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  • Stardusty Psyche replied to the topic Can being come from Non-being ? in the forum Religion and Secularism 5 years, 1 month ago

    Adonal888

    There are no sound arguments for god.  Your attempt contains multiple failures, as all attempts to argue logically for god all fail.

    The universe had a beginning,

    You mean the big bang?  How limited your view of the universe is. There is nothing that requires our big bang to be the beginning of material existence.

    and must, therefore, have been caused into being and created by something
    If there ever was a time when nothing at all existed, then there would be absolutely nothing today.
    It is an axiomatic truth that if nothing ever existed, then “nothing” would still be the ontological situation, for nothing simply remains nothing — forever! Nothing plus nothing equals nothing.
    Since it is the case that something does now exist, one must logically conclude that something has existed always.

    An actual infinite is irrational.  Infinity is a concept, not a number, or an amount of stuff, or an amount of time.  One can never count up to a real infinity, nor can one regress an infinity of real time, nor can one ever make an infinity of real divisions. No matter how much counting one does, or how much progressing through time one does at any particular time one is still at a finite count or a finite time, as will be the case the next count and the next, therefore, no matter how many counts or how much time one progresses it will always be the case that one remains in a finite state never achieving a real infinity of any sort.

    That “something” must be either physical or non-physical.

    “Non-physical existence” is an incoherent term.  That is what theists do, invent incoherent terms by jamming disjoint words into a single phrase and then declaring they have a solution, when in fact you have merely uttered gibberish.  “Non-physical existence” is simply meaningless babble.

    Since the physical universe came into existence at a finite time ago, the cause must be non-physical.
    Another term for the “non-physical” would be “spirit.”

    Incoherent, meaningless, gibberish, babble.

    Therefore, that “something” must have existed eternally,

    Special pleading that your special sort of something is allowed to be irrational, that is, an actual infinite.

    and be and spiritual in nature. This being, we call God.

    We who? I am not a part of that we, so like Aquinas you close with a demonstrably false statement.