John Dub

who is the “we” you speak of?

The entire human race

Tell me what the test is for God, if you did stumble upon God how would you know?

That’s the question we’ve been asking you since you got here. I didn’t make the claim, so I don’t have a test. I can only test what others claim. Gods used to be on mountains, then above the clouds. Where shoul…[Read more]

Must we Lausten? Tell me does a “quantum field” have physical properties? does an electron have physical properties?

I just answered that. A quantum field does not have the same kinds of properties as a classical field. You can define it as something, but you can’t define it as matter. You keep wanting to make this an argument instead of att…[Read more]

Since at least Aquinas, and really earlier, Abrahamic religious leaders have included themselves in the search for origins. They managed to balance this with their theology, the theology that explained their origin in a few sentences, by saying they were searching for “how” God did it, that they were exploring the world that God created. Other lea…[Read more]

I had several things going yesterday and was trying to respond to Sherlock’s rapid fire posts, so I missed this,

I know what they are talking about it’s called “something” not “nothing” though. Nothing is the absence of anything, mass, charge, dimensionality, spin, statistical properties and so on. That’s what most people take it to mean and most…

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What if the points being made are false? What if they are constructed as an image in your mind? What if you have some idea of what is true based on your experience rather than what is true in reality?

ID admits the possibility that certain mechanisms found in nature might have been designed rather than arising through the currently observed laws of physics and chemistry.

It then asks how we could test said mechanism to see if it was or was not designed, that is to define the qualities within a system that demonstrate that creativity and…

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I mean I linked that paragraph that explains it all.

Wow. One paragraph that explains it all. Careful with all that power.

(Bryan) I took this to mean you were somewhat sympathetic to that position as the reason you selected him as the basis for your name. — Holmes

Sorry, I thought I said my parents named me for him, not that I selected it for myself. — Tee

The jokes just sort of write themselves.

I’ve told you that I was a firm advocate for decades and only in my mid twenties did I seek to explore several specific concerns and supposed weaknesses in the reasoning.

Do you know how long a decade is? Because mid-twenties would not be enough time to advocate firmly for anything. Claiming to firmly know something is what we all do when we’re young.

Lausten, are you trying to explain that “nothing” might have a different meaning to these mathematical experts, than it has to regular folks engaged in everyday usage?

Yes. From what I know of people 100 years ago, “nothing” would be pretty much like empty space. But now we know space is not empty, there are particles and forces we are just beg…[Read more]

If you believe that in an academic physics paper “nothing” can be freely substituted for “something” and vice versa and you approve of that then I’m afraid we will never understand each other.

And around and round we go. How many times do we have to point that we are not understanding each other? I offered an alternative to the word “nothing”…[Read more]

CC, nice collection of links. I could treat them like some kind of semester of science.

The one on plate tectonics (which I’ve only seen the summary so far), reminded of something I’m looking for. I read once that one of the earliest geologists, before that was even a thing, was a Christian who was looking to confirm the Biblical age of the…[Read more]

It is, if you care to simply research the many deeply problematic scientific issues,…

You’ve said that more than once, but when given the opportunity, which is really any post, you put up a speech that is more philosophy than science. When I first started thinking about my beliefs, I realized I had only a rudimentary understanding of evo…[Read more]

Why is it so important to you to prove that we can’t know where the universe came from? Do you have some other way of understanding who we are and how we got here? Can you demonstrate how that works. These are questions that everyone has asked for generations. If you have some insight into that, we’d love to hear it.

I answered your question in a number of ways. We are limited creatures, attempting to figure how we got here. Science admits that from the beginning, stating clearly that nothing it claims is ever certain. We are always learning and always proving earlier theories false. There is no way out of that. Scripture agrees, as when Moses asked to see God…[Read more]

I have no idea what you’re waffling about now, all you quoted was…

Definition ellipsis: An ellipsis (plural: ellipses) is a punctuation mark consisting of three dots. Use anellipsis when omitting a word, phrase, line, paragraph, or more from a quoted passage.

Hope that helps. It cuts on excessive scrolling. Helps to make the conversation readabl…[Read more]

To be honest I don’t really know. I just know that I have a habit of taking whatever a Buddhist says as “it must be true”.

Can’t really have much of a conversation about it then, can we?

Saying I can explain the origin of the universe by assuming something with certain physical properties already exists is an oxymoron, if you really cannot see that then we must leave it at that.

I have addressed this. First, we figured out the world was older than 6,000 years, then we worked back to the so-called Big Bang, now we’re trying to f…[Read more]

Not surprised that you followed up this

There are a large number of very serious and seemingly insurmountable problems in areas like mathematics, information theory, biochemistry and so statistics. I’ve probably read far more pro-evolution science books than you have anti-evolution science books.

With a “lecture” from a guy from the Disco…[Read more]

Incidentally it is incorrect to say… — Holmes

This is an example of requiring that when something is stated, you expect a complete thesis of the full context. Without that, you claim ignorance. You have been here long enough to know that CC knows the part that you filled in. He expects you know it, and you showed that you did. So he left out, n…[Read more]