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  • Citizenschallenge-v.3 replied to the topic Can being come from Non-being ? in the forum Religion and Secularism 5 years, 1 month ago

    December 29, 2019 at 12:23 pm#316922
    Write4U
    Stardusty Psyche said No, thoughts are a physical process, they are not nonphysical.

    Write4U:  This is a tricky question.

    IMO, thinking is a physical process. But thoughts are a non-physical result. A controlled hallucination.

    Think of a tree. Does the tree physically exist inside your head, lifesize? Is the tree a hologram inside the head? Is a hologram a physical thing?

    Thank you W4U.

    Here’s another part of that

    Science seeks to objectively learn about our physical world, but we should still recognize all our understanding is embedded within and constrained by our brain’s mindscape.

    Religion is all about the human mindscape itself, with its wonderful struggles, fears, spiritual undercurrents, needs and stories we create to give our live’s meaning and make it worth living, or at least bearable.

    What’s the point?  I think it’s about better appreciating our ‘frame of reference’ – and especially recognizing that we aren’t the center of creation.

    This is important today because some have convinced themselves that they actually have a personal Almighty God in their back pockets, when in fact our Gods are as transient as governments and the human species itself.

    Religions, heaven, hell, science, political beliefs, even God, they are all products of the human mindscape, generations of imaginings built upon previous generations of imaginings, all the way down.

    That is not to say they are the same thing, they are not!  Science is dedicated to honesty and objectively understanding physical reality while religion is concerned with the human imagination and our soul and spirit and how our struggle through short life.  They are different, but both are necessary human inventions.

    Still, destined to be swept away by the hands of time, while Earth and life will continue its dance. …