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@ibelieveinlogic    I’m done.  I have presented what I know.  Perhaps it’s best to accept the official story.

Bob, that is so typical.  Make grand claims, be questioned, repeat grand claims, be questioned, run off in a huff.  Yet the record is clear you have no attempt to respond to any question.

#340923, Logic:   “Feynman admitted he had been led into forming wrong conclusions about the o-rings being the cause of the Challenger disaster.  He was badly troubled by the knowledge that he had fooled himself.  One of my all-time favorite people.”

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#340931
@lausten
[Feynman admitted he had been led into forming wrong conclusions about the o-rings  — IBL]

citation please

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#340975
@ibelieveinlogic:  I saw David Frost interview Feynman. … That Reagan was a “star wars” junkie was well known.  … Congress had ordered Reagan specifically… Challenger’s cargo was/is classified. … Downrange film of flames took either 3 days or 5 days (I can’t remember which) to be delivered.  … killed by a botched attempt to put missiles into space … Sometimes we’d just rather be fooled.

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#340981
@citizenschallengev3
That was quite the ramble, not sure how those threads tie together, but in your head guess it makes sense.

Back to the O-ring.

How did Feynman supposedly fool himself?

With what did he fool him?

You haven’t explained it at all.

Did an old memory of frozen cracked carburetor trigger his synapses to make connections?

Who knows?

How would that be fooling himself?

Please try to make sense out of your (that) story.

Tossing more wack-a-moles at us ain’t the way to do that.

Are you claiming something else brought down the Challenger.

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#341145
@ibelieveinlogic

Quoting Cc…..Back to the O-ring.

……….How did Feynman supposedly fool himself?

……….With what did he fool himself?

………You haven’t explained it at all.

……….Did an old memory of frozen cracked carburetor trigger his synapses to make connections?

The invitation to supper and the look into the carburetor’s o-ring problem after supper were contemporary with Feynman’s investigations into the causes of the explosion.  You might want to re-read the details in my post.

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#341146
@ibelieveinlogic
How can anyone believe that putting weapons in space could be covered up for 40 years?
Consequences.  Reagan would have been impeached.  Absolute disaster for the Republican party.  NASA would have been seen as complicit and probably shut down; the space program was/is not universally popular.  Additional probes into other covert activities could have been embarrassing, or worse.  Any questions were killed immediately.  The entire episode was buried.

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#341156
@citizenschallengev3

@ibelieveinlogic:  The invitation to supper and the look into the carburetor’s o-ring problem after supper were contemporary with Feynman’s investigations into the causes of the explosion.  You might want to re-read the details in my post.

Cc: “That has nothing to do with it.”

@ibelieveinlogic:  Feynman admitted he had been led into forming wrong conclusions about the o-rings being the cause of the Challenger disaster.  He was badly troubled by the knowledge that he had fooled himself.  One of my all-time favorite people.
I’m wondering where, how, did Feynman “fool himself” about the o-ring cause ?

Cc: “Can you explain that?”

Cc: “Are you saying the o-ring failure was not the cause?”

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#341166
@lausten
[Consequences.  Reagan would have been impeached. — Bob]
………. Not following your logic. – Lausten

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#341386
@ibelieveinlogic
all of them were Reagan fans?
I doubt that, but I would be quite surprised if everyone working on a classified project was not properly vetted and totally understood his/her responsibility to keep any secrets.  The “military industrial complex” that Ike described in his farewell address is real.  Anyone wishing to remain in that industry knows better than to tell what he knows.  Besides that, every scrap of evidence one might point to is buried under tons of concrete.

There were and still are many calls for NASA to be shut down, …

Here’s a bone for most here: Trump established our Space Force.  Any question on what the “force” part of that name means?  Our weapons in space … if not under a President who was a “star wars” junkie… Note that the term “star wars” … By the late 1980s, the effort had been re-focused on the “Brilliant Pebbles”…
And there is more.  Those who did not follow it at the time should read and be aware.

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#341390R
@ibelieveinlogic
…..[Are you saying the o-ring failure was not the cause? – Cc]

Temperature at 16-17,00 ft is about zero F.  Temp at 36,000 ft and up is minus 69 F.  Would you use o-rings that couldn’t take those temps and might fail at just below freezing?  I don’t think so.

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@citizenschallengev3

What does that have to do with the o-ring failing that cold morning?  Are you saying our rockets cool to -69F when they reach 36,000 feet?

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#341438
@write4u

Shares a picture that was being transmitted around the world to spectators like me, wondering WTF were they thinking launching on that morning?  (I’m thinking it might ?? even be the very seam that failed, right next to the shackle, or whatever they call the connection to the main tank.)

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#341515
@ibelieveinlogic
…..[Video unavailable]
…..[This video contains content from BBC Studios, who has blocked it on copyright grounds.]
This is as close as I believe I have come to finding the interview on line.  I saw it, others must have too.

I’m done.  I have presented what I know.  Perhaps it’s best to accept the official story.  I can believe it was a weather balloon at Roswell.

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citizenschallenge.

So what?  This isn’t about any of that.

I’m trying to understand how you think Feynman fooled himself?

Even more important Bob is that your words are laced with an inference, never clear statement, that there was another reason the Challenger Shuttle exposed that morning.  Has nothing to with the cargo, either in the bay, nor in the crews cockpit.  It has to do with one particular seal on one particular seam, that failed.  Or ???

All the rest is simply flaying your arms, to avoid the question.

But, I imagine you’ll never try to seriously answer my concerns.  This thread will just dry up a blow away like all the rest.  Nothing offered, nothing achieved.