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Needed a free hour. The boss is away today, although there is that mindless robot logging everything do. Anyway.

I heard something different from Penrose, following his first listing of the 3 things. He says the mysteries are in the connections. He doesn’t question the math being there and answers “yes” to Justin’s question about it being discovered, the mystery is that we can observe it. So although he doesn’t specifically mention evolution, I hear it implied as part of the mathematical structure of the universe. More critical to Penrose’s story is how insignificant the origin of species is, rather, why does the physical lead to consciousness or for that matter any life at all? The other connection mystery.

So, the prerequisite that you say is missing is the mathematical nature. It’s the basis of his argument with Craig that if you want a “necessary being” you already have one, but it’s not a being. Adding this idea of an infinite mind just fills a gap that will likely be filled by us understanding all the processes that the mathematical nature reveals. There is a mystery of where they came from, but the only place to look, according to Penrose is at the nature itself, running the clock backwards  by observing the clock itself.

I stopped listening after an hour, when Craig started going of Kalam.