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I’m not clear on who you are quoting there Write4, although the language sounds familiar.

Being precise about this is usually where I see conversations go south. Throwing “faith” and “you can’t prove” are red flags. Even when I’ll agree that “faith” in some ways is accurate, I still get people not wanting to agree. The underlying problem always seem to be that they want me to agree to some sort of supernatural knowing, but they don’t always want to come out and say that.

I don’t know about you, but I have to stop and rethink it when it comes up. It’s not always easy to spot that someone is using reason to claim that using reason is not reasonable. Without throwing in a term like “hard solipsism”, which itself needs definition, I can’t always explain what the problem is with whatever they are saying. I assume it’s some internal convincing they’ve done that something is true, but there’s no way to tell that from them flat out lying. The simple answer  would seem to be to agree that we can’t know anything for certain, but some people think you are tricking them if you try to go there.