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    William replied to the topic Meanwhile Trump is Guilty in the forum Politics and Social Issues 5 years, 3 months ago

    Hey, you guys are right in saying what you believe. Dems hate Republicans and vise versa. I hate no one. That is why I am an independent voter. I will not take  time to discuss the process I would like to see happen, because it is moot. Nothing you or I can say or do will change the outcome. Instead, I will tell you what I believe will come of all of this:

    (1) Trump will be impeached in the House, without a doubt.  No way to stop it.

    (2) if Republicans remove trump in the Senate, it will be a disaster for the Party. Republicans will be removed from office next election, especially southern states. The Party will lay in ruins, maybe for good.

    (3) Even though Republicans in the Senate know Trump is guilty, they will probably vote for Trump to remain in office. Their base will retaliate severely if Republicans vote against Trump.  Most Rep will not vote Dem. They will just stay home and not vote. Like Dems, Republicans have always been cowards. They will cave to their base, regardless of right or wrong.

    (4) But, if Trump is impeached in the House, and remains President, expect a severe retaliation and unification by Trump’s base. Even evangelicals, who are now highly suspicious of Trump, will vote Trump. Trump will most likely be elected in 2020.

    (5) If no action is taken, Trump will most likely be defeated in 2020. Too many electorate now mistrusts Trump, especially independents, and many of his own base. Fired too many people. Cannot get along with his own party, probably not even his wife.

    (6) Bottom line, hate all you want. Use no logic. Go for impeachment,  Don’t wait to kick him out. Try to remove him quickly because he is dangerous, lose in the Senate, re-elect Trump in 2020.  Four more years of Trump. Start impeachment all over. Spend 32 million dollars once more.

    Peloshi knows this. That is why she was so reluctant for impeachment inquiry. She eventually caved to the left. Rest assured, even if the final charges are extremely serious, she will be worried. She may be the only Dem left that knows real logic.