Stardusty Psyche

@PatrickD

“Viability cannot be a measure of intrinsic humanity.  No logical argument can be made for viability as an indicator of intrinsic humanity.”

Fascinating claim. Of course you can prove that?

Yes, to the extent that any claim of any sort can be “proved”.

Intrinsic humanity is by definition a self contained quality of the human bein…[Read more]

TimB: “As I said in my very next sentence in the post u r responding to:  “…ANY demarcation will be seized upon by those who would control women’s reproduction, so as to drive back that demarcation further and further, with one argument or another, to the same end, to control women of reproductive age.”

You illustrated that point exactly.

[Read more]

@Lausten

The primary criteria I use is viability outside of the womb. I have trouble calling something before that a human life. That covers brain function, I believe.

Viability, as defined here in the US by the SCOTUS, means survival with the aid of the most advanced technology.  A couple problems with that 1. the viability standard is beside…[Read more]

@Lausten

They say nothing while using quite a few words. They parse out logical inconsistencies while creating completely illogical statements. They seem to pay attention to the proper use of words, but ignore the intended meaning in the process.

Vague attack that says nothing with quite a few words.

It would be commendable expect for the obvious…

[Read more]

@TimB

Viability of the fetus as a born human outside of the womb is an accepted demarcation.

So, as technology advances more and more abortions should be outlawed, correct?

If technology makes 26 weeks viable, abortions should be illegal after 26 weeks, correct?

If technology makes 20 weeks viable, abortions should be illegal after 20 weeks,…[Read more]

@TimB

another of your rather repetitive crude insults.

If you believe “All of the little undeveloped organs in a fetal body, which collectively do not comprise an independently functional entity, are a part of the woman’s body.  Her body, her business” then it follows that you are OK with abortion up to 1 day prior to a normal term delivery.  Cor…[Read more]

@CC

Mighty and magical,

This is worse than I realized. You inhabit a universe of magic.

but still a fetus, hoping to come into a world that wants it.

So, the fetus entertains hopes of acceptance in your view.

What’s morally wrong with that getting nipped in the bud?

Yet you think it is ok to electively kill a human being with hopes.  How truly bi…[Read more]

@CC

The part where you think you are judge and jury.

Internet mind reading about what I think, how stupid.

The part where you reject a woman’s right to self-defense by trying to squeeze the notion into a straight-jacket of your own fabrication.

More stupidity.  Even the airheads with the Alabama law have a maternal self defense clause, for the um…[Read more]

TimB:  All of the little undeveloped organs in a fetal body, which collectively do not comprise an independently functional entity, are a part of the woman’s body.  Her body, her business

So you are ok with aborting a baby 1 day prior to a normal term birth.

The insane debauchery of your ilk knows no bounds.

@Player

the State should force you to donate one of your kidneys to your dying daughter Stardusty??

So you think the baby takes a kidney from the mother?  You have some very bizarre ideas about fetal development.

Mom doesn’t even donate blood, much less any organs.  She provides a little oxygen and food.  Do you have any children?  Would you cho…[Read more]

@Player

CELLS ARE A BABY?

This is like playing whack a mole.  You guys have to be some of the most befuddled knuckleheads ever.  Are you guys all drunk while you hit the keyboard?

Try and keep it straight, OK?  Cells do not have a functioning brain, therefore cells can be aborted electively so there is no need for a rape exception or a ma…[Read more]

@CC

>>>  WOMEN WHO MISCARRY COULD BE CRIMINALLY INVESTIGATED UNDER GEORGIA’S NEW ABORTION LAW

How is that a response to the right to self defense?  Do you consider yourself to be a rationalist?

If it’s the other guys using it, it’s WMD

What are you even driveling on about?  None of the major powers use or sell WMD any more.  You don’t even know…[Read more]

@Player

What right do you say she has no right??

Really?  A woman has the right to electively kill her baby because somebody else attacked her?

@TimB

Yet you think it is rational to punish the mother for the sins of the rapist/incestuous father by controlling her personal choice over her own body

How many brains do you have in your body?  What is the maximum number of brains per person?  What is the minimum number of brains per person?

Can you count to 1?

Is the number 1 an e…[Read more]

@CC

What child?   It’s a fetus!   There is a difference.

Then no rape or incest exception is rational.

If the fetus is not a human being it can be electively disposed of, so an exception makes no sense.

If the fetus is a human being then he/she has a right to life that supersedes all other rights except somebody else’s right to life, so a rap…[Read more]

@CC

Oh, yeah please help clarify for me what does Weapon of Mass Destruction mean

Remember Iraq, the lies told to hoodwink the world into supporting the invasion?  Saddam had WMD, the administration told us.

Well, we invaded, but no WMD, the administration lied. Saddam had rockets, bombs, jet aircraft, machine guns, mines, tanks, rifles, and…[Read more]

@PatrickD

Neither rape nor incest are excepted either

Why should they be? Punishing the child for the sins of the father is more ancient stupidity.

Correct me if I’m wrong, but I think that’s a straw man fallacy. We’re discussing abortion, I blink, and it’s weapons

You can thank CC for that.  Yes, you blinked, and I don’t blame you, that is about…[Read more]

@CC

Star, can you explain why a woman and her existing family is less important, I mean sacred, that an unborn fetus?

I never said that, in fact I have said otherwise many times, and I have repeatedly corrected this false attribution, so, stupid question.

What if that unborn fetus endangers the lives of the living?

Even those superstitious…[Read more]

@TimB

“A new stupid point u made however was “you can’t put a wind turbine on your car.” U can run cars on electricity or hydrogen, both of which can be produced using wind power.”

Both of which were much more expensive and impractical than petroleum until gas hit $4.00/gal in the US, or $1.50/L in Oz.  Not because of some terrible conspi…[Read more]

@TimB

Why protect the fetus if it is not a human life, or baby?  You sentences make no sense either individually or in combination, which is why I did not bother to respond to them all.

ou also admit that NOW it is competitive or maybe cheaper than fossil fuels.  So MAJOR advances in technology and innovation are not necessary.

Marginally, b…[Read more]