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Lausten replied to the topic Evolution of Religion in the forum Religion and Secularism 5 years, 3 months ago
The current model includes theories of states without time or matter that are unstable and led/lead to a Big Bang. I can provide some details, but Iām not a physicists.
Secondly, those unstable states happen (I would say āall the timeā, but they arenāt in time). The physical universes they create will have different constants, so it kind of is like random chance.
Thirdly, the constants lead to evolution.
Fourthly, evolution leads to us and what we call consciousness. Ā The sunset exists independently of us and we donāt know what its experience is or if it has one. There is no such thing as āmore highly evolvedā, get over yourself.
First, we took the power away from the church, then we provided alternatives to their narrative, we answered the questions they couldnāt answer and did the things they said their miracles could do. Now, we have dealt with the deists, the last āyeah butā. You have nothing left except the fraction of a percent chance that science is wrong. Thatās no way to live.
Definitions of God are comingled with history because they are the history of us coming to terms with who we are. So if someone seeks God, I would send them straight to those crazy stories and books, telling them that they are stories of course. If they wanted to see God, Iād send them to you. I might also send them to meditation, or on a mountain climb, or just to stare at a tree for 4 hours. Of course religion asserts that a ātranscendent spiritual realityā exists. Ā Most people have felt that, just not all of them attach to a religion.
Thatās the point when religion and science are at odds. When someone has an experience, but then speculates what it was without collecting any additional data or doing any additional experimenting. Some go further to abandon logic entirely. I stay right there with religion. Unless you are very isolated, your culture will get in the way of interpreting a āpeak momentā. Before we had all this science, religion often helped control those experiences, keeping all the young men from claiming they were god and killing each other off to prove it. But thatās a longer conversation for somewhere else.



