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Stardusty Psyche replied to the topic Can being come from Non-being ? in the forum Religion and Secularism 4 years, 11 months ago
Lausten,
So, you repeat your characterization of his words. That’s not how a discussion works.
??? I quoted his words that say what I said his words say. I gave you one link of many. If you are really interested you can simply read the words I quoted and go to the link I provided.
This is a thing with Carrier, he has been arguing for years that something can come from absolutely nothing because there is nothing in nothing to prevent something from nothing, and that such an occurrence would then be uncaused.
Those are his words. I gave you one of many links. Just google this set of search terms
ex nihilo nihil fit richard carrier
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<div class=”_292iotee39Lmt0MkQZ2hPV RichTextJSON-root” style=”margin: 0px 0px -1px; padding: 0px 0px 1px; border: 0px; font-style: inherit; font-variant: inherit; font-weight: 400; font-stretch: inherit; font-size: 14px; line-height: 21px; font-family: ‘Noto Sans’, Arial, sans-serif; vertical-align: baseline; word-break: break-word; overflow: auto; color: #1a1a1b;”><p class=”_1qeIAgB0cPwnLhDF9XSiJM” style=”margin: 0px; padding: 0px 0px 0.25em; border: 0px; font: inherit; vertical-align: baseline;”>So Carrier makes this response, “If there was truly nothing, the absence of everything, there wouldn’t also be the law “ex nihilo, nihil fit” (out of nothing, nothing comes). So something can come from nothing. There is nothing stopping nothing from creating something.</p>
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And on and on and on. Carrier says exactly what I said he says.Do some homework before you start lecturing me on how to have a conversation.



