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Lausten replied to the topic Evolution of Religion in the forum Religion and Secularism 5 years, 2 months ago
When I said, āIām not sure I can parse out the subtle differences you are seeing in āimaginationā vs āintuitionā to get what youāre saying here.ā I was not implying that you did not understand the words, but only keeping to the discussion here and how they were being used. And, when I said, āspecific things you have expressed as possible and have claimed are supported by scientists and by dataā I didnāt come close to implying that you think science supports that God is a reality. Weāre going to get bogged down if you are that hung up on what you think Iām implying.
In one of your early posts, you said, āScience is limited in its ability to describe anything beyond its circumscribed purview. However, despite your assertion to the contrary, science does (in my opinion) provide convincing evidence of a powerful, unseen supervening force that controls, governs and directs all existent reality.ā Thatās been pretty central to this conversation. Science doesnāt provide evidence of something unseen. There are big missing pieces in our theories, but thereās nothing known that says those missing pieces are a āforceā that is capable of ācontrollingā or ādirectingā anything. Thatās what people used to think, then we found out that mutation isnāt controlling anything, it just happens. Simpler, undirected interactions have more to do with what we are than we ever presumed.
If you are going to say things like, āthatās exactly what I did in a prior post listing 4 central points in support of my general contention. Not one of them has been convincingly refuted to date.ā That is also going to make this conversation difficult. There were responses to those 4 points, and we moved on without completing those conversations. The fact that you didnāt like the responses, or didnāt think they were adequate, doesnāt mean the responses werenāt valid.
Your 4th point was, āFourthly, God is often described as āomniscientā (all-knowing). Is there evidence for this? I believe there is.ā But with your last post, Iām left wondering what type of evidence you are talking about. I know a couple of us kind of rejected your NDE and Carl Jung evidence, maybe we were too quick with that.



