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  • Lausten replied to the topic Why the need for certainty ? in the forum Religion and Secularism 5 years, 5 months ago

    I have no idea what you’re waffling about now, all you quoted was…

    Definition ellipsis: An ellipsis (plural: ellipses) is a punctuation mark consisting of three dots. Use anellipsis when omitting a word, phrase, line, paragraph, or more from a quoted passage.

    Hope that helps. It cuts on excessive scrolling. Helps to make the conversation readable. You can always use search to find the full passage. You seem to have figured it out yourself, but still wanted to complain about it. Then you repeated yourself about CC being incorrect, and didn’t respond to what I said.

    You clearly found the exercise stressful and upsetting…

    This is your most common response. You asked for an intellectual discussion, but keep claiming we’re all upset. Quite a few facts have been presented, maybe if you responded to those.

    You wrote “He was wrong about that.”

    Galileo was wrong to say Nature was a book that could simply be read. It was the early sense of what science could do. We’ve since found it to be more mysterious than we expected.

    You take issue with those of us who simply refuse to bow to the Darwinian dogma, why?

    I take issue with your unwillingness to engage in a discussion using logic and evidence.

    You missed the entire point of the talk too, it was to contrast how the modern scientific establishment protects its beliefs with the same ruthlessness as the Catholic church protected its beliefs from the threats perceived in people like Galileo, why does that upset you?

    Darwin is bogus, just look at the scientific problems (the Cambrian explosion is simply one of many).

    Can you see a contradiction here? You admit religion has in the past been dogmatic, and agree that’s a bad thing. I’m glad we agree on that. Then you turn around and dismiss Darwin as bogus, just like you dismissed a quantum theory of how our known physical universe came to be (just the one we exist in, the one that is 14 billion years old), and our responses to the Cambrian “explosion”.

    At 1 hour 7 minutes, Berlinski dismisses a guy’s question, saying scientists are acting like a gang in the Bronx, just fighting for their side. You seem to have a similar view. As long as you see the world this way, there isn’t much chance of having a peaceful conversation with you.