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Lausten, are you trying to explain that “nothing” might have a different meaning to these mathematical experts, than it has to regular folks engaged in everyday usage?

Yes. From what I know of people 100 years ago, “nothing” would be pretty much like empty space. But now we know space is not empty, there are particles and forces we are just beginning to understand. Now, whenever you see a model of the Big Bang, there’s usually a ball on a black background. So, what’s that black background? They never tell you. Well, “they” are a lot of people and you can search around for that answer, but don’t expect it to be easy. Don’t expect words like “time” to mean the same thing as what you see on your phone. They might tell you that the guy on top of the Empire State building is at a different time than you are. WTF? I can call that guy and ask him what time it is and it’ll be the same. Screw “them”.