp. ….

    Chirp. ..

    Hey, we don’t want no canaries roun’ here.

  40. IF god exists and if he was that strict with punishing persons of questionable morals, then why on earth has he not caused all those people of the cloth who enjoyed the company of young boys to burst into flames? another fine example of a religious fanatic calling upon his flock of ignorant morons to go forth and commit justifiable religious cleansing, lets all go out and commit homosexual genocide like they did to various others, it must be ok to do it because its in the bible. Bloody hypocrites and fearmongers should be crucified like their alleged son of god saviour. “religion is poison”

  41. I suppose this is evolution in action. He could have advised his people how to limit the spread of Ebola, like stop kissing your dead relatives and start washing your hands. Instead he opted for the attack strangers in the street and burn down their homes approach.

    Which option will stop his congregation dying out rather quickly? Those “fit” for their environment presumably will be those who know what a virus is and take the necessary action to avoid contact with it, instead of waving wands and executing their virus free neighbours.

    If the media loved pope Francis really means business he should excommunicate this man without delay. I won’t hold my breath.

  42. To be fair, the idea was to have people stay at home for three days but they felt the need to bastardise the request.

  43. Will the following be the next famous statement?

    The Church appeared to endorse the theory of the evolution and told to the Catholics that there was no contradiction between believing in Catholic Archbishop Lewis Zeigler’s statement “That God is angry with Liberia, and that Ebola is a plague. Liberians have to pray and seek God’s forgiveness over the corruption and immoral acts (such as homosexualism, etc.) that continue to penetrate our society.” as well as the prevailing scientific theories regarding the evolution.

    Poor Francis! He has to pedal so fast for trying to shelter the Church from such hierarchs.

  44. It’s interesting to consider what he is saying to his congregation. He is presumably not just warning if you are gay god will smite you with ebola (which would make sense if God really hates gays), no what he is saying is that god will strike you all down at random even those who hate gays if you allow homosexuality to go on. If you look at this clearly then you see the true evil of this preacher in action. This is not preaching just fear it is preaching fear and hate and is a call to action. This is why the Catholic Church is evil.

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