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  • Citizenschallenge-v.3 replied to the topic Seeking Truth – Need Help in the forum Religion and Secularism 3 years, 6 months ago

    @Dad1  –  There is no reason to think God is a liar and that such foolishness has any merit.

    That’s funny.  The personal God’s that people have created for themselves are full of lies.  The Bible is full of lies.  People are full of lies.   Simply because. you’re ego blinds you to evidence, does make your imagined real, or honest.  Are you one of them Christians, who’s  a Right to Lifer, and who also advocates for every idiot being able to purchase assault weapons and ammo?  Where’s there any internal honest in that?

    All you have is denying that physical evidence is evidence at all.  Then you refuse to read and learn about the evidence that is presented to you.

    Wow that’s supposed to impress me.

    @Dad1  –  I am kind of old fashioned when I see people actually thinking cockroaches are kinfolk.

    Nothing old fashioned about it.  Many people throughout history appreciated that we are children of Mother Earth.  Why blinded you to that ancient knowledge, that is now being flesh out in solid physical evidence.

    What have you got?   You’ve replace that sense of awe for your origins with a “God” created by your EGO and you demand to think God made you the center of creation.  Now that I find silly as …

    @Dad1  –  Some of us can defend our faith. Merely claiming faith in science doesn’t do it.

    But you haven’t defended a blessed thing.  You offer gotcha questions.  You have zero interest in pursuing the answers.  You speak from a position of assumed certainty, but it’s an empty certainty only held together by the force of your willpower.

    Your kind of Faith – is faith in the absence of evidence and reason.

    What’s wrong with believing in the scientific method?  Which is fundamentally a series of rules and method intent of reducing the human ego influence as much as possible.  It’s based on observing, measuring, accumulating evidence and processing that evidence to the best of our abilities at the time.  With those abilities always improving as our instruments and data improves.

    All you’ve shown us is a lot of self-certainty in your own assumptions and your own myopic ego driven world view.  Not willing to actually debate on the facts, you’re left to playing a ridiculous game of belligerent gotcha, never demonstrating anything but your sense of incredulity (and distain) at what science has amassed.

    @Dad1  –  So science changed it’s tune and then changed back again, embracing their imagined kinfolk. So? All based on belief in evolving as the one big truth to explain all creatures and life we see. That is religious fanaticism.

    Well yeah, but you try to ignore that all of that stuff is based on the available evidence at the time.  You also seem oblivious to the scientific venture being about cross examining each other, constantly testing the validity of assumptions, one seeking more evidence to form a better picture.  Of F’n course it’s going to be dynamic with a few missteps here and there.

    You were expecting absolute perfections ???

    @Dad1  –  Having things like a regenerative capacity does not mean we need to call it uncle!

    Here’s and example how you willfully distort what you hear in order to not-understand.  I say “change over time” and you switch it to “regenerative capacity” in order to sterile the concept of a passage of generations  from your mind – so you don’t have to worry your head about it.  Best, or is it worst, you don’t even recognize the amazing irony.

     

    Why do you think the universe, or god, owes humans an absolute simplistic answer???   Why do you think your little head has tapped into the ultimate knowledge?  Then it turns out your knowledge (pick the Abrahamic religion of your choice) is limited to a series of books that are human centric soap operas, as though nothing else on this Earth matters.  All those religions really have is a self formed notion that we are superior to all else and we are supposed to consume our planet and discard it as soon as possible.

    You’re the one who’s attitude and words scream an intellectual/spiritual superiority and certainty, that sense of all-knowing you try so hard to exude is nothing but silly when viewed from the outside.