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Citizenschallenge-v.3 replied to the topic Evolution of Religion in the forum Religion and Secularism 5 years, 3 months ago
Agreed. Â Â đ
It’s nice having you on board here at CFI.
thanks
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Citizenschallenge-v.3 replied to the topic Science deniers double standards of evidence in the forum Science and Technology 5 years, 3 months ago
Yeah but, Tim, that was really a beautiful rebuttal Widdershins wrote out, I’m humbled*, think I’ll have to read it another couple times, appropriate  some of those sentence – it’s not intellectual theft – it’s learning.  đ
* I do appreciate I’ve been paying attention for longer than most, and it’s had its toll on me mentally/emotionally -…[Read more]
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Citizenschallenge-v.3 replied to the topic Evolution of Religion in the forum Religion and Secularism 5 years, 3 months ago
Lets not forget about the sense of  communities and belonging that religions anchor.  I have a low opinion of religions, but I got to sit in on a few Unitarian Church services a few years back – fortunately they aren’t holy roller, simple country people believing in old time religion.  God was to shine through them, and they weren’t busy at…[Read more]
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Citizenschallenge-v.3 replied to the topic Irreducible Complexity – examples? in the forum Religion and Secularism 5 years, 3 months ago
Here’s a brand new fun informative video from Jackson Wheat
The comments are a hoot –
How I’d love to do a Spock mind meld for only a moment – taste the emptiness and get a clue about how they fill it up with a comic book story. Â Because lordie knows going at it rational does not work.
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Citizenschallenge-v.3 replied to the topic What is "Scientific Consensus" ? in the forum Philosophy 5 years, 3 months ago
Until the day I responded, âAnd do you know how you found out they were wrong? THEY TOLD YOU!
Fabulous point!
Thanks for highlighting it.
Oh and you’ll also hear scientists freely explain that they don’t have enough information to reach a consensus on this or that – until the evidence is collected and remaining questions can be resolved to…[Read more]
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Citizenschallenge-v.3 replied to the topic Is trump dog whistling for War on America's Fourth Estate in the forum Politics and Social Issues 5 years, 3 months ago
Another aspect is the ârightsâ the fourth estate supposedly protects are also guaranteed in the constitution, so the fourth estate becomes pretty redundant in that regard,
dead guy, you toss this stuff out there, then run off. Â I wonder if you can explain any of this shit?
How do the rights spelled out in our Constitution make the press redu…[Read more]
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Citizenschallenge-v.3 replied to the topic Is trump dog whistling for War on America's Fourth Estate in the forum Politics and Social Issues 5 years, 3 months ago
Maybe those middle class white folks need to get over their sense of superiority and memories of being the great white slave Masters of the world and start getting along with the rest of humanity?
Just tossing the thought out there.
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Citizenschallenge-v.3 replied to the topic Is trump dog whistling for War on America's Fourth Estate in the forum Politics and Social Issues 5 years, 3 months ago
However, itâs safe to say Donald Trump will not destroy the world.
Maybe not the world but he’s sure doing his part to help destroy America.
But than how could I expect a pissy intellectually lazy whinny white guy, who’s entire world seems to be constructed around
crying, I’m the victim, I’m the victim, and fuck everyone else.
to get it.
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Citizenschallenge-v.3 replied to the topic Evolution of Religion in the forum Religion and Secularism 5 years, 3 months ago
 In the very early Bible God is clearly described as being a volcano god.
Just out of curiosity what’s the quote?
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To do science, you have to accept that we exist as independent minds in a universe.
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Citizenschallenge-v.3 replied to the topic Irreducible Complexity – examples? in the forum Religion and Secularism 5 years, 3 months ago
I was just asking if those were the only two examples Christian have.
Guess that’s a tentative yes.
So how is it that fact based rationalists always seem to lose the public discussions, popularity contests?
Perhaps lose is the wrong word, give in …… Â gotta run, Maddy
thank you  đ
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Citizenschallenge-v.3 replied to the topic Neurotheology: God is real…inside your head in the forum Science and Technology 5 years, 3 months ago
 in Teeâs post it says that a study showed differences amongst believersâ and practitionersâ experiences vs. those of skeptics and atheists.
Seems a no brainer (:-), if the one is about a Mindscape built upon religious dogma,  that is living without introspection  and behaving by rout.  Keeping it in the comfort zone and closing themselve…[Read more]
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Citizenschallenge-v.3 replied to the topic Any chemistry geeks out there? Is CO2 . . . in the forum Science and Technology 5 years, 3 months ago
Yeah, makes me think of water and fire also. Â đ
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Citizenschallenge-v.3 replied to the topic Indoctrinating kids in the forum Religion and Secularism 5 years, 3 months ago
And poof! 4 happy atheist young adults (maybe not so young anymore) who made up their own minds what to believe because we taught them how to think for themselves instead of what to think.
Something to be proud of Dad!
Congrats, job well done.
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Citizenschallenge-v.3 replied to the topic Irreducible Complexity – examples? in the forum Religion and Secularism 5 years, 3 months ago
Right, and those two have been demonstrated to be wrong dozens of time – and of course ‘they’ never absorb a god damned lesson.
My question: Â Are those two examples really the best they have for “Irreducible Complexity”??? Â
Wait a minute are they the only examples Creations can conjure? Â Â Â Where’s Holmes when you need him?…[Read more]
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Citizenschallenge-v.3 replied to the topic Why don't scientists take on Intelligent Design? in the forum Science and Technology 5 years, 3 months ago
Basically, Weinstein is saying there is a genetic basis for genocide. We find it naturally abhorrent, but when the right environmental conditions arise and a leader pushes us in that direction, the desire to kill off a competing tribe kicks in and becomes viable as a survival strategy, and to enough people it becomes the ârightâ thing to do. Wei…
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Citizenschallenge-v.3 replied to the topic Neurotheology: God is real…inside your head in the forum Science and Technology 5 years, 3 months ago
Is it God or a Sense of the Eternal that’s hard wired? . . . Â and that “God” is the only language we’ve developed to discuss it.
Just tossing it out there.
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Citizenschallenge-v.3 started the topic Irreducible Complexity – examples? in the forum Religion and Secularism 5 years, 3 months ago
I’ve read it said that the essence of Intelligent Design is the principle of Irreducible Complexity, with Michael Behe often being brought up.
But it seems to me every example he’s brought up has been impressively refuted with examples from real life and evolutionary history.
Has anyone ever provided an example of a genuinely Irreducibly…[Read more]
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Citizenschallenge-v.3 started the topic Any chemistry geeks out there? Is CO2 . . . in the forum Science and Technology 5 years, 3 months ago
Been working on second half of my Pageant of Evolution column (Dropdead line looming) Â and the thought popped up in a sentence I wrote and I’ve been chewing on it since.
CarbonDioxide, the molecular backbone of life.
I appreciate my understanding is more broad than deep – so I’m curious if that stands up to scrutiny?
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Citizenschallenge-v.3 replied to the topic Demystifying Roger Penrose's Three Mysteries of Reality in the forum Humanism 5 years, 3 months ago
So, the prerequisite that you say is missing is the mathematical nature.
Oh, and I don’t know where I said anything like that.
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Citizenschallenge-v.3 replied to the topic Demystifying Roger Penrose's Three Mysteries of Reality in the forum Humanism 5 years, 3 months ago
Adding this idea of an infinite mind just fills a gap …
To be clear it’s them adding this notion of an infinite mind – before Tim mentioned blankie – that is what the infinite mind is.
Of course, I appreciate how important that blankie is to the wellbeing of its owner and would never deprive a child of their blankie. Â But that doesn’t change…[Read more]
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