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Fuck trying to make me feel guilty about being pissed off about their wonton greedy self-interest and hatred for others and for setting all of humanity on this destructive path we are on.

It would be helpful if you stopped characterizing what I say. Think about how stupid of a strategy it would be to try to discuss communication styles (in a thread about communicating) by making someone “feel guilty”. I had no idea you had such a low opinion of me.

All we need was to slow down, less babies, a little more thought about this amazing planet that was providing our life support system.

If there was a common sense “all we need” solution, I think we would be working on it. We ran around throwing rocks at each other for a couple million years. Having babies has also been a pretty successful survival strategy in most cases. I think evolution still has some work to do.

I build on that to point out that within sober science, we do have mathematics, and that what randomness there is, is constrained.  Meaning nothing is pure change, the way that Creationists keep misrepresenting the science as saying.  Why not draw a storyteller’s connection between that unknowable Intelligent Design and mathematics and natural laws and the constraints they place on all we know.

And I’ve agreed with you on this. Out of seven pages of discussion, I mentioned two words that I thought you could change, and it turned in to a mountain of upset.